You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch You really are a heel, You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch, You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!
Ha ha ha ..... he'll get clowned like Grinch or any other DC the USC brings in. Casuals just don't get it. From Hal Mumme to Mike Leach to Lincoln Riley....when you have an offense that averages 2 minutes per possession, the defense spends a lot of time out on the field.... GenZ/Millennials will take the obvious mistake and say "well just get a stop on third down and force punts" To which us seasoned fans will say "Okay but in 2 minutes your defense will be back out there and won't have caught their breath" Let me refresh you kids on history.....teams that beat offenses like this,.usually play ball control and clock to wear down your defense. When your offense is on then off the field so quick, your defenders not only have no recovery but there's no time to analyze and adjust on the sidelines. Go ahead and talk shit and proclaim "well Leonard or this guy can do it" To which I'll remind you that Grinch was DC in Pullman at WSU and shut USC down several times. No matter who you bring in, the personnel needs to be revamped.
If Bohn was still AD and Aranda were to get fired this year, I would have no doubt he would be the guy USC would go after since they almost got him in 2020. But with Jen being the AD, I have no idea who they want.
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 Bohn wouldn't allow that. He watched Iowa run all over Clancy Pendergasts defense and had Clay Helton fire Pendergast and tried to get the best guy there was in Aranda and came very close to getting him.
If Yall want to keep it real, USC is not mathematically out of the PAC12 Championship game if they can win these last 2 games. Utah and Oregon st have 2Ls and they both have to play Washington. USC still has a lot to play for. If they win 2 games they are going to Vegas
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 They just need to win 1 game this Saturday and they are back at #2 .. Not a huge stretch. Oregon has looked bad against good offenses.. They blow out the bad the ones. USC will have no problem scoring on Oregon 😆😆..
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 They throwing out that terrible a** scheme 😆✌🏽.. They will be running a base 3-4 or 4-3 that suits the talent better. You can expect to see our best 4 on the Dline at the same time and they will all eat. Just watch.
TOMORROW, we need to make Jim Leonard an offer, he can't refuse! Can't let any other school sign him! If Leonard wants an NFL gig, what better City than LA with 2 NFL plus close to Phoenix and Las Vegas! Angel USC'78
“Wouldn’t it be amazing to get Lanning?!” While you’re at it, why stop there. Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, and-let’s not forget, our lord and savior-Pete Carroll. Lmao.
No DC will succeed with Riley. His offenses score too quickly and defenses are gassed out by 3rd quarter. This is why lots of teams make a come back in the 2nd half and either beat or come close to beating Riley's teams.
The removal of Alex Grinch is a first step. If Riley wants to truly be elite, there will need to be other changes that he will need to consider. Hopefully, Riley will become confortable with that life, otherwise he should never have accepted the job. Gott be a results oriented head coach and act rather than react. Head coaching is not for faint of heart. Not when you are getting $110M, plane use, bright lights, big city....He needs to understand that the barn door is now closed, but the horses ran out a year ago.....
If we get a good DC before early signing period, i bet we get some flips. Unless defensive recruits are absolute studs, i doubt USC gets them so the new DC can get his players in the portal.
Matt you said a 2026 recruit committed right after Grinch was fired that's 3 years away so the kid is what, about 15 yrs old right now? Why were you smiling about this the kid will probably change his mind 50 times by 2026!
This late in the season can only mean the AD fired him Riley didn't have the balls hell after the first 4 games I would have fired him and found the best highschool DC with a blitz ment to pressure,sack, intercept passes USC going to Big10 needs a Defense to serve
What? Unless your an Ohio State fan you're behind us all time. You're definitely behind us since 2000. You will still suck he wasn't your only problem. You have an palates coach for strength and conditioning. Big 10 will kill you.
@@mitchlemons837955-19 last head to head OU- SC meeting in the natty guy lmao. Behind in what, getting spit roasted in bowl games? Not winning any national titles this century? Nfl draft picks, 1st rounders and HOF’ers? LMAO. I’d tell you the SEC gonna take a giant shit on the Sooners, but I don’t have to. Kansas and Ok. St already made you already well aware of that fact.
LR should go to the NFL and I think he will. USC is acting as a GM would(taking away all of his control) so he might as well. That just gives me the feeling he leaves with Caleb in a package deal to an NFL franchise.
I really hate to tell you that your new defensive coordinator will just about as bad, you really have to look at Riley's background. He is just like Mike Leach God Rest His Soul, but like Leach he doesn't believe in an elite defense, he believes that if the defense can get one or two stops and his offense will out score the other team. Don't believe me look at Riley's past and Mike Leach's past.
Rileys past has only been him hiring 1 defensive coordinator, and that is Grinch. You can't compare both coaches' history of who they had as defensive coordinators because Leach coached way longer than Riley has. This idea that the next DC will just be as bad? Where are your sources on that? Do you have a crystal ball? If Riley gets Jim Leonard or Dave Aranda possibly, somehow that will be as bad as Grinch?
Not correct about Mike Leach. When he was at Texas Tech he had really good defenses. In fact, he had TT on the verge of becoming a national power, before being derailed by the BS scandal involving Craig James' sissy son. Also, when Leach was at Washington State, he was starting to build up a decent, balanced team on both sides of the ball - especially relative to the paltry talent that he was able to draw up there. He had not had enough time to get things on track at Miss State.
What is up with Matt and Benny Wiley? Did Wiley take his lunch money when they were in grade school or something? I may be wrong, but I don’t hear anybody else calling for Wiley’s job but him.
These guys still love Riley. He's not going anywhere, and will some reflexion and resolve to change his program he "could" be a good coach. He's a great developer of QB's and passing offense, but the Lincoln Riley of TODAY is a fatally flawed head coach. Bring in a quality DC and makes some other much needed staff changes, start recruiting SoCal much better, practice with intensity and physicality, and improve your strength & conditioning coach and program. It can change for the better, but it's also disappointing that in year 3 your 9-figure contract head coach hasn't figured it out.
LR is NOT a great coach, he's a good offensive coordinator. USC's players are highly undisciplined and get a lot of penalties, the defense is horrible and the special teams are another weak point. To say LR is a great coach is crazy.
When you look at the talent on defense... Its just not there. The personal is not there. You need great players. Our players on defense aren't good players. With the NIL era, we just need to call it what it is. Our players look lite in the ass as they say. Seems like they're prioritizing speed so much that there isn't much value in creating a balance of speed and power. At the point of contact it just looks like there's no power. Is that a philosophical issue, or a talent issue or both?
I’ll hit the like button when you guys keep it real and acknowledge Riley hasn’t earned the status of elite. You cant get beat at the highest level (the playoffs) when you play against the best coaches and teams, every time youve had the chance and be considered elite. You gotta beat the best to be the best. Just like Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Dabo, Kirby Smart. Even Mark Helfrich and Sonny Dykes have won playoff games. When Riley earns it I’ll give him his due. As of now he can’t even win a Pac12 title. This isn’t the no defense Big12. And I’m done hearing about Grinch. Riley has been with the guy forever and knows his failures and elected to bring him and keep him on the staff. You are responsible for your hiring of people when you’re the manager/leader. Their failures are yours when you allow it to happen routinely. An elite coach knows when to make a change and intervene… they don’t WASTE Heisman winner after Heisman winner because of one guy on the staff that doesn’t do his job.
2 years funny UCLA sucked last year on defense and got a new DC this year and they are damn good. Lol! Know what you’re talking about before speaking. 🤦♂️
I am tired of people bringing up Wilcox, Orgeron or Pendergast as the next DC. Some of you just have such a low hanging fruit when it comes to who should be the next DC. Everybody agrees that Riley bringing Grinch and retaining him was a bad idea. A double whammy. There is the constant narrative of Lincoln doesn't care about defense. Well seems to me that some of you fit that narrative perfectly. Some of you that bring up past defensive coaches who did not work out or is not fit to be a defensive coordinator, dont care about defense. You are setting yourself up for more disappointment. There is absolutely no correlation when thinking of the defenses Pete Carroll had to bringing back Clancy Pendergast, Justin Wilcox or Ed Orgeron as defensive coordinator. I am so glad some of you are not the AD or head coach because you would have to answer for why you hired one of those guys and then lose your job. Absolutely pathetic
I think Riley wants to have terrible defense. It allows him to keep passing in the second half against weak teams, which allows his QBs to put up huge numbers. He doesnt want to win, just wants to get his QBs big numbers
I’m not sure I agree. If LR wanted more possessions having a defense that created more 3 and outs is ideal. Run up that score, embrace being the villain. Play the backups and keep scoring
This is a ridiculous comment. So LR wants to tank his reputation so that he can lose and get his QB’s big numbers!? LR may be stubborn but not stupid. Absurd!
Washington's defence didn't look much better. Looked like a Big Twelve game.
You haven’t watched the Big XII in awhile apparently. PAC-2 is the official flag FB conf. You’re the only one that doesn’t know.
UW & USC have the same Bad. Defense😂
You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch You really are a heel, You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch,
You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!
Yes.....That should have been done last year after the Tulane game.
AGREED!!!
I hope we bring in Jim Leonard.
That would be incredibly better in every way, his defense with that offense nature boy would be wooooo!! 😂👍
not happenin dream on
they will bring in Jimmy Leonard
Ha ha ha ..... he'll get clowned like Grinch or any other DC the USC brings in. Casuals just don't get it. From Hal Mumme to Mike Leach to Lincoln Riley....when you have an offense that averages 2 minutes per possession, the defense spends a lot of time out on the field.... GenZ/Millennials will take the obvious mistake and say "well just get a stop on third down and force punts"
To which us seasoned fans will say
"Okay but in 2 minutes your defense will be back out there and won't have caught their breath"
Let me refresh you kids on history.....teams that beat offenses like this,.usually play ball control and clock to wear down your defense. When your offense is on then off the field so quick, your defenders not only have no recovery but there's no time to analyze and adjust on the sidelines.
Go ahead and talk shit and proclaim "well Leonard or this guy can do it"
To which I'll remind you that Grinch was DC in Pullman at WSU and shut USC down several times.
No matter who you bring in, the personnel needs to be revamped.
Thank God
Riley trying to save his own ass....
Exactly
I’ve heard that Riley doesn’t allow tackling in practice. How will SC get a great DC if that’s Riley’s way of practicing?
SC has to be the most ridiculously overhyped team of the century. My goodness they are embarrassingly bad.
How can you say Caleb Williams is out of the Heisman race because of west coast bias and people hate USC? He literally won it last year 🤦🏼♂️
Right
It’s about time!
LR also needs hire a real Special Teams coach
If Bohn was still AD and Aranda were to get fired this year, I would have no doubt he would be the guy USC would go after since they almost got him in 2020. But with Jen being the AD, I have no idea who they want.
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 Bohn wouldn't allow that. He watched Iowa run all over Clancy Pendergasts defense and had Clay Helton fire Pendergast and tried to get the best guy there was in Aranda and came very close to getting him.
If Yall want to keep it real, USC is not mathematically out of the PAC12 Championship game if they can win these last 2 games. Utah and Oregon st have 2Ls and they both have to play Washington. USC still has a lot to play for. If they win 2 games they are going to Vegas
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 They just need to win 1 game this Saturday and they are back at #2 .. Not a huge stretch. Oregon has looked bad against good offenses.. They blow out the bad the ones. USC will have no problem scoring on Oregon 😆😆..
Dream on. Oregon could play their backup qb and still beat the toejams.
@@noahpaynenoahgayne7309 They throwing out that terrible a** scheme 😆✌🏽.. They will be running a base 3-4 or 4-3 that suits the talent better. You can expect to see our best 4 on the Dline at the same time and they will all eat. Just watch.
SC must make the correct decision for a proven effective defensive coach .
Can't rush into this critical decision
You have no idea how much the female AD’s were involved with the termination of the coaches.
He has a way of wrecking the defense on championship caliber teams
We need to make an offer to Jim Leonard TOMORROW! We need to make an offer Jim Leonard can't refuse!!! Fight On! Angel USC'78
I have a weird feeling Jesse Minter from Michigan might be looking for a new job soon
TOMORROW, we need to make Jim Leonard an offer, he can't refuse! Can't let any other school sign him! If Leonard wants an NFL gig, what better City than LA with 2 NFL plus close to Phoenix and Las Vegas! Angel USC'78
“Wouldn’t it be amazing to get Lanning?!”
While you’re at it, why stop there. Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, and-let’s not forget, our lord and savior-Pete Carroll. Lmao.
Should have checked with the Oklahoma fans before hiring Riley and Grinch.
No Riley = no Caleb.
Time to Rethink.
No thanks
Need a good defensive coordinator, Brett venables might be available soon lol!
I don’t see the defense being worse. We are already in the toilet. I’m predicting that this defense will play better next week.
I trust Jen Cohen
No DC will succeed with Riley. His offenses score too quickly and defenses are gassed out by 3rd quarter. This is why lots of teams make a come back in the 2nd half and either beat or come close to beating Riley's teams.
Like cheating Pete would say, you got to kill the clock ⏰️. OHIO STATE and Penn state are pretty good on defense, because they grind the ball.
What top DC wants the job? I hear Riley wants out of USC.
You heard ha. From who, your grandma
As Trojans fan great move
Emargency call to OJ S. to be the next D coach @ USC🎉ha.ha..😂😢
The removal of Alex Grinch is a first step. If Riley wants to truly be elite, there will need to be other changes that he will need to consider. Hopefully, Riley will become confortable with that life, otherwise he should never have accepted the job. Gott be a results oriented head coach and act rather than react. Head coaching is not for faint of heart. Not when you are getting $110M, plane use, bright lights, big city....He needs to understand that the barn door is now closed, but the horses ran out a year ago.....
It’s not grinch it’s Riley! His teams are soft.
Riley's neck is now in the noose. He needs to WTF up and change his approach. This finesse football isn't going to cut it.
Choose wisely CLR.
Ed Orgeron.
If we get a good DC before early signing period, i bet we get some flips. Unless defensive recruits are absolute studs, i doubt USC gets them so the new DC can get his players in the portal.
Leonard would seem the smart n logical hire pay the MAN
I been following usc since John McKay I never seen a Trojans team with a defense that not a defense.
I have followed the sooner since John McKay was Your coach and I had never seen in Oklahoma defense as bad as they were under Riley and Grinch
" PLEASE DOES ANYONE KNOW IF MATT WAS PICKED ON BY WILEY AS KIDS????? "
I believe our DEFENSE will play INSPIRED and our OFFENSE will play also play with alot of heart! I believe we will upset Oregon! Angel USC'78
God you guys are delusional. 🙂
Riley should be an OC instead of a HC.
Matt you said a 2026 recruit committed right after Grinch was fired that's 3 years away so the kid is what, about 15 yrs old right now? Why were you smiling about this the kid will probably change his mind 50 times by 2026!
This late in the season can only mean the AD fired him Riley didn't have the balls hell after the first 4 games I would have fired him and found the best highschool DC with a blitz ment to pressure,sack, intercept passes USC going to Big10 needs a Defense to serve
Funny as hell. We told you. Caleb will quit too.
Lmao. We get it, you hate Caleb. Like OU got any room to talk there 55-19.
What? Unless your an Ohio State fan you're behind us all time. You're definitely behind us since 2000. You will still suck he wasn't your only problem. You have an palates coach for strength and conditioning. Big 10 will kill you.
@@mitchlemons837955-19 last head to head OU- SC meeting in the natty guy lmao. Behind in what, getting spit roasted in bowl games? Not winning any national titles this century? Nfl draft picks, 1st rounders and HOF’ers? LMAO. I’d tell you the SEC gonna take a giant shit on the Sooners, but I don’t have to. Kansas and Ok. St already made you already well aware of that fact.
lol to afemale picking a coach over the head coach.. this is too funny
Lincoln Riley is next. Karma, baby.
LR should go to the NFL and I think he will. USC is acting as a GM would(taking away all of his control) so he might as well. That just gives me the feeling he leaves with Caleb in a package deal to an NFL franchise.
😂
WASNT RILEY TAKING BACK LA HIGH SCHOOLS... IT NOW LOOKS LIKE ITS SOUTHERN OREGON WRAPPING EVERY TOP PLAYER LIKE PICKING FLOWERS!
✌️✌️
Possibly the greatest CFB QB will never play in a CCG or NCG, let alone the playoffs, because of Grinch.
Worked well for Pat Mahomes
Blame Riley Grinch was the same at OU but Riley brought him to $c. Bad decision by Riley.
Does USC seriously think that Riley will hire a good DC when Riley despises defense?
I guess we will find out soon enough. It may not be entirely up to him.
Grinch stole USC fans Christmas!
nope, they're still here
@anthonyhamilton S&C coach is not brain surgery and they’re under the direction of the coaches on how the want there players to look.
I really hate to tell you that your new defensive coordinator will just about as bad, you really have to look at Riley's background. He is just like Mike Leach God Rest His Soul, but like Leach he doesn't believe in an elite defense, he believes that if the defense can get one or two stops and his offense will out score the other team. Don't believe me look at Riley's past and Mike Leach's past.
Rileys past has only been him hiring 1 defensive coordinator, and that is Grinch. You can't compare both coaches' history of who they had as defensive coordinators because Leach coached way longer than Riley has. This idea that the next DC will just be as bad? Where are your sources on that? Do you have a crystal ball? If Riley gets Jim Leonard or Dave Aranda possibly, somehow that will be as bad as Grinch?
Not correct about Mike Leach. When he was at Texas Tech he had really good defenses. In fact, he had TT on the verge of becoming a national power, before being derailed by the BS scandal involving Craig James' sissy son. Also, when Leach was at Washington State, he was starting to build up a decent, balanced team on both sides of the ball - especially relative to the paltry talent that he was able to draw up there. He had not had enough time to get things on track at Miss State.
He can learn from his mistakes. Plus it may not be totally up to him
Coach Riley should hire Glenn Schumann from georgia to be the next defensive coordinator
Why would he take a lateral job at a worse team?
@@traqgolfmoney
Should've been fired after last season
UCLA D coordinator is very good and he's young and can relate to the kids.
Mike Stoops is looking for a job.
What is up with Matt and Benny Wiley? Did Wiley take his lunch money when they were in grade school or something? I may be wrong, but I don’t hear anybody else calling for Wiley’s job but him.
YOU guys got a jimbo fisher..................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for nothing................
These guys still love Riley. He's not going anywhere, and will some reflexion and resolve to change his program he "could" be a good coach. He's a great developer of QB's and passing offense, but the Lincoln Riley of TODAY is a fatally flawed head coach. Bring in a quality DC and makes some other much needed staff changes, start recruiting SoCal much better, practice with intensity and physicality, and improve your strength & conditioning coach and program. It can change for the better, but it's also disappointing that in year 3 your 9-figure contract head coach hasn't figured it out.
What surprised me that talent did not follow Caleb
Hopefully Phil Parker
LR is NOT a great coach, he's a good offensive coordinator. USC's players are highly undisciplined and get a lot of penalties, the defense is horrible and the special teams are another weak point. To say LR is a great coach is crazy.
WHERES SULLIVAN AND OUR BIG BOYS? RILEY SEEMS IN LOVE WITH ONE COBB
When you look at the talent on defense... Its just not there. The personal is not there. You need great players. Our players on defense aren't good players. With the NIL era, we just need to call it what it is. Our players look lite in the ass as they say. Seems like they're prioritizing speed so much that there isn't much value in creating a balance of speed and power. At the point of contact it just looks like there's no power. Is that a philosophical issue, or a talent issue or both?
Go for Heathcott ISU
I’ll hit the like button when you guys keep it real and acknowledge Riley hasn’t earned the status of elite. You cant get beat at the highest level (the playoffs) when you play against the best coaches and teams, every time youve had the chance and be considered elite. You gotta beat the best to be the best. Just like Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Dabo, Kirby Smart. Even Mark Helfrich and Sonny Dykes have won playoff games. When Riley earns it I’ll give him his due. As of now he can’t even win a Pac12 title. This isn’t the no defense Big12. And I’m done hearing about Grinch. Riley has been with the guy forever and knows his failures and elected to bring him and keep him on the staff. You are responsible for your hiring of people when you’re the manager/leader. Their failures are yours when you allow it to happen routinely. An elite coach knows when to make a change and intervene… they don’t WASTE Heisman winner after Heisman winner because of one guy on the staff that doesn’t do his job.
Riley Will Go And Get Another Alex Grinch 🤢......
@1h6m Jen Cohen Story.
It usually takes 2 seasons for a defense to develop into a cohesive unit…it’s not looking good for Lincoln Riley
When was the ucla DC hired? The defense doesn't have to be great. It just has to be decent.
2 years funny UCLA sucked last year on defense and got a new DC this year and they are damn good. Lol! Know what you’re talking about before speaking. 🤦♂️
WE TOLD YOU. HA.
Bring back Ed Orgeron. (I'm serious.)
Dumb move now. Yes, fire him but after the season. What is the assist going to do?
@@brentoniverson1020 dumbest take of all
Too little, too late!
I am tired of people bringing up Wilcox, Orgeron or Pendergast as the next DC. Some of you just have such a low hanging fruit when it comes to who should be the next DC. Everybody agrees that Riley bringing Grinch and retaining him was a bad idea. A double whammy. There is the constant narrative of Lincoln doesn't care about defense. Well seems to me that some of you fit that narrative perfectly. Some of you that bring up past defensive coaches who did not work out or is not fit to be a defensive coordinator, dont care about defense. You are setting yourself up for more disappointment. There is absolutely no correlation when thinking of the defenses Pete Carroll had to bringing back Clancy Pendergast, Justin Wilcox or Ed Orgeron as defensive coordinator. I am so glad some of you are not the AD or head coach because you would have to answer for why you hired one of those guys and then lose your job. Absolutely pathetic
" LOVE TO KNOW IF MAtt WAS BULLIED OR PICKED ON BY WILEY AS CHILD?"
I think Riley wants to have terrible defense. It allows him to keep passing in the second half against weak teams, which allows his QBs to put up huge numbers. He doesnt want to win, just wants to get his QBs big numbers
I’m not sure I agree. If LR wanted more possessions having a defense that created more 3 and outs is ideal. Run up that score, embrace being the villain. Play the backups and keep scoring
This is a ridiculous comment. So LR wants to tank his reputation so that he can lose and get his QB’s big numbers!? LR may be stubborn but not stupid. Absurd!
Calib screwed up following riley to usc...
what so he could have finished second to last in the B12 last year?
Don't think so.
I will say this you hate to see anyone lose their job. Truly wish Grinch Good Luck.
yeah, that Heisman and $3 mil a year in NIL was a terrible decision.
Yeah, winning a Heisman. What a loser.