Safe or unsafe? Rifle transition to pistol drill
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- When your rifle goes down, you have to transition to your pistol. The question is, if you leave the selector on fire is that safe or unsafe? Leave your thoughts in the comments section with your justification!
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Safe, if ur not actively engaging, it's on safe.
A vote for putting on Safe! Could you explain your thought process on it a little more and why you should safe the rifle in this scenario? Thanks in advance!
The guys over at Tundra Tactical (might have been trex arms) recently went over this in one of there "different generations" videos. Millennials and genZ tend to not actuate the safety unless there is no more shooting to be done. Finger come off the trigger and that's enough. Older folks (and people trained by them) tend to use the safety each and every time the gun comes off target.
What’s the video name?
@@nobodytraining I tried finding the video. Failed. Sorry.
@PrayingPanda A for effort
Good food for thought id like to see what others say as well. I usually turn the safety back on anytime I come off target just for the sake of not develop training scars and not to stray from standard procedures
For lack of better phrasing, my worry is that we as a community put such a huge emphasis on safety that we train the thought out of situations, and when fractions of a second matter are we handicapping ourselves? But I’m eager to hear what others have to say!
Thanks for watching!
I forgot to ask what your gut answer is. If you had to come up with something right now, what would you say and why?
Putting a dead or empty rifle on safe in a life or death situation is like dead centering a tree in your car and applying the park brake. Duh...It's empty or it's dead but if you take the time to put it on safe instead of engaging a deadly target YOU will be dead too. Just like the dead cops we were finding back in the day with a left hand full of spent brass out of their revolver. Bad habits cost time and sometime lives. And besides all of that, if you keep that bugger hook off the trigger it's still safe whether the switch is on or off. The operator is the main safety on any firearm period.
And a vote to keep the safety off! I posed the question for the exact reason you illustrated in your example. Training safely is of course of the utmost importance, but are we creating a training dogma the prevents us from the best thing in a scenario because it violates the safety paradigm?
Thanks for taking the time to comment and explain!
You’re engaging the safety during the transition so there’s no time lost if the action is committed in muscle memory.
A vote for Safe! Thank you for taking the time and explaining your position!
It would be interesting to see what the time difference would be. In my mind, even though you are putting it on safe as you are putting the rifle down, you are still loosing time because you are performing an action with your firing hand instead of going for your secondary. Granted that we are talking about fractions of a second but that could make all of the difference in the described scenario. I’m not trying to convince you, just explaining my justification. But I think the next time I go out, I’ll try it both ways and see what the averages are.
"We suck" speak for yourself 😂 safety always on unless ready to fire. Less then a second. Make it practice always before shooting flip the safety off. But if 3 people are actively shooting I'm most likely grabbing whatever has rounds in it then getting my rifle ready to fire after. Interesting topic though. Curious to read other comments.
I have multiple personalities hence the collective “we” 🤣
But question: let’s say it’s 100% guaranteed that in a week you were going to face this exact situation in real life. You have 1 week to train for it. Would you put the rifle on safe or not?
@nobodytraining yeah, I'm leaving safety off. I'm being shot at who cares about safeties.
The reason you would put it on safe is because, as you stated, you don't know what the problem is. It could be something as simple as you didn't reset the trigger. Now you have a loaded gun without the safety enguaged swinging and potentially causing a ND and injury.
A vote for Safe! I appreciate the comment and your thought process behind it.
My worthless opinion is flip it on safe like you always do automatically, same way as a 1911, call it muscle memory or just habit. It would take you longer to think "don't put it on because some thing is wrong" than to just flip it on like you always do. but if your trigger didn't reset for some reason, you can't put your rifles safety in the safe position anyway.