Learning osu! mapping with wikiHow

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  • @TheGlitchyFox
    @TheGlitchyFox 2 года назад +555

    This is the best mapping tutorial of all time.

  • @diamdante
    @diamdante 2 года назад +289

    yo I literally just discovered this channel today and was watching some earlier videos, and just as I go take a break from work a new one drops. truly divine providence :')

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  2 года назад +58

      welcome to the channel! ;)

    • @Chirouu
      @Chirouu 2 года назад +8

      now you will watch tokaku click circles for 10 years

    • @Chirouu
      @Chirouu 2 года назад +1

      @hasikau snow what

    • @chimklee
      @chimklee 2 года назад

      Welcome

  • @Taro4012ITG
    @Taro4012ITG 2 года назад +189

    This is a completely insano guide on how to make a rhythm game and I don't think I've ever considered using an excel spreadsheet in my entire 17 year game development & rhythm game charting history

    • @Jono997
      @Jono997 Год назад +13

      I think you might get a chuckle out of the fact that a while after this dropped, someone actually made a spreadsheet-based charter for a rhythm game and it's legitimately the best tool for that game right now.

    • @Ibbys_space
      @Ibbys_space Год назад +1

      @@Jono997 please inform me on what rhythm game this is lmao

    • @Jono997
      @Jono997 Год назад +5

      @@Ibbys_space Project Pentjet. It's a maimai-esque game with custom chart support... but no editor. And then some maniac decided to make one via a spreadsheet!

  • @zezus001
    @zezus001 2 года назад +220

    1. since when did you use dark mode?
    2. is the author of this article charting for Phigros?
    3. i can’t think of any good reason to time your chart using a spreadsheet… just visualizing the notes in your head would be easier
    4. this article sounds like the game you are charting for is unfinished or does not have a complete editor. in that case, why start charting now?
    5. i don’t think the author of this article understands what time signatures are… what song uses 2/4? i know of songs that use 2/2 but not 2/4
    edit: apparently 2/4 isn’t as uncommon as i thought
    edit 2: why does editing a comment take away the heart :(

    • @Elle_Super
      @Elle_Super 2 года назад +37

      2/4 isn't a weird time signature but it's mostly used for marches so I wouldn't expect Osu songs to use a 2/4 piece. I'd be surprised someone knew about 2/2 time but not 2/4???

    • @cooikemint
      @cooikemint 2 года назад +13

      2/4 is common, but not for songs in rhythm games.

    • @meepilee7991
      @meepilee7991 2 года назад +30

      2/4 isn't really rhythm games but comes up somewhat often in classical pieces. Definitely more than 5/4 from my experience.
      So if the author of this article searched up "most common time signatures" it would probably show up there lmao

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 2 года назад +1

      @@cooikemint wow, really? i don't think i've ever heard a song in 2/4...

    • @arnab_bukit
      @arnab_bukit 2 года назад +7

      2. nah, phigros uses timing in ms instead(unless its other fanmade program like PhiEditor which uses beats instead of ms
      edit: oh wait, wtf why theres flick notes

  • @MTArtStuff
    @MTArtStuff 2 года назад +91

    Me: Can I get a beatmap tutorial
    Mom: We already have a tutorial at home
    Tutorial at home:

  • @mioguy1815
    @mioguy1815 2 года назад +25

    pishifat got quiet after this dropped

  • @gunkeez
    @gunkeez 2 года назад +134

    I would use everything but wikihow to do basically everything

    • @hecko-yes
      @hecko-yes 2 года назад +15

      wikihow is the one place that taught me how to tie my shoelaces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @artemisia6107
    @artemisia6107 2 года назад +76

    i saw this tutorial on koifishu's server a few weeks ago and thought someone should make a map based on that tutorial and i can't believe someone actually did it

    • @hotgayfurryfeet
      @hotgayfurryfeet 2 года назад +7

      i saw ryuusei aika posting this tutorial on the avalon mapping server too lol

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 2 года назад +53

    Literally the best beatmap in the entire universe. Such a revolutionary creation 🛐

  • @hatefulbirdie3567
    @hatefulbirdie3567 2 года назад +18

    "This tells you things and doesn't tell you things"
    It's the most suitable sentence to describe wikiHow.

  • @scuriscuri4674
    @scuriscuri4674 2 года назад +80

    This is one of the mapping tutorials of all time!

  • @aliaseses
    @aliaseses 2 года назад +15

    how to make a good beatmap:
    the beatmap: *a map that looks like it was made in 1727*

  • @sneezebazooka6068
    @sneezebazooka6068 2 года назад +6

    Dude the article feels like the article was too short cause it was made by someone who already assumed you had a competent level editor, and then someone who hasn't made a rhythm game before contributed to bulk up the article length.

  • @tizurl
    @tizurl 2 года назад +16

    “How would you miss two notes on the same place if you played it yourself first?”
    Testify on Arcaea 4.0 day 1 be like:

  • @ahmetswag
    @ahmetswag 2 года назад +15

    1:20 i get that this is a joke and all but to find the exact starting point of a song and to determine the offset a song might have, an audio editor like audacity is required. otherwise you might just end up with an unsynced chart. at least thats what I need to do charting in ADOFAI because that's really the only game i charted anything in lmao

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  2 года назад +11

      Yeah, I was nitpicking there but it depends on the level editor you're using. For osu, they have timestamps that are as accurate as audacity (although you can't see the waveforms). The plus to using osu's editor over audacity for an osu mapper is also because you can slow down the preview for extra accurate timestamps without doing math on your end. I'm surprised ADOFAI doesn't have timestamps down to the miliseconds, it's something I would've expected from 7th beat... oh my

    • @ahmetswag
      @ahmetswag 2 года назад +5

      @@tokaku having timestamps like audacity in the ADOFAI editor was actually something i thought about a lot. although i had no idea how the developers would actually achieve it given that ADOFAI's editor works wildly different than any other rhythm game editor that uses waveforms and timestamps. I prefer it the way it is right now though cause I got used to it lol

  • @isaacroansison2539
    @isaacroansison2539 2 года назад +7

    It think “beats” means the rhythm of the song. What i mean is when you have a 4/4 time signature you add 1/4 (0.25) for every row. So that means every row will have 1/n more than the last row, N being the top of the time signature.

    • @cubruce1103
      @cubruce1103 2 года назад

      i interpreted it as “quarter note in 4/4 is 1 beat and 16th note in that is 0.25”

  • @ThatOneBreadstickEater
    @ThatOneBreadstickEater 2 года назад +8

    As mapper I dont know how to feel about this.

  • @CamelliaFlingert
    @CamelliaFlingert 2 года назад +10

    as a new mapper myself i laughing so hard from this, especially from "you need to use audacity to see where to put timestamps" B R U H, i'm literally just always put some random BPM at my ear and then starts to editing it until it's perfectly fits to timing of track, and in most cases i guessing the correct BPM instantly, and yet my ears not so good at hearing main and important beats and i don't understand music theory at all :D but who cares lmao
    Okay i written this before watching the whole video, and now i'm dying from laugh completely, tip with using audacity was the most innocence on this tutorial XDDD i don't understand anything it's so cursed

  • @theairblow
    @theairblow 2 года назад +2

    Author of this article doesn't know why in-game level editors exist, or even how gamedev works. A Level Editor is just a tool for making development faster, productive and enjoyable. If you don't use tools and decide to do everything manually, development would be hell. It's like coding with Notepad. Advising usage of Excel is very dumb - parsing it would be harder than a text file with the same stuff as in a spreadsheet, file size would be bigger, etc.

  • @lunaresharmony
    @lunaresharmony 2 года назад +10

    I love how the tutorial is so wild that you double checked with the noisz devs

  • @cenpaka4316
    @cenpaka4316 2 года назад +5

    "How would you miss 2 notes in the same place"
    Testify happened.

  • @qsunshine.
    @qsunshine. 2 года назад +15

    from a fellow osu!std mapper: i can indeed confirm, that this indubitably is, an osu!mapping tutorial

    • @Electrified727
      @Electrified727 2 года назад

      From an osu!mania mapper I can comfirm that he doesn't understand both osu!ranking criteria and time signatures

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. 2 года назад

      @@Electrified727 *she (she's a Girl lol, with a boyfriend, Tzechi)

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. 2 года назад

      @@Electrified727 and also do you think that they actually wanted to learn from that? because they're just doing it for fun lol

    • @Electrified727
      @Electrified727 2 года назад +1

      @@qsunshine. no I mean the creator of the turorial

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. 2 года назад

      @@Electrified727 OHH sorry

  • @barkey5741
    @barkey5741 2 года назад +6

    Wow this tutorial is so good, it makes it look really hard lol.

  • @imconfuseddl1436
    @imconfuseddl1436 2 года назад +3

    Wikihow: “Have a basic understanding of music theory”
    Also Wikihow: “Beat 0.25, 0.5, 0.75”
    AAAAAAHHH that is absolute pain. If you want to for some reason do this time consuming way of mapping out beats might as well just arrange an entire drum part so you can at least make it less confusing from going “beat 57-63 spinner” like you just making an arrangement but in complete text. If you know basic (or at least an intermediate level) music theory you could just arrange it because it would be easier to read and listen to because there if your going through the effort of trying to use external programs to organize work make something you could actually listen back to and compare with what you want your completed work to be and sound like.

  • @HOLYCOWofthesea
    @HOLYCOWofthesea 2 года назад +7

    Watching this made me realize just how valuable my music theory classes were 😅

  • @bggamingdeluxe5658
    @bggamingdeluxe5658 2 года назад +2

    5:23 me when the image shows a tournament spreadsheet.

  • @sleepieststella
    @sleepieststella 2 года назад +18

    3:37
    Those websites tend to be wrong most of the time. I wouldn’t recommend it for charting. You are better off finding the bpm through, Let’s say you are charting a song that is in Arcaea, Arcaea shows the BPM for that song. Let’s say we want to chart PUPA. Arcaea says the song is 202 BPM while this website would say it’s 101. Even though it’s half-time ( Half the song’s bpm ) It’s still necessarily incorrect…

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 2 года назад +1

      Does it really change much? You can still time it properly using half or double time.

    • @sleepieststella
      @sleepieststella 2 года назад +1

      @@zezus001 Yeah, sometimes they do Half half-time.
      Ex: Galaxy Friends is 300 BPM but one website will say it’s 75. That’s half of 150 which is also half of 300.

    • @Meltiis
      @Meltiis 2 года назад +3

      @@zezus001 In terms of timing it doesn't matter, but it might change the way you map the song. If you were to put 2/2 onto 4/4, there'd be a strong accent on the third beat which could change the way you want to map something.

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 2 года назад

      @@Meltiis my brain is melting

    • @Lance0
      @Lance0 2 года назад

      @@sleepieststella there's also half half half time and half half half half time
      tbf by the time this happens the song is already like 600 bpm or smth sooooo

  • @hoshiro.exsharaen
    @hoshiro.exsharaen 2 года назад +1

    I don't think the tutorial works for game rhythms with a complete level editor (like osu or stepmania). Otherwise, it has some points. I used to create maps for taikojiro which does not have a level editor, so... yeah, mapping it with Notepad (then upgraded to Notepad++ and eventually Visual Studio Code) and test it directly at Taikojiro. With no level editor, a very basic understanding of music theory about measure/bar, note, time signatures and the understanding about the rules of a beatmap (in this case, TJA file) helps a bit, although sometimes for complicated patterns I usually just do trial and error until I get what I want (thankfully Taikojiro has a very basic song control and offset setting). For this reason I avoid "crazy patterns" (rapid changes in BPM or scroll speed) since they are very hard to "code" in text editors and visualizing them at the same time in my brain 😅 all my maps only follows the beat as close as possible to the music, and since it's a taiko game, I try to enhance the music with taiko hits (so no crazy patterns). Kudos for mappers with crazy patterns!
    Fortunately the tutorial does not require you to make note of the position (x and y) for each notes in the spreadsheet 🤣

  • @rukamasaki6678
    @rukamasaki6678 2 года назад +4

    back in the days there used to be a good bunch of mappers who made maps for Rhythm Master (the one by Tencent, not to be confused) with Notepad for the absence of level editors and fan-made content support. like majdata format in some ways. it feels reeeally cool to visualize all the patterns in your mind tho

  • @pangolinh
    @pangolinh 2 года назад +1

    “You will need to understand the structure of a typical song”
    Me trying to chart Death Grips songs:

  • @NatiiixLP
    @NatiiixLP 2 года назад +2

    If you're making a small enough game, then making a chart editor, or a level editor in case of other games genres, is an absurdly difficult task, so very few people/teams would venture down that road. That is, among other reasons, why almost no game has a level editor built into it, including, but not limited to, many rhythm games, especially before they become famous enough for anyone to consider making a custom chart. Hard-cording easy charts is pretty trivial, and a couple of people with very little knowledge can go through a sizable number of songs in a matter of days and turn them into relatively playable charts, all of that in much less time than it would take to create a half usable in-game chart editor.

  • @beataltfrfr
    @beataltfrfr 2 года назад +2

    Bruh I wonder what charts did the 12k people make💀

  • @GamesTheOracle
    @GamesTheOracle 2 года назад +3

    the spreadsheet had me fucking DYING lmfao

  • @frnono
    @frnono 2 года назад +2

    audacity is actually useful for mp3 offset bro

  • @tarragon112
    @tarragon112 2 года назад +1

    i mean yeah you could use a spreadsheet but if the song is at least known you can just search “bpm of [song name]” and then time the offset (or just crop the mp3 so there’s no offset)

  • @RezaRnew100
    @RezaRnew100 2 года назад +1

    Well its basically wikipedia about editing osu map but Lite or if I should say fcked edition

  • @th1nks744
    @th1nks744 2 года назад +2

    Sotarks got insecured looking at that beatmap

  • @danielyuan9862
    @danielyuan9862 2 года назад +1

    3:03 wtf DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS???
    That's just basic conversions LMAO
    Dimensional analysis looks at units more broadly, like seconds and minutes are both seen as units of time, and it is supposed to confirm whether both sides of an equation has the same "units" in the more broad definition.

  • @Ethereal6541
    @Ethereal6541 2 года назад +2

    I could inironically go blind onto mapping and make a better map than this guide guides you to, like, literally make a level editor before you start charting.

  • @myaimsaltyosu
    @myaimsaltyosu 2 года назад +1

    Step 1: Watch Vaxei
    Step 2: Pick A Camellia Song
    Step 3: Copy Sotarks

  • @mxtty5633
    @mxtty5633 2 года назад +3

    This is actually the most beatmap I’ve ever seen. 10/10

  • @kyancoqie
    @kyancoqie 2 года назад +2

    wikihow more like wikiwhy

  • @sjihyo_
    @sjihyo_ Год назад +1

    "avoid breaking your rhythm game"
    aspire mappers: *unexists*

  • @oscarcruzalegui1518
    @oscarcruzalegui1518 2 года назад +1

    So that´s the reason why my beatmaps are not ranked. I wasn´t using an Excel!

  • @Rezeee
    @Rezeee 2 года назад +1

    Well, they didn't say "how to make a good beatmap."
    Edit: I just rewinded back to the start and well fuck, the title of the wikihow article is literally "how to make a good beatmap"

  • @catgirlsz
    @catgirlsz 2 года назад +1

    don't even think you need to know music theory when it comes to mapping lol

  • @Snp2024
    @Snp2024 2 года назад +1

    I kinda realised her eyebrows are non existent. I am idiot took me so long to realise what was little weird 😔

  • @Shotios
    @Shotios 2 года назад +2

    Thankyou for enlightening us once again wikihow.
    (Great video seriously tho)

  • @geoguessrplayer1
    @geoguessrplayer1 2 года назад +2

    Out of all the mapping advice you could ever give to anyone, this certainly exists.

  • @kecHik445
    @kecHik445 2 года назад +1

    looks rankable already

  • @witchymaoki5165
    @witchymaoki5165 2 года назад +1

    the tutorial ever, the tutorial tutoried

  • @minimalgrammar1276
    @minimalgrammar1276 11 месяцев назад +1

    DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @xerithur
    @xerithur 2 года назад +1

    dont be shy bestie upload the beatmap to osu

  • @slightlyrustled
    @slightlyrustled 2 года назад +1

    osu's most rankable beatmap

  • @theneon08x
    @theneon08x 2 года назад +1

    12,5k views on that

  • @flqme8299
    @flqme8299 2 года назад +1

    I should not be up right now but f it why not

  • @bencenagy5459
    @bencenagy5459 2 года назад +1

    Petition to make a 3 key rhythm game

  • @Gues21ng
    @Gues21ng 2 года назад +1

    7:10 I would like to clarify that this is definitely, a pattern

  • @jumrader1111
    @jumrader1111 2 года назад

    bro yesterday I literally thought: where is tokaku? AND TODAY A NEW VID ARRIVED, CAN I SEE THE FUTURE?

  • @Nothingending
    @Nothingending 2 года назад +2

    This video reminded me of how much i like watching your content.

  • @siloricity
    @siloricity 2 года назад +1

    i think at 6:49 whoever wrote this article was too lazy to open mania so they just made it 'look like mania'
    spoiler alert: it does NOT 💀

  • @BiceyIcey
    @BiceyIcey 2 года назад +5

    In my high school python class, I made a rhythm game for my final (imagine knock-off Everhood) but I didn't have time left to implement a mapping system so I used a library to import excel spreadsheets. The spreadsheet read the first 4 rows from left to right and would place a note corresponding to the character in each cell. Then at the bottom of the sheet, there was a box that contained all of the other info like BPM, Author, and total time. 0/10 would not recommend.

  • @karigrandi7
    @karigrandi7 2 года назад +2

    very good beatmap! too hard for me though i cant stream ar 50 yet :(

  • @Shdwoa
    @Shdwoa 2 года назад +2

    she's going insane with that intense and high bpm osu standard map!!!!

  • @mushraccoon
    @mushraccoon 2 года назад +1

    As a person with dyscalculia this wildly reminds me of every math lecture I’ve ever had TvT

  • @PaGDu333
    @PaGDu333 2 года назад

    Geometry dash: Did anybody said “TEMPO”???

  • @_Guigui
    @_Guigui 2 года назад

    Everything until then has been all good, but the moment I heard "use an Excel spreadsheet" I cracked out of laughter

  • @accurate9835
    @accurate9835 2 года назад

    why were you using the super dark mode on discord???!????? you were using light mode in other videos!!!!!!!! and light mode is : thumbs_up : !!!!!!!!

  • @earthquaxe
    @earthquaxe 2 года назад

    the song you picked to map reminds me of roblox games 😭😭

  • @adami7777
    @adami7777 2 года назад +2

    interesting mapping tutorial i bet i can be one of the greatest osu mappers of all time if i follow this

  • @Furrniks
    @Furrniks 2 года назад

    The reason for your struggles is because you didn’t played osu with both of your hands on the keyboard like they showed on wikihow

  • @saturn6285
    @saturn6285 2 года назад

    lmfao i actually mapped that royalty free music a long time ago and I regret cuz of how much time I wasted making it

  • @demixy
    @demixy 2 года назад +1

    Saw the notification, clicked at sonic speed !

  • @lutriss
    @lutriss 2 года назад +1

    just looked at your channel earlier looking for a new video, here it is

  • @Apple_Beshy
    @Apple_Beshy 2 года назад +2

    try making a beat map using open AI it's fun doing it on easy maps

  • @yarshmellow2323
    @yarshmellow2323 2 года назад

    Im glad everyone seems to have hell with Osu timing. Like literally every other bpm calculator works idk why Osu makes it sound so off so often

  • @KeebyFan
    @KeebyFan 2 года назад

    this doesn't sound like charting but more like sharting

  • @deceptivecompactmemoryseal610
    @deceptivecompactmemoryseal610 2 года назад +1

    The Ultimate Tutorial that would make you a professional beatmap maker after reading

  • @cavecrystalcanoftuna
    @cavecrystalcanoftuna 2 года назад

    This attempt at a tutorial is........................something alright. Learning a rhythm game level editor as we speak; this is...not it...

  • @TzuchiKR
    @TzuchiKR 2 года назад

    Or you could just used the pre-timed Featured Artists section.

  • @GuivenYongChart
    @GuivenYongChart 2 года назад

    As a charter, this wikihow article make me puke rainbow.

  • @xlostsansx1966
    @xlostsansx1966 2 года назад

    Tomorrow is Singapore ''s 57th birthday

  • @sosotik
    @sosotik 2 года назад +1

    thanks now i can become sukiNathan

  • @feni_1553
    @feni_1553 Год назад

    Compile your game if necessary, then test your beatmap.

  • @havokikk673
    @havokikk673 2 года назад

    Motto kurakurakurakurakurakurakurakurakurakurakurakurakura

  • @teero121
    @teero121 2 года назад

    tokaku there is a brief mini game that sort of resembles a rhythm game in final fantasy 7 remake. you should totally play the game up until that point just for the mini game :^)

  • @ScratchdHelp
    @ScratchdHelp Год назад

    btw timing the map is called beatmapping >:(

  • @m4ri0.mp4
    @m4ri0.mp4 2 года назад +1

    Ah yes, the ultimate beatmap guide

  • @vodit51321
    @vodit51321 2 года назад

    WAKE UP!!!!! NEW TOKAKU VIDEO

  • @Notcosmicfire
    @Notcosmicfire Год назад

    Idk if this was intentional, but you look like Leafyishere in the thumbnail

  • @lloydlovesme7111
    @lloydlovesme7111 2 года назад

    After reading this guide I accidentally became a BN

  • @sammy_sand_utubeyt6901
    @sammy_sand_utubeyt6901 2 года назад

    I subscribed yesterday, and I just realized that this was a new video 😂

  • @goshawk6153
    @goshawk6153 2 года назад +1

    Ah yes, google spreadsheet the most useful resource

  • @themelancholyofgay3543
    @themelancholyofgay3543 2 года назад

    I have been trying to map ever since i started playing, i still make the worst maps.

  • @someone-fd6pz
    @someone-fd6pz 2 года назад +1

    bruh this is the last thing i've expected to have a wikihow page on

  • @slackreal
    @slackreal 11 месяцев назад

    i thought the thumbnail was osu!mania lmao

  • @rosheafan
    @rosheafan Год назад

    I feel like the only one who understood what this article was saying and mostly agreed with it lmao

  • @ClampyStew
    @ClampyStew 2 года назад +1

    wow wikihow so infomative

  • @eggboi2
    @eggboi2 2 года назад +1

    6:34 pishifat

  • @mqosu
    @mqosu 2 года назад

    This is the most overcomplicated tutorial I've ever seen