Learning osu! mapping with wikiHow

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
  • I found this incredible wikihow article on how to make rhythm game charts. So let's try learning how to make my first beatmap on osu with it!
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  • @Taro4012ITG
    @Taro4012ITG Год назад +180

    This is a completely insano guide on how to make a rhythm game and I don't think I've ever considered using an excel spreadsheet in my entire 17 year game development & rhythm game charting history

    • @Jono997
      @Jono997 Год назад +13

      I think you might get a chuckle out of the fact that a while after this dropped, someone actually made a spreadsheet-based charter for a rhythm game and it's legitimately the best tool for that game right now.

    • @IDGs_space
      @IDGs_space Год назад +1

      @@Jono997 please inform me on what rhythm game this is lmao

    • @Jono997
      @Jono997 Год назад +5

      @@IDGs_space Project Pentjet. It's a maimai-esque game with custom chart support... but no editor. And then some maniac decided to make one via a spreadsheet!

  • @TheGlitchyFox
    @TheGlitchyFox Год назад +549

    This is the best mapping tutorial of all time.

  • @diamdante
    @diamdante Год назад +288

    yo I literally just discovered this channel today and was watching some earlier videos, and just as I go take a break from work a new one drops. truly divine providence :')

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  Год назад +58

      welcome to the channel! ;)

    • @Chirouu
      @Chirouu Год назад +7

      now you will watch tokaku click circles for 10 years

    • @Chirouu
      @Chirouu Год назад +1

      @hasikau snow what

    • @chimklee
      @chimklee Год назад

      Welcome

  • @MTArtStuff
    @MTArtStuff Год назад +87

    Me: Can I get a beatmap tutorial
    Mom: We already have a tutorial at home
    Tutorial at home:

  • @mioguy1815
    @mioguy1815 Год назад +20

    pishifat got quiet after this dropped

  • @gunkeez
    @gunkeez Год назад +132

    I would use everything but wikihow to do basically everything

    • @hecko-yes
      @hecko-yes Год назад +14

      wikihow is the one place that taught me how to tie my shoelaces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @zezus001
    @zezus001 Год назад +220

    1. since when did you use dark mode?
    2. is the author of this article charting for Phigros?
    3. i can’t think of any good reason to time your chart using a spreadsheet… just visualizing the notes in your head would be easier
    4. this article sounds like the game you are charting for is unfinished or does not have a complete editor. in that case, why start charting now?
    5. i don’t think the author of this article understands what time signatures are… what song uses 2/4? i know of songs that use 2/2 but not 2/4
    edit: apparently 2/4 isn’t as uncommon as i thought
    edit 2: why does editing a comment take away the heart :(

    • @Elle_Super
      @Elle_Super Год назад +37

      2/4 isn't a weird time signature but it's mostly used for marches so I wouldn't expect Osu songs to use a 2/4 piece. I'd be surprised someone knew about 2/2 time but not 2/4???

    • @cooikemint
      @cooikemint Год назад +13

      2/4 is common, but not for songs in rhythm games.

    • @meepilee7991
      @meepilee7991 Год назад +30

      2/4 isn't really rhythm games but comes up somewhat often in classical pieces. Definitely more than 5/4 from my experience.
      So if the author of this article searched up "most common time signatures" it would probably show up there lmao

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 Год назад +1

      @@cooikemint wow, really? i don't think i've ever heard a song in 2/4...

    • @arnab_bukit
      @arnab_bukit Год назад +7

      2. nah, phigros uses timing in ms instead(unless its other fanmade program like PhiEditor which uses beats instead of ms
      edit: oh wait, wtf why theres flick notes

  • @artemisia6107
    @artemisia6107 Год назад +74

    i saw this tutorial on koifishu's server a few weeks ago and thought someone should make a map based on that tutorial and i can't believe someone actually did it

    • @hotgayfurryfeet
      @hotgayfurryfeet Год назад +6

      i saw ryuusei aika posting this tutorial on the avalon mapping server too lol

  • @hatefulbirdie3567
    @hatefulbirdie3567 Год назад +16

    "This tells you things and doesn't tell you things"
    It's the most suitable sentence to describe wikiHow.

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 Год назад +52

    Literally the best beatmap in the entire universe. Such a revolutionary creation 🛐

  • @isaacroansison2539
    @isaacroansison2539 Год назад +7

    It think “beats” means the rhythm of the song. What i mean is when you have a 4/4 time signature you add 1/4 (0.25) for every row. So that means every row will have 1/n more than the last row, N being the top of the time signature.

    • @cubruce1103
      @cubruce1103 Год назад

      i interpreted it as “quarter note in 4/4 is 1 beat and 16th note in that is 0.25”

  • @lunaresharmony
    @lunaresharmony Год назад +10

    I love how the tutorial is so wild that you double checked with the noisz devs

  • @scuriscuri4674
    @scuriscuri4674 Год назад +80

    This is one of the mapping tutorials of all time!

  • @tizurl
    @tizurl Год назад +16

    “How would you miss two notes on the same place if you played it yourself first?”
    Testify on Arcaea 4.0 day 1 be like:

  • @aliaseses
    @aliaseses Год назад +15

    how to make a good beatmap:
    the beatmap: *a map that looks like it was made in 1727*

  • @ThatOneBreadstickEater
    @ThatOneBreadstickEater Год назад +8

    As mapper I dont know how to feel about this.

  • @sneezebazooka6068
    @sneezebazooka6068 Год назад +6

    Dude the article feels like the article was too short cause it was made by someone who already assumed you had a competent level editor, and then someone who hasn't made a rhythm game before contributed to bulk up the article length.

  • @ahmetswag
    @ahmetswag Год назад +15

    1:20 i get that this is a joke and all but to find the exact starting point of a song and to determine the offset a song might have, an audio editor like audacity is required. otherwise you might just end up with an unsynced chart. at least thats what I need to do charting in ADOFAI because that's really the only game i charted anything in lmao

    • @tokaku
      @tokaku  Год назад +11

      Yeah, I was nitpicking there but it depends on the level editor you're using. For osu, they have timestamps that are as accurate as audacity (although you can't see the waveforms). The plus to using osu's editor over audacity for an osu mapper is also because you can slow down the preview for extra accurate timestamps without doing math on your end. I'm surprised ADOFAI doesn't have timestamps down to the miliseconds, it's something I would've expected from 7th beat... oh my

    • @ahmetswag
      @ahmetswag Год назад +5

      @@tokaku having timestamps like audacity in the ADOFAI editor was actually something i thought about a lot. although i had no idea how the developers would actually achieve it given that ADOFAI's editor works wildly different than any other rhythm game editor that uses waveforms and timestamps. I prefer it the way it is right now though cause I got used to it lol

  • @cenpaka4316
    @cenpaka4316 Год назад +5

    "How would you miss 2 notes in the same place"
    Testify happened.

  • @HOLYCOWofthesea
    @HOLYCOWofthesea Год назад +7

    Watching this made me realize just how valuable my music theory classes were 😅

  • @rukamasaki6678
    @rukamasaki6678 Год назад +4

    back in the days there used to be a good bunch of mappers who made maps for Rhythm Master (the one by Tencent, not to be confused) with Notepad for the absence of level editors and fan-made content support. like majdata format in some ways. it feels reeeally cool to visualize all the patterns in your mind tho

  • @barkey5741
    @barkey5741 Год назад +6

    Wow this tutorial is so good, it makes it look really hard lol.

  • @qsunshine.
    @qsunshine. Год назад +15

    from a fellow osu!std mapper: i can indeed confirm, that this indubitably is, an osu!mapping tutorial

    • @Electro_SRS
      @Electro_SRS Год назад

      From an osu!mania mapper I can comfirm that he doesn't understand both osu!ranking criteria and time signatures

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. Год назад

      @@Electro_SRS *she (she's a Girl lol, with a boyfriend, Tzechi)

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. Год назад

      @@Electro_SRS and also do you think that they actually wanted to learn from that? because they're just doing it for fun lol

    • @Electro_SRS
      @Electro_SRS Год назад +1

      @@qsunshine. no I mean the creator of the turorial

    • @qsunshine.
      @qsunshine. Год назад

      @@Electro_SRS OHH sorry

  • @bggamingdeluxe5658
    @bggamingdeluxe5658 Год назад +2

    5:23 me when the image shows a tournament spreadsheet.

  • @NatiiixLP
    @NatiiixLP Год назад +2

    If you're making a small enough game, then making a chart editor, or a level editor in case of other games genres, is an absurdly difficult task, so very few people/teams would venture down that road. That is, among other reasons, why almost no game has a level editor built into it, including, but not limited to, many rhythm games, especially before they become famous enough for anyone to consider making a custom chart. Hard-cording easy charts is pretty trivial, and a couple of people with very little knowledge can go through a sizable number of songs in a matter of days and turn them into relatively playable charts, all of that in much less time than it would take to create a half usable in-game chart editor.

  • @mxtty5633
    @mxtty5633 Год назад +3

    This is actually the most beatmap I’ve ever seen. 10/10

  • @lutriss
    @lutriss Год назад +1

    just looked at your channel earlier looking for a new video, here it is

  • @Shotios
    @Shotios Год назад +2

    Thankyou for enlightening us once again wikihow.
    (Great video seriously tho)

  • @Nothingending
    @Nothingending Год назад +2

    This video reminded me of how much i like watching your content.

  • @sammy_sand_utubeyt6901
    @sammy_sand_utubeyt6901 Год назад

    I subscribed yesterday, and I just realized that this was a new video 😂

  • @pangolinh
    @pangolinh Год назад +1

    “You will need to understand the structure of a typical song”
    Me trying to chart Death Grips songs:

  • @cobblert
    @cobblert Год назад

    this is awesome i just stopped playing osu so i really needed this!

  • @CamelliaFlingert
    @CamelliaFlingert Год назад +10

    as a new mapper myself i laughing so hard from this, especially from "you need to use audacity to see where to put timestamps" B R U H, i'm literally just always put some random BPM at my ear and then starts to editing it until it's perfectly fits to timing of track, and in most cases i guessing the correct BPM instantly, and yet my ears not so good at hearing main and important beats and i don't understand music theory at all :D but who cares lmao
    Okay i written this before watching the whole video, and now i'm dying from laugh completely, tip with using audacity was the most innocence on this tutorial XDDD i don't understand anything it's so cursed

  • @geoguessrplayer1
    @geoguessrplayer1 Год назад +2

    Out of all the mapping advice you could ever give to anyone, this certainly exists.

  • @TYsdrawkcaB
    @TYsdrawkcaB Год назад

    OMGG THIS IS THE GRAITTEST TUTOREAL EVAHHHH LIEK JUST LOOK AT DAT MAGNIFICENT BEETMAP TOETACKOO MAID JUST LIKE OMGGG

  • @OnnLoong
    @OnnLoong Год назад

    this toturial really inspired me into mapping

    • @-Saka
      @-Saka Год назад +1

      agreed

  • @heyn
    @heyn Год назад

    new tokaku upload!!!

  • @caelohm6217
    @caelohm6217 Год назад

    Thank you wikihow, very cool

  • @someone-fd6pz
    @someone-fd6pz Год назад +1

    bruh this is the last thing i've expected to have a wikihow page on

  • @Shdwoa
    @Shdwoa Год назад +2

    she's going insane with that intense and high bpm osu standard map!!!!

  • @GamesTheOracle
    @GamesTheOracle Год назад +3

    the spreadsheet had me fucking DYING lmfao

  • @sjihyo_
    @sjihyo_ Год назад +1

    "avoid breaking your rhythm game"
    aspire mappers: *unexists*

  • @adami7777
    @adami7777 Год назад +2

    interesting mapping tutorial i bet i can be one of the greatest osu mappers of all time if i follow this

  • @tarragon111
    @tarragon111 Год назад +1

    i mean yeah you could use a spreadsheet but if the song is at least known you can just search “bpm of [song name]” and then time the offset (or just crop the mp3 so there’s no offset)

  • @Hzul_
    @Hzul_ Год назад

    yay tokaku upload

  • @deceptivecompactmemoryseal610
    @deceptivecompactmemoryseal610 Год назад +1

    The Ultimate Tutorial that would make you a professional beatmap maker after reading

  • @thepersonwithnoname3326
    @thepersonwithnoname3326 Год назад +1

    7:10 I would like to clarify that this is definitely, a pattern

  • @hoshiro.exsharaen
    @hoshiro.exsharaen Год назад +1

    I don't think the tutorial works for game rhythms with a complete level editor (like osu or stepmania). Otherwise, it has some points. I used to create maps for taikojiro which does not have a level editor, so... yeah, mapping it with Notepad (then upgraded to Notepad++ and eventually Visual Studio Code) and test it directly at Taikojiro. With no level editor, a very basic understanding of music theory about measure/bar, note, time signatures and the understanding about the rules of a beatmap (in this case, TJA file) helps a bit, although sometimes for complicated patterns I usually just do trial and error until I get what I want (thankfully Taikojiro has a very basic song control and offset setting). For this reason I avoid "crazy patterns" (rapid changes in BPM or scroll speed) since they are very hard to "code" in text editors and visualizing them at the same time in my brain 😅 all my maps only follows the beat as close as possible to the music, and since it's a taiko game, I try to enhance the music with taiko hits (so no crazy patterns). Kudos for mappers with crazy patterns!
    Fortunately the tutorial does not require you to make note of the position (x and y) for each notes in the spreadsheet 🤣

  • @sleepieststella
    @sleepieststella Год назад +18

    3:37
    Those websites tend to be wrong most of the time. I wouldn’t recommend it for charting. You are better off finding the bpm through, Let’s say you are charting a song that is in Arcaea, Arcaea shows the BPM for that song. Let’s say we want to chart PUPA. Arcaea says the song is 202 BPM while this website would say it’s 101. Even though it’s half-time ( Half the song’s bpm ) It’s still necessarily incorrect…

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 Год назад +1

      Does it really change much? You can still time it properly using half or double time.

    • @sleepieststella
      @sleepieststella Год назад +1

      @@zezus001 Yeah, sometimes they do Half half-time.
      Ex: Galaxy Friends is 300 BPM but one website will say it’s 75. That’s half of 150 which is also half of 300.

    • @Meltiis
      @Meltiis Год назад +3

      @@zezus001 In terms of timing it doesn't matter, but it might change the way you map the song. If you were to put 2/2 onto 4/4, there'd be a strong accent on the third beat which could change the way you want to map something.

    • @zezus001
      @zezus001 Год назад

      @@Meltiis my brain is melting

    • @Lance0
      @Lance0 Год назад

      @@sleepieststella there's also half half half time and half half half half time
      tbf by the time this happens the song is already like 600 bpm or smth sooooo

  • @mushraccoon
    @mushraccoon Год назад +1

    As a person with dyscalculia this wildly reminds me of every math lecture I’ve ever had TvT

  • @ballsmaster6937
    @ballsmaster6937 Год назад +1

    this is actually how fieryrage times galneryus songs guys

  • @enoe4055
    @enoe4055 Год назад

    I have ascended my current state of mind watching this, truly evolutionary.

  • @reshiram181
    @reshiram181 Год назад

    Wikihow, my favorite mapper

  • @S1CK3_5
    @S1CK3_5 Год назад

    THANK YOU FOR THIS+

  • @BiceyIcey
    @BiceyIcey Год назад +5

    In my high school python class, I made a rhythm game for my final (imagine knock-off Everhood) but I didn't have time left to implement a mapping system so I used a library to import excel spreadsheets. The spreadsheet read the first 4 rows from left to right and would place a note corresponding to the character in each cell. Then at the bottom of the sheet, there was a box that contained all of the other info like BPM, Author, and total time. 0/10 would not recommend.

  • @MihateLilas
    @MihateLilas Год назад

    omg genius idea of video

  • @Apple_Beshy
    @Apple_Beshy Год назад +2

    try making a beat map using open AI it's fun doing it on easy maps

  • @ClampyStew
    @ClampyStew Год назад +1

    wow wikihow so infomative

  • @kecHik445
    @kecHik445 Год назад +1

    looks rankable already

  • @RezaRnew100
    @RezaRnew100 Год назад +1

    Well its basically wikipedia about editing osu map but Lite or if I should say fcked edition

  • @th1nks744
    @th1nks744 Год назад +2

    Sotarks got insecured looking at that beatmap

  • @jumrader1111
    @jumrader1111 Год назад

    bro yesterday I literally thought: where is tokaku? AND TODAY A NEW VID ARRIVED, CAN I SEE THE FUTURE?

  • @joelosteenrblx
    @joelosteenrblx Год назад

    Tokaku, next video is your try Kizuna Ai Touch the Beat, the game is has rating 10/10, perfect experience and ofc has kizuna ai in it that before added on Cytus 2

  • @buysharp3913
    @buysharp3913 Год назад

    this is gold

  • @teero121
    @teero121 Год назад

    tokaku there is a brief mini game that sort of resembles a rhythm game in final fantasy 7 remake. you should totally play the game up until that point just for the mini game :^)

  • @Aquwus
    @Aquwus Год назад

    im gonna jam

  • @oscarcruzalegui1518
    @oscarcruzalegui1518 Год назад +1

    So that´s the reason why my beatmaps are not ranked. I wasn´t using an Excel!

  • @karigrandi7
    @karigrandi7 Год назад +2

    very good beatmap! too hard for me though i cant stream ar 50 yet :(

  • @xerithur
    @xerithur Год назад +1

    dont be shy bestie upload the beatmap to osu

  • @dogenjoyer
    @dogenjoyer Год назад

    7:45 clone hero moment

  • @yarshmellow2323
    @yarshmellow2323 Год назад

    Im glad everyone seems to have hell with Osu timing. Like literally every other bpm calculator works idk why Osu makes it sound so off so often

  • @slightlyrustled
    @slightlyrustled Год назад +1

    osu's most rankable beatmap

  • @imconfuseddl1436
    @imconfuseddl1436 Год назад +3

    Wikihow: “Have a basic understanding of music theory”
    Also Wikihow: “Beat 0.25, 0.5, 0.75”
    AAAAAAHHH that is absolute pain. If you want to for some reason do this time consuming way of mapping out beats might as well just arrange an entire drum part so you can at least make it less confusing from going “beat 57-63 spinner” like you just making an arrangement but in complete text. If you know basic (or at least an intermediate level) music theory you could just arrange it because it would be easier to read and listen to because there if your going through the effort of trying to use external programs to organize work make something you could actually listen back to and compare with what you want your completed work to be and sound like.

  • @Binglesquirk
    @Binglesquirk Год назад

    fire

  • @blue4006
    @blue4006 Год назад

    What a nice tutorial : wikihow 2022 .
    Can you play PHIGROS i just want to know your review in that game 😣
    ( subscribed )

  • @m4ri0.mp4
    @m4ri0.mp4 Год назад +1

    Ah yes, the ultimate beatmap guide

  • @frnono
    @frnono Год назад +2

    audacity is actually useful for mp3 offset bro

  • @remu9348
    @remu9348 Год назад

    Yay new vidd

  • @witchymaoki5165
    @witchymaoki5165 Год назад +1

    the tutorial ever, the tutorial tutoried

  • @yumesekaiza
    @yumesekaiza Год назад

    tokaku slay

  • @cyber_gamerr
    @cyber_gamerr Год назад

    Best beatmap tutorial ever!!!!!!!1!1!! (2022) not clickbait guys!!

  • @gammamonikaaa
    @gammamonikaaa Год назад

    First, I love your content btw

  • @itsrezzy4263
    @itsrezzy4263 Год назад

    This is the most mapping tutorial

  • @vodit51321
    @vodit51321 Год назад

    WAKE UP!!!!! NEW TOKAKU VIDEO

  • @soryuaims
    @soryuaims Год назад

    yay the video to save me at 6 AM

  • @eggboi2
    @eggboi2 Год назад +1

    6:34 pishifat

  • @demixy
    @demixy Год назад +1

    Saw the notification, clicked at sonic speed !

  • @lotuwsq
    @lotuwsq Год назад

    This is the mapping tutorial ever

  • @prestonianvi9192
    @prestonianvi9192 Год назад

    this is the tutorial of all time

  • @longmai1686
    @longmai1686 Год назад

    Sht went real when she start mapping with spreadsheet

  • @bencenagy5459
    @bencenagy5459 Год назад +1

    Petition to make a 3 key rhythm game

  • @BA71BYGIRL
    @BA71BYGIRL Год назад

    bro sotarks math must be very good

  • @panntonii
    @panntonii Год назад

    I learned how to make a beatmap but at the same time I didnt leanr how to make a beatmap

  • @_Guigui
    @_Guigui Год назад

    Everything until then has been all good, but the moment I heard "use an Excel spreadsheet" I cracked out of laughter

  • @aaclovern9804
    @aaclovern9804 Год назад

    Pishifat has been quiet since this dropped

  • @cooikemint
    @cooikemint Год назад

    omg its tokaku

  • @annaerosewood
    @annaerosewood Год назад

    yes.

  • @uwu-zl6tq
    @uwu-zl6tq Год назад

    hey tokaku! what do you think about project sekai?

  • @felixgg
    @felixgg Год назад

    nice map

  • @saltyralts
    @saltyralts Год назад

    I feel like the only one who understood what this article was saying and mostly agreed with it lmao