I FOUND THE 2 RAREST VINTAGE RECEIVERS IN ONE PLACE!
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2023
- You will NEVER SEE these two Sansui Holy Grails Together AGAIN! The Sansui G-22000 and the G-33000 are the biggest receivers Sansui ever built! Sansui's Biggest Monster Receivers of all time!!
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Is the G-33000 & G-22000 a receiver or separates? Let me know in the comments, we will keep score and see who wins!
If you can't use one part without the other....they're separates, not a true receiver.
DEFINITELY Seperates IMO but could you buy them separately?
That is the Question, how was the Big Dog Listed on the Reciept?
@@dtracy03ss no you couldn't
Separates.
7:30 Eastern and votes are as follows...
11 - Seperates
14 - Receivers
Keep the votes coming!!
Separates. Not to be a jerk, and I truly appreciate the content, but the way you gents manhandle the controls of these aged units would get you asked to leave if it was my collection. Watching you try to spin the flywheel tuning from one end of the dial to the other in a single spin makes me crazy! Show these old girls some respect and kindness! 😁
I was thinking the same. It has an elephants in a porcelain shop vibe to me.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Glad I'm not the only one. I hate it when he does that.
Yeah I’d be pissed if that was my equipment and someone handled it like that
Vote counted 4-2! Gotta play with the toys!
My only comment on this video : I would never let you guys play with my Receivers because of the way that you flip those levers , spin the knobs and open the hidden doors as you do. I slap my friends when they tried that and I would definitely keep you away from doing it. That is one of my big gripes about the way people handle old stereo equipment. Hell I have an old portable Realistic 8-track player I am leery about other people touching, on that only because a lot of people don't understand 8 tracks. So keep that in mind when you're playing with other peoples Equipment.
If you hate us touching these stereos and are leary of 8 tracks you should watch the vintage radio collection video! Haha thanks for watching!
100%
I am the original owner of a G-22000, purchased in 1978. It was sold as a receiver. It came in two boxes, a preamp and an amp. The pieces can be bolted together for a combined total of 98lbs! A proprietary umbilical cord connects them. As I enter my 70s… I would love to see my beloved G-22000 go to someone who can truly appreciate the historical significance of this unit. Any takers?
I will love to take it.
Hi, what was the original G-22000 price in 1978? I am doing and investigation of prices
I d live to take it
I purchased a 9090 in 1977. (age 17) In 1990 my two year old blew a pair of speakers up... and himself right off the stool he used to access the receiver. lol. I guess I could have used a lock-out for the volume. :)
That Sansui is still punching it out today driving Monitor Audio Silver 300's G6. Beautiful!
Nice story!
I still feel the vintage Yamaha equipment is by far the best looking. Probably the best looking equipment ever.
IMO they sound as good as the new ones as well. I’ve got a restored CA-610II (50 wpc) driving Heresy 1’s. Had an itch for new. Auditioned an A-801 (100 wpc) on Heresy IV. Subjectively, mine was as good at normal listening levels. Bonus…the 610 has meters. I stream Tidal on a Node adds a volume control to any system.
10:25 Nasty way to treat that receiver...
The G-33k & 22K are receivers, simply because they have tuner sections, just like any other receiver. But due to its massive size and wattage, Sansui designed it as two modules interconnected.
Look at the front panel with its elegant styling and notice what is illuminated: DC Pure Power Stereo Receiver- there is the proof of the correct answer.
What should be noted is that the both models were only made for a short duration in 1978. This can be verified by the serial # in the back which has a code for its manufacturing date, as all Sansui units have, the third digit will be an '8' to indicate 1978. Perhaps a few made it into '79, but for those who purchased them that year, its likely to have been made in '78 and remained in a store's inventory until it was sold in '79. $1,300 plus was alot of money in those days, so thats probably a reason why not many were made, as it was not cost-effective to do so. Even a G-9000 itself, at 160 watts, is a "super receiver" and is more than enough for most vintage audio enthusiasts, such as myself, and that model was not too affordable either based on the average person's $ income back then.
I also find it interesting that when I look thru my vast collection of vintage audio magazines & buyer's guides, I barely see any ads or reviews of these two "beasts", unlike say.... the Pioneer SX-1980 in comparison. Sansui did advertise every month, with many ads on the G's, up to the G-9000, but there is not much I know of on the top two 33 & 22,000, which further supports my belief that they were made for a short duration, or maybe the mag reviewers were not able to procure either model for a lab test/report.
The G-22000 did come out a few months earlier than the G-33000, they did not come out simultaneously- this comes from what I have observed in my Sansui brochures, some of which look like foldout highway roadmaps, published by Sansui in the winter and summer months of the year. The first '78 brochure I have only shows the 22K, the next one that came out had the 33K.
As most of us know, these huge models peaked in 1978-79, and it was not longer after, as soon as the 80's started, that the quality cost-cutting became more noticeable. Its sad to look at the follow-up Sansui Z series of 1980-82, when the G 9700-4700 series was being discontinued, and see those elegant deluxe size volume and tuning knobs lopped off and amputated on the Z's, replaced with cheap flimsy pushbuttons.
But when it comes to needing 300 Watts or handling demanding speakers, the all time King of Sansui amps is the 1975-77 "monster", the BA-5000, weighing in at almost 110 pounds, picking one up is like asking to give yourself a hernia.
ps: I am the Admin of the 'Sansui Lounge' facebook group for anyone online who wants to join.
Thanks! Vote counted 6-8. Let me know if anyone in the group has big collections to tour. They can send their info to sales@just-audio.com
And yet Technics SA 1000 has all in one chassis and a staggering 330 WPC RMS.
YES! You guys found The Holy Grail of recievers! 💥The G-33000 & G-22000!
They are both two-piece receivers. Not technically separates. Official Separates do not combine tuner & preamp.
That mesh circle in the center of the power amp section is a built in fan!
*They are the most Beautiful looking, engineered & sounding "reciever" ever made!
Vote countes 6-6 and great point!
it´s stereo receiver with a proper power amp made by the brand to the receivers not tuner+pre but tunerwith amplification and a extra power amp as it happens with pioneer also and other brands
@@RUfromthe40s You just confused a simple issue here.
The Sansui two pieces include a separate power amplifier rigged to a control pre-amp with/& tuner in one other separate piece. The tuner & pre together is not a "reciever" without amplification to drive speakers.
Radio tuners & pre-amps can be purchased separately. That does not make it a Reciever rigged together. That makes it "Seperates".
Neither one can function independently without the other.
The two-piece Sansui receiver setup qualifies it as a unit.
I'm not aware of any other stereo reciever manufacturer building a two-piece Reciever? Pioneer did not do it. Nor did Kenwood or Yamaha. Mitsubishi had a simular setup to the Sansui giants, but Mitsubishi called it separates. Rightly so. It was a quite nice rack configuration with very attractive matching speakers!
Even integrated amps lack tuners. That makes that arrangement classified as "Seperates", not a Reciever minus a radio.
Now McIntosh currently or always had an integrated amplifier with a built in tuner, Mcintosh, themselves call it a Reciever. Technically, it qualifies as a Reciever. Three separate functions in one box.
I fail to see your point with the interchangeable "and" or "with"?
@@jamiesmith6838 i don´t remenber now the references but i think the sx-450 or 480 that were the cheapest Pioneer receivers in 74 to 79 or inbtween had output to a power amplifier this because the quality of the sound was ensured and if one wanted to conect extra power just needed to buy a power amplifier and they also looked good, this is seen also in other referencies but i don´t remenber them now but yopu can check the catalogs from 74 and 79, this ones for their size i thought they were a receiver and a extra power with other component didn´t seem because of the size they were only pre and tuner, i know the design but referencies i have to check them
@@RUfromthe40s Yes. But that's a different conversation.
I have a G-9000 & I can patch out to an axillary power amp using all controls on the G. Essentially operating as a pre-amp with tuner, or use the G-9000 power section independently from an outboard pre. Flexibility
The conversation, i thought was what declears the criteria for a Reciever? Two boxes or one?
Not functions & options.
I've owned Classé components with the pre-amp/power-amp option on their integrated in a bi-amp set-up.
I found there is a trade-off in fidelity doing such. It doesn't sound quite as coherent compared to running direct. Yes, it's more power.. however. There's a smir taking place. At least in my experience.
Classé CA-150 & it's integrated CAP-151 Specifically.
But, the conversation is welcomed all the same Rio C.
Sankyo was their own brand. They built allot of the motors you find in vintage cassette decks and turntables. Their cassette decks were pretty decent.
Yes Sankyo was a major player in the cassette deck, turntable motor business. They attempted to enter the retail stereo equipment market sometime in the 1980's, if I remember correctly the stuff was cheap and junky, hardly worth even considering as being collectible.
Awesome, saw this Last Night and Saved it to watch as my HI FI FIX For Today!!!
This needs a Part 2 and 3 Please!
There is a part 2 on this one (not sure when, but it will)
Now all three guys are knob obsessed. Hilarious!
When I was stationed in Great Lakes Ill in 1975., my friends and I used to go to downtown Chicago. There were some sketchy stereo stores that carried Sankyo and some other gear that had names similar to the real names. Love the treasure hunting videos. You found some real gems today. I wish I was a bazillionaire, sigh. LOL
Those delicate jewels do not deserve such rough treatment
Yep. I will never handle the switches with such disdain
For the Sansui G22K & G33K, the tuner section and the amplifier section DO connect via bolts that come from the factory. Aside from the power, the G22K & G33K have minor trim differences with the G33K having more metal trim and the G22K having plastic trim. For example, you can see in this video that there is silver metal trim along the bottom of the G33K amplifier whereas the G22K amplifier has grey plastic trim along the bottom. Both are amazing units!
That's a testament to how great Yamaha receivers are. The build and sound quality on their new models are comparable to their older ones.
what?where i live it´s a brutal diference ,i live in the far west coner of Europe. One of the only two countries in the world that have the right hour and we drive on the right side which is left
Why are you handling the equipment so roughly? I thought you were excited to find this treasure, and would treat them more delicately.
I can't wait till the day there is no more vintage pieces to sell.
SAE Impulse noise reduce-get rid of clicks and pops on vinyl (noises). I have a G 900db and a G-33k. Bought the 9000 in 80 and the 33000 a year later while stationed in Korea. I also bought the Pioneer PL 560 with the meter. I have some SAE stuff and a bunch of DBX equipment
Awesome pieces of history there! The G22 and G33 tuner pre are electrically, exactly the same. The G33 amp has bigger transformers and more voltage, but the amp boards are the same. And the G33 is of course, trimmed out nicer.
The 33 also has an extra pair of output transistors per channel. 22k has 6 per channel and the 33 is 8.
the stereo receiver till late 80´s THE TUNER WAS THE MAIN COMPONENT ON A RECEIVER OR SYSTEM IT WAS A SOURCE OF ALL MUSIC STYLES NEW or old MUSIC ,ONE COULD RECORD IT TO A TAPE ,TODAY I DON´T EVEN HAVE A TUNER CONECTED TO ONE OF MY SYSTEMS BUT I HAVE TWO RECEIVERS WORKING A sx-1050 AND A TECHNICS 505, IN THE MORNING IS THE FIRST THING I HEAR IS THE MUSIC FROM EARLY IN THE MORNING show, IN ONLY ONE RADIO STATION(SORRY FOR THE CAPS LOCK)
Man you guys are great, it's like y'all have metal detectors built in you, to smell transistors.and the like. Nice work guys !!
Hahaha
Yes they are receivers. They come in two parts because the whole unit combined is just shy of 100 lbs on a scale, they separated them for mobility. They can be brought together into one Giant receiver with a Dowel that holds them together and size becomes a new issue beyond even the regular monster receivers of the era. Also, don't forget, they are a true Dual Mono-Amp design. Two Separate power transformers etc. As I watch this video I glance upon my own G-22000.
Also the G22000 was first introduced in 1978 at Audio Shows, and for a moment of time, was their highest offering briefly. Similar to Marantz 2500 then came along the 2600, along those same lines. Stereo Wars.
You missed the Rega gear. I still use that set up. Brio amp and Planet CD
Excellent way to start a Sunday. Love seeing gear I've never seen before.
Sansui. Separates. Obviously.
Vote counted 6-5!
I always thought the Yamaha design aesthetics were beautiful, the slide rule tuning is so classic. I was never too concerned with the lights and switches, but the latter matched the overall look. It’s just very clean.
my favorite receiver in design is a Luxman from mid 70´s also with lots of power ,two litle power meters with nice but simple lightening ,i have a Sansui amplifier that it´s already from early 80´s that uses volume loudness ,from early 80´s is one of the best looking integrated amplifiers also marantz ,at this point owned by philips as also a great sound and golden which normally it´s a colour i don´t like, but this marantz series are great
Wow, what an awesome collection of gear! I think those big Sansui's are "separates", basically like the Adcom's were in the 80's, separate tuner/pre and power amp.
Vote counted 8-9!
14:31 all that knob talk got him all giggled up ha
Great video! I own a G33 and you can connect the two pieces. They came new with 4 button head allen bolts that attach the two pieces permanently together if desired. Also, some of the trim is different between the G22 and G33. I've viewed them side by side.
Very nice info! Thanks Jeff!
Yes sir on the project one I have the Mark 800 Mark 600 mark IV. Solid gear!
Those big Sansui's are separates, two units that work together tuner/pre and amp. McIntosh still has them. I do like the 80 series Pioneers and the Yamaha 20 series. I have a Yamaha CR-820. I did have a Kenwood 8010 125WPC and it was a beast, just not the top of the line so doesn't get much love. I like the style and quality of late 70's Marantz. I owned a Marantz 5020 cassette deck. Fun to see some of the big stuff I couldn't afford back then...
My Marantz 2216B purchased when I was 16, is still in operation. I had a Pioneer SX 780 45 watts per channel. Honestly, the 2216B with 16 watts per channel out performed it. Had them both at the same time. Pioneer was sold in 1985. My personal opinion is Marantz is better. Still have my Marantz 6300 with an AT100 cartridge. Unbelievable sound. About the same as my Denon 103R
The SAE noise reduction system was analogous to the DBX 222 or 224. Love these collection vids!
I bought semi kits and assembled myself in 1976 from Warehouse Sound in San Luis Obispo. Dynaco Stereo 150, Pat-5, and FM-5. Technics SL-3350 which I still have today with a Stanton D81EEE cart., a TEAC A3340S reel to reel, and in that store walked by a pair of AMT 1D speakers that reached out and said BUY ME!!!! On the way home my buddy and I took turns wearing the pair of Groucho marx glasses, matching the speed of random cars on the freeway and staring at the driver until they looked over at us and laughed. We busted up when one random driver looked back at US as he had his "windshield wiper glasses" on! Yeah we were just a couple of dorks but we sure had a lot of fun. Those were the days when you waited for the next new release by The Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones, etc from Tower Records! Yeah! Poor kids nowadays don't even have the attention span to open a record album let alone place it in a turntable and listen to Side 1 and then Side 2!
Having grown up in the 1960's & 1970's what I remember was the magazine advertising for mid and high end stereo equipment. Every company had an angle, why their product was superior the product of the other manufacturers. If they were at war with each other it was best illustrated by the HI FI audio advertising we saw in magazines. Remember no internet and no personal computers to distract us. If you were young and a man, especially, you wanted to impress with the best you could by and justify your purchase to your friends. It was quite the time for music and high end stereo.
Oh yeah those ads were great!
Yes, crazy collection ,legacy of music. Great work. ✌✌✌✌✌
🙏I'm from INDIA 🙏
The SAE unit is a pop and click suppressor. The Bose EQ for the 901s is not an amp, just a equalizer specifically for the 901
You are correct sir!
Did we say the eq was an amp lol. This isn't scripted so stuff could slip
They do make a bose receiver with the eq built in maybe I was talking about that
Active EQ
You have to visit Greenville,SC , Don Jones Custom Stereo ,he is still in his original brick and mortar store and still in business since 1970s ,a ton of stereo stuff and still does repairs 🎉
Added to my list, about to start traveling
wow, these are on my wish list
Receiver!!!. My buddy Dennis brought a G22000 amp/receiver set home from the Navy in 1979. Paired it with a technics (sp) turntable, reel to reel, and 4 matched Sansuii speakers. To this day, it remains the loudest, purest stereo I have ever heard. We got in soooo much neighbor trouble with that set. UFO lights out album was ON FIRE when cranked to 40% volume. Cops knocking on the door could not be heard. They were so pissed!! Unfortunately, a heroin addict and a baseball bat ended the set a few years in. I have been looking to buy one ever since, but now that their prices have sky rocketed....doubtful I'll ever pull the trigger on one....
Fantastic video lads
That Sony Receiver in a 6060 from 1968-69.
Wonderful unit.
Regarding the pioneer cassette deck. Had one given to me, did the usual, belts, cleaned heads, etc. Loved revisiting my 70”s mixtape collection for a few weeks till the motor died. Parted it out a few months back. Also, thanks for the explaining how Yamaha loudness control works. I think even when bought new, most never understood the dynamic loudness control (RTFM).
Thanks! Yeah, most people use the loudness controls wrong lol
I remember when the 22k/33k came out: the Sansui rep at the audio show they made their debut at in NYC referred to them as receivers. The rest of us shook our heads..."good thing they don't sell these by the pound", I think I've if used remarked.
Crazy, great story
Never seen either in the wild. I remember the advertisements in the stereo mags, just never seen one!! Very cool,!! Receiver!
Vote counted 4-5!
The big Sansui's are Heartbreakers...so beautiful
Sansui G-22000 and G-33000 are both separates and receivers. They fall in between, kind of like cassette tape type III FerroChrom and just as rare.
Receivers!!! These were the NEXT step AFTER separates. You get all the amp features PLUS you can listen to countless hours of non-stop music on the radio...and it sounds fantastic!!
And personally owning 3 different Sansui receiver lines, they all sound great with FM because that's what they were designed to do!
Well said!
Bought my first setup from MusicCraft in about the same year. Paid closer to $300, but was happy at the time.
Musicraft, Niles, IL. Suburb of Chicago, ad in every Sunday paper, huge Marantz store, I cried when they went out of business.
If Sansui calls them a receivers I guess I have to go with that. They look awesome!
Vote counted! 6-7
I think they were sold together as one even though it was two pieces. Also i dont remember any preamps with tuners built in from that era. So i would say they are the monsters of monster receivers.
The G-22000 and G-33000 are receivers. Receivers just need speakers to produce music. Receivers are typically in one chassis, but those 2 were so big, Sansui has to make them in 2 halves.
Monstrous !!
Very nice collection! Wow! My vote is "receiver" as, and maybe I'm wrong, I do not think you could purchase them separately?
I'm going to watch your video next.
Vote counted 4-3! I'm still mad I was out in Iowa last year for the fair and found out about you the week I got back! Next time, I will have to stop by!
Still have my Sansui rack receiver from 1985 and a few of the components that survived, some died.
Well.from the Sansui’s you presented us, I have the G 8700. Which is already big and heavy, 25 kg.
I recaped my G-22000, sounds great in my JBL 4435
While receivers are great, separates won me over early in the game. The only problem with separates is making sure you have enough breakers in that main panel! Especially when some double power corded amps amps suggest each plug goes into a different leg! Most homes have two legs but seldom will you find receptacles of different legs close together unless it's in the plan. My Outlaw 7 channel 300W per channel has two power cords.
That Sony 60 60 that you were shooting your load on has a major problem with the MPX functions of the stereo light never works.
You guys find such cool stuff
Thanks Richard! We are out filming this week and will be finding some great treasures
Sansui G series were considered integrated receivers. at least in my old store
Vote counted! 9-13 thanks buddy
Technically, the G33000 and G22000 are separates, because the chassis are separate. However, I believe the 2 pieces had to be purchased together, and there was a special cable, with unique connector, used to electrically join the two pieces, so you could not easily use the amp portion with other equipment. In that sense, they were receivers. Kind of a wave/particle sort of debate here.
Vote counted! 9-11
Yes it is a receiver and you can hook them together, the first time I saw one and the G9000 which I still have today in perfect shape was 1978-79 Audio Show At SanFran Auditorium the ran about 8 or 10 Large I think the electro voice speakers off one receiver proving they run fine at 2 ohms it was Amazing Sound coming from a receiver it’s like a commercial amp just fantastic.I run my 9000 off of double stack jbl pa speakers that are rated up to 2000 watts as well as 4 Yamaha pa speakers it’s like a concert hall you can also hear it all the way down the block , Sorry for the neighbors needless to say it doesn’t get to do that but once or twice a year, I really like your videos
question? those speakers with the like diamond shaped wood grill on front any idea what those are? my dad had that sort of thing way back in the day and im super curious.
Typically a pioneer or sansui but several speakers had the design like that in the 70s
@@LennyFlorentine thanks so much!im sure it was pioneer as he had and then later i did a pioneer quad reciever.
About 4-5 or so years ago I was on ebay and a Sansui G-33 still in the box never opened was going for 17k So crazy, my dream Receiver. Also would love to have a Technics SA-1000 or the SX-1980 Someday someday :D
Agree with others who are a bit taken aback with how you're pretty rough with these. You guys clearly have some knowledge of vintage audio but you're handling someone's pride and joy collection, if they belonged to me I would escort you guys out. You will not be allowed near my collection, and it's nowhere near as awesome as what you showed. Thanks for sharing, hopefully they didn't get damaged. Oh, and definitely separates.
Separates, very nice separates!
2-0 Seperates
I’m a Technics fan so I took a screenshot of the awesome technics piece to try and get the model number? Any ideas please I’d love to find one in the UK. I think the 2000 & 3000 are separates and so cool
2200 & 3300 I got it wrong lol
Marantz Blackface receivers is the coolest, i have a 2226 blackface with a new aftermarket WC-22 wood case
Musicraft? I think that was on dempster in morton grove il… could be wrong…
project one was sold by sound pro stereo shop. they sold higher end stuff liike crown
I'm a fan of Separates!
This Sansui receivers are very cool, but they are to big but very nice locking.😀
I've never seen one of the G-33000's. Can you tell me the name of that place and where is it? I would appreciate it. Thanks
Bought my first stereo at Musicraft
To each their own. I prefer performance over how it looks. I bet an $80 Aiyima A07 sounds better. My new 150 wpc BasX was on sale for $300 and it looks nice as well.
I own a sansui g 33000 I was told when I purchased it that it was a receiver why would it be anything different?
Mein Neid ist so groß, das ich tatsächlich beim Gucken eures Video's schmerzhafte Stiche in der Brust verspüre!
Winner of Receiver wars= Pioneer SX 1980. I had one. Never should’ve sold it 270/ channel 88 lbs
I have a mint Sylvania CR 2743 receiver, I think it has a couple bulbs out, I have been in a few receivers over the years,, But I cannot see how to get inside this one,,,could you help? thanks//
Receiver :) what a monster yikes🥰😍
How close is Middle River to Perry Hall?
10 minutes
11:45. SO SEARS LXI MONKEY WARDS AND RADIO SHACK ALL WERE HITACHI
ANY LUXMAN M300 ON THAT INCREDIBLE STORE ???
i didnt know the giant sansui's were even made
No focus on that Giant 2 piece Rotel RX-1603?
We have some missing footage from this one, don't worry we may have that in the future.
@@LennyFlorentine I recently restored one of those units. No G-22000 but a very interesting piece nonetheless.
It’s great that you guys get to see such cool stuff, but it sure would be cool if you educated yourselves on some of it. Loudness on a stereo is not compression. The loudness button/switch/knob is a simple EQ boost of high and low frequencies to be used lower volumes in order to compensate for the human ear’s inadequacies at deciphering those frequencies, when the volume is low.
Compressors work in a completely different way, squishing down the dynamic range subsequently making quiet sounds louder and loud sounds quieter.
I, as many others do, appreciate the aesthetics of this old equipment, but it seems like you guys are experts on the look and not the sounds and features.
Did anyone spot the KRELL PAM-3 and KRELL KSA 50?
So amazing So buatifull
What about Krell separates below the Sansui's ? That's the real high end.
Nothing to look at though
it's not separates,c because there is a tuner, amp, and Preamp in one box, the McIntosh you didn't recognize is a C 20 pre amp, a famous piece. pair that with a period Mc amp and it will best the big sansui's easily. all Receivers are the result of compromises.
Thanks for voting! 2-1 Seperates!
Technically sold as receivers.
If you can play AM FM radio, it's a receiver.
Vote counted! 6-9
Hybrid because if you turn them back to back they do bolt together and become 1 piece receiver and they can be used with other componets but they will not work with out each other the tuner/preamp has all the controls to even turn it on. I bought my G22000 new when I was 16 and still have it today at 62. not in use and probably needs to be re-capped but?
Wow a G-22000 at 16! Gotta get it into us for repair
Where are all the german Grundig, Dual, Sabas ?
i had a g-22 two shops i sent it to couldn’t repair it
Its a receiver do to the way it interconnect with the six pens and not RCA
I consider them to be receivers as you cannot use one without the other.
One part is a tuner preamp the other is a power amp.. Separates..
Yeah, I would instantly slap after the second unnecessary switch flip
1300.00!!!!!! Oh man!!!