This was a fun quiz but wayyyy too much wrong info if you're going to run it again. Like not even minimal research (Zack finding Terry is an orphan mid video) but even consistency within the video - you cited Kirby as being the most powerful character because he can canonically time/space travel at will, but then didn't even include him in the list of time travelers? Panda, Panda, if you need help making lore quizzes sign me up
My favorite part about Mario being on the arrested question is that there's a canon in-game example (Sunshine) and a silly non-canon other media example (he was arrested in a commercial for Mario Party).
@@icedude_907 his body is weak so he can’t help Roy, but he’s very much alive. Hector, eliwoods friend and one of the other main characters in fire emblem 7, does die.
@@gogetablack5384 Kirby is so overpowered that he fixes all problems without having to tap into that kind of power, and people still argue he's not the most powerful character in fiction.
@@deathserpent9747 They aren't even close. In fact, it's SO not close, they aren't usually even mentioned in discussions like these. Also, all of those characters have lost fights in the past. How many has Kirby lost? Yeah...none. Main character plot armor ALONE beats all of them.
Marss actually deserves a point for "Which playable character has canonically interacted with a real life celebrity?" Danica Patrick and Simon Lane both interact with Sonic in _Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed_ - Marss should have technically won this quiz!
Mario met lots of celebrities is the old TV show... which I normally wouldn't count, except for the fact that they pulled Meta Knight's age from the anime, so apparently stuff outside video games does count.
@@ultlifeform if stuff outside of video games counted then why isn't Sonic the canonically most strongest character because Archie Sonic exist and he's way f****** stronger than Kirby
Fun fact: Young Link could technically be considered on the list of characters who have children seeing as how the Twilight Princess Link is the descendant of OoT Link which means that the Link of the child timeline had to have a child of his own and since TP Link doesn’t have any royal blood then he’s not related to Zelda in any way so OoT Link likely ended up with Malon.
@@moosesues8887 what does that... even mean? Young Link would have been able to get with Malon in the child timeline, which goes towards Twilight Princess.
Lucas isn’t an orphan- his mother is dead, but his father, flint, is seen throughout the game intermittently. He even explains the boss’ relation to Lucas.
A orphan is someone who lost their mother and/or their father. So, technically, Lucas is a orphan, because his mother died. Same with Fox, but it’s his father who died.
7:20 although Joker is the most obvious answer, to add to the list of “arrests” I would like to add Young Link (Gerudo Valley as Marss mentioned) and also Toon Link, who can be captured in the Forsaken Fortress, and put in jail, by militant pigs working for an evil guy… soooo if that doesn’t count as an arrest… Also Ganondorf himself got arrested and put on trial in Twilight Princess so him too
Zelda could also potentially count because the version of Zelda in ssbu is a combination of the Zelda's from A Link to The Past and A Link Between Worlds....who both get arrested/captured by their own military
@@dionysusdescent274 yeah I feel like if you get put in jail by a militant force that’s all that should be needed to count as an “arrest”. There seems to be some hidden criteria like it’s “modern police” or something but it isn’t explained in the vid
I haven't played most Zelda games but based on your wording I'm curious if the Links are unavoidably arrested as part of the story or if the arrest(s) only occur if the player fails a stealth gameplay section? If the latter is the case then I imagine performing the stealth section correctly would be considered the canon version of events rather than including potential player error.
I’m pretty sure Mythra would be considered for “characters who have committed a war crime” like her and Malos while fighting destroyed several titans with innocent people living on them, whether or not it was intentional is irrelevant, she still did it
From Wikipedia: Under the law of armed conflict (LOAC), the death of non-combatants is not necessarily a violation; there are many things to take into account. Civilians cannot be made the object of an attack, but the death/injury of civilians while conducting an attack on a military objective are governed under principles such as of proportionality and military necessity and can be permissible. Military necessity "permits the destruction of life of ... persons whose destruction is incidentally unavoidable by the armed conflicts of the war; ... it does not permit the killing of innocent inhabitants for purposes of revenge or the satisfaction of a lust to kill. The destruction of property to be lawful must be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war."
Yeah I came here to say this. The whole point of "the power of waking" in KH3 was basically that time travel is bad and has a heavy cost which is why the bad guy has to be stopped so Sora uses the power of waking to stop him and pays a heavy cost. He definitely time travels.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa. If you count Fox then you have to include nearly every FE lord because they can have children in multiple endings, just like Fox in star fox command.
It’s true. However, Lucina can only have a child (Morgan) if she marries Male Robin. In the case of Fox, it’s only in *ONE* ending from Star Fox Command. We ignore witch ending is canon, because Fox and friends have a different fate in each of it. Take Krystal as an example: In some endings, she’s with Star Fox, but in others, she’s with Star Wolf instead. Ik, Star Fox Command and it endings are hell!
@@Manuacs true. Her father wasn’t around, but her mother was vividly depicted (very similar look to Peach). But that’s one thing neither SMG 1 or 2 explains: how is Rosie living for so long. Either she’s part of an alien species they never mentioned and somehow isn’t human, or maybe living in space (or eating Star Bits) for long enough period of time lengthens your life expectancy. No idea
@@carlospolk5033 Time is slowed if you stay near a supermassive object, such as stars and black holes. Thus Rosalina could technically be eons old, but still be only 30.
For the time travel question, you really need to specify main canon. Every Pokemon available in Heartgold/Soulsilver technically are a part of the list due to the event in the game, and if not that, then Mystery Dungeon should count. (No matter what though, Pichu has canonically time traveled.) Every Zelda character should be on the list due to Hyrule Warriors and Calamity. The one that amazes me that was missed, was Sora. Timeless River in Kingdom Hearts 2, and Dream Drop Distance has a bit of time travel going on.
The only characters in Age of Calamity that time travelled were Terrako and the 4 present era champions (Sidon, Teba, Riju, and Yunobo). Link, Zelda, and Ganon did not.
@@SteelPokeNinja Breath of the Wild Link wasn't in original Hyrule Warriors and that was also technically a different Zelda. Ganondorf would probably count though, since he's more of an entity.
Also Byleth who's entire gimmick is being able to time travel back a few turns to fix mistakes. I'm also very sad that the animal crossing villager wasn't there even though it's not exactly canonical lol.
There are definitely more characters that have committed war crimes, there is no way that nothing Bowser has done is a war crime, and sephiroths victory screen in smash is literally a reference to him burning a civilian village to the ground if I remember correctly, and there are 100% more things that I don't know about/don't remember rn
With Bowser, I’m not sure if he’d be a war criminal or just a terrorist. But if it turns out he actually is in a war against the Mushroom Kingdom and not just overthrowing it, for sure he’s committed war crimes. If we also count Archie Sonic as part of other Sonic canon, he’s also a war criminal in some major senses.
@@VVheeli someone in /r/fireemblem did a list of all the Fire Emblem Lords to list out their official war crimes and... every single FE lord commits several War Crimes, just, some are much worse than others.
8:11 The spiky eared Pichu, which is one of the available outfits for it, travelled in time by the magics of Celebi; and was kept as the main evidence that time travel exists in the world of pokemon!
And in pokemon super mystery dungeon, the player is a time traveling human and so is the partner. So technically Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Greninja, Pikachu, and Lucario have time traveled
Due to the nature of the questions, Species characters are excluded from the list because they represent an entire species rather than a single character
As far as the War Crime question goes you might as well throw every Fire Emblem character in there for at the very LEAST enlisting children to fight in your straight up war.
killing medics during war is considered a war crime iirc, therefore every fire emblem character has the ability to commit a war crime cause they can kill enemy healers, that would include: all of em
not to mention FE characters actually commit war crimes in war, which is debatably a necessity to count as a war crime. a lot of "war crimes" that characters commit isn't in actual wars.
You guys need to do more research on some of this stuff because you're seeing a lot of people correcting you. One of the big ones you screwed up was the fact that Sora did, in fact, time travel. It was literally the main thing in Kingdom Hearts 3 Re Mind.
Not just that, in Kingdom Hearts 2, he goes back to the Black and White era of Cartoons, and it's explicitly stated that the Mickey and Pete he interacts with are the ones that will later be King Mickey and the evil Pete, not just a world with very similar people.
@@jacklantz7535 The only playable Link that has time traveled is Young Link. It's fair to say that reincarnations of the same character cannot count, or all Links and Zelda's would immediately qualify.
Ridley being canonically tallest is basically a freebie question. That was the ENTIRE reason why he had such a rocky relation with him getting into Smash.
It wasn’t the the whole nor the main reason why sakurai didn’t see him in smash (it was only one of the few reasons, it’s the fans who latched on this specific reason)
@@Zoroark_Master Shokio is a competitive Smash player who was the person that started the (Ridley is too big) debate, he's also the idiot on RUclips who said that anyone who likes Steve's inclusion in Smash is mentally ill just for a joke of bad taste simply because he thought that "Steve is a cringy annoying character to fight against that doesn't fit Smash who carries players since they don't have to try their best and learn fundamentals" This is all happened because Shokio is a scrub who used the John of not wanting to learn the Steve/Alex match up...
What war crimes does Joker commit? Because while grand larceny is certainly illegal, I do not remember killing a God being against the Geneva Conventions.
I wonder if that broadcast signal intrusion to announce Shido as a wrongdoer counts as a war crime. Even though it was technically Futaba who did it, he is the leader of the group so responsibility lies with him. In fact, since it relates to a political candidate I'm sure that's it.
There is also the fact he was forcing people to have change of hearts against their wills. Yeah he was only doing it to those that are scum, but he was effectively brain washing people
I love how most of the answers arent complete. orphans didnt have byleth, whos dad dies on screen, and arrested characters didnt have ganondorf, a guy who got executed on screen after his imprisoniment
Actually, according to Websters 1828, an orphan is a CHILD who is bereaved of parents. Assuming Byleth is an adult, they aren't considered orphans. Edit: Correction, apparently you are still considered an orphan if only one parent is dead, and since Byleth's mother died in child birth, they are considered an orphan
Very funny that the quiz put Roy in the Orphans category, considering he's the only Fire Emblem protagonist in the series to not be an orphan. Eliwood does survive the story of Fire Emblem 6.
Lucina is an Orphan canonically, since we play as the Lucina that time travelled into the actual Awakening story. Her parents (or at least the Chrom of her timeline) was killed.
@@hunbi1875 and they included Roy, even though during FE6 Eliwood his dad is still alive, albeit sickly and probably not too far off his death bed. But still alive.
The orphan question was honestly missing a good amount of people, Ryu and Kazuya for example. Ryu was an orphan that got adopted but then his adoptive father was “killed” and Heihachi recently died leaving Kazuya fatherless 😔
I'd like to argue that Bowser Jr. has committed war crimes, as in sunshine he not only created monsters (Which could have possibly destroyed Delfino Plaza, making it destruction of a town), but made Peach sit on a small duck in a pool of acid that would kill her if she fell in (Inhumane treatment) .
Forgotten Time Travelers: Byleth. It's part of the reason that they're so canonically powerful. It's not as expensive as the others, but they can rewind multiple times at will.
The rationale I usually see for excluding them is that whether or not they show up is down to player choice, since you only get them if Robin or Corrin get married, but their children still exist in dlc either way, so I'd say they count
Robin can technically choose to be a virgin if you never reach S-support with anyone. whereas Chrom is forced to pair up with the female character with the highest support level because Lucina is an integral character to the game's plot. I still think Robin should've been included anyway, because like 99% of players are going to reach S-support with someone unless they deliberately go out of their way not to.
@@grey-c8138 Then so are all the kids from the future. You cannot both exclude the likes of Robin and Corrin from the child question and also include both Chrom and Robin for the time traveler one.
A few charactera missing from the "arrested" question. Ganondorf being arrested to be executed in Twilight Princess and Pyra being taken into custody by Tantal to be destroyed
@@CaptainDCap Ultimate's Ganon is the Ocarina Ganon, which, fun fact, is the same person as Twilight Princess Ganon. so, yeah, he should've been included for the "arrested" question.
@@climbhazzrd4313 Why on earth would you even give the exact same answer six minutes apart? Fun fact: That's not how chronological continuity works. "Hey Ganondorf! It's me, you from the future! Yeah, I've been arrested. You have a criminal record, now." No.
They forgot that Ganondorf was arrested thanks to Young Link going back in time to prevent him from doing anything, and he was imprisoned in the Twilight Realm, so yeah he was arrested.
Ummm. Panda crew? You guys have missed at least one character who time traveled. Sora went back in time to the Timeless River World in Kingdom Hearts 2. I still think this quiz was a great idea though.
Sora's also involved in time travel in Dream Drop Distance (with Yen Sid's assistance to begin his Mark of Mastery exam), and twice in KH3 (the first time to undo the damages caused by Terra-Xehanort and the Demon Storm, and the second time to put Kairi back together in Re:Mind).
Also for the canonic children, technically Robin and Corrin should be on that list too. You can choose to not get them in the game, but canonically they exist.
This is a pretty cool video idea and all. But can you please tell your cutter, that they should put the reveal to the answers a little bit longer on the screen? Who can read/look at pictures this fast? I certainly can't. trying to look at the answer which vanishes in a split second, then havong to rewind the video to that exact split second and pause it, repeating this process for every single answer, is such a pain on mobile phone.
I watched on a smart tv and literally had trouble realizing the answer was on screen, grabbing the remote, and pausing in time. It's waaaaaaay too fast.
@@toumabyakuya Just Hinawa. I understand it's just bad memory on your end but you could at least double check before you try to confidently say someone else is wrong :/
I've got two problems 1. Many characters on the orphan section, such as Lucas, aren't orphans, as they have at least one parent alive. 2. Literally every single Fire Emblem lord has committed at the very least one War Crime: Child Soldiers.
I knew watching the Kirby anime wold come in handy at some point. Meta Knight being 50,000 wouldn't even be in top 10 of the weirdest thing I've heard about this franchise if I didn't already know it.
The time travel question was just wrong. Sheik did not time travel in Ocarina of Time. Zelda, however, did time travel in Skyward Sword. They got that straight backwards.
Well tbf this is a different Zelda and if you want to count every Zelda incarnation then you also have to count Sheik. So it's either both or neither depending on interpretation. I say neither.
If you guys do this quiz again, it might be worth swapping "canon" for "in a main series title". Makes confusing situations less common. Like Little Mac meeting Mike Tyson probably isn't considered canon in Punch-Out lore by Nintendo since Mr. Dream replaced him, or Sonic and Mario having met NBA players or the Yogscast. (Weird moments in game history..) Doesn't make the video any less fun to watch, though, just maybe a little frustrating for anyone playing.
Really like to know what constitutes as an orphan and what doesn't by this quiz's standards. I felt like Snake and Kazuya would qualify for some combination of having been given up by their parents and/or the parents both dying eventually, but neither of them were counted despite Lucas and Bayonetta counting, and their fathers were still alive and present for much of their stories.
Snake counts. He is basically a super soldier created by the government that was genetically modified in the womb of a human and then taken away. Kazuya could count depending on when his parents died, an orphan is a child who lost their parents after all.
@@DharshM0 Kazuya was 5 years old when his father killed his mother, and then threw Kazuya himself off a cliff and left him for dead. Even though he survived, he was completely on his own past that point and spent the next 40 years just preparing to kill the old man.
Sora has definitely time traveled. He even retorts to the bad guy, who was shocked by this revelation, "What? Did you think you were the only one who could time travel?" or something along those lines
That "canoncically powerful" question should have been more lenient based on the players' justifications, since it's such an open-ended question and stuff like canonical power is always open to interpretation.
Nah, better stick with the facts, than let some edgy weebs have an inch of say over anything. Sorry people, but Sephiroth is not that strong, and is barely a planet buster at most.
Shouldn't Rosalina be on the time travel list? Since the Star Festival occurs every century, and Mario has celebrated at least two, there has to be some time manipulation going on there. She even mentions something about a cycle of rebirth at the end of the game.
Adding onto a lot of the comments about the answers, Robin should be an acceptable answer for canonical parents, all of the child units in Awakening are definitely intended to be canon considering several of them go on to exist in Fates. Also from awakening, Lucina should be an answer for orphans for obvious reasons.
8:53 I would like to bring to your attention the final arc of the Silver Snow route of Fire Emblem Three Houses, where Byleth uses the uniforms of captured enemy troops to wear and then sneak into the enemy base to strike at them from within. This is in direct violation of Article 39 of the 1977 Protocol 1 Amendment of the Geneva Convention, point 2 which reads "It is prohibited to make use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or in order to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations." Byleth Commits War Crimes. And if they don't, they travel back in time to do it.
Yeah, alot of those picks I wouldn't consider. Either they still have a parent alive, like Lucas or Roy, or their remaining parent dies in their game, but they're well into adulthood at the time, like Bayonetta. (I know you can be an adult orphan, but then you could define that to anybody eventually. The context implies, "grew up an orphan".) There's still enough to answer the quiz though.
That is what I was pondering. Flint (Lucas' father) was still alive but he literally spent the rest of the game trying to look for Claus (taking place in over a 3/4 year time skip). He didn't even care for Lucas at the time. It's a technicality but since Flint wasn't caring for Lucas that entire time, Lucas technically is indeed an orphan.
@@zeospark9715 Didn't Flint die near the end, though? I mean, I do remember that both him and Haniwa speak to both Lucas and Claus from the Other World during the Final Boss fight.
Robin, Corrin, Olimar, both Aegis, Solo, Erdrick, and technically Snake are also parents. The Luminary is a little complicated but he could be argued to be.
"Being a Smash pro can only take you so far..." --- Me, I guess Also they messed up a ton. The Zack guessing Terry right moment proves this. Byleth and Sora were not included in the time travel section, either? Bruh moment.
@@micheledelloglio5820 Lets just say war crimes dont exist in FE lol. People waged war all the time. Law and Order wasnt a thing yet. Even if law existed whether by Church (like the Begnion in Radiant Dawn), all of them were corrupted for reviving [blank] in the games
@@corrinfevincenohr Yeah, well Cloud exists in a fantasy world where the Geneva Convention doesn't exist, but was still listed as an answer. If something's a war crime in our world and they did it, then they should've been listed.
@@alexshafer7374 In Midgar, everything is legal. Fighting mechs in Mako Reactor No.X? You may get chased but if you run enough to 7th Haven or Honeybee Inn, you can never get captured for your warcrimes cuz they are fooking NPCs. Shinra: What the heck is a war crime? lol
No one remembered Sonic Adventure 2 literally started with Sonic being arrested. City escape starts with him breaking out the police chopper. And then Metal Harbor is him after he got broken out. Lol
Lucas isn’t an orphan. His dad, Flint, is a playable character in the beginning of the game, and he shows up throughout the rest of the game as a non-playable character.
Before you ask me why Fox’s father is named James and his son, Marcus, remember: If Fox’s second in command was in couple with a female cat, everything is possible in the Lylat system!
Terry isn't just an orphan he's a double orphan, because his real parents aren't around (we don't know the details) and his adopted father died, but so is BOTW Link (the calamity and 100 years will do that) and also arguably Ryu.
@@TerrariaLuvr She's the same age as link. He mom was already dead prior to the calamity and her dad died during the calamity on her 17th birthday. So she would count but obviously she isn't in this game so it doesn't matter
samus was the only character i knew for sure was an orphan so i guessed samus, rosalina, cloud, and terry so zack finding out he knew better than the quiz was a HUGE relief
1) Oldest Smash character lore-wise? I know Bayonetta's hundreds of years old, but Kirby's probably got a greater lifespan (though might be called an "unknown" depending on if he had a number ever described) plus Meta Knight too. [Meta Knight at 50,000 according to the anime. This feels like it could be whoever you wanna count though.] 2) Let's see if I can remember that "Smash characters who smashed" video... Chrom's daughter is Lucina, Fox potentially has Marcus... Olimar is a father, Bowser has Bowser Jr and Koopalings, and Fire Emblem I think had a few different marriage and child options. [Forgot Kazuya has a son, and Pac-Man. Of course Simon and Richter have children, it's a bloodline of Belmont. And yeah, Rosalina's (adoptive) children are the Lumas. Interesting they considered Pokemon; they can breed, but these ones haven't necessarily bred.] 3) Steel Diver, Galaga (I'd argue Pac-Man gives all arcade Namco representation though)... I think Killing Edge was from something but I don't know the name. [Motion Sensor from GoldenEye I suppose, I remembered Panel de Pon had an item when Marss said it.] 4) Canonically most powerful, I think it was agreed to be Kirby who's fighting world killing gods on a daily basis. Sephiroth and Bayonetta best contenders. 5) Ridley's canonically the largest character, come on. Bowser enjoys being huge now and then, but on average Ridley, had the whole meme. [How only Little Z got that, I have no idea.] 6) ROB is real, literally (introduced as) a toy. [Miis, you two? A Mii is an avatar, you are not a Mii.] 7) Little Mac interacted with Mike Tyson in the first game, though he later got replaced by Mr Dream. Unsure if there was anyone else. 8) Largest game map... Minecraft, right? It's a single map that loads in chunks, only maybe rivaled by Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade (haven't touched any of Chronicles so unsure what the size is like there). You can go straight very far in Minecraft though, in any direction. 9) Let's see, orphans... Lucas's parents died to a dinosaur I think, Ridley killed Samus's parents, Fox lost his father, can't remember if Balder was Bayonetta's father, think he died anyhow? [I didn't consider Zelda or Fire Emblem. Bayo is on that list though, so yay me.] 10) Any Mario Sunshine speedrunner knows Mario was arrested. Link could be arrested in OoT, Snake plausibly (never played the game), Joker was a prisoner of fate or whatever... 11) Mario & Luigi (Partners In Time), Bowser and Peach are in there too, Young Link (Ocarina of Time), Bayonetta visited the past in the 2nd game, and that's the ones off my head. [Right, Lucina's whole deal was she changed her destiny. Ness also did time travel to fight Giygas I think, but as a robot since his body couldn't make the trip.] 12) I don't know anything about war crimes. Snake and Wolf possibly, other villains, but I'm out. [So Snake does do things of course, he's basically in wars so he's doing things. I can't say much about Joker or Cloud though, I'll have to look into it.]
I don't know all the specifics of committing war crimes, but I feel like Kazuya dropping a satellite on a city full of civilians might constitute his inclusion on the list.
The closest thing I can assume to be a war crime committed by Joker is how towards the end of P5 the Phantom Thieves hijack every piece of technology in Tokyo, overriding security protocols from every angle to broadcast a public call-out to one of the villians. Whether or not this counts as a war crime, you have to hand it to a band of teenagers with metaverse powers being able to change society for the better through wicked means.
I’m pretty sure Sephiroth slaughtering a village of innocent civilians would fall under any definition of a war crime. Also, while civilians can be charged with war crimes, they have to be in the context of an armed conflict, so Joker, who never attacked the police officers with a weapon, couldn’t be charged with a war crime.
It Twilight Princess, link gets turned into a wolf by Zant, and is then arrested and put in a prison in Hyrule Castle, so Link for sure has been arrested. Also, Zelda travels through time in Skyward Sword, but you could argue she is a different character canonically from the Zelda in smash.
They did not just put Roy as an orphan bro 😭😭 Eliwood is specifically THE ONLY FIRE EMBLEM LORD'S DAD TO SURVIVE (Chrom doesn't count, Lucina's Chrom died and got killed by a possessed Robin).
You missed a lot of answers on some of the more obscure ones: -Agreed with Marss that there should be a lot more arrested characters, like Link, Young Link, Toon Link, Sora, and Samus. -Sora time traveled. (Sephiroth also most likely has as of Remake but it isn't confirmed so that's valid. -Lucas also shouldn't be listed as an orphan, his dad is alive. -A lot more characters have committed war crimes. Samus genocided the Metroids, Ridley genocided the planet Samus was born on, Mythra blew up several titans filled with innocent civilians. Sephiroth assassinated President Shinra which, though technically not a political leader, you could argue he is. (Also burned down a village of innocents, which might qualify too).
@@toumabyakuya Does that make it better? Though I get what you're saying, who's guilty of a war crime? The person who performs it or the people that tell them to do it? Which I'm not sure what the technical definition is.
I could be wrong since I haven't played Bayonetta 2 yet, but she wouldn't be considered an orphan since Balder is alive until the end of Bayonetta 1 and she's an adult by then right? Unless they're going with, "Cereza was there. So in that point in time both parents are dead even though it's not her timeline."
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DK has a kid the question response is wrong btw
These items representing series without fighters, cited to be over 50000 years old according to the Kirby anime series...
This was a fun quiz but wayyyy too much wrong info if you're going to run it again. Like not even minimal research (Zack finding Terry is an orphan mid video) but even consistency within the video - you cited Kirby as being the most powerful character because he can canonically time/space travel at will, but then didn't even include him in the list of time travelers?
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Byleth is an orphan as their mum died during childbirth and their dad dies in the middle of the game
Marss reconsidering looking up “Is terrorism a war crime?” was so funny.
has sephiroth not commited war crimes?
Coming after the fact that he failed his citizenship test this is just the reasoning they need to kick Marss out of the U.S
I think I’ve just given up on Mars’s intelligence after the citizenship test
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Crimes against humanity probably, but not war crimes. He was just doing evil stuff, Cloud was a mercenary so he was more involved in war.
Looked it up. It is.
My favorite part about Mario being on the arrested question is that there's a canon in-game example (Sunshine) and a silly non-canon other media example (he was arrested in a commercial for Mario Party).
I forgot Sunshine. At first I was like, "wait, was Mario arrested in a CD-i game? Or does his kidnapping in Mario is Missing/Luigi's Mansion 1 count?"
He also got thrown in jail in Paper Mario Color Splash
Wasn't he also arrested in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam?
@@LennyTheSniper Yeah but that was by Bowser's troops so that doesn't count. Has to be by actual, non evil law officials
And that one episode of that one old cartoon with the Alcatraz prison
Roy isn’t an orphan. He’s literally the only fire emblem main character to NOT have his dad die. Also Lucas’s dad is still alive.
Lucas true, doesn't Eliwood die in fe6?
@@icedude_907 his body is weak so he can’t help Roy, but he’s very much alive.
Hector, eliwoods friend and one of the other main characters in fire emblem 7, does die.
Yeah, when I was thinking about characters and came across Lucas, I was like "no wait, isn't it just his mom who died. His dad's just depressed."
@@castform7 losing your wife and having one of your two sons go missing would be very rough to go through, but he’s there.
If Roy lost his mother as a child, that would make him a maternal orphan. Meaning he is a type of orphan
Panda: „Kirby has been seen traveling though time and space with pinpoint accuracy“
Also Panda: doesn’t include Kirby in time travelers
Thats what im sayin
He did it in World Of Light, which Sakurai started is something Kirby can do in canon, but canonically Kirby hasn’t done it.
@@gogetablack5384 Kirby is so overpowered that he fixes all problems without having to tap into that kind of power, and people still argue he's not the most powerful character in fiction.
@@CaptainDCap thats because touhou exists. Look up Utsuho Reiuji, Yukari Yakumo, and Flandre Scarlet. Then you'll understand.
@@deathserpent9747 They aren't even close. In fact, it's SO not close, they aren't usually even mentioned in discussions like these. Also, all of those characters have lost fights in the past. How many has Kirby lost? Yeah...none. Main character plot armor ALONE beats all of them.
Marss actually deserves a point for "Which playable character has canonically interacted with a real life celebrity?"
Danica Patrick and Simon Lane both interact with Sonic in _Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed_ - Marss should have technically won this quiz!
Cant believe somebody else knew this!
Mario met lots of celebrities is the old TV show... which I normally wouldn't count, except for the fact that they pulled Meta Knight's age from the anime, so apparently stuff outside video games does count.
@@ultlifeform Probably where their deliberate usage of the word "canonical" comes into play
@@ultlifeform if stuff outside of video games counted then why isn't Sonic the canonically most strongest character because Archie Sonic exist and he's way f****** stronger than Kirby
Well does that game count as cannon? Probably not but a fun fact anyways
Fun fact: Young Link could technically be considered on the list of characters who have children seeing as how the Twilight Princess Link is the descendant of OoT Link which means that the Link of the child timeline had to have a child of his own and since TP Link doesn’t have any royal blood then he’s not related to Zelda in any way so OoT Link likely ended up with Malon.
just about to come say that exact thing
@@ujingamer SAME
the incarnations of Link don't have to be related by blood, the incarnations of Zelda do
Malon is taken?? And dead too so I mean I couldn’t steal her but still she’s taken??
@@moosesues8887 what does that... even mean? Young Link would have been able to get with Malon in the child timeline, which goes towards Twilight Princess.
Lucas isn’t an orphan- his mother is dead, but his father, flint, is seen throughout the game intermittently. He even explains the boss’ relation to Lucas.
A orphan is someone who lost their mother and/or their father. So, technically, Lucas is a orphan, because his mother died. Same with Fox, but it’s his father who died.
7:20 although Joker is the most obvious answer, to add to the list of “arrests” I would like to add Young Link (Gerudo Valley as Marss mentioned) and also Toon Link, who can be captured in the Forsaken Fortress, and put in jail, by militant pigs working for an evil guy… soooo if that doesn’t count as an arrest…
Also Ganondorf himself got arrested and put on trial in Twilight Princess so him too
I would count that as captured rather than arrested, but hey it's kinda in a grey area.
Zelda could also potentially count because the version of Zelda in ssbu is a combination of the Zelda's from A Link to The Past and A Link Between Worlds....who both get arrested/captured by their own military
@@dionysusdescent274 yeah I feel like if you get put in jail by a militant force that’s all that should be needed to count as an “arrest”. There seems to be some hidden criteria like it’s “modern police” or something but it isn’t explained in the vid
Falco Lombardi is also an Ex-Con
I haven't played most Zelda games but based on your wording I'm curious if the Links are unavoidably arrested as part of the story or if the arrest(s) only occur if the player fails a stealth gameplay section? If the latter is the case then I imagine performing the stealth section correctly would be considered the canon version of events rather than including potential player error.
8:15 I like that Little Z is surprised to learn seeing the future and going to the future aren’t the same
5:42 the other acceptable answer is Bowser, as he was rejected from a Nintendo Direct by Doug Bowser himself
Or Sonic with Danica Patrick
Mario is the ref in punchout so he counts too.
Sephiroth and Ariana Grande threw hands
And one of the celebrities at some point interacted with ROB
I don’t think those are cannon.
I’m pretty sure Mythra would be considered for “characters who have committed a war crime” like her and Malos while fighting destroyed several titans with innocent people living on them, whether or not it was intentional is irrelevant, she still did it
@@ZComma correct. But she still sank a continent with people on it, so it is still a war crime. Also, she didn't have a ton of control.
@@ZComma if you feel bad about war crimes they’re still war crimes
Xenoblade 2 hit different
It's a phenomenal game that people love to hate for some reason.
From Wikipedia: Under the law of armed conflict (LOAC), the death of non-combatants is not necessarily a violation; there are many things to take into account. Civilians cannot be made the object of an attack, but the death/injury of civilians while conducting an attack on a military objective are governed under principles such as of proportionality and military necessity and can be permissible. Military necessity "permits the destruction of life of ... persons whose destruction is incidentally unavoidable by the armed conflicts of the war; ... it does not permit the killing of innocent inhabitants for purposes of revenge or the satisfaction of a lust to kill. The destruction of property to be lawful must be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war."
Sora 1000% has time traveled BTW the whole KH3 DLC was about him time traveling
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Plus there was Timeless River.
And dream drop distance lol
Yeah I came here to say this. The whole point of "the power of waking" in KH3 was basically that time travel is bad and has a heavy cost which is why the bad guy has to be stopped so Sora uses the power of waking to stop him and pays a heavy cost. He definitely time travels.
*"Hey, I can travel to different times too, you know."* - Sora, _Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind_
Whoa whoa whoa whoa.
If you count Fox then you have to include nearly every FE lord because they can have children in multiple endings, just like Fox in star fox command.
Fox's child was confirmed canon. That said, the same is true for many of said FE lord children.
It’s true. However, Lucina can only have a child (Morgan) if she marries Male Robin. In the case of Fox, it’s only in *ONE* ending from Star Fox Command. We ignore witch ending is canon, because Fox and friends have a different fate in each of it. Take Krystal as an example: In some endings, she’s with Star Fox, but in others, she’s with Star Wolf instead. Ik, Star Fox Command and it endings are hell!
"I'm pretty sure Rosalina created the big bang"
Well that's something I never thought I'd hear
Lol same. Though technically he’s right since that is what happened at the end of SMG1
But i think she was a normal child living in the earth with her parents
Because its a conspiracy, created by the people who actually like rosalina
@@Manuacs true. Her father wasn’t around, but her mother was vividly depicted (very similar look to Peach). But that’s one thing neither SMG 1 or 2 explains: how is Rosie living for so long. Either she’s part of an alien species they never mentioned and somehow isn’t human, or maybe living in space (or eating Star Bits) for long enough period of time lengthens your life expectancy. No idea
@@carlospolk5033 Time is slowed if you stay near a supermassive object, such as stars and black holes. Thus Rosalina could technically be eons old, but still be only 30.
"Mario got arrested!? What did you do!?"
Super Mario Sunshine: Am I a joke to you?
Exactly what I was thinking
For basically the same reason as Sonic.
@@robmacher3253 Basically, yeah, both framed for crimes by someone called "Shadow"
And the people who arrested them are complete idiots. The Piantas and GUN got a bad rep because of that in the fanbase
For the time travel question, you really need to specify main canon.
Every Pokemon available in Heartgold/Soulsilver technically are a part of the list due to the event in the game, and if not that, then Mystery Dungeon should count. (No matter what though, Pichu has canonically time traveled.)
Every Zelda character should be on the list due to Hyrule Warriors and Calamity.
The one that amazes me that was missed, was Sora. Timeless River in Kingdom Hearts 2, and Dream Drop Distance has a bit of time travel going on.
The only characters in Age of Calamity that time travelled were Terrako and the 4 present era champions (Sidon, Teba, Riju, and Yunobo). Link, Zelda, and Ganon did not.
@@fletch-a-sketch9250 They are talking about the original one too, which was a time hopping thing
@@SteelPokeNinja Breath of the Wild Link wasn't in original Hyrule Warriors and that was also technically a different Zelda. Ganondorf would probably count though, since he's more of an entity.
Also Byleth who's entire gimmick is being able to time travel back a few turns to fix mistakes.
I'm also very sad that the animal crossing villager wasn't there even though it's not exactly canonical lol.
Not even just that. Also time travel in Kingdom Hearts 3.
There are definitely more characters that have committed war crimes, there is no way that nothing Bowser has done is a war crime, and sephiroths victory screen in smash is literally a reference to him burning a civilian village to the ground if I remember correctly, and there are 100% more things that I don't know about/don't remember rn
With Bowser, I’m not sure if he’d be a war criminal or just a terrorist. But if it turns out he actually is in a war against the Mushroom Kingdom and not just overthrowing it, for sure he’s committed war crimes.
If we also count Archie Sonic as part of other Sonic canon, he’s also a war criminal in some major senses.
@@VVheeli someone in /r/fireemblem did a list of all the Fire Emblem Lords to list out their official war crimes and... every single FE lord commits several War Crimes, just, some are much worse than others.
Mythra is definitely up there too
8:11 The spiky eared Pichu, which is one of the available outfits for it, travelled in time by the magics of Celebi; and was kept as the main evidence that time travel exists in the world of pokemon!
And in pokemon super mystery dungeon, the player is a time traveling human and so is the partner. So technically Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Greninja, Pikachu, and Lucario have time traveled
Due to the nature of the questions, Species characters are excluded from the list because they represent an entire species rather than a single character
The pichu alt makes sense in the context of the question though
Also zelda travels through time in skyward sword. Shiek never travels through time, it's always zelda who transforms into shiek
I'm sorry to spoil it, but they're the same person
As far as the War Crime question goes you might as well throw every Fire Emblem character in there for at the very LEAST enlisting children to fight in your straight up war.
killing medics during war is considered a war crime iirc, therefore every fire emblem character has the ability to commit a war crime cause they can kill enemy healers, that would include: all of em
That was my FIRST thought, but it apparently doesn't count for whatever reason.
@@mauroramondo5855 every route map that has a healer would make this happen.
not to mention FE characters actually commit war crimes in war, which is debatably a necessity to count as a war crime. a lot of "war crimes" that characters commit isn't in actual wars.
Roy, especially. Most of his army is on the younger side, and he himself is 15, one year short of the legal limit for enlisting.
You guys need to do more research on some of this stuff because you're seeing a lot of people correcting you. One of the big ones you screwed up was the fact that Sora did, in fact, time travel. It was literally the main thing in Kingdom Hearts 3 Re Mind.
Not just that, in Kingdom Hearts 2, he goes back to the Black and White era of Cartoons, and it's explicitly stated that the Mickey and Pete he interacts with are the ones that will later be King Mickey and the evil Pete, not just a world with very similar people.
@@MunchKING I'm a fan of Kingdom Hearts. I know this.
7:54 Marss was right, surprised the quiz got Pac-Man, but not Sora
“Sora, dinner’s ready”
I'm sure he's done it atleast twice
And Link has time traveled in multiple occasions, but if you are going off just BotW, then I could see why he is not on the list.
Byleth should also count.
@@jacklantz7535 The only playable Link that has time traveled is Young Link. It's fair to say that reincarnations of the same character cannot count, or all Links and Zelda's would immediately qualify.
Byleth has both gone through time via divine pulse, and committed war crimes
Byleth time traveled in their smash trailer, didn't they?
@@usmanniaz1000 they have an ability to turn back time in the game
Weirdly enough, Byleth fits a lot of these criteria
Every Fire Emblem character in smash has committed war crimes
@@BylethsBoba776 I'm pretty sure every single Fire Emblem character has committed war crimes period, regardless of their being in Smash.
How did Byleth not end up as an answer for the time travel question? You literally time travel the very first battle of the game.
Also, every FE character should be on the "war crime" list. The cleanest of them has a huge list of war crimes on his back
@@micheledelloglio5820 Also Kazuya for dropping a satellite on a city of innocent civilians
Byleth and Kazuya are also orphans (or were as of the time of their inclusion)
@@wanderlustwarrior wasn’t Jeralt her father?
@@vanity4865 yeah he *was*. So they're canonically *orphaned* in the game
So Lucas has a father... He isn't an orphan?
i was about to say that
dude's gotta doublecheck lore smh
yeah that's what i was thinking too
My question is how is Terry not on that list
Lucas has a father named flint
he just isn’t in the story much
Ridley being canonically tallest is basically a freebie question. That was the ENTIRE reason why he had such a rocky relation with him getting into Smash.
There was literally a MEME about this
It wasn’t the the whole nor the main reason why sakurai didn’t see him in smash (it was only one of the few reasons, it’s the fans who latched on this specific reason)
@@Zoroark_Master
Cough (Shokio)
What?
@@Zoroark_Master
Shokio is a competitive Smash player who was the person that started the (Ridley is too big) debate, he's also the idiot on RUclips who said that anyone who likes Steve's inclusion in Smash is mentally ill just for a joke of bad taste simply because he thought that "Steve is a cringy annoying character to fight against that doesn't fit Smash who carries players since they don't have to try their best and learn fundamentals"
This is all happened because Shokio is a scrub who used the John of not wanting to learn the Steve/Alex match up...
What war crimes does Joker commit? Because while grand larceny is certainly illegal, I do not remember killing a God being against the Geneva Conventions.
You could argue he was framed for political assassination, which would technically qualify
@@onlysmiles4949 being framed for something and actually committing it are not the same thing though.
I wonder if that broadcast signal intrusion to announce Shido as a wrongdoer counts as a war crime. Even though it was technically Futaba who did it, he is the leader of the group so responsibility lies with him. In fact, since it relates to a political candidate I'm sure that's it.
There is also the fact he was forcing people to have change of hearts against their wills. Yeah he was only doing it to those that are scum, but he was effectively brain washing people
I was thinking the same thing. Also, no FE character
I love how most of the answers arent complete. orphans didnt have byleth, whos dad dies on screen, and arrested characters didnt have ganondorf, a guy who got executed on screen after his imprisoniment
Also bomberman and galaga have items from their series but aren't playable
@@Shmicah1235 bomberman has a mii costume and galaga ship is in pac mans bonus fruit so it's a grey area
For the orphans, Roy is incorrect since his father, Eliwood is very much alive
Actually, according to Websters 1828, an orphan is a CHILD who is bereaved of parents. Assuming Byleth is an adult, they aren't considered orphans.
Edit: Correction, apparently you are still considered an orphan if only one parent is dead, and since Byleth's mother died in child birth, they are considered an orphan
@@redpandaplush5980 I do not consider either of those examples to constitute as playable characters
Very funny that the quiz put Roy in the Orphans category, considering he's the only Fire Emblem protagonist in the series to not be an orphan. Eliwood does survive the story of Fire Emblem 6.
Lucas isn't an orphan. His dad is distant, but he's alive and technically there.
Spoiler
He dies at the final battle
@@nicoxzx No, being as vague as possible about the finale, I'm pretty sure I remember him participating in the aftermath.
Fun Fact: By definition you only need to lose one parent to be called an orphan.
@@fr0stdr4ke95 Truly the funnest fact I've heard all day
Lucina is an Orphan canonically, since we play as the Lucina that time travelled into the actual Awakening story. Her parents (or at least the Chrom of her timeline) was killed.
they forget byleth aswell, which is weird because thats just straight up
@@hunbi1875 and they included Roy, even though during FE6 Eliwood his dad is still alive, albeit sickly and probably not too far off his death bed. But still alive.
The orphan question was honestly missing a good amount of people, Ryu and Kazuya for example. Ryu was an orphan that got adopted but then his adoptive father was “killed” and Heihachi recently died leaving Kazuya fatherless 😔
@@hunbi1875 Byleth's father didn't die until he was an adult
Toon Link is also an orphan since he lives with his grandma
5:42
Actually, Little Mac's fight with Tyson was a dream, so they didn't interact. Hence the title of the "Dream Fight" and the Mr.Dream replacement.
I'd like to argue that Bowser Jr. has committed war crimes, as in sunshine he not only created monsters (Which could have possibly destroyed Delfino Plaza, making it destruction of a town), but made Peach sit on a small duck in a pool of acid that would kill her if she fell in (Inhumane treatment) .
Forgotten Time Travelers: Byleth. It's part of the reason that they're so canonically powerful. It's not as expensive as the others, but they can rewind multiple times at will.
@@Zoroark_Master That's Chrom
On the children question, there are two characters missing. Robin has a child named Morgan, and Corrin has a child named Kana
The rationale I usually see for excluding them is that whether or not they show up is down to player choice, since you only get them if Robin or Corrin get married, but their children still exist in dlc either way, so I'd say they count
@@grey-c8138 If that's the case they don't time travel either, since they only do it in the DLC. Lucina is the time traveler.
Robin can technically choose to be a virgin if you never reach S-support with anyone. whereas Chrom is forced to pair up with the female character with the highest support level because Lucina is an integral character to the game's plot. I still think Robin should've been included anyway, because like 99% of players are going to reach S-support with someone unless they deliberately go out of their way not to.
@@FreelanceGenie The future past DLC is canon tho
@@grey-c8138 Then so are all the kids from the future. You cannot both exclude the likes of Robin and Corrin from the child question and also include both Chrom and Robin for the time traveler one.
A few charactera missing from the "arrested" question. Ganondorf being arrested to be executed in Twilight Princess and Pyra being taken into custody by Tantal to be destroyed
Twilight Princess Ganondorf isn't the Ganondorf in Smash Ultimate. Pyra is legally not a person, and was confiscated, not arrested...I guess?
Fox was also arrested in Star Fox Adventures.
@@CaptainDCap Ultimate's Ganon is the Ocarina Ganon, which, fun fact, is the same person as Twilight Princess Ganon. so, yeah, he should've been included for the "arrested" question.
@@climbhazzrd4313 Why on earth would you even give the exact same answer six minutes apart?
Fun fact: That's not how chronological continuity works.
"Hey Ganondorf! It's me, you from the future! Yeah, I've been arrested. You have a criminal record, now."
No.
They forgot that Ganondorf was arrested thanks to Young Link going back in time to prevent him from doing anything, and he was imprisoned in the Twilight Realm, so yeah he was arrested.
Ummm. Panda crew? You guys have missed at least one character who time traveled. Sora went back in time to the Timeless River World in Kingdom Hearts 2. I still think this quiz was a great idea though.
It's literally one of his skins (my personal favorite to use) I'm surprised they overlooked that
They also missed Byleth since she goes back in time with Sothis to stop herself from getting killed in the first few minutes of the game.
Sora also time travels in the kh 3 dlc
Sora's also involved in time travel in Dream Drop Distance (with Yen Sid's assistance to begin his Mark of Mastery exam), and twice in KH3 (the first time to undo the damages caused by Terra-Xehanort and the Demon Storm, and the second time to put Kairi back together in Re:Mind).
Also for the canonic children, technically Robin and Corrin should be on that list too.
You can choose to not get them in the game, but canonically they exist.
Today i learned from marss that shulk took the rick flair words to heart: To be the man, You gotta beat the man!
8:54
Out of Curiosity, did Pythra not commit a war crime? I’d think that sinking an entire nation would be considered a war crime.
For the items question, wouldn’t Galaga also work?
Byleth disguises his army in Verdent Wind and Silver Snow as Empire Soldiers which is apparently a war crime
I love that Marss went through the logic of Shulk being a gigagod, but also knew he was going to be wrong and it was going to be Kirby
0:14 says one of the persons that didn't know what sarasaland is
Dang you won't let that go lol
This is a pretty cool video idea and all.
But can you please tell your cutter, that they should put the reveal to the answers a little bit longer on the screen?
Who can read/look at pictures this fast? I certainly can't.
trying to look at the answer which vanishes in a split second, then havong to rewind the video to that exact split second and pause it, repeating this process for every single answer, is such a pain on mobile phone.
I watched on a smart tv and literally had trouble realizing the answer was on screen, grabbing the remote, and pausing in time. It's waaaaaaay too fast.
Pretty sure that Lucas isn’t an orphan he’s still got a dad
Nope, he dies early on in the story.
@@toumabyakuya No he doesn't, he's still alive at the end of the game
@@NerdStrikesBack If I bad don't remember, both him and Haniwa speak to their children from beyond the grave in the Final Boss fight.
@@toumabyakuya That is just a memory that Hinawa gives for both Lucas and Claus. At the end of the final battle you can see Flint in front of Lucas
@@toumabyakuya Just Hinawa. I understand it's just bad memory on your end but you could at least double check before you try to confidently say someone else is wrong :/
This was a fun quiz idea. I would like to see more of these.
Super fun idea but executed kinda poorly imo there was wrong/bad answers for like every single question, idk who wrote this lmao
I've got two problems
1. Many characters on the orphan section, such as Lucas, aren't orphans, as they have at least one parent alive.
2. Literally every single Fire Emblem lord has committed at the very least one War Crime: Child Soldiers.
The fact sephiroth wasn't counted as a war criminal boggles my mind. The dude literally slaughtered a village.
Steve should be on there too. He's murdered animals and burned down villages
I knew watching the Kirby anime wold come in handy at some point. Meta Knight being 50,000 wouldn't even be in top 10 of the weirdest thing I've heard about this franchise if I didn't already know it.
3:07 wow I didn't know steel diver was in the Kirby anime
The time travel question was just wrong. Sheik did not time travel in Ocarina of Time. Zelda, however, did time travel in Skyward Sword. They got that straight backwards.
Well tbf this is a different Zelda and if you want to count every Zelda incarnation then you also have to count Sheik. So it's either both or neither depending on interpretation. I say neither.
If you guys do this quiz again, it might be worth swapping "canon" for "in a main series title". Makes confusing situations less common. Like Little Mac meeting Mike Tyson probably isn't considered canon in Punch-Out lore by Nintendo since Mr. Dream replaced him, or Sonic and Mario having met NBA players or the Yogscast. (Weird moments in game history..) Doesn't make the video any less fun to watch, though, just maybe a little frustrating for anyone playing.
Yeah, especially with sonic. Cause with Sonic 'everything is canon'
Really like to know what constitutes as an orphan and what doesn't by this quiz's standards. I felt like Snake and Kazuya would qualify for some combination of having been given up by their parents and/or the parents both dying eventually, but neither of them were counted despite Lucas and Bayonetta counting, and their fathers were still alive and present for much of their stories.
Snake counts. He is basically a super soldier created by the government that was genetically modified in the womb of a human and then taken away. Kazuya could count depending on when his parents died, an orphan is a child who lost their parents after all.
@@DharshM0 Kazuya was 5 years old when his father killed his mother, and then threw Kazuya himself off a cliff and left him for dead. Even though he survived, he was completely on his own past that point and spent the next 40 years just preparing to kill the old man.
Sora has definitely time traveled. He even retorts to the bad guy, who was shocked by this revelation, "What? Did you think you were the only one who could time travel?" or something along those lines
Panda needs to watch Brian David Gilbert's explanation on how Mario is DEFINITELY a war criminal according to the Geneva Convention
Byleth definitely commits several war crimes. Enlisting child soldiers, chemical warfare, honestly a lot.
That "canoncically powerful" question should have been more lenient based on the players' justifications, since it's such an open-ended question and stuff like canonical power is always open to interpretation.
I agree with you, it's super complicated and subjective
kirby is the most powerful being in Nintendo.
Sakurai created Kirby and Smash, thus Kirby is canonically the strongest.
GG EZclap
Of all 89, only Kirby has been stated to have infinite power within him (at his base state, even).
Nah, better stick with the facts, than let some edgy weebs have an inch of say over anything. Sorry people, but Sephiroth is not that strong, and is barely a planet buster at most.
Shouldn't Rosalina be on the time travel list? Since the Star Festival occurs every century, and Mario has celebrated at least two, there has to be some time manipulation going on there. She even mentions something about a cycle of rebirth at the end of the game.
Adding onto a lot of the comments about the answers, Robin should be an acceptable answer for canonical parents, all of the child units in Awakening are definitely intended to be canon considering several of them go on to exist in Fates. Also from awakening, Lucina should be an answer for orphans for obvious reasons.
Shouldn’t Vikki have gotten the point for Robin since Robin’s child is Morgan?
Tbr, Morgan is optional, so, technically Robin is able to be childless the rest of theirs life
Yes, the mobile game establishes all FE possibilities as canon due to multiverse shenanigans, including bad endings.
If Fox gets a point for having a kid in one of Command's nine alternate endings, I think we can give Robin a pass for Morgan
Wait didn’t Sonic have kids in the comics
@@PerfectDarkly I agree.
8:53 I would like to bring to your attention the final arc of the Silver Snow route of Fire Emblem Three Houses, where Byleth uses the uniforms of captured enemy troops to wear and then sneak into the enemy base to strike at them from within. This is in direct violation of Article 39 of the 1977 Protocol 1 Amendment of the Geneva Convention, point 2 which reads "It is prohibited to make use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or in order to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations."
Byleth Commits War Crimes. And if they don't, they travel back in time to do it.
Basically every FE character ever has committed war crimes lol
Let’s go Zack correctly guessing Terry was an orphan
-both of them Were ORPHAN CHILDS! I KNEW MORE THAN THE LORE QUIZ!!
Little Z
9:21 mars really went "if i could play devils advocate for a moment" mode
*Marss
I like how all of them focused on Mario getting arrested and none of them questioned Sonic getting arrested. Like, what's a 15 year old doing in jail.
"does mario give birth to baby mario...?"
*IM SORRY, W H A T*
Zach 100% got Terry as a orphan because of the joke from everyone is OP 2
Isn't Lucas' father still alive? Can that really be considered being an orphan?
Yeah, alot of those picks I wouldn't consider. Either they still have a parent alive, like Lucas or Roy, or their remaining parent dies in their game, but they're well into adulthood at the time, like Bayonetta. (I know you can be an adult orphan, but then you could define that to anybody eventually. The context implies, "grew up an orphan".) There's still enough to answer the quiz though.
That is what I was pondering. Flint (Lucas' father) was still alive but he literally spent the rest of the game trying to look for Claus (taking place in over a 3/4 year time skip). He didn't even care for Lucas at the time. It's a technicality but since Flint wasn't caring for Lucas that entire time, Lucas technically is indeed an orphan.
@@zeospark9715 Didn't Flint die near the end, though? I mean, I do remember that both him and Haniwa speak to both Lucas and Claus from the Other World during the Final Boss fight.
@@toumabyakuya No, Flint was alive at the end. He was there in the flesh.
@@RaffoPhantom You sure? Okay. I could swear he was dead at the time.
Robin, Corrin, Olimar, both Aegis, Solo, Erdrick, and technically Snake are also parents. The Luminary is a little complicated but he could be argued to be.
"Being a Smash pro can only take you so far..."
--- Me, I guess
Also they messed up a ton. The Zack guessing Terry right moment proves this. Byleth and Sora were not included in the time travel section, either? Bruh moment.
And no FE character on the war crime section. FE is basically war crime simulator ffs
@@micheledelloglio5820 Ikr?
@@micheledelloglio5820 Lets just say war crimes dont exist in FE lol. People waged war all the time. Law and Order wasnt a thing yet. Even if law existed whether by Church (like the Begnion in Radiant Dawn), all of them were corrupted for reviving [blank] in the games
@@corrinfevincenohr Yeah, well Cloud exists in a fantasy world where the Geneva Convention doesn't exist, but was still listed as an answer. If something's a war crime in our world and they did it, then they should've been listed.
@@alexshafer7374 In Midgar, everything is legal. Fighting mechs in Mako Reactor No.X? You may get chased but if you run enough to 7th Haven or Honeybee Inn, you can never get captured for your warcrimes cuz they are fooking NPCs.
Shinra: What the heck is a war crime? lol
Kirby isn’t the canonically strongest Smash character but no one’s ready for that conversation
SO TRUE
lemme name people who slam kribo.
mario
sonic
bayo
seth
sora
banjo, why? because he is banjo
Absolutely
honestly
Sephiroth isn't as strong as a supernova. But no one is ready for that conversation clearly.
No one remembered Sonic Adventure 2 literally started with Sonic being arrested. City escape starts with him breaking out the police chopper. And then Metal Harbor is him after he got broken out. Lol
In a chapter of three houses, byleth uses the uniform of an opposing army to gain an advantage in combat, which is considered a war crime.
Wait a minute, Sora does time trivel! Marss was right!
1:08 Aegis should be on there she has a child in Xenoblade 3 ending.
For “which characters have had kid” Snake has canonically adopted a child in MGS4 with his friend Otacon
To be fair at 6:50 terry bogard was an orphan, adopted, then orphaned again after geese killed his adopted dad so he's double oprhan
Also timetravelers is missing sora he time travels at the end of kh3 to save his friends from being consumed by the darkness tornado or whatever
When did Sheik time travel? Is this considering Hyrule Warriors? Because if so, then shouldn’t all the Zelda characters be on there?
Maybe they mixed them up with Impa in Skyward sword but if that was the case I would expect Zelda on here as that incarnation time travles too.
Lucas isn’t an orphan. His dad, Flint, is a playable character in the beginning of the game, and he shows up throughout the rest of the game as a non-playable character.
Before you ask me why Fox’s father is named James and his son, Marcus, remember: If Fox’s second in command was in couple with a female cat, everything is possible in the Lylat system!
Terry isn't just an orphan he's a double orphan, because his real parents aren't around (we don't know the details) and his adopted father died, but so is BOTW Link (the calamity and 100 years will do that) and also arguably Ryu.
Arguably botw Zelda too (if she had a botw form) idk how old she is in game so if she was a minor she would count if this reincarnation was in smash
@@TerrariaLuvr She's the same age as link. He mom was already dead prior to the calamity and her dad died during the calamity on her 17th birthday. So she would count but obviously she isn't in this game so it doesn't matter
At the Kirby part, it says he can warp through time, but then at the time travel question Kirby is not listed as an answer.
Because he can, but hasn't done it.
samus was the only character i knew for sure was an orphan so i guessed samus, rosalina, cloud, and terry so zack finding out he knew better than the quiz was a HUGE relief
1) Oldest Smash character lore-wise? I know Bayonetta's hundreds of years old, but Kirby's probably got a greater lifespan (though might be called an "unknown" depending on if he had a number ever described) plus Meta Knight too. [Meta Knight at 50,000 according to the anime. This feels like it could be whoever you wanna count though.]
2) Let's see if I can remember that "Smash characters who smashed" video... Chrom's daughter is Lucina, Fox potentially has Marcus... Olimar is a father, Bowser has Bowser Jr and Koopalings, and Fire Emblem I think had a few different marriage and child options. [Forgot Kazuya has a son, and Pac-Man. Of course Simon and Richter have children, it's a bloodline of Belmont. And yeah, Rosalina's (adoptive) children are the Lumas. Interesting they considered Pokemon; they can breed, but these ones haven't necessarily bred.]
3) Steel Diver, Galaga (I'd argue Pac-Man gives all arcade Namco representation though)... I think Killing Edge was from something but I don't know the name. [Motion Sensor from GoldenEye I suppose, I remembered Panel de Pon had an item when Marss said it.]
4) Canonically most powerful, I think it was agreed to be Kirby who's fighting world killing gods on a daily basis. Sephiroth and Bayonetta best contenders.
5) Ridley's canonically the largest character, come on. Bowser enjoys being huge now and then, but on average Ridley, had the whole meme. [How only Little Z got that, I have no idea.]
6) ROB is real, literally (introduced as) a toy. [Miis, you two? A Mii is an avatar, you are not a Mii.]
7) Little Mac interacted with Mike Tyson in the first game, though he later got replaced by Mr Dream. Unsure if there was anyone else.
8) Largest game map... Minecraft, right? It's a single map that loads in chunks, only maybe rivaled by Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade (haven't touched any of Chronicles so unsure what the size is like there). You can go straight very far in Minecraft though, in any direction.
9) Let's see, orphans... Lucas's parents died to a dinosaur I think, Ridley killed Samus's parents, Fox lost his father, can't remember if Balder was Bayonetta's father, think he died anyhow? [I didn't consider Zelda or Fire Emblem. Bayo is on that list though, so yay me.]
10) Any Mario Sunshine speedrunner knows Mario was arrested. Link could be arrested in OoT, Snake plausibly (never played the game), Joker was a prisoner of fate or whatever...
11) Mario & Luigi (Partners In Time), Bowser and Peach are in there too, Young Link (Ocarina of Time), Bayonetta visited the past in the 2nd game, and that's the ones off my head. [Right, Lucina's whole deal was she changed her destiny. Ness also did time travel to fight Giygas I think, but as a robot since his body couldn't make the trip.]
12) I don't know anything about war crimes. Snake and Wolf possibly, other villains, but I'm out. [So Snake does do things of course, he's basically in wars so he's doing things. I can't say much about Joker or Cloud though, I'll have to look into it.]
I don't know all the specifics of committing war crimes, but I feel like Kazuya dropping a satellite on a city full of civilians might constitute his inclusion on the list.
Corrin should've been one of the answers for which characters have children, as they can have a child during the events of fates
Who are the orphans in Smash?
Proceeds to show half of the Fire Emblem roster
Ooh, got one you missed! Boss Galaga is an item, but there aren't any playable characters from Galaga.
Featureless 8-bit spaceship for Smash 6
3:05 Crazy that the motion sensor bomb and lip's stick are cited to be 50,000 years old in the Kirby Anime series.
The more you know!
Marss explaining Metal Gear Solid lore:
The closest thing I can assume to be a war crime committed by Joker is how towards the end of P5 the Phantom Thieves hijack every piece of technology in Tokyo, overriding security protocols from every angle to broadcast a public call-out to one of the villians. Whether or not this counts as a war crime, you have to hand it to a band of teenagers with metaverse powers being able to change society for the better through wicked means.
Sae mentions that you get charged with it being an act of terrorism on X-Mas, so I guess that's their logic
I’m pretty sure Sephiroth slaughtering a village of innocent civilians would fall under any definition of a war crime. Also, while civilians can be charged with war crimes, they have to be in the context of an armed conflict, so Joker, who never attacked the police officers with a weapon, couldn’t be charged with a war crime.
Yoshi was left out of the parents answers. Yoshi adopted baby mario.
and DK
yoshi did not adopt mario, yoshi brought mario back to his actual parents, that's the whole plot of the game
3:05 they forgot to remove the meta knight script
It Twilight Princess, link gets turned into a wolf by Zant, and is then arrested and put in a prison in Hyrule Castle, so Link for sure has been arrested. Also, Zelda travels through time in Skyward Sword, but you could argue she is a different character canonically from the Zelda in smash.
They did not just put Roy as an orphan bro 😭😭
Eliwood is specifically THE ONLY FIRE EMBLEM LORD'S DAD TO SURVIVE (Chrom doesn't count, Lucina's Chrom died and got killed by a possessed Robin).
You guys should do a quiz where you have to identify the franchise of an ingame spirit just by its image!
You missed a lot of answers on some of the more obscure ones:
-Agreed with Marss that there should be a lot more arrested characters, like Link, Young Link, Toon Link, Sora, and Samus.
-Sora time traveled. (Sephiroth also most likely has as of Remake but it isn't confirmed so that's valid.
-Lucas also shouldn't be listed as an orphan, his dad is alive.
-A lot more characters have committed war crimes. Samus genocided the Metroids, Ridley genocided the planet Samus was born on, Mythra blew up several titans filled with innocent civilians. Sephiroth assassinated President Shinra which, though technically not a political leader, you could argue he is. (Also burned down a village of innocents, which might qualify too).
*"Samus genocided the Metroids,"*
Something that her superiors (the goverment) imposse on her as a mission.
@@toumabyakuya Does that make it better? Though I get what you're saying, who's guilty of a war crime? The person who performs it or the people that tell them to do it? Which I'm not sure what the technical definition is.
@@NerdStrikesBack Unless you are saying that the entire Federation is also guilty, then she cannot be because her goverment told her to do so.
Wait, who arrested Sor - ohhh right, Commander Sark.
@@MrAuthor3DS yep, you got it!
I could be wrong since I haven't played Bayonetta 2 yet, but she wouldn't be considered an orphan since Balder is alive until the end of Bayonetta 1 and she's an adult by then right? Unless they're going with, "Cereza was there. So in that point in time both parents are dead even though it's not her timeline."
5:16 Mario plays basketball with Shaq in one of the games