It was never a matter of "IF" only "when". Everything can go wrong at any time. It speaks to the engineers and workers that it took this long for an issue to come up. A minor hiccup that will happen to every company.
Well let's hope it is minor. Look at Rocket Lab's second stage failure after 30 flights. The arcing of a power supply unit that took them weeks to find the reason and it could only happen in space. They had to make a test instrument that had never been built before. (Mind you, they are the only Rocket Company that uses batteries to drive the turbine pumps) but nonetheless, it highlighted an issue where on Earth you might get a high voltage arc of a millimeter, but in space it can arc 100X that. But I do hope it's a process issue (human error) than say a pressure tank with metal construction failure. Delaying a launch company that does 95% of the commercial launch's, is kinda like shutting off the power grid to Industrial Plants. 🤞🏼
@@ellieinspace I don't see any reason why Star Ship could not be repurposed to build habitats, space stations and in say 15 years time when engines are at the peak of efficiency and being phased out and slowly being replace ION engines that it could be used the build(bring to life) the 1 gen of the fictional USS Enterprise, Star Ship rings connected side by side equals 1 deck... Saucer section 15 rings wide 9m x 15 = 135 feet wide -- 9m x 25 = 225 feet long 6 rings tall with inner/outer hulls any voids filled with Kevlar/Carbon Fibre & Perlite to protect from the cold.... with docking ports for Dragon on its under side...
I appreciate how you cover relevant information and not just the quickest; which ironically can lead to faster understanding of the whole picture! Keep going!
Well, I think your 15-minute interview with Elon Musk was excellent. Very well spent, Ellie. You are a great professional and a great fit to be a Space reporter because you embody the place, the climate, and know everything, and you easily convey all the information we need. Congratulations. If I could vote for an official reporter for external reports for this company, you would be my choice. Thank you, I loved it. 👏👏👏💝🌿🌹🌿🌟💥🚀☺From Brasil.
Great video! I heard biys and pieces through the day but this is my first chance to get a comprehensive picture of the whole event and possible implications
Ellie (& Joe) this was a most excellent live stream. You guys are definitely finding your groove. I found it one of the most enjoyable watches to date. Ellie you are so much more at ease at talking about all things space related. Your synergy is now excellent. It bodes really well for your future. Keep up the good work❗
I think Butch & Suni are secretly thrilled to spend even more time in the ISS. Those two are seasoned veretans of space flight, couldn't wish for a more capable crew up there. Edit : Suni's hair is magnificent in zero G !!
Looks like my comment from my other channel was auto filtered out for length. I was talking about how I think we're underestimating the difficulty of solving this diagnostics problem because of how different the F9 program is compared to what we're used to, the Starship program. Also because of the human rating issue. Diagnostics on an experimental prototype are way easier than on an operational human-rated vehicle. On Starship you're allowed to diagnose incorrectly. In Falcon, you're not allowed to diagnose incorrectly. You're not allowed to EVER have that engine blow up with humans on board, EVER.
Good coverage, and congrats on the 100k!+ I'm glad Elon saw fit to give you that 15 minutes of his time. You've worked really hard and definitely deserved the boost you got from that interview.
Well, this comes right on the heels of people snarking about how perfect Falcon 9 was following the Ariane 6 2nd stage 3rd restart and deorbit burn, and how Dragon was going to come up and get the stranded Starliner astronauts on ISS. It's very possible that Butch and Sunni could wind up staying longer to help Tracy Dyson if Crew-8 has to leave. Let this be a lesson when you get complacent and arrogant to others.
Space News “The company did not elaborate on the nature of the anomaly during the planned one-second relight of the engine. Musk had stated that the engine suffered a “RUD” or “rapid unscheduled disassembly,” but SpaceX noted in its statement that “the stage survived and still deployed the satellites.” The stage also was able to “passivate itself,” a standard procedure at the end of its mission, removing energy sources from propellant tanks and batteries that could cause the stage to break up.”
Success always generates complacency. The better we are in any arena, the less attention we pay to the details that brought us to the plateau of success. That's when we assume nothing can go wrong any more. Then something - Great or Minor - does go wrong. A human at SpaceX overlooked something obvious and BOOM. It was destiny - as sucess ALWAYS generates complacency.
Wouldn't be supprised if it's a material failure of a 3D metal printed part, as this is still a fledgling technology. I have trust in SpaceX getting to the root of the problem and sorting it out. Great reporting Ellie.
This is actually a good thing. It's is a very rare problem for this rocket and now they are able to fix it making for a much better and safer system. This will get resolved very quickly.
@@battlebornsupermoto954 those 2 astronauts will be hoping it gets resolved quickly as in the back of their mind they might have been thinking that they can always get a ride on a Dragon.
Now SpaceX will start getting those freaking annoying Extended Waranty spam phone calls. ( But seriously. these craft will continue get better and better.)
I’d be checking SpaceX Vandenberg for Ex Boeing Engineers in demolition … it only takes one of the lines in the Rocket engine to be weakened and a fault like this can occur. I wouldn’t put Boeing beyond a little industrial Sabotage with the troubles and inquiries that they are going through. I don’t see any risk for Polaris Dawn as they won’t be launching from Vandeberg where I Suspect the biggest risk lies …
Two of my favorite people, love you both, keep up the great work! Is it possible that the rocket was hit by a micro meteorite, or a piece of space junk that could have caused the leak?
Thought i saw something covering the camera on the booster. Could be a pipe pulled during stage separation. Apologies if i missed someone mentioning this.
With enough launches of the same thing, theres bound to be an eventual failure somewhere along the road. I dont think this will hinder SpaceX in any capacity once they isolate the issue.
We were so used to get these launches into a success, that it's very odd to see some problems. Not to be repeated, please. But in technology, anything can go wrong. I know everything about it.
"routine is a bitch" some say I'm pretty sure they will investigate very quickly launching starlinks is VERY good test bed for such cases in human/astronauts-safe environment
Re: Starliner astronauts allegiance to Boeing…I think they are more aligned with NASA’s commitment to have two viable space programs. They want competing and redundant programs to support their missions.
Unrelated to the current subject. Just watched the "I'm getting fat" episode. (Not all of it though). I had a friend that was fit (Stunningly so) until she started using the pill. From then on she only got bigger. ): Me, I cut sugars and wheat products and that helps me maintain a great BMI. (My Dr. words).
With Crew 9 scheduled for August, I would not be surprised NASA becomes part of the process since they will not fly their crew unless they know the root cause has been identified and a resolution implemented to their satisfaction.
I don't watch falcon launches anymore cause is so mundane. It's exactly like the last one. I'm shocked something happened on a nonreusable stage. Weird. Still wouldn't of lead to a catastrophic failure for dragon missions.
The twitter live views might be anyone who ever clicked and watched a while? Like YT count is now 19k. I think YT has some time threshold like 40s or something before a viewer counts as a view. Maybe you get the statistics of viewer retention and watch time?
Last time they lost all their Starlink's, it was because they did not get or missed the information about a Solar Flare around launch time. This caused the Earth's atmosphere to expand and the Starlink ?Xenon? thrusters could not overcome the extra drag. Expect to see, in the news, similar pictures of a row of lights burning up in the atmosphere. Hope SpaceX had some insurance cover.
Should we not maybe add an extra fuel load to satellites just in case they don't reach full insertion and maybe allow them to last a bit longer in orbit otherwise
gotta love how the Austin news station kvue showed starship footage and photos while talking about a falcon 9. Correct info on the teleprompter, incorrect stock footage playing. Shouldn't both have to be accurate while broadcasting on the 6pm news?
Dafuq is he talking about, being surprised that it was foggy at Vandenberg? Hey, tell us you don’t actually WATCH launches from Vandenberg without actually telling us you DON’T typically watch launches from Vandenberg. 🤦🏽♀️🤦♂️🙈
This is the equivalent of a jet blowing a tire on landing and the FAA grounding all planes because it was a mission 'issue". Things MUST change if we're going to succeed off space.
Space News “The company did not elaborate on the nature of the anomaly during the planned one-second relight of the engine. Musk had stated that the engine suffered a “RUD” or “rapid unscheduled disassembly,” but SpaceX noted in its statement that “the stage survived and still deployed the satellites.” The stage also was able to “passivate itself,” a standard procedure at the end of its mission, removing energy sources from propellant tanks and batteries that could cause the stage to break up.”
Only Falcons 9 is grounded, as per standard practice. SpaceX is preparing the report for the FAA, as they work out the facts of the anomaly and submit the findings to the FAA… Humans fly on the Falcon 9.🚀
@@RoBear-xo6zw yes I know that. I've been watching all the spacex podcasts. They had a liquid oxygen leak on the second stage engine, it was too low in orbit for starlink satellites. I thought second stage was shut down and let it burn up in the atmosphere. Booster made it back for the 19th time. Hell yeah on that. I was just pointing out how the person on the radio said it. All good.
SpaceX will bound back quickly. They have a proven flight record. I would get on the Return to Flight of a Falcon before you would get me anywhere near a Boeing product.
I don’t see what the issue is. The Dragon has its own escape system should the second stage do anything wrong. The carry rate of this rockets both 1ST and 2nd stages has been 100% until now and fail to see the point of even putting launches under duress. It does not effect Polaris nor the 5th launch. & as stated their launch cadence is far higher than everyone. Face it the engine kept doing its thing and it merely looks like a lot more fuel is being ejected,to freeze over in that manner Frankly I believe that would never happen again and that it would take another flight to prove it. I don’t see that there’s a reason to Ground.
Yes clearly leaking fuel freezing, which is why it couldn't make the targeted orbital height. The question is why. A design defect? A manufacturing fault? Boeing Agent 00747 armed with a drill?
No makes perfect sense. You see how well starliner is doing? This is a critical piece of USA hardware. This is the best kind of failure. Being unmanned and spacex payload.
It was never a matter of "IF" only "when". Everything can go wrong at any time. It speaks to the engineers and workers that it took this long for an issue to come up. A minor hiccup that will happen to every company.
Well let's hope it is minor. Look at Rocket Lab's second stage failure after 30 flights. The arcing of a power supply unit that took them weeks to find the reason and it could only happen in space. They had to make a test instrument that had never been built before. (Mind you, they are the only Rocket Company that uses batteries to drive the turbine pumps) but nonetheless, it highlighted an issue where on Earth you might get a high voltage arc of a millimeter, but in space it can arc 100X that.
But I do hope it's a process issue (human error) than say a pressure tank with metal construction failure. Delaying a launch company that does 95% of the commercial launch's, is kinda like shutting off the power grid to Industrial Plants. 🤞🏼
That's what I've been saying about Boeing.
Thanks for the livestream recap of a tumultuous week in spaceflight, always appreciate your coverage Ellie.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for always showing up!!! You are a huge supporter!!!!
Thanks for the stream Ellie, keep up the great work
Thank you so much for watching!!!🎉
@@ellieinspace I don't see any reason why Star Ship could not be repurposed to build habitats, space stations and in say 15 years time when engines are at the peak of efficiency and being phased out and slowly being replace ION engines that it could be used the build(bring to life) the 1 gen of the fictional USS Enterprise, Star Ship rings connected side by side equals 1 deck...
Saucer section 15 rings wide 9m x 15 = 135 feet wide -- 9m x 25 = 225 feet long 6 rings tall with inner/outer hulls any voids filled with Kevlar/Carbon Fibre & Perlite to protect from the cold.... with docking ports for Dragon on its under side...
I appreciate how you cover relevant information and not just the quickest; which ironically can lead to faster understanding of the whole picture! Keep going!
Well, I think your 15-minute interview with Elon Musk was excellent. Very well spent, Ellie. You are a great professional and a great fit to be a Space reporter because you embody the place, the climate, and know everything, and you easily convey all the information we need. Congratulations. If I could vote for an official reporter for external reports for this company, you would be my choice. Thank you, I loved it. 👏👏👏💝🌿🌹🌿🌟💥🚀☺From Brasil.
Great conversation, even handed and informative. Looking forward to the next one. Thanks!
Loving the hat. Had one years ago that said
"Made you look again" lol
SPACEX is doing amazing things for space. Thanks for covering all of this.
Hopefully they'll figure out what caused the O2 leak. Potentially even a micrometeorite could have punctured the tank.
hmm that would be bonkers and no unheard given how many flight they did go trough. So it could happen.
Great video! I heard biys and pieces through the day but this is my first chance to get a comprehensive picture of the whole event and possible implications
Joe is a valuable SME - subject-matter expert! It’s a great dynamic between you , a cute buxom journalist and Joe’s insights ! Great episode!
Thanks! You two are GREAT!🙂
Why?
GREAT interview Ellie and Joe, THANKS!
Ellie (& Joe) this was a most excellent live stream. You guys are definitely finding your groove. I found it one of the most enjoyable watches to date. Ellie you are so much more at ease at talking about all things space related. Your synergy is now excellent. It bodes really well for your future. Keep up the good work❗
Always a good time getting to listen to all your guests and amazing coverage
I agree that it’s good for Space X to step back and take a break. I really enjoyed this chat.
I think Butch & Suni are secretly thrilled to spend even more time in the ISS. Those two are seasoned veretans of space flight, couldn't wish for a more capable crew up there.
Edit : Suni's hair is magnificent in zero G !!
Awesome content keep up the hard work
Elon weeks ago: we're going to lower the starlink satellites' orbital altitude to get lower latency
Elon today: NOT THAT LOW
Looks like my comment from my other channel was auto filtered out for length. I was talking about how I think we're underestimating the difficulty of solving this diagnostics problem because of how different the F9 program is compared to what we're used to, the Starship program. Also because of the human rating issue. Diagnostics on an experimental prototype are way easier than on an operational human-rated vehicle. On Starship you're allowed to diagnose incorrectly. In Falcon, you're not allowed to diagnose incorrectly. You're not allowed to EVER have that engine blow up with humans on board, EVER.
Good coverage, and congrats on the 100k!+ I'm glad Elon saw fit to give you that 15 minutes of his time. You've worked really hard and definitely deserved the boost you got from that interview.
Aww
Thank you so much
I truly have poured everything into this! 🥹
Well, this comes right on the heels of people snarking about how perfect Falcon 9 was following the Ariane 6 2nd stage 3rd restart and deorbit burn, and how Dragon was going to come up and get the stranded Starliner astronauts on ISS. It's very possible that Butch and Sunni could wind up staying longer to help Tracy Dyson if Crew-8 has to leave.
Let this be a lesson when you get complacent and arrogant to others.
You very much for all that information, very useful altogether, have a great weekend, to you both. Ever onward, M
Interesting chat about space journalism and Starliner. Thanks
Space News
“The company did not elaborate on the nature of the anomaly during the planned one-second relight of the engine. Musk had stated that the engine suffered a “RUD” or “rapid unscheduled disassembly,” but SpaceX noted in its statement that “the stage survived and still deployed the satellites.” The stage also was able to “passivate itself,” a standard procedure at the end of its mission, removing energy sources from propellant tanks and batteries that could cause the stage to break up.”
Happy Friday from Texas
thank you both
Great Job 👍
And
Make Space Great Again
As soon as I saw the ice. I thought LOX leak.
Success always generates complacency. The better we are in any arena, the less attention we pay to the details that brought us to the plateau of success. That's when we assume nothing can go wrong any more. Then something - Great or Minor - does go wrong. A human at SpaceX overlooked something obvious and BOOM. It was destiny - as sucess ALWAYS generates complacency.
Wouldn't be supprised if it's a material failure of a 3D metal printed part, as this is still a fledgling technology.
I have trust in SpaceX getting to the root of the problem and sorting it out.
Great reporting Ellie.
This is actually a good thing. It's is a very rare problem for this rocket and now they are able to fix it making for a much better and safer system. This will get resolved very quickly.
Exactly! And a failure on a starlink mission, even better. Not like they sent people to the ISS to get stranded XD
@@battlebornsupermoto954 those 2 astronauts will be hoping it gets resolved quickly as in the back of their mind they might have been thinking that they can always get a ride on a Dragon.
You look good with your hair done that way and the cap
Thank you thank you❤ ellie
😃Ellie, Good day from GOONELLABAH, NSW! 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Now SpaceX will start getting those freaking annoying Extended Waranty spam phone calls. ( But seriously. these craft will continue get better and better.)
Watched the launch last night through the first minute or do of the stage 2 burn, and had no idea there was a problem till today.
Good content
Thank you!!
Good channel. I hope you somehow get the opportunity to go into space, one day.
I’d be checking SpaceX Vandenberg for Ex Boeing Engineers in demolition … it only takes one of the lines in the Rocket engine to be weakened and a fault like this can occur. I wouldn’t put Boeing beyond a little industrial Sabotage with the troubles and inquiries that they are going through. I don’t see any risk for Polaris Dawn as they won’t be launching from Vandeberg where I Suspect the biggest risk lies …
Two of my favorite people, love you both, keep up the great work!
Is it possible that the rocket was hit by a micro meteorite, or a piece of space junk that could have caused the leak?
Living just to the north we have the fortune of being able to watch the vandenburg launches live from our front yard
Love the hat! I hope it doesn't trigger anyone. If it does, just ignore it. Some people are just looking for a reason to be triggered.
SPACEX will sort it out quick, unlike Boeing.
Thought i saw something covering the camera on the booster. Could be a pipe pulled during stage separation. Apologies if i missed someone mentioning this.
What do ya think about the 2nd tower being Named Penguin with its flippers catching Starship?
20,000 new subs since the Elon interview, that was quick!
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Noticed the same ice build up on a previous Vandenberg mission. Left coast problem?
How do they find out what went wrong? Can they still rescue the two stuck on the station? Crazy. Thx for covering this.
With enough launches of the same thing, theres bound to be an eventual failure somewhere along the road. I dont think this will hinder SpaceX in any capacity once they isolate the issue.
Awesome cap Ellie
We were so used to get these launches into a success, that it's very odd to see some problems. Not to be repeated, please. But in technology, anything can go wrong. I know everything about it.
Elliie they are NASA astronauts and former navy tests pilots. Ellie that is what I say when I watched Butch and Sunny's Interview
"routine is a bitch" some say
I'm pretty sure they will investigate very quickly
launching starlinks is VERY good test bed for such cases in human/astronauts-safe environment
Nice hat Ellie
If a college dropout with snd orange space suit can get over a million subscribers, anything is possible.
Finally made it to Lompoc to watch my first rocket launch... So I may be the jinx for falcon 9 😢
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Re: Starliner astronauts allegiance to Boeing…I think they are more aligned with NASA’s commitment to have two viable space programs. They want competing and redundant programs to support their missions.
Great hat where can we get it?
So is it Falcon 9 or the Falcon 9 upper stage?
Upper stage
It was the upper stage. The main Falcon Booster returned and made a safe landing on the ship as usual.
What about issues with Starliner and over 8 leaks versus one leak on Spacex Falcon9…
I'm a Ellie fan
Unrelated to the current subject.
Just watched the "I'm getting fat" episode. (Not all of it though).
I had a friend that was fit (Stunningly so) until she started using the pill. From then on she only got bigger. ):
Me, I cut sugars and wheat products and that helps me maintain a great BMI. (My Dr. words).
Is this 3 launches in row where the upper stage failed? China, Arianne and the Falcon 9...
I read that SpaceX's normal satellite height is 183 miles; these reached 83 miles.
Missed it. After is was just yet another norminal mission after all. Well, when you launch that often, somthing will eventually happen.
This launch was "rich in data" and therefore a total success according to SpaceX!
With Crew 9 scheduled for August, I would not be surprised NASA becomes part of the process since they will not fly their crew unless they know the root cause has been identified and a resolution implemented to their satisfaction.
I don't watch falcon launches anymore cause is so mundane. It's exactly like the last one. I'm shocked something happened on a nonreusable stage. Weird. Still wouldn't of lead to a catastrophic failure for dragon missions.
Interesting that Boeing and ULA are sueing Space X and then this happens 🤔
I don't think it will happen given the problems they have with manufacturing those kinds of products.
The twitter live views might be anyone who ever clicked and watched a while? Like YT count is now 19k. I think YT has some time threshold like 40s or something before a viewer counts as a view. Maybe you get the statistics of viewer retention and watch time?
Last time they lost all their Starlink's, it was because they did not get or missed the information about a Solar Flare around launch time. This caused the Earth's atmosphere to expand and the Starlink ?Xenon? thrusters could not overcome the extra drag. Expect to see, in the news, similar pictures of a row of lights burning up in the atmosphere. Hope SpaceX had some insurance cover.
Should we not maybe add an extra fuel load to satellites just in case they don't reach full insertion and maybe allow them to last a bit longer in orbit otherwise
gotta love how the Austin news station kvue showed starship footage and photos while talking about a falcon 9. Correct info on the teleprompter, incorrect stock footage playing. Shouldn't both have to be accurate while broadcasting on the 6pm news?
They literally don’t know the difference
Dafuq is he talking about, being surprised that it was foggy at Vandenberg? Hey, tell us you don’t actually WATCH launches from Vandenberg without actually telling us you DON’T typically watch launches from Vandenberg. 🤦🏽♀️🤦♂️🙈
So can someone please explain why these StarLink satellites were launching to such a high orbit. I thought they were placed in low orbits for latency.
Again the FAA goes after spaceX. Let see what they will do regarding starliner
I watched all the conferences and they mesning NASA and Boeing have no worries.
Most likely they got a bad part. It happens. So now they find it & fix it.
16:00 was a very indirect way of saying that it is a possibility
31:00 very direct though
The selfie loop
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47:00 yes Veritasium speaks of that balance and how it is helpful to be marketing friendly
This is the equivalent of a jet blowing a tire on landing and the FAA grounding all planes because it was a mission 'issue".
Things MUST change if we're going to succeed off space.
Trust me Elon and spacex are on top of it !
They'll just load a starship with the larger satellites, and keep the off grid gamers happy.
Congrats Ellie for what?
Right??!? I wanna know!
For reaching 100k subscribers
I just heard on main Stream radio quote space x grounded and second stage exploded. That's it.
Space News
“The company did not elaborate on the nature of the anomaly during the planned one-second relight of the engine. Musk had stated that the engine suffered a “RUD” or “rapid unscheduled disassembly,” but SpaceX noted in its statement that “the stage survived and still deployed the satellites.” The stage also was able to “passivate itself,” a standard procedure at the end of its mission, removing energy sources from propellant tanks and batteries that could cause the stage to break up.”
Only Falcons 9 is grounded, as per standard practice.
SpaceX is preparing the report for the FAA, as they work out the facts of the anomaly and submit the findings to the FAA… Humans fly on the Falcon 9.🚀
@@RoBear-xo6zw yes I know that. I've been watching all the spacex podcasts. They had a liquid oxygen leak on the second stage engine, it was too low in orbit for starlink satellites. I thought second stage was shut down and let it burn up in the atmosphere. Booster made it back for the 19th time. Hell yeah on that. I was just pointing out how the person on the radio said it. All good.
Is it really a failure if it did its job?
So the 2 astronauts are stranded 😂😂😂not some BS from NASA about indefinite schedule
Love the Trump hat!
Boeing is ok to fly if the engines dont fall off
SpaceX will bound back quickly. They have a proven flight record. I would get on the Return to Flight of a Falcon before you would get me anywhere near a Boeing product.
Could this have been sabotage?
Gotta joke about long hair in space.
I don’t see what the issue is. The Dragon has its own escape system should the second stage do anything wrong. The carry rate of this rockets both 1ST and 2nd stages has been 100% until now and fail to see the point of even putting launches under duress. It does not effect Polaris nor the 5th launch. & as stated their launch cadence is far higher than everyone. Face it the engine kept doing its thing and it merely looks like a lot more fuel is being ejected,to freeze over in that manner Frankly I believe that would never happen again and that it would take another flight to prove it. I don’t see that there’s a reason to Ground.
Im sorry but you have a face for radio and a voice for print.
Smells like a Gas leak 😁
C”mon, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see that this is quite obviously a LOX leak. Lol. This wasn’t some epiphany.
Yes clearly leaking fuel freezing, which is why it couldn't make the targeted orbital height. The question is why. A design defect? A manufacturing fault? Boeing Agent 00747 armed with a drill?
SPECULATION ONLY, SOME COMPETITOR PAYED SOMEONE TO SABOTAGE THE ROCKET ON THE GROUND BEFORE LAUNCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secret Agent James Boeing, 00747, armed with a small drill...
Grounding? Must be a joke. Nobody was hurt or close to be hurt...
If it was a Crew Dragon launch, they probably would have been ok, but I don't want anyone on a spacecraft with an engine that's liable to blow up.
No makes perfect sense. You see how well starliner is doing? This is a critical piece of USA hardware. This is the best kind of failure. Being unmanned and spacex payload.
@@battlebornsupermoto954 Ok.