"St. Trina's life withered and fell, as fleeting as the seasons. At her last, she left a single water lily. Slightly boosts max FP. Despite the velvety-purple hue, the flower is in no way poisonous-it merely blooms in quietude."
Eh. Its less manipulation from saint trina and more him being obsessed and thinking of himself as a chosen one, and he throws a tantrum when you tell him you talked to trina instead.
Well we never got the chance to talk to him. He barely spoke. Two dialogues in his battle and a short flashback cutscene. That’s all the ultimate villain of this game got.
@@windwakergirl7 Miq isnt the big bad of this story.... no one is actually. Marika meant well, but F up. Miquella meant well and F up. Everyone tried their best but failed in a way. Thats why i go for the frenzy ending.
Why should we only be able to side with St. Tirina view? There are obviously 2 options. Torture ( Miquella)or death (St. Tirina) . We should be able to choose to side with the one we think is right. If his wish was to make a world a gentler place, why should we stop him from doing something he wants to do. If St. Tirina knows that godhood would be torture for him ( I am assuming she knows this because she is another aspect of Miquella and shares, in some capacity, his feelings) shouldn't that imply that Miquella also knew that? If so, Miquella willingly wants to become a god, sacrificing his own personal feelings for the sake of the better future. I don't see why we would want to kill someone like that and call it a mercy killing, its not an obvious choice to end his life and it shouldn't be an only one. My point is even tho the age that Miquella promises is morally questionable it doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to side with his view. We were able to become A Frenzied lord and dung lord, which are both morally wrong endings( the one burns the world the other curses it). If we were to follow the same logic, we shouldn't have gotten does 2 endings. Why can't we have an ending where we help Radahn battle Elden Beast and Radagon and after the battle we summon Miquella to become a new god, like with Ranni? I don't care if Miquellas age if compassion would be filled with brainwashed zombies, thats not a reason to not give us another ending to the game. Miquella literally durning the battle calls us to join him,, let us go together" HE EVEN CASTS HIS HAND TOWARDS US IN THE SAME MANNER RANNI DOES WHEN WE MARRY HER (im reffering to Miquellas grab attack ,, heart stolen"'). There were so many elements that show there should be another ending, another option where we join Miquella instead of killing him. The consort role maybe full. But we could become Miquellas champion which is a different position then Lord. Radagon was a Marikas champion when she had Godfrey as a consort. Why can't we step down from the position of the Elden Lord? We had choice to not link the fire, why are we forced now to become Elden Lord?
You're a tarnished, you're supposed to kill demi-gods, not serve them. Don't forget your mission. The only exception is Ranni, as she just wants to leave it all alone and F off into space with you.
@@robertdjohnstone Why cant Miquella be an exception also? He is not just any demigod he is an empyrean just like Ranni. Not giving him his ending is literally throwing his character under the bus and its lazy.
Godskin Duo? Gloam Eyed Queen? Where are you getting these from? The entire DLC has been datamined, all dialogue and text - these things are not in the DLC at all.
@@Synteczekwell most of us would have loved it if Melina arrived as the gloam eyed queen as an alternate ending but here's to hoping the next and might possibly last dlc for elding rings ends the last empyrean alongside the bloodmother
99/100 the Gloam-Eyed Queen is Melina, as confirmed by the Chaos ending. Why is that, must be on us to find. But I think From made that final cutscene on porpouse to make us understand what's happening. Also: Melina is confirmed to be the little sister of Messmer. So she could have been Empyrean
I have a question: if I don't summon either Ansbach or Thioller for the final fight, would I still be able to have their sets? Or it's obligatory to summon them?
Ever had that good kinda sleep where you just wanna lay back down cause you know there's no urgency to getting up? Yeah, that's St.Trina's sleep. Someone like T-bro would love it.
Just so you know, if you happened to kill Moore you won’t be able to get the potion, but you will still be able to do and finish the quest line. (He invades you when the charm gets broken somehow)
@@crazypkm yeah I cheesed the boss and they both barely lost any health and then just died lol. In my head cannon they survived tho and they're my trusted advisors as I'm the new lord
Dreams are messages from the deep.
He who controls the spice, controls the universe
I don't know how I feel about receiving messages from a fish fucker.
The spice must flow.
***brrammmm ba eu ba eeeu***
The power to destroy a thing is absolute control over it.
Well, what's the description of her hat?
"St. Trina's life withered and fell, as fleeting as the seasons. At her last, she left a single water lily. Slightly boosts max FP. Despite the velvety-purple hue, the flower is in no way poisonous-it merely blooms in quietude."
The VA for Thiollier was amazing.. Quiet tragedy in the way they speak
Igon's va: "Pathetic"
St. Trina dress should have been obtainable. Its beautiful.
@Alex-fb3ckdamn...
Relax. You can run around with a pot on your head. @Alex-fb3ck
@Alex-fb3ck
Lol are we going to ignore people running around with oversized jars on their head? Lol
@Alex-fb3ck You can't run as a flower in a game about living jars and trees, when you can put jar onto your head?
@Alex-fb3ck You can already run as a flower AND a mushroom. Is it fortnite now ?
8:06 Man had a heart attack
King Crimson.
Poor Thiollier. He was still bewitched by some form of Miquella in the end.
Eh. Its less manipulation from saint trina and more him being obsessed and thinking of himself as a chosen one, and he throws a tantrum when you tell him you talked to trina instead.
"Why did you mislead me..such strength, but for what?"
Tarnished: .....for the LOLz
Typical tarnished, he is just a huge troll
So I basically fought the T-1000 on steroids so this guy could simp before Lady Melatonin?
Elden Ring has a lot a simp based quests.
thank you for including the voice lines, literally every other walkthrough just gives you a laundry list of what to do without showing the dialogue
Ah man, i hoped she would stay alive
You know we could've used an advanced mimic tear body if Ranni had extra so transferring her to that would be Peak Fiction fantasy😢
Doesn't she stay alive if you don't summon her
@@praisegeraldoriveria9576 you can summon Trina?
@@brenoanselmo9563 I meant thioller not Trina, I might have misunderstood reading this
@@praisegeraldoriveria9576 wait so if i dont summon Thiollier to the Radahn fight Trina stays alive?
The Cuts straight to the death are killing me everytime
probably my favorite npc from the dlc, it's nap time
7:19 Soul Players alway doing a dumb thing and do over ,over and over until it work/same as Yoel "Draw Out True Strength" . . .
Wish we could be St. Trina’s lord in an ending. Whether she wanted to become a god or not wouldn’t have mattered.
We can only but dream ...
The flower hat is perfect for my twink build
St. Trina's ethereal beauty reminds me so much of DS3 Filianore ❤ . I want her concept artwork!
thiollier is voiced by prince lothric i think, funnily enough
Do we see st trina as not deformed?
@@tsemiunope
@@g0lddustt29no it's a different voice actor
Damn he was down bad
these npcs are more interesting than Miqella himself.
They really dropped the ball with him in the dlc
@@Shyreenify nah
@@Shyreenifyyeah
Well we never got the chance to talk to him. He barely spoke. Two dialogues in his battle and a short flashback cutscene. That’s all the ultimate villain of this game got.
@@windwakergirl7 Miq isnt the big bad of this story.... no one is actually. Marika meant well, but F up. Miquella meant well and F up. Everyone tried their best but failed in a way.
Thats why i go for the frenzy ending.
Whyd she die? :(
Because she was literally Miquella's other half.
@@redfox9446 I know, but still.
@@r.e.z9428
But still what? No Miqiella then to Trina. Easy as
@@sparxskywriter2589 Again? I know? Wasn’t refuting that? Its a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
@@redfox9446this explains why miquella is so bland as a final boss 😂
I managed to do his quest without a guide all the way up to the last “sleep” needed to get him to invade. So he just disappeared lol.
Why should we only be able to side with St. Tirina view? There are obviously 2 options. Torture ( Miquella)or death (St. Tirina) . We should be able to choose to side with the one we think is right.
If his wish was to make a world a gentler place, why should we stop him from doing something he wants to do. If St. Tirina knows that godhood would be torture for him ( I am assuming she knows this because she is another aspect of Miquella and shares, in some capacity, his feelings) shouldn't that imply that Miquella also knew that? If so, Miquella willingly wants to become a god, sacrificing his own personal feelings for the sake of the better future. I don't see why we would want to kill someone like that and call it a mercy killing, its not an obvious choice to end his life and it shouldn't be an only one.
My point is even tho the age that Miquella promises is morally questionable it doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to side with his view. We were able to become A Frenzied lord and dung lord, which are both morally wrong endings( the one burns the world the other curses it). If we were to follow the same logic, we shouldn't have gotten does 2 endings.
Why can't we have an ending where we help Radahn battle Elden Beast and Radagon and after the battle we summon Miquella to become a new god, like with Ranni?
I don't care if Miquellas age if compassion would be filled with brainwashed zombies, thats not a reason to not give us another ending to the game.
Miquella literally durning the battle calls us to join him,, let us go together" HE EVEN CASTS HIS HAND TOWARDS US IN THE SAME MANNER RANNI DOES WHEN WE MARRY HER (im reffering to Miquellas grab attack ,, heart stolen"').
There were so many elements that show there should be another ending, another option where we join Miquella instead of killing him.
The consort role maybe full. But we could become Miquellas champion which is a different position then Lord. Radagon was a Marikas champion when she had Godfrey as a consort.
Why can't we step down from the position of the Elden Lord? We had choice to not link the fire, why are we forced now to become Elden Lord?
Agree. The DLC should've come with a Miquella ending.
Nah I’m good
You're a tarnished, you're supposed to kill demi-gods, not serve them. Don't forget your mission. The only exception is Ranni, as she just wants to leave it all alone and F off into space with you.
@@robertdjohnstone You're also presumably not supposed to melt down the entire world, but the game allows you to do so anyway.
@@robertdjohnstone Why cant Miquella be an exception also? He is not just any demigod he is an empyrean just like Ranni. Not giving him his ending is literally throwing his character under the bus and its lazy.
I missed this NPC completly lol
I talked to him once and now I can’t do his quest since I killed radahn already, I completely forgot about him.
the other channels don't have the dialogue about Thiollier in the last fight as you do but you cut it short :(
Even tho dlc is release, there still so much secret here, godskin duo gloam eye queen etc
No one has posted anything about either. I assume that info are deep in the dungeons, or no one's met the pre-req for the questlines yet.
Godskin Duo? Gloam Eyed Queen? Where are you getting these from? The entire DLC has been datamined, all dialogue and text - these things are not in the DLC at all.
@@Synteczekwell most of us would have loved it if Melina arrived as the gloam eyed queen as an alternate ending but here's to hoping the next and might possibly last dlc for elding rings ends the last empyrean alongside the bloodmother
99/100 the Gloam-Eyed Queen is Melina, as confirmed by the Chaos ending. Why is that, must be on us to find. But I think From made that final cutscene on porpouse to make us understand what's happening.
Also: Melina is confirmed to be the little sister of Messmer. So she could have been Empyrean
@@gabrielbomberact None od the two are Empyrean
I have a question: if I don't summon either Ansbach or Thioller for the final fight, would I still be able to have their sets? Or it's obligatory to summon them?
Its mandatory to summon them for the fight, otherwise they wouldn't die and wouldn't drop their sets.
@@JAYbePRINCE and if I desummon them?
@@jallerxzl1966 idk
@@JAYbePRINCEHow many of them is it possible to summon for the final fight?
@@CaliburXL99 I quess only 2 summons, as normally one can only summon up to 2 furled fingers into their world.
Well, I hate when I miss something and need to replay everything just for that.
what a weird questline. So St.Trina is a flower-person-god?
She's the other half of Miquella. Just like Radagon is the other half of Marika.
@@Closerline so how are they created? does this mean radagon used to be a flower?
@@eyesofthebeast who knows, they are Gods
so we still have a little hope, if we can't merry Miquella, we can merry St.Trina
Trina died with Miquella.
@@Railgun_Enjoyer i know, but i still hope that we will find how to kill Miquella but does not cause St Trina to die
Nah st trina always sleep,how we can speak to her propely😂
Can you do all of the side quest in 1 playthrough ?
Yeah since this is a self contained DLC. It actually incentive for you to do that because of the massive amount of NPC you battle in that arena.
@@blackskullknight9062 🤝
Thanks man!
My Man is THICC
the gift from Moore is attainable before going to the shadow keep
Damn it i killed the Decay boss before st Trina before i talked to Thiollier. Is there somthing i can do?
Just talk to him and he’ll show up
so i miquella a good guy or a bad guy what im confused
He's a good guy who's done some bad things
@@Marukanitel idk man im getting Griffith vibes one this one
@@mackiesncheese Age of Compassion says otherwise
Miquella literally mind controls people, he is evil. In the final boss one of his attacks is mind controlling you.
@@davidmcgee5354 so he is basically Griffth
Moore is nowhere to be found… I’m cooked
For your trespass you will know his poison
Missed everything I never even met this person
Ever had that good kinda sleep where you just wanna lay back down cause you know there's no urgency to getting up? Yeah, that's St.Trina's sleep. Someone like T-bro would love it.
Does anyone knows if this can be completed if i never talk to him and then i went to saint trina and know he’s no where to be found?? Hajaha
Thiollier isn't appearing at Pillar Path Cross for me. I already killed Messmer
did anyone notice that Thiollier's voice is similar to Gwyndolin's ?
He wasn't at the 1st place for me but I went looking after I killed the knight and another person. I'll try next time
I followed the questline however freya nor hornsent appeared in the battle. Did I do something wrong?!
Just so you know, if you happened to kill Moore you won’t be able to get the potion, but you will still be able to do and finish the quest line. (He invades you when the charm gets broken somehow)
I wish they added at least one sleep spell with the dlc
If i burned the tree and cant find thiollier do i have to new game plus?
yes, burn the tree is end all of npc questline so you should do npc quest first,point of no return
Is anything different if ansbach and thiollier survive the final boss?
Ansbach survived in my fight but he still ended up dying …
@@crazypkm yeah I cheesed the boss and they both barely lost any health and then just died lol. In my head cannon they survived tho and they're my trusted advisors as I'm the new lord
What sword is that?
remember to dislike the video cause he leaved spoilers "st trina's face" in the thumbnail