Elden Ring Lore - Thiollier: Adherent of St. Trina
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- Have you ever felt the call of sweet velvety sleep? The allure of St. Trina? Thiollier has, and we are ready to tell his story.
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>self conscious
>simp
>drug addict
>just wants sleep
Yep, he's literally me
He's just like me fr fr
*imbibes St. Trina's nectar*
Thick as two planks
Real 🍻
> in love with a little gay boy's trap alter-ego
Literally you. No judgment though bb. You get your pretty butt clean okay?
indeed lol i recognized myself so much in him, since first meeting with thiollier i thought hes totally a junkie
Babe wake up, new STG… babe? Babe!?
Okay this one made me laugh
*Metal Gear Solid game over music* "BAAAAAAAABE!!!"
[Babe has imbibed the nectar]
Snake?! Snaaaaaaaake!
@@TurnipsFacts
This guy just like me. Adore sleep, make concontion for sleeping, and fell in love with his bed.
Dude had the slightest taste of the deepest sleep ever and now he wants to find it again? Sounds legit. If only we could follow Thollier's example. Maybe I wouldn't be so exhausted all the time.
Also, I've been saying this a lot recently, but the fact that Miquella gave up his love shows that his age of Compassion is a sham: how can you show compassion if you've abandoned your love? It's just a different type of control.
Age of Pacification is more accurate
My personal interpretation is that St. Trina was not only a love goddess, but also the one responsible for Miquella compelling others. So, I guess he did the right thing leaving her behind. But who knows, uh? 😅
@@rotinasemroteiro from the evidence given, it was his great rune that seemed to compel or charm others. when the rune breaks upon reaching a certain point in the DLC, the spell's effect over the NPC's is shattered. Some continue to follow him, while others realize they've been under a spell and how terrifying a power it is, so they move against him. Not trying to disprove your interpretation, just tossing the info out there. :P
@@SageTigerStar no problem at all! I'm playing it and haven't finished yet, but don't care about spoilers, so that's okay. My interpretation can also change drastically when I finish it and have more info and I'm aware of it. If it's his great rune, yeah, it makes sense. 😅
The phantom is correct in his assessment: Miquella's quest became hopeless when he decided to abandon the reason he was doing it in the first place.
He couldn't save everyone if he couldn't even save himself.
Dead? Or has he reached his eternal sleep. One can dream
Thiollier like, VERY quickly went from being one of my least favorite characters to one of my favorites. He's such a good dude worthy of protection.
Dude earned sir ansbach respect you have to be pretty awesome got get noticed by that gigachad
If only it wasn't a fromsoft game. He might've had a chance then...
Didn't expect friend when needed friends most. (Avoiding spoilers). And man put in the work.
Nah the dude was a crazy jealous dude who did everything to please his target of obsession. Defo not a good guy
And he's bad ass enough to know poison and perfume bottles aren't strong but still rock them brilliantly anyway
If you find the cross in the Stone Coffin area before the rune breaks, and come back to Ansbach to tell him about it, he says this:
"To think there was a cross left in such a faraway place and that deep-purple water lilies would be blooming there. This can only mean Kindly Miquella has divested himself even of that... His adoring other self, his blossom of slumber."
Which means that the "I abandon here my love" at that cross could have a double meaning. The first meaning is that It's assumed he divested himself of his capacity for love there, but with what Ansbach says, it becomes that he abandoned his actual love, St Trina, there. Grim.
(also I think that because the Lands Between is a world without true death, a side effect may be that there is no real sleep either, basically every npc is always available 24 hours a day, and the only talk of sleep within the game revolves around St Trina. Because of this lack of real sleep within the world, St Trina became such a beloved figure because she offered actual rest to people that otherwise was unavailable, and Thollier experienced that true rest once and chased it ever since)
Gotta be one of my favorite dlc characters. A true snoozer male
Someone you can truly look down and sneer on.
@@kayhaichtoxic
dryleaf dane does say "kindly miquella" before he dies.
he's simply a monk studying miquella. thas it i guess
He gave me my favorite weapon after an honorable duel, and for that alone I think he's a badass.
Absolutely my favorite NPC. Getting to the last location blew my mind
I honestly was hoping for a little bit more from the St Trina arc. It honestly seems a little rushed I'm not sure if this was the finale all along or if they made changes to kind of squeeze it in but I feel like it had potential to have such more depth and I don't know more to it
I felt the same way especially the large areas on the map that are inaccessible and empty plus the extremely large areas that have 2 items. But I mean at the same time this felt more like an entire game than a dlc, from my point of view at least
So basically Thiollier was a Tier 3 sub who was simping hard for St. Trina and thought he was "that guy" but it turned out "that guy" was the Tarnished.
Thiollier is also tarnished.
“That guy” was you specifically, my G 😎
I would like to hear the story of Redmane Freija and pureblood Knight Sir Ansbach. How the two started off as friends and how they became on opposite sides of the battlefield. Also I think maybe look at Thiolloer's voice lines in the final two battles as I believe that might explain how he came to the conclusion to help us.
Yup! He confirms my assumptions. He fights to serve St Trina
Would love a vid on Sir Ansbach or Igon they were some of my fav NPCs in the dlc
My theory on why Thiollier joined us despite doubting and attacking us is he finally heard St. Trina’s word and in the Leta boss fight he apologizes to us for not believing the tarnish when passing down her words.
Thiollier is honestly probably one of my favorite characters
He is like, the only one i got done really but he also mirrors my characters progression in the story
Thiollier is my favorite of the new NPCs. Poor sad little man. No confidence, no self worth beyond the hope that St Trina will want him. But in the end is brave enough to take on 2 demigods and dies to accomplish his goal.
As Trina has been firmly established as a manifestation of Miquela, the next question to ask would be, how long have they been a part, that is, how much time has passed since Trina has been cast away? Was it during the the shattering? Was it after the cocoon incident? Was it after our tarnished arrival? Even more importantly, was Trina a clear entity before the split, or just a guise, a mask of Miquela before the split?
The implication is that they were separated in the land of shadow.
@@square-table-gaming yep, but how long since Miquela went there, that's what i'm wondering. If Melenia fought Radagon during the shattering, and by the time her body was taken bake to the Brace, Miquela was already gone with Mohg, that may imply that it's been quite a while.
@@ilejovcevski79 it happens while we are there, miquella abandons his grace in real time, the game tells you as much. We are literally right behind him. Trailing him to the very end. You can even find mohgs body before it’s filled with radahns soul.
@@sampalace358 and there is the breaking of the seal...
I think it might have been beforr the kidnapping as Miquella with St Trina as the other half probably still has his humanity and kindness for lack of bettter word probably woukdn't have done something so cruel. But this would lead to other questions. Mainly, how Miquella gained access to the land of shadow before manipulating mohg.
I love when you guys drop. The deep lore dives and details you guys do are literally my favorite to watch on RUclips regarding Elden ring. Please continue to do great work ! As you guys already do.
Glad I found this channel with lore videos that don’t take a week and a half to watch
Oh we make those too, but they're just compilations of all the smaller ones haha
Really loved the cast of NPCs we got with this DLC. I think The Old Hunters only had one that moved and a couple others with items but every NPC in SOTE felt really fleshed out and purposeful. It was both really fun and tragic to have them face off with you and one another right before the final boss.
Let's go sleepy boi!
Favorite npc so far from the dlc but inbuing the nectar over and over was dumb
I love the way SOTE characters are written
All of them are searching for love, in their different manners
when Thiollier attacks us for getting the love he couldn't have
when Messmer attacks us and destroys whatever he has to in order to get the love his mother denied him
when Miquella steals the player's heart
miyazaki was so real for that
i finally made it down there and she's just so eerie to look at, but I wish we could know more about her then through Thollier's creepyness lol Thank you for this video!
As soon as i met thiollier immediately i was like "we're best buddies now" and then, just like all my friends(Blaidd, Alexander) i had to fight them 😭. At least this time they can help with the final boss lol.
I get that he craves this death-like sleep because he's smitten with Trina, but I'm sad he dies no matter what. So far Patches is the only NPC in my favorites roster who survives unless the player kills him intentionally. 😅
I like how you present the facts, what actually happens in the game.
Too many lore channels are going into some deep interpretations that barely make sense.
We try to make sure we're getting at something deeper but still presenting things as they are
love thiollier's outfit, especially his beautiful mask
The boy!!💜 I really care about him lol Thank you for talking about him!
Isn’t this character the only one of Miquella’s initial chosen who says outright they are/were a Tarnished? In-game, St. Trina’s sleep can only manifest ‘half-way’ in The Lands Between, as Miquella’s influence on St. Trina’s lilies prevent them from being as potent as they should be. In the Land of Shadow, St. Trina’s lilies become concentrated and velvet- a sign that the flower is at its most potent. Deep sleep is probably the only way a Tarnished could experience what amounts to true rest, and analogous to wanting a true death in a way. Poison Boi was given grace, although he admits he’s not fit to fight Marika’s eternal struggle to become Elden Lord. Maybe the breaking of Miquella’s rune reveals that Tholier was seeking what amounts to a true death for a Tarnished, and the full power of St. Trina could be the only thing that could grant him anything that could feel even close to that.
This was awesome. Keep em' coming.
I love him!! I also love the idea of 2 new lore vids a week!
I like how when speaking to Leda about her comrades and bringing up Thiollier, she dismisses this idea saying he’s no threat. and then Thiollier is a summon against her and Miquella
My first thought when I read the description of St Trina's Smile talisman after beating up Thiollier...
SIMP!
My fav character in the DLC, hes literally me lol and the poison obsession 😩
Excellent video, 10 out of 10 ! ! Top Notch! I can't wait for the next one! 🤯
God he’s so pathetic, I love him
THIOLLIER THE LITERAL LOVE OF MY LIFE
Starlight's face on the thumbnail
Please feel free to keep them to 1 a week, there's only so much more Elden Ring content to be made. I'd much prefer the extra time spent on each video
We're going to make sure it doesn't affect the quality. If it does we're going to pull back to 1 per week.
HE WAS A HOMIE!! When I fought Radahn I thought I had one friend left, but I could’ve had two? I didn’t find St. Trina until after I fought Radahn, a fool I was…
Well done, STG. Impressive work as always.
Thank you!
I play without summons personally and do everything alone, but Thiollier.. man.
Since the start I loved him and always trusted him even though when he hates my guts I still wanted to comfort him and then later seeing him be summonable against the fight of Miquellas companions (MY FRIENDS :C ) I actually summoned him and Ansbach and it was such a great feeling of companionship and fighting in battle with my friend it felt so great and then after seeing all my other friends dead man it hit so hard. But thiollier my goat.
Him and ansbach can also be summoned at the last boss which I find awesome but I want to do it alone and currently on 32 deaths.
It’s a shame I only have thiollier and ansbach now.. why must the blood of my fellows, the erd tree faithful spill… why
what a touching comment and I agree with each single word of it. Indeed, they are wonderful characters.
Sorry I didn’t come into work today, I was too busy watching this banger of a video
If you’ve ever seen Naruto, Thiollier and St. Trina’s followers remind me of the Inifite Tsukoyomi (the infinite dream). Sleep and dreams are a place where there is no more suffering, no more struggle, no more bloodshed. It’s like a gentler version of frenzied flame. Instead of melting away every sin and every curse this is just sleeping it away. Maybe this is what Thiollier was after
you missed the perfect opportunity to say "Through dangers untold and hardships unnumbered, I have fought my way here to the castle beyond the Golden City to take back the grace that you have stolen" a play on the bit from Labyrinth lolol
A shame this quest locks out if you recklessly burn the sealing tree early...
Im excited for dry leaf Danes story. Lots to unpack In the conversations with him.
When he said
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I felt that
I like to think that St. Trina was the part of Miquella that make him manipulate people, the compelling thing fits the lovable nature of St. Trina. So, in hope of ascending as Lord and don't wanting/needing to manipulate people anymore, he separated himself to pursue his own way. I wish we had a St. Trina or Miquella's ending, like the Ranni one.😅
I think St.Trina more representing truest love, without manipulation and brainwashing bs, that's why Miquella discarded her.
My precious Eepy son!!
Homie has confidence issues 😂
plus drug and territorialism are all red flags...st trina just like "yeah you can be mod and do my work for me, btch"
Yeah, I missed that step of getting the black syrup from Moore till it was too late. Worse still, I found out the spell can also be broken if you ran the alternate path from Bonny Village, so I missed out on getting that concoction completely.
Oh well. Sleepy boy Thiollier was a cool NPC.
Sad I totally missed him and his quest. I foolishly wanted a blind play-through and locked myself out of a lot of stuff…
I’m pretty miffed with the quest design in Elden Ring overall.
You can replay the game 3 times without a guide, and can miss nearly every ending all 3 times.
If you do a blind playthrough it's on you to explore thoroughly. Don't blame quest design because you were lazy
I did a blind playthrough and found almost 99% of all the stuff in the DLC, I comb each area using the map and markers to make it easier for myself to know which areas I havent visited yet, you should try doing that.
@@savevsdeath nice, yeah just assume I’m lazy and didn’t thoroughly explore every nook and cranny I could…
Just ignore the fact that exploring things in the wrong order can ruin these quests, that this specific NPC vanishes if you cross an invisible boundary before even reaching Messmer’s castle.
So even exploring literally everything doesn’t mean you’ll find or complete these quests.
But it’s not that the quests are convoluted and poorly designed, I’m just lazy.
@@CFX992 I found pretty much every area and dungeon to my knowledge. My issue is the order you discover things can affect and ruin questlines that have rewards that I’d want…
I don’t expect to find everything in the game, but I also don’t expect to miss out on 90% of the gear just because the NPC quests are convoluted and will self delete with no warning or anything.
@@The.Nasty. I get you , but that's the fun in the game isn't it? things are not very easy to find, I think the base game already conditioned most of us to do what I told you about, if you found all the hidden stuff in the base game, combing the DLC region for secrets should be like second nature to you.
Maybe he should have just gotten some sleep.
after this quest, you'd notice you can summon him in both fight agaisnt leda and radahn.
so.. they said using summons make the game easier right? try summoning both thiollier and ansbach on the final boss. the fight is borderline impossible.
Outstanding video!! ❤
Thank you!!
Midra the Lord of frenzied flame lore is unsettling
Um, excuse me: I keep hearing "Sca-doo" tree fragments, or "Sha-doo" tree fragments.
They're Scooby Snacks.
This is now canon.
Great guy, kind of sad I decided to go to Enir-Ilim early, so missed the whole quest line… 😢
Yup me too :( I was afraid this might be the case... Next time I'll get him!
what happens if you hit him with deep sleep status effect?
I literally fell asleep listening to this, St Trina is real
I would love to see a video on Metyr and the finger readers
Square table gaming is like saint trina in a way. They’ll both put your ass to sleeeeeeepppppp.
YES! Finally the St. Trina lore video I've been craving. She was my most anticipated part of the DLC, ever since I saw the trailer. I literally just did the questline 2 nights ago and I've been nearly obsessed with learning all about the lore and everything. I totally resonate with Thiollier lol I can see how he get so hooked. It's just such a fascinating concept in this game. It's unlike any other piece of lore. St. Trina herself has been a huge mystery, the sleep ailment is utterly unique to all other status effects, Thiollier is a sympathetic character to the new story and his armor set is one of the best looking sets in the game, imo. Very fitting this video drops while I'm in the middle of being totally obsessed with this section of the story. Thank you for the lovely content and I cannot wait to see the deep dives on all the other followers of Miquella.
This character honestly appeals to me so much. The unconventional romantic undertones, the clear mental health issues, the desire for the release of sleep.
This character is what some people would call "woke", in all the right ways, and none of the wrong ones.
Simp is the best descriptor
I missed the upload cuz work 😢 But now I have the perfect bedtime story! Thank you ❤
Sall good! Watch whenever works for you!
Bayle and Igon next, surely 🥺🤞🏻
We have a poll for what comes next but I'm thinking of intercutting character stories between bigger topics
I wonder if he came up with the recipes in the fevors cookbook as well
Fevor seems to be the name of the person who wrote the cookbook so I dont think so. That would have been an excellent tie-in though.
@@square-table-gaming Would’ve been very cool! Love your videos and thanks for covering my dood Thiollier, I love this guy
I think it’s pretty likely that thiollier suffers from some sort of chronic pain and is just handling it in the least healthy way imaginable thanks to the golden order’s extreme bias towards spiritualism over practical aid. I don’t experience chronic pain myself but speaking to friends who do, I’ve heard that some days the pain is so bad the only way to get even a little bit of relief is sleeping, and at the same time the pain also makes sleeping virtually impossible. when thiollier speaks I can hear that constant edge of pain in his voice, and I fully understand why he’s so maddeningly desperate to the point of risking his life over something as seemingly simple and easy to achieve as a good rest (to the point where he personifies the idea of this nigh unattainable peace as a caring lover!!!!). most of us tend to take sleep for granted but I think anyone would be just as desperate for the relief it provides as thiollier is were we in his shoes
I think dane speaks when you kill him
We played him, just like we were played ourselves " such strength " because we are a demi god 😅
Too bad they don't show what he looks like under his mask in-game. His feminine hairstyle only adds to his obsession with Miquella's feminine half. He's a true stan
Banger vid 🔥
You should do the Golden Needle Knight next.
I think we'd likely tackle Leda after her companions
Heroine addicted
I swear I thought Thiollier was a girl the first time I saw him. It wasn't until other NPC's dialogs referring Thiollier as a "he" and I realized Thiollier's actually a dude.
So is there a way to move back you ps5 Elden ring save data back to ps4 version of the game on ps5 console. I just finished the dlc and want to move my data back to the ps4 version of the game what do I do
Not that I'm aware of
I hope in the future update fromsoftware can let you go back journey aka new game plus to reach the dlc easier and faster for things you missed out on
Plz do the great and almighty Igon next! HRRRROOOOOOAAAARRRR!
Rellana lore 👀
Yo what armor are you using
It works so well with the banished knight helm
Blaidds armor altered
@@square-table-gaming dope, thanks
@@square-table-gamingdefinitely one of the best altered sets from the base game, but holy fk the dlc has so much drippy armor
@@TheGoudaGoblin its also the lightest weight to highest poise ratio pre-DLC. Honestly an S tier fit but having to do Ranni quest for it sucks.
@@randommortal3383 oh fr? I knew abt most of the best sets for that but I had thought most altered sets had a worse poise:weight ratio than the originals
Facts
hes so cute
Midra please
Check in this Saturday ;)
Thiollier is almost as big a simp as Ranni fans
It's an in-joke lol
I already miss the character creation music
Badly enough that we shouldn't use the Trina theme? I may seriously leave this up to a community poll
2 new vids per week? Don't rush your good content if you can avoid it.
We're only going to do it if we can manage the timeline haha. If we feel like it's too much we're going to pull back.
@@square-table-gaming good, glad to know you won't push yourself too hard
Dryleaf Dane breaks his vow of silence when you kill him during the big arena battle, but yea other than that he is the typical silent anime side character that everyone thinks is cool, all he needs is the katana and the weeb edgedom is complete, hat covering the eyes and all.
Please take your time with the videos. Quality over quantity anytime!
Agreed! If 2 a week makes the quality dip we're not going to do it
He a pot head.
I never found this mf
It still isn’t the size of fucking limgrave.
Is this a complaint?
Excuse me, sir, it's pronounced "Skadootchie Fragment" 😠
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12:38 Why do all the RUclipsrs always say *"God?"* it's like everyone forgot what Goddess means...
Because in Elden Ring even Marika is refered to as a god. The term goddess is only ever applied to Malenia, for some reason.
This
Because both Miquella and Marikka have two entities , so God is used here as a more neutral term. St Trina while separated from Miquella, technically still IS Miquella.
Can all you RUclipsrs stop pronouncing it "ska-du" tree? It's pronounced shadutree, like shadow, it's written in old English. Shadu, not Scadu.
Shutup skad doo hater.
It’s old English idk why you expected everyone to pronounce it right. I think you’ll live.
@@cyndlehick9777 don't tell him to live, tell him to love, because he's a skad doo hater
My old English professor would have gotten an aneurysm 🤭. Thanks to him I was able to figure out it was Shadu like you said instead of “ska-du” and then yeah everyone call it Scadutree threw me for a loop. I’m not shaming or calling anyone out but I thought it was a funny coincidence.
Sorry man, it's never said in-game, I guarantee if I pronounced it that way I'd get just as many comments asking me why
This dude is a toxic simp
Literally!
The biggest most useless simp in from soft’s catalogue 😂
Dude is an absolute unit against Leda and her companions
Where all of my St Trina simps at yoooooo
I was attracted to Thiollier and Ansbach before knowing their names, them and Freyja turned out to be my favorite npc's from the dlc