Beating Extreme Mode Master King Koco's Trial! (Sonic Frontiers - Update 3 - Pre-Patch 1.41!)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @StickmanGuides
    @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +58

    Here's a video of the Extreme mode run for the Master King Koco Trial, but I couldn't have done it without the weird cheese. For some reason, if you press and hold one of the bumpers to parry, you will instead just avoid every attack on Wyvern LOL. I really hope this is able to help the unfortunate souls who played through the entire DLC on Extreme mode, and got stuck here.
    Side Note: I restarted one of the test runs I was doing before, but because I've been on this for about 16 hours now, I had a brain fart and forgot to show the pause menu proving I am on Extreme Mode for the actual run itself, so I just kept the test run in as proof.

    • @EnderBrine_
      @EnderBrine_ 11 месяцев назад +10

      Nah bro you did very well i can tell how frustrating this thing is and I can’t wait to do this by myself

    • @theguywhoasked2597
      @theguywhoasked2597 11 месяцев назад +9

      Ime pretty sure everyone agrees wyvern is the hardest titan in trial 5

    • @fransiscayulianita68
      @fransiscayulianita68 11 месяцев назад +9

      I got a theory:
      When you dodge as normal Sonic, you're invulnerable until the animation ends. And holding it will result in him doing it continuously until he hits a wall.
      Wyvern's battle takes place in a chase sequence, and when you hold one of the dodge buttons long enough, you'll hit one of the invisible side walls (so that you don't go off course during the chase). Now normally, you can't dodge to the side when there's a wall beside you. But since Super Sonic is programmed to be continuously chasing after Wyvern, when you hit a wall, his dodging animation will instead freeze (meaning he is always dodging), which then results in infinite invulnerability.

    • @oh5079
      @oh5079 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@fransiscayulianita68 great theory, I agree with you. Spent soo much time on this. Can’t wait to try it 😭

    • @oh5079
      @oh5079 11 месяцев назад +2

      Hey man how do you parry wyvrns attack after the rockets?

  • @majinblussb
    @majinblussb 11 месяцев назад +65

    11:40 - YOU DID IT!!!!! YOU SYNCED THE END OF BREAK THROUGH IT ALL!!!!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!

    • @Angelicpower1
      @Angelicpower1 9 месяцев назад +3

      NEVER MIND THAT HOW DID WYVERNS BULLETS NOT SHOOT YOU BACK?! THAT SOME EXTREME PERK

    • @majinblussb
      @majinblussb 9 месяцев назад +2

      HE USED AN EXPLOIT BY HOLDING DODGE AKD HUGGING THE CORNER OF THE SCREEN TO PREVENT TAKING DAMAGE

    • @ninjajoe95
      @ninjajoe95 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​You don't even have to hug the corner of the screen.

    • @Damonkebarae
      @Damonkebarae 7 месяцев назад +1

      Why weren’t they parrying the bullets?

  • @ninjajoe95
    @ninjajoe95 10 месяцев назад +25

    I'm stuck on phase 2 of Knight.
    Finding the timing to Parry the shield when you only get one shot is *BRUTAL*

    • @ninjajoe95
      @ninjajoe95 10 месяцев назад +8

      Update: I beat it

  • @EchidnaSharp
    @EchidnaSharp 11 месяцев назад +50

    how to tell someone is a masochist:

  • @jadonh
    @jadonh 11 месяцев назад +43

    I literally just beat that trial on Extreme Mode earlier today, lol. It took over 30 hours, but I am just SO glad it's over. Guess I better actually finish the DLC now, haha!

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +14

      Congrats dude! I wouldn’t wish this pain on my worst enemy. Glad you got through

    • @dailymemesylyl
      @dailymemesylyl 11 месяцев назад +4

      I don’t even want to know how much tries it took you to beat this.

    • @jadonh
      @jadonh 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@dailymemesylyl I don’t want to know either, lol. All I know is that I’ve seen Giganto blow up WAY too many times over that 30 hours.

    • @theguywhoasked2597
      @theguywhoasked2597 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@jadonhsonic slicing the knight must have been the most satisfying thing you ever saw

    • @dailymemesylyl
      @dailymemesylyl 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jadonh 30? WHAT? At this point, I’d kill myself

  • @Conqutih
    @Conqutih 11 месяцев назад +17

    Honestly I wouldn't wish this trial on my worst enemy but congrats for beating it on extreme mode. I nearly lost my sanity while playing it on lower difficulty so I cannot imagine playing this trial on extreme mode

  • @stubblylist1981
    @stubblylist1981 11 месяцев назад +30

    You actually managed to do it, congrats! Feels great to watch you finally pull it off after all those hours of struggle on stream! Also, that cheese will help me quite a lot if I decide to go for this myself, so thank you for that information!
    I hope that The End won't be as brutal as this on Extreme lol

  • @Pancakes_lord
    @Pancakes_lord 11 месяцев назад +11

    Fun fact, you can add more cheese to the invincible dodging. If you suck at the perfect parry like me, you can mash the pause button over and over until right before the boss attacks and you can time the parry easier that way. You can also hold the invincibility while pausing so you can risk the perfect timing a bit easier

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh my LOL. The uber cheese is real

    • @BoltTheLion
      @BoltTheLion 10 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t understand what that means

  • @brickzoneanimations8395
    @brickzoneanimations8395 9 месяцев назад +4

    I just beat the game on hard mode it took me 2 days to do it but seeing you taking it down in Extreme mode is amazing! Respect!

  • @flynnroberts7787
    @flynnroberts7787 11 месяцев назад +53

    A task like this... THIS IS REVENGEANCE.

    • @dollmaker6599
      @dollmaker6599 11 месяцев назад +2

      I did that difficulty and it’s nowhere near as BS as this

  • @Blossom_the_ULTRAKILL_addict
    @Blossom_the_ULTRAKILL_addict 11 месяцев назад +8

    i struggle on easy mode the practice you did just to impress your viewers is respectable what im trying to say in a nutshell is this video is underrated

  • @gunin-sfsb
    @gunin-sfsb 11 месяцев назад +11

    Congratulations man, You did it!

  • @FWMG
    @FWMG 11 месяцев назад +42

    Dude is going hard on frontiers!😮

  • @VerifiedInfo11291
    @VerifiedInfo11291 11 месяцев назад +9

    I WAS WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM BUT I DIDN’T SEE YOU BEAT IT!!! GOOD JOB DUDE!!!

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +3

      Had to play a couple more hours off stream to get it haha

    • @bendito247
      @bendito247 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@StickmanGuidesWait when and where did you stream the update? I’d like to watch that!

  • @isaiahthechristiangamer8716
    @isaiahthechristiangamer8716 11 месяцев назад +14

    I’m on my like 60th attempt. The closest I’ve gotten was in the Knight Fight during the throwing spinnin’ shield section where I had to parry the shield back.
    Edited: I did it, I’ve finally beaten it. Took me about 70-80 attempts.

  • @Didyxxz
    @Didyxxz 11 месяцев назад +9

    it was already torture on hard mode i couldn’t ever imagine doing it on extreme

  • @fransiscayulianita68
    @fransiscayulianita68 11 месяцев назад +6

    3:48 Actual 10,000 iq lmao

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah haha, the game may try to lock you into place, but parry spam gets you out instantly!

  • @davidclaxton3674
    @davidclaxton3674 11 месяцев назад +7

    I already beat Wyvern in Extreme without holding the bumper, but trying it again with it for new game plus, wow, he feels 300% easier now.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      You are an actual gaming legend my goodness! GG and a WELL Deserved W. You should post your run when you get the chance!

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Nvm I found it! Supported dude. Good stuff :D

  • @trueaura369
    @trueaura369 7 месяцев назад +1

    Bro i have done so many attempts and lost all of them because of the second boss and being forced to parry in order to attack. I almost beat him by doing stomp into triangle circle grab but i should have stomped twice because he was still alive and then i died later. Easily the hardest boss fight ive ever fought against and the main difficulty is the nerfs sonic receives. Congratulations on beating this level

  • @ondrakotouc1389
    @ondrakotouc1389 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ima fina do 5 push up for each fail on this trial

  • @bluewriter1751
    @bluewriter1751 9 месяцев назад

    You are an absolute madman. Coming from someone who just spent 24 attempts aka 3 hours without a break before I completed this trial I would have absolutely lost my ever loving mind. I already felt like I lost brain cells trying to perfect parry. I'm okay with not playing Frontiers for a few weeks now 😂 What I'm trying to say is I can't even fathom how you could do this on extreme, you have every ounce of respect from me 👌🤝

  • @Datgamer
    @Datgamer 11 месяцев назад +5

    Imagine if they added achievement called beat Master trial on extreme

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +9

      That would be insane. The Platinum/100% completion rates for the game would drop like a rock

    • @Casual_guy1234
      @Casual_guy1234 10 месяцев назад

      They sure as hell shouldnt

  • @wesleyrafaelsantoscastro9751
    @wesleyrafaelsantoscastro9751 8 месяцев назад

    Man, all my respect and thanks to you. Because of your video I passed this trial after months of unsuccessful attempts.

  • @kao7143
    @kao7143 11 месяцев назад +4

    i respect the grind
    i would never do this though holy crap

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +7

      That’s why I’m here! To reach far across these new Frontiers. With my life I fight this fear. In my hands I hold the ones I love. Walk forward through the cold dawn. Always to new Horizons!

    • @whompothegoldminer
      @whompothegoldminer 11 месяцев назад +1

      Standing here, the way a heads been coming clear
      ALL ACROSS THESE NEW FRONTIEEERRS
      In my HANDS I hold the ones I looove
      Walk foward through the coold DAAAWN
      AAALWAYS TO NEEEW HORIZOOOOONS

  • @avenger3272
    @avenger3272 4 месяца назад

    Ive been practicing this trial in hard mode so that i can do extreme mode in the future. FYI, and I mean no disrespect to your impressive skills, but you could've tried using the criss cross slash more to get through the fights faster. I know it's hard to spam, but I have confidence you can get the hang of it.

  • @zeteasmall
    @zeteasmall 11 месяцев назад +2

    OMG YOU'RE A LIFE SAVER. Gained a subscriber!!! ^^

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +1

      And you're a legend! Thanks for the sub!

  • @Hypertonick
    @Hypertonick 11 месяцев назад +4

    Any tips for getting the parry timing on wyvern? 😅

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes! Check out my Hard Mode guide. I cover those windows extensively :)

    • @Hypertonick
      @Hypertonick 11 месяцев назад

      @@StickmanGuides thanks!

  • @sonicmastersword8080
    @sonicmastersword8080 3 месяца назад

    To my knowledge, the patch did not change it on extreme mode. 4 frames-that is all you get.

  • @Excalebar-kn1g4t
    @Excalebar-kn1g4t 11 месяцев назад +4

    Nice work! I gotta ask, how many tries till you perfected this?

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you! At least over 16 hours worth of tries lmao

    • @Excalebar-kn1g4t
      @Excalebar-kn1g4t 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@StickmanGuides 😮 you’re a trooper ma guy, we appreciate your content 🔥

  • @kostaunboxing
    @kostaunboxing 11 месяцев назад

    I said it for the supreme fight and again for this one, NAH BRO ACTUALLY DID IT! You got my respect for life.

  • @lgill6710
    @lgill6710 11 месяцев назад +1

    Stickman, you are one crazy guy. This is my worst nightmare 😅

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Believe me, this was so difficult even with the missile cheese

  • @dailymemesylyl
    @dailymemesylyl 11 месяцев назад +7

    WHY? Why would you do this to yourself? I tried to beat it in hard mode, and ultimately decided to set it on Easy. Seeing you do extreme is insane.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +1

      I’m pretty Extreme… and insane 😅

  • @randomgameplay6821
    @randomgameplay6821 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hello Stickman nice job on extream

  • @SuperVegitoIsTheBestCharacter
    @SuperVegitoIsTheBestCharacter Месяц назад

    What were they thinking when they thought every time you get touched by giganto, wyvern, or knight, you die?

  • @CSTH1
    @CSTH1 11 месяцев назад +3

    My man did it.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yessir Classic Sonic The Hedgehog!

  • @SNG4622
    @SNG4622 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like cyloop is just a get a dub free card

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      In many cases yes, Wyvern fight is the only exception

  • @uiunleashed2990
    @uiunleashed2990 11 месяцев назад +3

    A few questions. Not sure if it works in console, but when giganto is about to swing when you cyloop him in his second phase. How can you move? It locks me in place until he hits. Not only that when your doing the weird glitch thing with wyvern the moment you let go do you die, or get a small window to parry?

    • @crashslysonic777
      @crashslysonic777 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just saw the answer in another reply, plus tested it out for myself: you can move freely by parrying before Giganto attacks you

  • @EpicPlayzYT3
    @EpicPlayzYT3 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats bro

  • @RealmsSMPStudios
    @RealmsSMPStudios 5 месяцев назад +1

    I am currently playing this, I’m on attempt number 100 and have only been playing for like the past 3 hours…

  • @tamim1606
    @tamim1606 11 месяцев назад +2

    MAN I LOST MY DLC DATA AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME YKW I’M NOT PLAYING IT AGAIN AND THIS IS ALL BC OF THAT STUPID TRAIL I COULD’VE BEATEN THE GAME WITHOUT IT!

  • @gtcproductions4097
    @gtcproductions4097 11 месяцев назад +1

    So for the Knight, you HAVE to party the shield. Oh boy…

    • @Mrnoobestreturns
      @Mrnoobestreturns 11 месяцев назад +5

      Nah there is a way to beat Knight by not parrying at all.
      In second phase go where knight is going in a circle, and spam the sonic boom projectile.
      If you have 200 rings or above for this strategy, you can destroy knight second phase with the sonic boom projectile.

  • @vittosphonecollection57289
    @vittosphonecollection57289 6 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine the game crashing here: 15:09

    • @vittosphonecollection57289
      @vittosphonecollection57289 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the heart and congratulations because this looks nearly impossible!!

  • @blackheartaesthetic4432
    @blackheartaesthetic4432 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do you get anything for beating it on extreme mode?

  • @richardwhite8276
    @richardwhite8276 11 месяцев назад +1

    Finally beat it on extreme mode , took me 3 straight days of pain from wyvren

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад

      Absolute PAIN, but glad you got it over and done with!

  • @xenoultragod84
    @xenoultragod84 10 месяцев назад

    This video has given so much hope to beat the game

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  10 месяцев назад +2

      That's what I was hoping for! Good luck solider

  • @JUDE429
    @JUDE429 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just like we did in the livestream

  • @Dustin_Probably
    @Dustin_Probably Месяц назад +1

    Why aren’t wyvern’s missiles killing him?

  • @icards7986
    @icards7986 10 месяцев назад +1

    Was there some kind of cheese going on in the Wyvern fight?

  • @randomgameplay6821
    @randomgameplay6821 11 месяцев назад +3

    Are you planning to have a guide for the trial on extreme mode?

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +3

      I’m not sure since I have to start getting ready to cover Sonic Superstars very soon! Maybe sometime afterwards

    • @randomgameplay6821
      @randomgameplay6821 11 месяцев назад +1

      Alrighty by then I'll be waiting

  • @defectumdefectum9642
    @defectumdefectum9642 3 месяца назад

    update: i have beatred battlte rush in s rank thinking id unlock both expert and extreme at the same time. NOPE, u gotta do it one att a time lol. Oh well, atleast i got tthe hardest ones out of tthe way. tho my only worry is (and i hope u see this), do u think im no longer able to gett expert difficulty now that ive went straightt for the S ranks? if so, tthen ill just use a new unused save file and do the whole thing from A to S rank. But for now ill see if i can use the same file and get A rank on it despite showing S rank

  • @gangstashuckle
    @gangstashuckle 11 месяцев назад

    This is going to help me, as i’ve also screwed myself with extrene

  • @67-gorosaurus
    @67-gorosaurus 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bugs in wyvern. How?

  • @almir-chan9570
    @almir-chan9570 10 месяцев назад +1

    But for real though, what kind of name is "Master King" 💀

  • @lks19
    @lks19 4 месяца назад

    I'll never do this again.

  • @leasebergfladstad167
    @leasebergfladstad167 5 месяцев назад

    This is the hardest I ever played in Sonic games and impossible for me to win when Sonic only have 400 rings, can't get more rings after loosing rings and even have to start from beginning again when the player loose! Are there other alternate easy ways than just in easy mode to win this?

  • @wolef3344
    @wolef3344 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just wondering, is it true that extreme mode has a tighter parry than hard mode for this trial? I've heard people say this but the in-game description of extreme quotes "you are locked on the hardest difficulty" which makes it sound like extreme mode *is* hard mode, just with added quirks.

    • @lazykirby57
      @lazykirby57 11 месяцев назад

      Yep. It has a 4 frame window as opposed to hard mode's 8 frame window

  • @DataDigi151
    @DataDigi151 7 месяцев назад

    I dunno if you're still reading comments from these videos but do you happen to know if the perfect parry feels any easier/harder between 30 fps (PS4 & Switch) and 60 fps (PS5 & PC)? I've been doing this challenge on my own for a couple months now (still pre-patch) and I'm curious if the PS4's extreme mode perfect parry feels like the PS5's hard mode perfect parry or if it feels like the same difficulty regardless of fps.

  • @justinhuezo2262
    @justinhuezo2262 11 месяцев назад +1

    I finally beat the master king trial it took me 1000 time 1000 TIMES AND IT WAS HELL EVEN IN EXTREME MODE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @burp3267
    @burp3267 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dark soul frontiers be like:

  • @ilikethemanmelter
    @ilikethemanmelter 7 месяцев назад

    how did i JUST learn that you can cyloop the bosses without quick cyloop???

  • @ch62013
    @ch62013 10 месяцев назад +1

    How could you not being blown back by the missiles from the Wyvern?

    • @switchspeedster2671
      @switchspeedster2671 10 месяцев назад

      Holding the dodge button will grant invincibility

  • @math3us420
    @math3us420 10 месяцев назад

    gonna try this some time. I liked the boss rush

  • @Actually-Insane-
    @Actually-Insane- 11 месяцев назад

    major W man

  • @toadmations6086
    @toadmations6086 10 месяцев назад +1

    How are you going through the rockets?

  • @SupportTheLittleGuy
    @SupportTheLittleGuy 11 месяцев назад +1

    this is too extreme for me

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад

      Without the cheese, this was for me too LOL. And hey... I love your perfect sync Frontiers Final Boss video!

  • @XavierDaSalla
    @XavierDaSalla 10 месяцев назад

    How do you move right after using quick cyloop in Giganto's second phase? For me I get locked there and my only option is to parry(unless I'm missing something).

  • @jetza2635
    @jetza2635 11 месяцев назад +1

    How did you dodge the Wyvern claw swipes whats the strat

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Same thing for the rockets. Holding down RB or LB

    • @jetza2635
      @jetza2635 11 месяцев назад

      @@StickmanGuides oh I see thank you

  • @burp3267
    @burp3267 8 месяцев назад

    dont mind me, just truding this so i can know how i can beat the trial.
    (i was suffering on the first trial and then bodied the second one, and im on this one rn, soooo im studying)

    • @burp3267
      @burp3267 8 месяцев назад

      oh also, did you know, that if you lock onto the wyvern, you can just stomp and immediatley sidestep, and then stomp again? its almost exactly like giganto's thing

  • @BoltTheLion
    @BoltTheLion 10 месяцев назад

    I’m having so much trouble with Wyvern, I don’t know what to do..

  • @sourlab
    @sourlab 11 месяцев назад

    He is too powerful

  • @teamsonicchannel4400
    @teamsonicchannel4400 3 месяца назад

    why so much damage surely extremem mode should do less damage to the boss

  • @Reset2150676
    @Reset2150676 11 месяцев назад

    nice

  • @the_non-biased_one
    @the_non-biased_one 11 месяцев назад +1

    Aka suffering

  • @MrKaizoKong
    @MrKaizoKong 11 месяцев назад

    Wait...is this just us fighting the three titans again?

    • @ThesShadow
      @ThesShadow 11 месяцев назад +3

      No its very different/difficult, you get put at level 1 strength, perfect parry (very short parry you can't really hold) 400 rings for all 3 titans, no ring refills, and extreme mode includes no hits or its a game over. And on extreme the parry window is 0.14 seconds 💀 [and if you fail at any point its a full restart on the trial]

  • @jeffreywilliams8499
    @jeffreywilliams8499 11 месяцев назад

    King koco sucks because it doesn't give you a lot of rings

  • @JUDE429
    @JUDE429 11 месяцев назад

    Hi stickman

  • @MasterCoolPlayer56
    @MasterCoolPlayer56 3 месяца назад

    Say wht…how u did tht

  • @defectumdefectum9642
    @defectumdefectum9642 3 месяца назад

    Wait extreme mode? How?

    • @defectumdefectum9642
      @defectumdefectum9642 3 месяца назад

      If it’s a mod then I’ll try it out myself

    • @defectumdefectum9642
      @defectumdefectum9642 3 месяца назад

      Ok nvm you gotta S rank all battle rushes. That’s gonna be a pain in the &;) to do that.

  • @MEGADOMINIC_
    @MEGADOMINIC_ 11 месяцев назад

    How were you not taking damage from tre missiles???

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +8

      Mentioned in the pinned comment and description, but for some very weird reason, if you hold one of the parry buttons, that happens lol. I asked Kishimoto on Twitter if this was meant to happen or not, because while practicing for Extreme mode, I wanted to hold one bumper down so that if any projectile came at me, I would just have to tap the other and therefore my reactions would be much faster! Somehow I found out by doing that, you gain immunity to them lol

  • @Broliid
    @Broliid 11 месяцев назад

    hi

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hello :)

    • @Broliid
      @Broliid 11 месяцев назад

      omg hello!!@@StickmanGuides

  • @XJ9LoL
    @XJ9LoL 8 месяцев назад

    glitched run so who cares.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  8 месяцев назад +1

      I mostly did it to help out the unfortunate souls who picked extreme difficulty and can no longer get to the final boss lol

  • @MrSuperSonic1108
    @MrSuperSonic1108 3 месяца назад

    video is rigged (troll)

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  3 месяца назад

      learn to read pinned comments lol

    • @MrSuperSonic1108
      @MrSuperSonic1108 3 месяца назад

      @@StickmanGuides nah man it's just a troll sorry lmao. Ill change the message

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  3 месяца назад

      @@MrSuperSonic1108 oh lol mb