Steve this video explored a subject that I have thought about often, especially when out 4 wheeling in rough country. You just look around, and realize that 150 years ago brave everyday folks struggled as we cannot even imagine to cross difficult terrain with a wagon, livestock, children, and basically their whole lives inside a covered wagon.......man! Our ancestors were some tough SOB's and I ain't kidding! No wonder that reaching age 45 or 50, you were considered ancient back then. Even my Mom (who's 93) tells me about how she grew up, born in 1930, start of the Great Depression....it's enough to make me thankful for the modern comforts that I can enjoy in my old age!
Just want to say that I really appreciate and look forward to your videos. Excellent work, thank you so much for taking the time to put these together. I know a lot of work goes into each of these, but it really makes a difference. There is not a lot out there about Reno history and there really are a ton of great stories to tell!
Great video! I knew of the trail through the canyon but have never explored it as thoroughly as you have. I have explored the trails through Elko County and northwestern Washoe County, though. Fascinating stuff. Thank you, sir!
Now that is some awesome road-geeking right there! Love the channel, just need to book a room at Sorensens so I can spend some time on that trail without the family protest. Cheers! (hoisting an Independence day pale ale from Auburn Ale House).
Great vid, Steve! I've driven up and down that canyon, or whatever that road is from Tahoe to Carson City many times. It's kinda nuts to drive now and I can only imagine how tough it was for those immigrants getting up and down that steep incline!
Wow!!! I did a lot of this on the truckee route but know very little about the carson route. Just beautiful country and I wanna try to get up there this summer
Thanks you. Part Souix and and Scottish my ancestors have been here a long time and it warms my heart seeing the difficulties they endured. Humans are so adaptable, you get through difficulties because that is your only option.
Some of the best times I had, was working at Cal-Neva in Reno. I was living about four blocks from the Mizpah. Yes, it burned down when I lived there. 😞
Great video, I love that whole corridor along Carson Pass. There’s a lot of special history out there for sure! I will have to check out Tragedy Springs and the old road by Sorensen’s. Thanks for all the work put in on this one. I’m sure that porter was a nice treat afterward!
@@SteveTRYK Yes, all three marked on the earliest USGS map I could find dated 1889. ngmdb.usgs.gov/ht-bin/tv_browse.pl?id=7bcd93bf7c3ac91a05ea7cb1a35b9118
I would love to know the title of the painting and artists name also at about 5:30 in your video. I am always blown away by the views we get in places from the Sierra all the way across the central valley to the coast range. Very well done super informative video. Learned much.
That "emigrant writing" is still what remains from "some knucklehead who wrote on the wall." I'm an aficionado of the old Carretera Transpeninsular of Baja California, otherwise known as The Old Road that preceded the completion of the paving of the transpeninsular highway in 1973 and totally agree that there is "good graffiti." I knew the old road from having traveled it several times in my youth and today continue to visit sections of it in my 4 WD and know I've found the old road when I find graffiti with the appropriate dates.
There is a wall on the Oregon trail. Just where it leaves Wyoming and enters Idaho. Good water good grass and so the trains would stop and rest. Many went up and signed that wall. My father showed me that wall when I was a child. I think the most famous name on that wall is Kit Carson.
Watching this I was thankful that you never gave the GPS coordinates, and also that there aren't plaques at every one of these places, it seems the plaques draw vandals like poop draws flies. At least back then the graffiti was carved in:) I don't think the spray paint graffiti is going at last much more than 20 years. And that's a good thing. Thanks again...
Kudos- superbly done. Happy with the Snowshoe Thompson mention. Red’s 395 - I still have one of their T shirts - somewhere Question; What tribe was responsible for killing the 3 scouts? Seems unlikely that’s it would be Washoes. As I remember, they didn’t get much beyond Woodfords.
Good job on the history except you left out “Devils ladder”. That was the hardest part to overcome. The snow may have been too deep to reach and show that part of the trail.
Would love to see some of that graffiti myself, but not the most able-bodied hiker, especially at elevations higher than Reno. Looks like that second set can be accessible by 4x4?
If you were on the Calif Trail thru Southern Utah, be it thru the trail described by John C Fremont passing thru "the Mountain Meadow" or, after the Mountain Meadow Massacre, using the road west of MMM and into Washington/ Saint George (yet to be in 1857) That area had to be the most miserable stretch. At Peters Leap, wagons had to be lowered down.... This allowed the Mormons to control the road absolutely. (in 1844 Fremont was moving south on the eastern Sierra Mtns when a soldier just road up, gave JCF a note and JCF said we are going to Sutter. They proceeded to go north, past Fales Hot Springs, and down the American River. In JANUARY. With a Canon. They had to abandon it. The cartographer, Preuss, was in charge of it for some odd reason. Pretty wild stuff). I live about 30 miles west of Tragedy Springs, near Sutter Creek. The Fire was 3 yrs ago. Burned Everything between 88and 50 and east to Tahoe!!! Omo Ranch aka Grizzly Flat fire. residents on local news said "Cal Fire told us they had the fire under control when The Fed ordered them out and then the fire exploded". Same as the recent Creek Fire that burned the entire San Joaquin River drainage, 700K acres. Genoa Nv was est buy Mormons but were ordered by Brigham Young to move to Utah in 1857, in context of Mountain Meadows Massacre. Trying to establish empire, Genoa was the western edge of the Mormon Nation of Deseret.
Actually, it was members of the Mormon Battalion who found the gold, but Marshall was the one who started talking about it. The Mormons wrote Brigham Young, asking if they should stay and collect gold, and he told them to come to Utah. Those who had faith turned their backs on wealth, and some would talk about it, years later, saying that they were more blessed by obedience than if they had stayed to follow gold. The Gold Rush made Salt Lake City and other parts of "Deseret" prosper -- often as emigrants abandoned heavy items such as stoves and other belongings on the eastern side of the Rockies. The Mormons gathered these, carried to the western side of the mountains, and either put them to use or sold them to emigrants (who expected to be able to carry them the rest of the way to the gold fields). There may still be relics sunken under the ground in places like Forty Mile, abandoned again.
Haven't heard about the capital relocating. I think Vegas would get first dibs! Yes, large swaths near downtown are getting bought up (incl. the Gold and Silver.)
@@SteveTRYK Some are territory markers, specially those down around 4 corners, but some are also markers showing a spot to kill elk and kind of bragging how many they killed. But some like at the top of the head waters of all forks of the Yuba may be gold markers. Some surely are. Some mark the area of a large gold find that was too hard to mine and is still there and there are glyphs all over that area.
PS You're not an old man, you don't look a day over 55! And this is coming from someone looking back at 55. Quite a ways back. I get winded watching videos.
meanwhile instead of talking about the trail all the other history is neglected including the taking of lands from the natives living there and the cult mormons were the worst
The thing I like about your videos most, is your reputation to deliver accurate historical accounts and just keeping it real.
Thanks! Appreciate your comments!
Great video buddy 👍 Happy New Year my friend 🌲🎆🎇
Thanks! You too!
Ooo thank you for taking us along. We used to drive our Model A’s down the Emigrant Trail and cut off but you brought history to life. Thank you❤
Thanks for watching! Cool cars!
Steve this video explored a subject that I have thought about often, especially when out 4 wheeling in rough country. You just look around, and realize that 150 years ago brave everyday folks struggled as we cannot even imagine to cross difficult terrain with a wagon, livestock, children, and basically their whole lives inside a covered wagon.......man! Our ancestors were some tough SOB's and I ain't kidding! No wonder that reaching age 45 or 50, you were considered ancient back then. Even my Mom (who's 93) tells me about how she grew up, born in 1930, start of the Great Depression....it's enough to make me thankful for the modern comforts that I can enjoy in my old age!
We take so much for granted. Thanks for watching!
Great work doing this video under difficult conditions! Thanks for these fascinating trips into the past.
Thanx for your viewership!
Carson canyon from Woodfords..your welcome. I Reclaimed the whole trail to Sorensons..it's what I do..
The challenge you found schlepping just you and your camera on the trail demonstrates these folks' torturous trek - thanks for taking us along!
Thanks!
What a great video. I've never thought to walk around and find the trail for a hike. Now I will have to do that, just in the summer.
Just want to say that I really appreciate and look forward to your videos. Excellent work, thank you so much for taking the time to put these together. I know a lot of work goes into each of these, but it really makes a difference. There is not a lot out there about Reno history and there really are a ton of great stories to tell!
I enjoy doing it! Thanks for the comments and for watching!
Mannnnn I love that opening 🎸☄️🤘Van Halen forever 🌋
Great video buddy ✌️💙
Thanks for hanging out! Rock on!
Great video! I knew of the trail through the canyon but have never explored it as thoroughly as you have. I have explored the trails through Elko County and northwestern Washoe County, though. Fascinating stuff. Thank you, sir!
Cheers and glad you liked!!
Now that is some awesome road-geeking right there! Love the channel, just need to book a room at Sorensens so I can spend some time on that trail without the family protest. Cheers! (hoisting an Independence day pale ale from Auburn Ale House).
Hell yeah! Great beer and public house - cheers!
Great video!! 🙏🏽
Thank you 🙌
Great vid, Steve! I've driven up and down that canyon, or whatever that road is from Tahoe to Carson City many times. It's kinda nuts to drive now and I can only imagine how tough it was for those immigrants getting up and down that steep incline!
They were tougher than all of us! Thanks!
Great video, nice looking hiking spot Thanks
It's a great day trip! Thanks!
Wow!!! I did a lot of this on the truckee route but know very little about the carson route. Just beautiful country and I wanna try to get up there this summer
You'll have fun!
Thanks you. Part Souix and and Scottish my ancestors have been here a long time and it warms my heart seeing the difficulties they endured. Humans are so adaptable, you get through difficulties because that is your only option.
We lead a comparatively comfortable life! The more I research the more in honor I am of these folks.
Thanks for posting!
You bet!
Some of the best times I had, was working at Cal-Neva in Reno. I was living about four blocks from the Mizpah. Yes, it burned down when I lived there. 😞
Sad day for sure.
Thanks for another great discourse! Can't wait until next summer to visit those locations myself!
Have fun!
Great video! 😊
Thanks! 😊
Fantastic videos
Glad you like them!
Great video, I love that whole corridor along Carson Pass. There’s a lot of special history out there for sure! I will have to check out Tragedy Springs and the old road by Sorensen’s. Thanks for all the work put in on this one. I’m sure that porter was a nice treat afterward!
Thanks for the viewership! Cheers!
Superb video, just superb. I never knew anything about the area even though I have driven through it a few times.
Thank you.....
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
I was told there are three valleys -- Faith, Hope and Charity -- right?
Could be but I don't know of Faith and Charity! Post back if you map them!
@@SteveTRYK Yes, all three marked on the earliest USGS map I could find dated 1889.
ngmdb.usgs.gov/ht-bin/tv_browse.pl?id=7bcd93bf7c3ac91a05ea7cb1a35b9118
I would love to know the title of the painting and artists name also at about 5:30 in your video. I am always blown away by the views we get in places from the Sierra all the way across the central valley to the coast range. Very well done super informative video. Learned much.
"Pioneers entering the Salt Lake Valley" by King Driggs. I think it's in an LDS collection. Thanks!
I'm in this area and have not seen a lot of what you cover in your vids. "So you don't have to" Thanks!!!
But you could if you wanted! ;-) Cheers!
It's amazing the axle grease markings are still there, thanks for showing that@@SteveTRYK
My secret stomping grounds. Thanks for posting.
On my last visit I thought they were secret too - now interpretive signs are popping up!
That "emigrant writing" is still what remains from "some knucklehead who wrote on the wall." I'm an aficionado of the old Carretera Transpeninsular of Baja California, otherwise known as The Old Road that preceded the completion of the paving of the transpeninsular highway in 1973 and totally agree that there is "good graffiti." I knew the old road from having traveled it several times in my youth and today continue to visit sections of it in my 4 WD and know I've found the old road when I find graffiti with the appropriate dates.
Nice!
There is a wall on the Oregon trail. Just where it leaves Wyoming and enters Idaho. Good water good grass and so the trains would stop and rest. Many went up and signed that wall. My father showed me that wall when I was a child. I think the most famous name on that wall is Kit Carson.
I have visited a place called Register Rock - perhaps this is the same location. Thanks for watching!
Viva Los Basques!!! Elko, maing! 😁
Love me some Elko!
Watching this I was thankful that you never gave the GPS coordinates, and also that there aren't plaques at every one of these places, it seems the plaques draw vandals like poop draws flies. At least back then the graffiti was carved in:) I don't think the spray paint graffiti is going at last much more than 20 years. And that's a good thing. Thanks again...
Good stuff...on the pc question of language descriptors, "native-american" or "indigenous" seems a more historically accurate option.
True - they carved Indians on the tree memorial, so I'm going with that! Cheers!
Kudos- superbly done. Happy with the Snowshoe Thompson mention.
Red’s 395 - I still have one of their T shirts - somewhere
Question; What tribe was responsible for killing the 3 scouts? Seems unlikely that’s it would be Washoes. As I remember, they didn’t get much beyond Woodfords.
Thanks! I don't know if the tribe affiliation was ever recorded. Someone?
@@SteveTRYK I suspect Miwok. Likely since the scouts were passing through Miwok territory.
Ur cool 😎 man
Cheers!
Good job on the history except you left out “Devils ladder”. That was the hardest part to overcome. The snow may have been too deep to reach and show that part of the trail.
We'll be seeing that in a future installment - too snowy to make that hike in December. Cheers!
Would love to see some of that graffiti myself, but not the most able-bodied hiker, especially at elevations higher than Reno. Looks like that second set can be accessible by 4x4?
In the absence of snow you can easily walk or drive in after you check in at the office.
If you were on the Calif Trail thru Southern Utah, be it thru the trail described by John C Fremont passing thru "the Mountain Meadow" or, after the Mountain Meadow Massacre, using the road west of MMM and into Washington/ Saint George (yet to be in 1857) That area had to be the most miserable stretch. At Peters Leap, wagons had to be lowered down.... This allowed the Mormons to control the road absolutely. (in 1844 Fremont was moving south on the eastern Sierra Mtns when a soldier just road up, gave JCF a note and JCF said we are going to Sutter. They proceeded to go north, past Fales Hot Springs, and down the American River. In JANUARY. With a Canon. They had to abandon it. The cartographer, Preuss, was in charge of it for some odd reason. Pretty wild stuff). I live about 30 miles west of Tragedy Springs, near Sutter Creek. The Fire was 3 yrs ago. Burned Everything between 88and 50 and east to Tahoe!!! Omo Ranch aka Grizzly Flat fire. residents on local news said "Cal Fire told us they had the fire under control when The Fed ordered them out and then the fire exploded". Same as the recent Creek Fire that burned the entire San Joaquin River drainage, 700K acres. Genoa Nv was est buy Mormons but were ordered by Brigham Young to move to Utah in 1857, in context of Mountain Meadows Massacre. Trying to establish empire, Genoa was the western edge of the Mormon Nation of Deseret.
Lots of info - thanx!
#caldorfire burned that out at Tradjedy springs in 21..
I know the area well.
it is Sierra.. not Sierras unless there are two people named Sierra standing next to each other
Actually, it was members of the Mormon Battalion who found the gold, but Marshall was the one who started talking about it. The Mormons wrote Brigham Young, asking if they should stay and collect gold, and he told them to come to Utah. Those who had faith turned their backs on wealth, and some would talk about it, years later, saying that they were more blessed by obedience than if they had stayed to follow gold.
The Gold Rush made Salt Lake City and other parts of "Deseret" prosper -- often as emigrants abandoned heavy items such as stoves and other belongings on the eastern side of the Rockies. The Mormons gathered these, carried to the western side of the mountains, and either put them to use or sold them to emigrants (who expected to be able to carry them the rest of the way to the gold fields). There may still be relics sunken under the ground in places like Forty Mile, abandoned again.
Marketing is everything! Cheers!
Did you hear Reno will be the new capital? Reno has the gold n Silver. Have you heard of building or big lots getting bought
Haven't heard about the capital relocating. I think Vegas would get first dibs! Yes, large swaths near downtown are getting bought up (incl. the Gold and Silver.)
Immigration, Immigrants
"I". (it's one of those words that trip up folks, sorta like Desert and Dessert, that latter is an after dinner treat.) 😉
Petroglyphs are just ancient graffiti.
Yes they are!!
@@SteveTRYK Some are territory markers, specially those down around 4 corners, but some are also markers showing a spot to kill elk and kind of bragging how many they killed. But some like at the top of the head waters of all forks of the Yuba may be gold markers. Some surely are. Some mark the area of a large gold find that was too hard to mine and is still there and there are glyphs all over that area.
PS You're not an old man, you don't look a day over 55! And this is coming from someone looking back at 55. Quite a ways back. I get winded watching videos.
Thanks - it's the craft beer - it acts as a preservative.
meanwhile instead of talking about the trail all the other history is neglected including the taking of lands from the natives living there and the cult mormons were the worst
bet you're fun to hang around with