I absolutely love it as well. I'm a huge Trace Rifle fan, and have been using double special loadouts with them as the add clear weapon for the last few seasons, so even though i was a little disappointed that this thing wasn't stasis or Strand, I was incredibly happy when my second ever roll was Reconstruction/Target Lock. I'm only 1 away from being able to craft it, and when I do, I think I'll have a Recon/Target Lock, and maybe even a Rewind Rounds or Recon/Incandescent. The only thing that has me debating crafting a second one, is the fact my Retraced Path has Enhanced Subsistence/Enhanced Incandescent and I love that thing. The only reason I would make a 2nd Acasias is because I love the whole aesthetic package of the gun more than the Retraced Path
@@carryofallcarrieslol5338 A well rolled sidearm will have a ttk of like 0.6 sec, which is the same as this trace with a damage buff active, but at over twice the range. With a base load of 50 shots, you can kill all 3 and one overshield if you're good enough. Don't count on it tho. Two of the damage perks activate when you get a kill with anything other than this weapon, Harmony when you get a matching kill, and Paracausal Affinity when you get a Light kill so either Harmony and Solar, or arc/void... A gun with Osmosis in your kinetic slot can do this, so can abilities. If you trigger one, you can kill the other two in about 20 out of 50 shots. Is your aim good enough? Do you have a pro drummer's rhythm so you don't waste ammo? It's much better than any handgun in the game until you run dry. One advantage is that it's awfully silent from the enemy POV if you're far away.
Around 1:05 No, the numbers should not be flipped. The precision hit multiplier is decreasing, but the base damage is increasing so you still end up with a higher crit damage, so 16.9 will be the new crit damage
For PvP I've actually got some good mileage out of High-Impact Reserves, it's hard mathematically to look at how much it's doing as you spawn with 50 rounds so it starts with the damage buff active and increasing with every shot. What I do know for sure is that the optimal ttk with a post-mid patch trace is 0.73s and requires 12 crits against 9/10 resil. With HIR it changes that requirement to 10 crits and 2 body for the optimal ttk against max resil guardians. I personally think this change in crit:body ratio for optimal ttk justifies the use of HIR. (More maths below) HIR also guarantees the kill against 8 or less resil guardians in 9 crits and 3 body. After the buff to precision damage in the mid-season patch by 0.1, in combination with HIR, this allows it to kill in 11 crits vs 6 or less resil for a 0.67s ttk. Can I say for sure this is the best pvp perk in the fourth column? Of course I can't, i just value perks that help you get the first kill, not the subsequent kill.
been waiting for this one, got lucky with my first drop having keep away and paracausal. fell in love with it in PvP, beaming people from pulse rifle ranges feels so good. Definitely my recommend if you want a pvp roll
I knew this thing would be a hidden gem when I saw that it rolled with keep away and target lock with that stability stat. I'm also not surprised to see you being one of the only people covering it lol.
I always used to run Aeger's Scepter + Catty for some plan B boss damage. This now does that for me! Thought obviously not as much, but with target lock and reconstruction/rewind rounds I'm finding good supplemental damage on bosses. Love this thing. Great in PvP too.
Great video, thanks for the break down on all the perks, seems like there are a lot of decent combinations , since I mostly do PvE I'm gonna go with Rewind & Enhanced Incandescent
Just to clarify on the 16.8 vs 16.9 confusion at the 1:10 mark: The values Bungie listed are correct despite the easily misunderstood wordage. The original base damage of 12 multiplied by the original crit multiplier of 1.4 is indeed 16.8 and the new damage of 12.5 multiplied by the new crit multiplier of 1.35 is 16.875. so despite the crit multiplier going down, the crit damage is increased after the change.
So I think you are missing a key point about the crafted enhanced HiR version of this weapon in PvP. The enhanced version makes it so that you get the damage at 57.85% of your mag. Since you have 97 regularly and spawn with 50 rounds, you are under this threshold. Because of this you start off killing 5 RES and lower with a .67 TTK Get one kill then this extends to 6 RES. This goes until 8 RES per kill or 11ish ammo.
I have enhanced Subsistence / enhanced Incandescent on my crafted Retraced Path so I’m gonna roll Rewind / Target Lock on Acasia’s to cover other scenarios. it’s a great model too, the scope is so clean! also, Reconstruction only loads rounds into the magazine when the gun is NOT firing. so the gun can refill when it’s stowed or pulled out, just not while firing.
I got rewind target lock for my first one. I dig it, man. Way fun trace. I think rw/incandescent is the play though. Can't wait to be able to craft one!
I’m shocked people would take this route when Retraced Patch already rolls Subsistence/Incandescent. This trace offers so many more unique perks Incan is a waste imo
I actually got this from my Challenge run Corckscrew/Extended + Tactical/ Ionised + Rewind + Incandescent. I was looking at reconstruction but if the scorch ticks work with rewind I'm genuinly so glad I got this thing to drop now!
The numbers for Crit damage are NOT flipped. You need to use the new Crit multiplier for the new body shot damage. New/new vs old/old. A buff to the body shot damage and nerf to Crit multiplier still makes it higher, to keep the same sort of headshot performance on the high end, but make it more forgiving
I think theres no deepsight protection that reduces the drop rates of completed weapons for this raid. So keep that in mind if you decide to complete a weapon.
Rewind incandescent really seems like the play for what it gives, after the weapon buffs if traces and double special still stand at the top I think this is the play Retraced path should probably be used for demo now since thats the only trace that can do it
@@UsernameXOXO also true, though at the high end activities without famine you might be better off with rewind rounds Personally I don't like crafting 2 of the same weapon so I'd just stick to an adaptive munitions demo retraced path for utility and acasias would be proper ad clear
I have a fully crafted Retrace Path, other than target lock on this gun I fail to find much need in crafting this weapon. Bungie should have included lead from gold on the third column to actually make this gun an improvement upon RP.
Sorry, Rewind + Target Lock is the play. Hits as much as what a Retrofit Escapade can do in same scenarios after testing. Which means you could completely make Heavy a fast Autoloading rocket or combine with Parasyte solo. Well+ Parasyte + Acasia with RR+ TL made solo Akelos crazy easy.
I think this is what I'm going for. I just got my last red border and I love trace rifles for ad clear, but it's hard to justify using them against the beefier targets. With the combo you mentioned, I feel like it pushes this trace rifle into a category few others can reach and can make it a true ad killing machine, while still leaving you with another special weapon for big DPS
Incandescent with well and the fragment that causes ignitions on solar super kill and the one that applies scorch stacks with ignitions. Kill one add and apply scorch to nearby enemies if they don’t die from the first ignition they probably will from the chain of ignitions that would follow
Whoa. I didn't even think of Rewind Rounds and Incandescent. Now that is a sexy add clearing weapon and in some instances that will serve you much better than hard hitting, boss killers.
Reconstruction+incandescentis it for me, because arguably it works to freaking good for what I want from a trace. I can use it to run double special for when I play warlock in a raid, quick burst from the trace get a couple kills which proc incandescent, grab orbs to proc solar boost, use abilities to ad clear if needed, quick burst from trace again, repeat. Never have to reload as long as i manage my abilities well.
Field prep + frenzy/paracausal is great for double special builds. It does double damage on my titan (frenzy+path of burning steps+radiant+solar surge mod and solar surge at base in some activities on curtain weeks). That a hell of a damage there.
That's what I crafted. It's a better Retraced Path with Substistance/Incandescent which had been my goto primairy(I know it's a special but come on, double special with a trace is amazing) for 2 seasons now and it's been replaced this since I got that roll in my day 1 clear and then enhanced when I crafted it this week finally. Now if we could only get a better void trace with Volitile Flow and Repulser Brace(or rewind/subsistance/recom) which would have been amazing with this season's artifact mods.
With the new adept changes for ron weapons the adept variant can land 100 on stability, recoil direction, and range. Moreover, it also has the default 100 AA, making it possible to land 100s on four stats. With nearly 40m effective range and cranked out stability i find it really funny to use
Not high impact reserves for PVP? It will almost always be up, especially enhanced, and with the admittedly small damage buff coming I think it could be really good. More damage all the time cant be bad.
Yeah, it's redundant to get incandescent on Acasia's Dejection if you have Retraced path with Incandescent/Subsistence. It's not that much better so I build it for single target damage.
With Rewind Rounds, assuming you hit all shots and have a 104 mag, you can get 149 total bonus shots, for a total of 253 without reloading (minimum is 101 bonus for 205 total, so you'll get somewhere in that range, probably 225-230)- and that's with REGULAR Rewind Rounds... and Enhanced says it reloads MORE than that!
I can't wait to craft this thing and then have a solar focused season. I mean this season is kinda solar focused but it's really about void right now. Which is why my hollow denial has gained like 10k kills in the past month lol. My go to load out has been conditional finality, hollow denial, and commemoration. Sometimes riptide or a blinding Gl, wavesplitter, commemoration. But I am loving using trace rifles finally. And conditional finality is just an awesome weapon. It's not amazing at anything but it does everything. PvP or PvE it just works. I hope it gets a catalyst or something to make it even better. It's nice having a raid exotic that is getting lots of use. Anyways as for trace rifles in PvP I think they are finally at that point where they are good but not amazing but not weird to use either. I still prefer my Lodbrok-c with kill clip or target lock. Seriously not enough people are using this auto it's stupid good. But I'm happy with where trace rifles are.
I went with Rewind + Target Lock on mine for now. I already have a Subsistence + Incandescent Retraced Path so I really didn't think I needed another Incan trace. The one thing I haven't loved about traces yet is their single target damage against majors and minibosses, I feel like I'm wasting most of my ammo on them. So that's the idea for Target Lock, not for actual boss DPS. Still haven't used it enough to see if I like it yet because of how strong void and strand weapons are from the artifact though.
@coolguygames I wanted to go back to this video to see if you considered Keep away + High Impact Reserves for Crucible? I feel like it should absolutely shred. I recently started to use some of the exotic traces and wow can they duel
The crit damage numbers aren't flipped. It's going from 12×1.4=16.8 to 12.5×1.35=16.9 If they didn't scale down the multiplier, it would become 12.5×1.4=17.5 They're buffing bodyshot damage without boosting crit damage too much.
Rewind rounds works off of hits, and normally the thing that limits that perk is the diminishing returns it provides. I assume the reason you can get so much more ammo off of incandescent rewind is because incandescent works around the ammo limitation & secures more hits than you actually have the ammo capacity to hit directly
I really think you underrated enhanced hip fire. it's completely different to normal and it's built different compared to every other perk in the game. there's nothing like it
Hey coolguy! I’ve been meaning to ask about your general thoughts on class balance right now. I’ve seen you tinker on your warlock and then pop back on your hunter. I’ve also been seeing people everywhere say titan. Also if I can be cheeky and ask when are you making a video about strafe again in destiny. I know ur a halo strafe demon! Take care and keep up the great content :) Edit* anyone who has insights on that high mobility or even low mobility stafe game please share ur wisdom
I recommend crafting Acasia's Dejection as a dmg dealing trace since you can already get retraced path with incandesent anyway so it would be a waste of its potential. Why have 2 trace of the same type with same perks in the vault if you can craft 1 for ad clear and the other for anything else. My personal roll will probably be reconstruction and paracausal affinity.
Dont discount vorpal in situations with no ads to activate the other 2 perks vorpal is still a respectable boost. I use it in spire against the eyes completely shreds them.
I got reconstruction/ target lock for my first drop, very happy with it, fun gun to point and forget . Double mags is great aswell . Don't think I'd run enough to craft so happy with my RNG on this one . Great video coolguy
There’s no point in crafting this over retraced path if you already have that. Retraced path has “one for all” which is a better damage perk and it can too roll with incandescent. If bungie really wanted to push this trace over retraced then they should have put “incandescent” in the left column.
rewind + target lock seems the best for boss DPS, because if you hit all rounds its almost as many shots as reconstruction before a reload and more after the first one though im looking more at the auto rifle for that, cause that could be cool if you run out of ammo you could just switch to it
@@rockstarskinnys3370 im not which is why im crafting it on an auto, so that i can use it as backup to swap to if i run out of all other ammo though on the trace it could be good for champions with double special
Idk, Keep Away Target Lock feels really good for dueling and for Supers, and I bet enhanced KA feels even better. Love knocking down immortal users in half a second lmao
What's a good way to balance special economy if I can ask? Got a Envious Assassin and Paracausal Affinity roll on a Adept and I want to pair it with Conditional Finality for some PvE builds going forward since I have a huge love for both weapons right now.
I recently got into traces for pvp with this thing and have been trying to find my go to pvp. Seeing that this gun has best stats in class but im still trying to figure if its worth running over say and exotic trace? which one would be go to for pvp (legendary or exotic)?
I mean, it's nice, but if you already have a good (or great, crafted) Retraced, it's hard to see prioritizing this. There are just too many other weapons to prioritize over the grind/benefit of this.
Old-12 body/16.8 head New-12.5 body/16.875 head A buff of 4.17% body/ 0.446% head The crit multiplier reduction was dumb- half of a percent (0.075 dmg)?! 🙄 They'd have went to 17.5 crit dmg without it- TTK would remain 0.73s at ≥6 Resil, and dropped to 0.66 for ≤5 Resil
Coming only from the PvE side, I own a Shoot to Loot G.Tricorn Retraced, and with the STL change upcoming, I just have.. no reason to care about this trace unfortunately. Nothing Acasias does, Retraced can do just as well, aside from having an adept mod :
I think if you are going the enhanced incandescent route then you are better off with the Retraced Path since you can craft it with subsistence which will be overall better than any of the magazine boosting perks Acasia has access to. Subsistence reloads 10% (20% if enhanced) of your magazine per kill (and incandescent/scorch kills count too) meaning you will struggle to ever need to reload before you run out of reserves. I'll still be on the lookout for some nice unique adept rolls of Acasia as you can get some very nice min-max stats once you factor in adept mods and when we can recraft the barrels/mags/etc. on them.
if you use sidearms a lot, Mykels is pretty sick. if you’re like me and don’t use sidearms at all, go with the Acasia’s Dejection or Briar’s Contempt. if you don’t have a good First In, Last Out, go for Nessa’s Oblation.
Love this thing! I plan to *hopefully* get an adept with some other rolls and go form there.
I absolutely love it as well. I'm a huge Trace Rifle fan, and have been using double special loadouts with them as the add clear weapon for the last few seasons, so even though i was a little disappointed that this thing wasn't stasis or Strand, I was incredibly happy when my second ever roll was Reconstruction/Target Lock. I'm only 1 away from being able to craft it, and when I do, I think I'll have a Recon/Target Lock, and maybe even a Rewind Rounds or Recon/Incandescent.
The only thing that has me debating crafting a second one, is the fact my Retraced Path has Enhanced Subsistence/Enhanced Incandescent and I love that thing.
The only reason I would make a 2nd Acasias is because I love the whole aesthetic package of the gun more than the Retraced Path
Is it worth using this in trials over a well rolled sidearm?
@@carryofallcarrieslol5338 A well rolled sidearm will have a ttk of like 0.6 sec, which is the same as this trace with a damage buff active, but at over twice the range.
With a base load of 50 shots, you can kill all 3 and one overshield if you're good enough. Don't count on it tho.
Two of the damage perks activate when you get a kill with anything other than this weapon, Harmony when you get a matching kill, and Paracausal Affinity when you get a Light kill so either Harmony and Solar, or arc/void... A gun with Osmosis in your kinetic slot can do this, so can abilities. If you trigger one, you can kill the other two in about 20 out of 50 shots.
Is your aim good enough? Do you have a pro drummer's rhythm so you don't waste ammo? It's much better than any handgun in the game until you run dry. One advantage is that it's awfully silent from the enemy POV if you're far away.
Yada yada yada trace rifle... but why are you running beyond light content -.-
Inb4 swash biting winds
Around 1:05
No, the numbers should not be flipped. The precision hit multiplier is decreasing, but the base damage is increasing so you still end up with a higher crit damage, so 16.9 will be the new crit damage
Was just about to correct him then saw your comment haha
4:21 fyi, Reconstruction doesn't reload while you are firing, it only kicks in after a short time of not firing it
For PvP I've actually got some good mileage out of High-Impact Reserves, it's hard mathematically to look at how much it's doing as you spawn with 50 rounds so it starts with the damage buff active and increasing with every shot.
What I do know for sure is that the optimal ttk with a post-mid patch trace is 0.73s and requires 12 crits against 9/10 resil. With HIR it changes that requirement to 10 crits and 2 body for the optimal ttk against max resil guardians.
I personally think this change in crit:body ratio for optimal ttk justifies the use of HIR.
(More maths below)
HIR also guarantees the kill against 8 or less resil guardians in 9 crits and 3 body.
After the buff to precision damage in the mid-season patch by 0.1, in combination with HIR, this allows it to kill in 11 crits vs 6 or less resil for a 0.67s ttk.
Can I say for sure this is the best pvp perk in the fourth column? Of course I can't, i just value perks that help you get the first kill, not the subsequent kill.
been waiting for this one, got lucky with my first drop having keep away and paracausal. fell in love with it in PvP, beaming people from pulse rifle ranges feels so good. Definitely my recommend if you want a pvp roll
I knew this thing would be a hidden gem when I saw that it rolled with keep away and target lock with that stability stat. I'm also not surprised to see you being one of the only people covering it lol.
Peeped you in IB yesterday and figured this vid was soon. Always a joy to match with you
I was honestly waiting for this review.
Saame! :)
I always used to run Aeger's Scepter + Catty for some plan B boss damage. This now does that for me! Thought obviously not as much, but with target lock and reconstruction/rewind rounds I'm finding good supplemental damage on bosses.
Love this thing. Great in PvP too.
If you don't have retraced paths with incandescent than sure do it on this one, but it has other perk combos that I think are more enticing
Had no clue about the incandescent interaction, that’s actually huge
Great video, thanks for the break down on all the perks, seems like there are a lot of decent combinations , since I mostly do PvE I'm gonna go with Rewind & Enhanced Incandescent
Enhanced reconstruction and enhanced incandescent/enhanced paracausal on the adept version going to go ham
Reconstruction is kind of bad. it's 10 ammo every 3.6 sec, that means 7.2 sec for a kill if you don't have an active damage trait.
@@UsernameXOXO It's only bad if you're running double specials and using the trace as your primary.
i got the adept version of reconstruction and incandescent
@@UsernameXOXO your tripping
U can’t craft the adept versions
Just to clarify on the 16.8 vs 16.9 confusion at the 1:10 mark: The values Bungie listed are correct despite the easily misunderstood wordage. The original base damage of 12 multiplied by the original crit multiplier of 1.4 is indeed 16.8 and the new damage of 12.5 multiplied by the new crit multiplier of 1.35 is 16.875. so despite the crit multiplier going down, the crit damage is increased after the change.
So I think you are missing a key point about the crafted enhanced HiR version of this weapon in PvP.
The enhanced version makes it so that you get the damage at 57.85% of your mag. Since you have 97 regularly and spawn with 50 rounds, you are under this threshold. Because of this you start off killing 5 RES and lower with a .67 TTK
Get one kill then this extends to 6 RES. This goes until 8 RES per kill or 11ish ammo.
I have enhanced Subsistence / enhanced Incandescent on my crafted Retraced Path so I’m gonna roll Rewind / Target Lock on Acasia’s to cover other scenarios. it’s a great model too, the scope is so clean!
also, Reconstruction only loads rounds into the magazine when the gun is NOT firing. so the gun can refill when it’s stowed or pulled out, just not while firing.
After messing with wave splitter, this trace is in my crafting list
I got rewind target lock for my first one. I dig it, man. Way fun trace. I think rw/incandescent is the play though. Can't wait to be able to craft one!
I just dismantled that same role yesterday 😢
@Thomas Odisho nooooo! That sucks! It's so nice. Hopefully you land another one!
I’m shocked people would take this route when Retraced Patch already rolls Subsistence/Incandescent.
This trace offers so many more unique perks Incan is a waste imo
@AndJusticeforAll567 I get that. I love my rwr/tl. It's definitely not going anywhere haha!
@@forrestboel4795 thanks 🙏
I actually got this from my Challenge run Corckscrew/Extended + Tactical/ Ionised + Rewind + Incandescent. I was looking at reconstruction but if the scorch ticks work with rewind I'm genuinly so glad I got this thing to drop now!
Oh, and range MW
Got adept PM, target lock can’t wait to use in pvp
The numbers for Crit damage are NOT flipped. You need to use the new Crit multiplier for the new body shot damage. New/new vs old/old. A buff to the body shot damage and nerf to Crit multiplier still makes it higher, to keep the same sort of headshot performance on the high end, but make it more forgiving
It's cool this review came out today, because I just got an adept with reconstruction and incandescent.
The Focus Rifle from Reach is either incredibly proud or incredibly jealous of its grandchildren
Rewind incandescent is basically legendary prometeus
I wish Actium War Rig worked with trace rifles as well
Would be a better option if they make a new exceptional that bust trace rifle for warlocks
I think theres no deepsight protection that reduces the drop rates of completed weapons for this raid. So keep that in mind if you decide to complete a weapon.
red borders won’t drop for weapons you’ve already gotten all 5 for.
Worth knowing Retraced Path dropped harmony after the update to Dares weapons and the raid trace picked it up, with better stats.
Rewind incandescent really seems like the play for what it gives, after the weapon buffs if traces and double special still stand at the top I think this is the play
Retraced path should probably be used for demo now since thats the only trace that can do it
in PVE I think retraced path is better for incan, subsistence is better than any of the reload perks that this one can get.
@@UsernameXOXO also true, though at the high end activities without famine you might be better off with rewind rounds
Personally I don't like crafting 2 of the same weapon so I'd just stick to an adaptive munitions demo retraced path for utility and acasias would be proper ad clear
@@AutistiCat2406 hmm, does adaptive munitions actually change the element? As in, does it always pop an orb? Because that's busted.
I have a fully crafted Retrace Path, other than target lock on this gun I fail to find much need in crafting this weapon. Bungie should have included lead from gold on the third column to actually make this gun an improvement upon RP.
Sorry, Rewind + Target Lock is the play. Hits as much as what a Retrofit Escapade can do in same scenarios after testing. Which means you could completely make Heavy a fast Autoloading rocket or combine with Parasyte solo. Well+ Parasyte + Acasia with RR+ TL made solo Akelos crazy easy.
I think this is what I'm going for. I just got my last red border and I love trace rifles for ad clear, but it's hard to justify using them against the beefier targets. With the combo you mentioned, I feel like it pushes this trace rifle into a category few others can reach and can make it a true ad killing machine, while still leaving you with another special weapon for big DPS
Incandescent with well and the fragment that causes ignitions on solar super kill and the one that applies scorch stacks with ignitions. Kill one add and apply scorch to nearby enemies if they don’t die from the first ignition they probably will from the chain of ignitions that would follow
Whoa. I didn't even think of Rewind Rounds and Incandescent. Now that is a sexy add clearing weapon and in some instances that will serve you much better than hard hitting, boss killers.
High Impact Reserves is very good in PvP, will consistently knock off a round on your ttk when in the bottom half of the mag.
Yeah, but how are you gonna get it to roll on this gun?
@@UsernameXOXO It's a weapon you can craf.
Wouldnt subsistence/incandescent on the retraced path be better than rewind rounds? Ig it depends since rewind rounds does not require a kill to proc.
Maybe. But also, it reloads in 2 seconds or less.
Reconstruction+incandescentis it for me, because arguably it works to freaking good for what I want from a trace. I can use it to run double special for when I play warlock in a raid, quick burst from the trace get a couple kills which proc incandescent, grab orbs to proc solar boost, use abilities to ad clear if needed, quick burst from trace again, repeat. Never have to reload as long as i manage my abilities well.
Field prep + frenzy/paracausal is great for double special builds. It does double damage on my titan (frenzy+path of burning steps+radiant+solar surge mod and solar surge at base in some activities on curtain weeks). That a hell of a damage there.
That's what I crafted. It's a better Retraced Path with Substistance/Incandescent which had been my goto primairy(I know it's a special but come on, double special with a trace is amazing) for 2 seasons now and it's been replaced this since I got that roll in my day 1 clear and then enhanced when I crafted it this week finally. Now if we could only get a better void trace with Volitile Flow and Repulser Brace(or rewind/subsistance/recom) which would have been amazing with this season's artifact mods.
With the new adept changes for ron weapons the adept variant can land 100 on stability, recoil direction, and range. Moreover, it also has the default 100 AA, making it possible to land 100s on four stats. With nearly 40m effective range and cranked out stability i find it really funny to use
Not high impact reserves for PVP? It will almost always be up, especially enhanced, and with the admittedly small damage buff coming I think it could be really good. More damage all the time cant be bad.
I crafted Rewind/Target Lock. I figured the Retraced Path has incandescent with subsistence, so I wanted something different.
Yeah, it's redundant to get incandescent on Acasia's Dejection if you have Retraced path with Incandescent/Subsistence. It's not that much better so I build it for single target damage.
With Rewind Rounds, assuming you hit all shots and have a 104 mag, you can get 149 total bonus shots, for a total of 253 without reloading (minimum is 101 bonus for 205 total, so you'll get somewhere in that range, probably 225-230)- and that's with REGULAR Rewind Rounds... and Enhanced says it reloads MORE than that!
I can't wait to craft this thing and then have a solar focused season. I mean this season is kinda solar focused but it's really about void right now. Which is why my hollow denial has gained like 10k kills in the past month lol.
My go to load out has been conditional finality, hollow denial, and commemoration. Sometimes riptide or a blinding Gl, wavesplitter, commemoration.
But I am loving using trace rifles finally.
And conditional finality is just an awesome weapon. It's not amazing at anything but it does everything. PvP or PvE it just works. I hope it gets a catalyst or something to make it even better. It's nice having a raid exotic that is getting lots of use.
Anyways as for trace rifles in PvP I think they are finally at that point where they are good but not amazing but not weird to use either. I still prefer my Lodbrok-c with kill clip or target lock. Seriously not enough people are using this auto it's stupid good. But I'm happy with where trace rifles are.
I went with Rewind + Target Lock on mine for now. I already have a Subsistence + Incandescent Retraced Path so I really didn't think I needed another Incan trace. The one thing I haven't loved about traces yet is their single target damage against majors and minibosses, I feel like I'm wasting most of my ammo on them. So that's the idea for Target Lock, not for actual boss DPS. Still haven't used it enough to see if I like it yet because of how strong void and strand weapons are from the artifact though.
Rewind rounds + high impact reserves does seem really fun
got a roll with reconstruction glad i kept it
retraced path is a HELL to farm. i would 100% just raid for this if you want a solar trace.
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊
New perk idea: Final Blow on Scorching target gives you restoration, Final Blow on Scorching powerful combats or guardians heals you on top of it.
Gun is amazing, been running with witherhoard and cataclysmic (I honestly need a solar rocket lol) and I has been putting up pretty solid numbers
@coolguygames I wanted to go back to this video to see if you considered Keep away + High Impact Reserves for Crucible? I feel like it should absolutely shred. I recently started to use some of the exotic traces and wow can they duel
The crit damage numbers aren't flipped. It's going from 12×1.4=16.8 to 12.5×1.35=16.9
If they didn't scale down the multiplier, it would become 12.5×1.4=17.5
They're buffing bodyshot damage without boosting crit damage too much.
Rewind rounds works off of hits, and normally the thing that limits that perk is the diminishing returns it provides. I assume the reason you can get so much more ammo off of incandescent rewind is because incandescent works around the ammo limitation & secures more hits than you actually have the ammo capacity to hit directly
It's funny, on Briar's (without incan of course) there is no way to get more than 12 bursts in a row.
I really think you underrated enhanced hip fire. it's completely different to normal and it's built different compared to every other perk in the game. there's nothing like it
hip fire on a titian with those hip fire boots would be nutty
Hey coolguy! I’ve been meaning to ask about your general thoughts on class balance right now. I’ve seen you tinker on your warlock and then pop back on your hunter. I’ve also been seeing people everywhere say titan. Also if I can be cheeky and ask when are you making a video about strafe again in destiny. I know ur a halo strafe demon!
Take care and keep up the great content :)
Edit* anyone who has insights on that high mobility or even low mobility stafe game please share ur wisdom
got envious+frenzy adept
I recommend crafting Acasia's Dejection as a dmg dealing trace since you can already get retraced path with incandesent anyway so it would be a waste of its potential. Why have 2 trace of the same type with same perks in the vault if you can craft 1 for ad clear and the other for anything else. My personal roll will probably be reconstruction and paracausal affinity.
Great vid
Dont discount vorpal in situations with no ads to activate the other 2 perks vorpal is still a respectable boost. I use it in spire against the eyes completely shreds them.
I just commented to comment 😎 this guys reviews are great!
Traces rifles need a big buff, especially against orange bars and higher, they don’t do that much damage
The trace rifle crit multiplier is going down but the precision damage is going up to 16.9 because of the base damage buff
I got reconstruction/ target lock for my first drop, very happy with it, fun gun to point and forget . Double mags is great aswell . Don't think I'd run enough to craft so happy with my RNG on this one . Great video coolguy
Special weapon rewind rounds is supposed to only be 40%
Gun is really crazy with paracasual and titan path of burning steps.
Basically legendary Prometheus lens, not bad
I would have mentioned WHY you think this crafted version is better than crafted retraced.
There’s no point in crafting this over retraced path if you already have that. Retraced path has “one for all” which is a better damage perk and it can too roll with incandescent. If bungie really wanted to push this trace over retraced then they should have put “incandescent” in the left column.
I think getting both can work. Retraced path built for add clear and Acasia's Dejection built for major/boss dps.
rewind + target lock seems the best for boss DPS, because if you hit all rounds its almost as many shots as reconstruction before a reload and more after the first one
though im looking more at the auto rifle for that, cause that could be cool if you run out of ammo you could just switch to it
Why use a trace for dps tho
@@rockstarskinnys3370 im not which is why im crafting it on an auto, so that i can use it as backup to swap to if i run out of all other ammo
though on the trace it could be good for champions with double special
Idk, Keep Away Target Lock feels really good for dueling and for Supers, and I bet enhanced KA feels even better. Love knocking down immortal users in half a second lmao
Subsistence and incandescent should be your retraced and then reconstruction and target lock on acasias
I'm so sad. Got a keep away target lock adept to drop with insane stat spread. I was hoping for a PvP monster qq
Im naturally going for target lock and reconstruction I'll switch target lock up with incandescent but this is all for pve
Traces feel great rn
I got a random drop of your exact roll perk for perk! (No enhanced but that’s ok).
I been running it with target lock keep away and foetracer all i need is that flinch change
It's basically a flamethrower.
What's a good way to balance special economy if I can ask? Got a Envious Assassin and Paracausal Affinity roll on a Adept and I want to pair it with Conditional Finality for some PvE builds going forward since I have a huge love for both weapons right now.
I think you said a perk name wrong, I believe it's pronounced "weewind waounds"
78 before lightfall 88- 90 now for crafted weapons
Got my adept today!
Seeing this just makes me want to have an exotic trace rifle that is absurdly strong.
Agers Scepter says hi.
@@johnflory3306 yeah but meh. I want a HEAVY. Agers is cool but isn’t as weighty
Numbers are right for the damage and critics multipliers.
I wike the Wewind Wounds!
Reconstruction doesn't reload while firing the weapon with it, unfortunately. Only reloads per 4sec when not firing the weapon.
I recently got into traces for pvp with this thing and have been trying to find my go to pvp. Seeing that this gun has best stats in class but im still trying to figure if its worth running over say and exotic trace? which one would be go to for pvp (legendary or exotic)?
it looks like a dragon :D
I mean, it's nice, but if you already have a good (or great, crafted) Retraced, it's hard to see prioritizing this. There are just too many other weapons to prioritize over the grind/benefit of this.
THAT STICKY ICKY
Trace rifles need waaaaay more reserves.
Old-12 body/16.8 head
New-12.5 body/16.875 head
A buff of 4.17% body/ 0.446% head
The crit multiplier reduction was dumb- half of a percent (0.075 dmg)?! 🙄
They'd have went to 17.5 crit dmg without it- TTK would remain 0.73s at ≥6 Resil, and dropped to 0.66 for ≤5 Resil
I'd be all over this trace if it had shoot to loot or lead from gold. Such a missed opportunity.
I did the raid once. Got this gun with rewind and incan. Guess I’m set
Does Rewind Round counter reset if I manually reload? It would be amazing if I can keep stack until I let it run down when I want to trigger it.
First weapon I've ever gotten where I'm truly not sure what perks I want.
Coming only from the PvE side, I own a Shoot to Loot G.Tricorn Retraced, and with the STL change upcoming, I just have.. no reason to care about this trace unfortunately. Nothing Acasias does, Retraced can do just as well, aside from having an adept mod :
I will literally never have this
I think if you are going the enhanced incandescent route then you are better off with the Retraced Path since you can craft it with subsistence which will be overall better than any of the magazine boosting perks Acasia has access to. Subsistence reloads 10% (20% if enhanced) of your magazine per kill (and incandescent/scorch kills count too) meaning you will struggle to ever need to reload before you run out of reserves. I'll still be on the lookout for some nice unique adept rolls of Acasia as you can get some very nice min-max stats once you factor in adept mods and when we can recraft the barrels/mags/etc. on them.
Not feeling the moose antlers
Just crafted the raid auto, conflicted about what to do next though, the sidearm or trace? What do y’all think (I usually only play pve)
if you use sidearms a lot, Mykels is pretty sick. if you’re like me and don’t use sidearms at all, go with the Acasia’s Dejection or Briar’s Contempt. if you don’t have a good First In, Last Out, go for Nessa’s Oblation.
How the hell do you improve your red border drop rate on neomuna?????