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I just have to express Jeffrey what a treasure you are! Always so very well prepared, inviting and insightful in these dialogues. I learn so much and am very grateful!
Thank you Dr Dabashish Banerji for carrying on the priceless legacy of your grandfather Sri Aurobindo. To think at one point in Aurobindo's life it was suggested to him to think of Western Civilisation as the superior model. We are the backward ones. I never cease to be amazed Dr Mishlove with your ability to connect with every guest with extraordinary understanding and knowledge of the subject at hand and sometimes clarifying for the audience a particular statement.
Cannot express my gratitude enough to both of you for putting out this knowledge. I have personally had some of the experiences described in these three interviews and therefore do not have a shred of a doubt of their authenticity.
I once did psilocybin and had a feeling of such intense love that it was experienced as a pain, but I knew it was a good thing. But I couldn't take it. I guess that is what Debashish is talking about.
Thank you very much for this wonderful talk. Yoga as we know is so limiting in comparison to the vision of Shri Aurobindo. Belief that all we have is on this earth and nothing more exists is so limiting. When on believes in possibilities almighty opens up so many doors to reach him.
Healing concept is unique in Sri Aurobindos Yoga . All illnesses emerged from falsehood if one one is capable to introduce the light of truth to the obscure corners of his/her being he/she will get healed at once.
+john davis Dear Mr.Devis I must suggest you to go for some book written by the Mother published by Sri Aurobindo Asram Pundicherry India or some compilation of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother that will easy to comprehend for you please visit Sri Aurobindo Asram Pundicherry website. Thank you (this photograph is not mine I don't know why it is coming) Siddhartha Bhattacharya
i’m elated to hear that my own spiritual philosophy is fully in accord with sri aurobindo. dr banerji did an exemplary job in explaining. i’ve studied many paths over the past 60 years, and since 1970’s focused mainly on zen in conjunction with vedanta, first through theosophy, then in 1995 via ramana maharshi, gaudapada, and adi sankara. i believe sri ramana, although he knew (imo), was hesitant to talk about maya in its true light (as most *do* acknowledge, “all this is brahman,” no-one evidently payed much mind to what sankara said about maya: it is real yet not-real; beginning less and endless, and it is anirvachaniya or beyond description…and not merely illusion. i argue the sanskrit word “mithya” is merely illusion, not maya). he was hesitant because of the prevailing mindset of the advaitins. yet, i also argue, “what exactly is it that is non-dual?” i maintain it is brahman and its lila. note: if anyone typed “metaphysics” or “vedanta” in google (or yahoo) from 1998 - 2002, it appeared as the first return.. it has since been taken down by someone evidently affiliated with earthlink, who was *suspiciously* unwilling to sell the url back to me. an internet resource called "wayback machine" archived it here: web.archive.org/web/20021122082430/digital.net/~egodust/
Thank you for this beautiful little series. I love and appreciate Sri Aurobindo and the Mother greatly an it was nice to hear a bit about the history. I’m also glad you mentioned Deleuze and Jung. Among the major intellectual efforts I intend to make in my life will be to create a kind of dialectic between Aurobindo, Deleuze and Guattari, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, Alfred North Whitehead and a bunch of insight in modern science - particularly evolutionary developmental biology, systems biology and whatever I can learn about quantum physics and computation. Aurobindo fuses into this very beautifully and has already deeply influenced me. By the way, are there more resources you think I should look into? Thank you :) 🙏
McLuhan, Bergson, Sloterdijk, Raimon Panikkar. Whitehead and Aurobindo is a good combo - especially interesting is Aurobindo's essential trinitarian structure (individual, universal, transcendent) compared to the trinitarian nature of Whitehead's God (primordial nature, consequent nature, superjective nature). Hegel is a another one to throw in the mix (there is an article by Steve Odin - Sri Aurobindo and Hegel on the Involution-Evolution of Absolute Spirit- that is very good), and Ludwig Feuerbach.
@@Yzjoshuwave F.W.J. Schelling is another good one to look into. While I agree with elgreatestweight about Whitehead, Feuerbach, and Bergson, I would reccommend you read Schelling instead of Hegel. As far as german idealists go, Schelling was more experimental and less verbose than Hegel. While Hegel ultimately argued that human development concluded in western civilization, and that Christianity represented the pinnacle of religious development, Schelling had a much more ...complex... view of things, and tied hermetic, hindu, kabbalistic, and alchemical concepts into his work. There are no easy answers in Schelling, but the problems he poses are far more stimulating than anything you'll find in Hegel. That's not to say that Hegel is without value. It's a "bang for your buck" problem. Most of the exciting ideas Hegel put forth are also present in Schelling's work, along with all sorts of other mind-bending, prescient concepts. And with Schelling, you won't have to read massive tomes to get at those ideas. Schelling's best-known work, the Philosophy of Human Freedom, is less than 200 pages. It's extremely dense, but far shorter than Hegel's equally dense 2-volume Science of Logic or 3-volume Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences, without which Hegel's (more famous) Phenomenology of Spirit is hard to properly understand.
I'm kind of late to the conversation, but how do we as humans reconcile our selfish biologic needs example -utilizing animals and the earth for our own benefit, with evolution to a higher consciousness 'SuperMind', Thank you.
22:37 "... Since everything is in reality divine then all our senses must be witness to that divine bliss..." 23:35 "... Sithi..." ? 25:35 "... Naturalism..." "... transcend & transform..."
Is bliss a quest for wholeness in the sense of a quest for wholeness in Carl Jung's psychology? BTW I am here at this site because of Alien Protocol's recent interview with Jeffery.
I would differ on the literal take of the "powers of the body". For me it is the need to enhance the enlightenment of the subtle body, that kind of body building work that Arnold Swarchenegger practices in an outer manifestation. In alchemy it was the need to include the unio corporalis stage of the coniunctio into the opus.
It is not the longevity of the physical body that is the objective - rather is it all about the longevity of the subtle body for the long life in the Beyond that is desired.
It's solely the will and works of the Divine Mother. We may discuss, explain the Yoga of Sri Aurobindo very profoundly, but it's all useless, we should remember that fact at the same time. We have to try to clear and vacant our minds full of many ideas, imaginations first.
why the need for new body tech? Sure theres life savingg, life extending, but besides that,, what ? Why the need to modify the conscious state : alchemy; awakening; chakkra; kundalini; it seems so extreme ; and for what ? Enlightening ? What if there's no need to heavily modify; maybe that's nirvana, what if we as a community are all holding hands together laughing & smiling
6:12 Good point. And Debashish describes the priviledging of Vedanta over Tantra as Aurobindo's solution. Tantra has become a million-dollar industry because people in the West who are done collecting things have turned to collecting experiences. It's still exterior and it can still be monetized.
Jeffrey, You have raised Naturalism in other interviews too and in my view they are completely stupid or you misunderstood what they are trying to say. Anyway the way you present it, it is really crashed materialism and that is not natural. I am surprised that you raised it. You have said in many interviews and many of your guests have affirmed that ESP and all the other topics in Parapsychology are natural abilities in all humans that our civilized and religion controlled society is always trying to suppress.
Regarding the 10m mark on Michael Murphy's Esalen Institute in Big Sur.. Sadhguru has recently announced the grand-opening of the Isha Yoga Center in Los Angeles California! It seems most of these types of institutions tend to be on the west coast: California Institute for Human Science (Sean Esbjörn-Hargens), Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) near Petaluma Eben Alexander United in Hope and Healing -. InnerSanctumCenter Weimar Institute in Sacramento Philosophical Research Society (PRS) in Los Angeles Holmes Institute / Centers for Spiritual Living (CSL). Michael Newton Institute (Insight Meditation ) Society in Massachusetts, Spirit Rock in California Dr. Wentz' Sanoviv Medical Institute Canyon Ranch/Swiss Alps Clinic Retreat Henry Shukman's Mountain Cloud Zen the Autentic Gate Center Dr. Dale at the Silicon Valley Health Institute Bill Plotkin's Animas Valley Institute in Durango, CO Institute for Frontier Areas of Psychology and Mental Health (IGPP) in Germany Arthur Findlay College in England University of Arizona Science of Consciousness CCS program University of Edinburgh (Richard Wiseman) / Univ. Of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies
You can help support our ongoing video productions while enjoying a good book. To order Seven Quartets of Becoming by Debashish Banerji, visit amzn.to/2CUWYI3.
I just have to express Jeffrey what a treasure you are! Always so very well prepared, inviting and insightful in these dialogues. I learn so much and am very grateful!
It is so good to have such knowledge and views available from the comfort of our homes. Thank you so much.
Thank you Dr Dabashish Banerji for carrying on the priceless legacy of your grandfather Sri Aurobindo. To think at one point in Aurobindo's life it was suggested to him to think of Western Civilisation as the superior model. We are the backward ones. I never cease to be amazed Dr Mishlove with your ability to connect with every guest with extraordinary understanding and knowledge of the subject at hand and sometimes clarifying for the audience a particular statement.
I believe that Debashish Banerji is a descendant of the artist, Abanindranath Tagore. I don't think that Aurobindo had any children.
@@NewThinkingAllowed hello sir, thank you for this beautiful interview.
A kind request sir plz check Ravindernath's spelling........
Regards 💐🙏🏼
We are not backwards. Just following our own path as Aurobindo himself would've said ; )
Jeffrey, you are a legend & you have put me onto so many great thinkers. thank you - bless you ☮️
Excellent videos! I really appreciate how you always let your guest speak and explain his ideas!
It is a wonder representation of Sri Aurobindo Philosophy, I am waiting for this type of next video, many many thanks to both of you.
See www.newthinkingallowed.com/Listings.htm
Can we have more of Debashish? You interviewed him very well. Would like to see more episodes with him. Thanks!
Cannot express my gratitude enough to both of you for putting out this knowledge.
I have personally had some of the experiences described in these three interviews and therefore do not have a shred of a doubt of their authenticity.
Thank you for this illuminating three part discussion.
I once did psilocybin and had a feeling of such intense love that it was experienced as a pain, but I knew it was a good thing. But I couldn't take it. I guess that is what Debashish is talking about.
Thank you very much for this wonderful talk. Yoga as we know is so limiting in comparison to the vision of Shri Aurobindo. Belief that all we have is on this earth and nothing more exists is so limiting. When on believes in possibilities almighty opens up so many doors to reach him.
Healing concept is unique in Sri Aurobindos Yoga . All illnesses emerged from falsehood if one one is capable to introduce the light of truth to the obscure corners of his/her being he/she will get healed at once.
This comment belong to Siddhartha bhattacharya
Agree with you
+Debaditya hazra, Is the Siddhartha Bhattacharya you speak of, the same one who was appointed head of Access Health India Corporation?
I loved this conversation. I look forward to reading the book.
+john davis Dear Mr.Devis I must suggest you to go for some book written by the Mother published by Sri Aurobindo Asram Pundicherry India or some compilation of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother that will easy to comprehend for you please visit Sri Aurobindo Asram Pundicherry website. Thank you (this photograph is not mine I don't know why it is coming) Siddhartha Bhattacharya
amazing ... thanks...my love and gratitude..
Thanks for the talks!
i’m elated to hear that my own spiritual philosophy is fully in accord with sri aurobindo. dr banerji did an exemplary job in explaining.
i’ve studied many paths over the past 60 years, and since 1970’s focused mainly on zen in conjunction with vedanta, first through theosophy, then in 1995 via ramana maharshi, gaudapada, and adi sankara. i believe sri ramana, although he knew (imo), was hesitant to talk about maya in its true light (as most *do* acknowledge, “all this is brahman,” no-one evidently payed much mind to what sankara said about maya: it is real yet not-real; beginning less and endless, and it is anirvachaniya or beyond description…and not merely illusion. i argue the sanskrit word “mithya” is merely illusion, not maya). he was hesitant because of the prevailing mindset of the advaitins. yet, i also argue, “what exactly is it that is non-dual?” i maintain it is brahman and its lila.
note: if anyone typed “metaphysics” or “vedanta” in google (or yahoo) from 1998 - 2002, it appeared as the first return.. it has since been taken down by someone evidently affiliated with earthlink, who was *suspiciously* unwilling to sell the url back to me. an internet resource called "wayback machine" archived it here:
web.archive.org/web/20021122082430/digital.net/~egodust/
Loving it, as always! 🌟
Thanks so much for your exploration of the potential of physical immortality and the insights of Sri Aurobindo .
I've always wanted to know more of Aurobindu thank you so much J x
This is such a wonderful channel. Such insightful interviews, quiet and amazing philosophy. I thank you :)
I love all these interviews and find them very helpful. You are doing a great work :)
Excellent .must Watch the three sessions
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Wonderful discussion. Thank you both.
Love you guys!
Thank you both! Namaste
Thank you for this beautiful little series. I love and appreciate Sri Aurobindo and the Mother greatly an it was nice to hear a bit about the history. I’m also glad you
mentioned Deleuze and Jung. Among the major intellectual efforts I intend to make in my life will be to create a kind of dialectic between Aurobindo, Deleuze and Guattari, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, Alfred North Whitehead and a bunch of insight in modern science - particularly evolutionary developmental biology, systems biology and whatever I can learn about quantum physics and computation. Aurobindo fuses into this very beautifully and has already deeply influenced me. By the way, are there more resources you think I should look into? Thank you :) 🙏
McLuhan, Bergson, Sloterdijk, Raimon Panikkar. Whitehead and Aurobindo is a good combo - especially interesting is Aurobindo's essential trinitarian structure (individual, universal, transcendent) compared to the trinitarian nature of Whitehead's God (primordial nature, consequent nature, superjective nature). Hegel is a another one to throw in the mix (there is an article by Steve Odin - Sri Aurobindo and Hegel on the Involution-Evolution of Absolute Spirit- that is very good), and Ludwig Feuerbach.
Thanks for the recommendations!
@@Yzjoshuwave F.W.J. Schelling is another good one to look into. While I agree with elgreatestweight about Whitehead, Feuerbach, and Bergson, I would reccommend you read Schelling instead of Hegel. As far as german idealists go, Schelling was more experimental and less verbose than Hegel.
While Hegel ultimately argued that human development concluded in western civilization, and that Christianity represented the pinnacle of religious development, Schelling had a much more ...complex... view of things, and tied hermetic, hindu, kabbalistic, and alchemical concepts into his work. There are no easy answers in Schelling, but the problems he poses are far more stimulating than anything you'll find in Hegel.
That's not to say that Hegel is without value. It's a "bang for your buck" problem. Most of the exciting ideas Hegel put forth are also present in Schelling's work, along with all sorts of other mind-bending, prescient concepts. And with Schelling, you won't have to read massive tomes to get at those ideas. Schelling's best-known work, the Philosophy of Human Freedom, is less than 200 pages. It's extremely dense, but far shorter than Hegel's equally dense 2-volume Science of Logic or 3-volume Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences, without which Hegel's (more famous) Phenomenology of Spirit is hard to properly understand.
Does one need to master all 7 quartets in order to achieve super consciousness/mind, or will each one of the quartets lead to such?
I'm kind of late to the conversation, but how do we as humans reconcile our selfish biologic needs example -utilizing animals and the earth for our own benefit, with evolution to a higher consciousness 'SuperMind', Thank you.
Michael Murphy was also greatly influenced by the works of Tielhard de Chardin.
Good information.. thanks for sharing.. :)
22:37 "... Since everything is in reality divine then all our senses must be witness to that divine bliss..."
23:35 "... Sithi..." ?
25:35 "... Naturalism..."
"... transcend & transform..."
thank you!
Is bliss a quest for wholeness in the sense of a quest for wholeness in Carl Jung's psychology? BTW I am here at this site because of Alien Protocol's recent interview with Jeffery.
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I would differ on the literal take of the "powers of the body". For me it is the need to enhance the enlightenment of the subtle body, that kind of body building work that Arnold Swarchenegger practices in an outer manifestation. In alchemy it was the need to include the unio corporalis stage of the coniunctio into the opus.
It is not the longevity of the physical body that is the objective - rather is it all about the longevity of the subtle body for the long life in the Beyond that is desired.
It's solely the will and works of the Divine Mother. We may discuss, explain the Yoga of Sri Aurobindo very profoundly, but it's all useless, we should remember that fact at the same time. We have to try to clear and vacant our minds full of many ideas, imaginations first.
He was, however, unable to experience the pain of a broken limb as bliss.
I would like to read Debashish Banjeri's book "Seven Quartets of Becoming ". Do you know a way where I can get it? Thank you.
Thanks
why the need for new body tech? Sure theres life savingg, life extending, but besides that,, what ?
Why the need to modify the conscious state : alchemy; awakening; chakkra; kundalini;
it seems so extreme ; and for what ? Enlightening ? What if there's no need to heavily modify; maybe that's nirvana, what if we as a community are all holding hands together laughing & smiling
3:50 XLNT
4:12 SuperXLNT!!
6:12 Good point. And Debashish describes the priviledging of Vedanta over Tantra as Aurobindo's solution.
Tantra has become a million-dollar industry because people in the West who are done collecting things have turned to collecting experiences. It's still exterior and it can still be monetized.
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Jeffrey, You have raised Naturalism in other interviews too and in my view they are completely stupid or you misunderstood what they are trying to say. Anyway the way you present it, it is really crashed materialism and that is not natural. I am surprised that you raised it.
You have said in many interviews and many of your guests have affirmed that ESP and all the other topics in Parapsychology are natural abilities in all humans that our civilized and religion controlled society is always trying to suppress.
Regarding the 10m mark on Michael Murphy's Esalen Institute in Big Sur..
Sadhguru has recently announced the grand-opening of the Isha Yoga Center in Los Angeles California!
It seems most of these types of institutions tend to be on the west coast:
California Institute for Human Science (Sean Esbjörn-Hargens),
Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) near Petaluma
Eben Alexander United in Hope and Healing -. InnerSanctumCenter
Weimar Institute in Sacramento
Philosophical Research Society (PRS) in Los Angeles
Holmes Institute / Centers for Spiritual Living (CSL).
Michael Newton Institute
(Insight Meditation ) Society in Massachusetts,
Spirit Rock in California
Dr. Wentz' Sanoviv Medical Institute
Canyon Ranch/Swiss Alps Clinic Retreat
Henry Shukman's Mountain Cloud Zen the Autentic Gate Center
Dr. Dale at the Silicon Valley Health Institute
Bill Plotkin's Animas Valley Institute in Durango, CO
Institute for Frontier Areas of Psychology and Mental Health (IGPP) in Germany
Arthur Findlay College in England
University of Arizona Science of Consciousness CCS program
University of Edinburgh (Richard Wiseman) / Univ. Of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies
BTW, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the Science of Creative Intelligence in Ohio!