How To Write Any Story - Why Pacing Is Everything

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  • @don_yanapaqui
    @don_yanapaqui 4 месяца назад +1503

    You've summarized in this sentence: 'The good news for the rest of us is that the more lazy writers rely on AI, the more stories written without AI will shine and stand out.' The reality of AI that none see. Creativity is an exercise; you lose it if you don't use it. Kudos!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +152

      Exactly! You lose it if you don't use it, well put. There's so much understandable worry and concern regarding AI in creative worlds. I think it's helpful to take a beat and remember that. Writers should just stay the course and constantly improve. It will be okay in the end. Creatively speaking, the exercised human mind will always be superior.

    • @dai19721
      @dai19721 4 месяца назад +2

      correct ..

    • @winterhaydn
      @winterhaydn 4 месяца назад

      I use ChatGPT to bounce off ideas I have. It's like having a 2nd person around who can provide elements you wouldn't think of. ... However, ChatGPT is terribly generic and often too abstract.
      It works ok for some genres (like sci-fi), but sucks at others (like horror).
      I'm wondering how many current stories are relying on A.I..

    • @nifftbatuff676
      @nifftbatuff676 4 месяца назад +6

      The problem is that is diffcult even for AI to reach the abyss of modern writers.

    • @skmuskanrahaman1690
      @skmuskanrahaman1690 4 месяца назад +13

      It is ok to let Ai Rate you story and tell you about the weaknesses of the story so that you can fix it.

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929 4 месяца назад +570

    “The story you write will either be terrible, or Indistinguishable from all the rest of the stories on the shelves these days-most of which are terrible.”
    Thank you for this honesty. So many folks who do this are AIMING to show writers HOW to do exactly this.

  • @solfolgarait3745
    @solfolgarait3745 3 месяца назад +196

    I've seen thousands of lectures from professional authors on pacing, and yet none have been able to explain and articulate it as well as you have. I feel like I have just learned something invaluable, thank you.

    • @MaximilianReyCartwright
      @MaximilianReyCartwright 3 месяца назад +5

      Have you watched Sanderson's BYU lecture series? It sucks. Once you start listening to these people you quickly realize they have no idea how they do what they do. They just follow their instincts. If you want to be great, you have to do the same thing.

    • @solfolgarait3745
      @solfolgarait3745 3 месяца назад +10

      @@MaximilianReyCartwright ummm, I actually really like Sanderson's lectures. But I don't see how that has anything to do with this video. Keep your rude comment to yourself, please.

    • @MaximilianReyCartwright
      @MaximilianReyCartwright 2 месяца назад

      @@solfolgarait3745 Saying a lecture series sucks is rude, but telling someone to shut up isn't? Get off your high horse, you ninny.

    • @nes-fl7mz
      @nes-fl7mz Месяц назад

      This is exactly what she said, she said there's no formula ​@@MaximilianReyCartwright

    • @Zara-hu7bb
      @Zara-hu7bb 29 дней назад

      Hi! Do you have any you’d recommend? 😊

  • @cosmictraveler1146
    @cosmictraveler1146 4 месяца назад +327

    The mini arc break down was what I needed to hear and has blasted the writers block I’ve been suffering Tysm

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +18

      That's so great to hear! I'm so glad I could help in some way to break through the awful, dreaded Writer's Block. Good luck with your writing! And thank you for watching!

    • @MaximilianReyCartwright
      @MaximilianReyCartwright 3 месяца назад

      This video is essentially an unpacking of Dwight Swain's book Techniques of the Selling Writer, the single best writer's guide ever published. Do yourself a favor and check it out if you haven't. You can find a free digital copy online.

    • @celisewillis
      @celisewillis 24 дня назад +1

      Nice! Keep going, you can do it 💪

  • @Valkrill
    @Valkrill 4 месяца назад +243

    I thoroughly went through every story plotting formula, 3 act, 4 act, 8 part story circle, even found a thorough breakdown of the 3 act structure made into 29 chapters/steps. In the end, I went with my gut and wrote something wholly unique. I took inspiration from some of my favorite shows, books, games, etc, and formed a plot piece by piece with two seperate main POVs that intertwine towards each other by the middle. Currently on the 2nd round of revisions, and I'm in love with the characters and world I've crafted. Trust yourself, and look inward for the answers while drawing inspiration from your favorite arcs or moments elsewhere if you need it. Good luck, and great video! 👍

    • @skmuskanrahaman1690
      @skmuskanrahaman1690 4 месяца назад +2

      My story has 5 Acts I didn't choose it it just happened.😂

    • @polaroid_.
      @polaroid_. 4 месяца назад +3

      LET US READ IT

    • @MaximilianReyCartwright
      @MaximilianReyCartwright 3 месяца назад +5

      The rules of writing are like music theory: they're strategies and concepts conceived by observers trying to make sense of genius creatives. They're attempts at mapping the trails blazed by the greats. If you want to stand out, you have to blaze new trails, not walk the same ones millions already have before you.

    • @DavidMorales-s8d
      @DavidMorales-s8d 2 месяца назад +2

      @@MaximilianReyCartwright This is so true, I've been playing piano for over 25 years and you reach a point where you need to break the "rules" in order to get something very beautiful and unique. The rules are there for
      beginners so they can get started but once you reach certain level you just need to ignore them in order to improve.

    • @sleichel
      @sleichel Месяц назад +1

      @@DavidMorales-s8dtotally agree! You need to know the rules to play the game and then you realize how and when break them to create something dynamic.

  • @lrs3689
    @lrs3689 4 месяца назад +332

    I'm new to this writing thing, but i have this feeling the more i try to look at those 3 act structures, heroe's journey guidelines, i find myself all the more lost in my storytelling. It doesn't feel organic anymore and the story loses its soul. I think this channel is the one I have been looking for. Thank you for this!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +58

      That's the biggest danger with all those formulas, in my opinion: the loss of soul. I hope this video helps as you get started on your journey. Hopefully my future videos will also be helpful! Thanks for watching and happy writing!

    • @dionmcgee5610
      @dionmcgee5610 4 месяца назад +11

      Yes, trust your writing instincts.

    • @BelleKindaReads
      @BelleKindaReads 4 месяца назад +5

      Agreed

    • @IzzetTempo
      @IzzetTempo 4 месяца назад +18

      You better hope you have good instincts though cuz I’ve read so many early writers with just the worst writing in the world with no structure and I’m pretty certain they all followed their instincts too. I think a bad writer w structure is better than a bad writer w/o structure. And good artists don’t really need it but honestly when you look at the most famous, widely spread movies books etc, they typically fall into three acts, even if not planned that way.

    • @gryranfelt5473
      @gryranfelt5473 3 месяца назад +8

      I find it makes sense to study the structure models, then throw them away and make my plots. Then if I find any issues, like I have a sense that something is off, analyzing the structure can really help. Like, realizing that "oh, if I flip these scenes like this, I hit the right beats" or "the reason this scene isn't working is because it's supposed to functionally do A, but I'm doing Z."

  • @afternoonbears6989
    @afternoonbears6989 3 месяца назад +48

    Where have you been???? It’s like I’ve had the body of storytelling but not the heart to pump the blood. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS GOLD!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  3 месяца назад +5

      I hope now you can pump all the blood you need! Thank you for watching and for your comment! I wish you the best of luck with your storytelling!

    • @celisewillis
      @celisewillis 24 дня назад +2

      what an incredible metaphor! Can't wait to read what you write!

    • @afternoonbears6989
      @afternoonbears6989 23 дня назад +1

      @@celisewillis Neither can I!..... What kind of stuff do YOU write?

  • @rikuapologist
    @rikuapologist 4 месяца назад +71

    i think this just broke through a wall in my head between myself and figuring out the finer plot details of my current project - thank you!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +9

      That's wonderful! I hope the plotting and planning continues to go smoothly for you now. And thank you for watching! Happy writing!

  • @scribe_thrive
    @scribe_thrive 4 месяца назад +70

    Of all of the writing advice videos that I've watched (which is a lot) this is the first time I ever heard something like this and it makes sense! I have to say, this is the best writing advice I've received because it's not just general advice, like "5 Ways To Make A Good Magic Item." It's actual, actionable advice that can be executed and to actually help me get words to paper. A huge thank you.

    • @MaximilianReyCartwright
      @MaximilianReyCartwright 3 месяца назад

      This video is essentially an unpacking of Dwight Swain's book Techniques of the Selling Writer, the single greatest writer's guide ever published. Do yourself a favor and check it out. You can find a free digital copy online.

  • @stephenlogsdon8266
    @stephenlogsdon8266 4 месяца назад +167

    You had me at “there are no formulas.” But … endless thankless hard work? Personally, I’m having a blast.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +45

      You're definitely not wrong. I enjoy the process, too! But I do still have days when I feel like all I'm doing is banging my head on the keyboard... Thanks for watching!

  • @simplewrites
    @simplewrites 4 месяца назад +93

    I follow Brandon Sanderson's advice. Map out the general structure of your story, outline the important events, set up sheets for your characters (longer and shorter depending on their importance) and then begin writing.
    This way you have clear story points A through Z but aren't basically writing the same thing twice. The journey between the points is still unknown to you and you have the freedom to change whatever you want as your story progresses.
    You don't fall into the George Martin trap of not knowing how to finish a story and you also get the benefit of a naturally flowing sequence of events.
    All that's left is to practice this.

  • @67LMcC
    @67LMcC 3 месяца назад +20

    I've been a writer for years, and this is probably the most helpful video I've ever watched on the topic of pacing and how to create "mini arcs" within the scope of the larger story arc. You've explained it so clearly with great examples. Please - PLEASE - do make more of these videos!! I'm watching.

  • @SkylarConover
    @SkylarConover Месяц назад +11

    This is literally the best writing advice I have ever heard. Thank you so much. This gives me so much more direction and understanding and makes storytelling so much less overwhelming

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! I actively pursue anything that can make the writing process less overwhelming... I'm glad this video could help you so much! Thank you for watching, and good luck with your writing!

  • @manishaholm
    @manishaholm 16 дней назад +2

    LOVED this. Your logic describes how I've been writing in my last two books, wondering all the while, "Do I know what I'm doing?" I feel much more confident now and feel empowered to continue with mini-arc focus in telling my current story, which leads I know not where.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  16 дней назад

      Thank you! I'm so glad my video could help give you a boost of confidence. Good luck with your story, I hope you enjoy finding out where it leads!

  • @pamelaberry6875
    @pamelaberry6875 4 месяца назад +60

    Only 9 minutes in but this is genius! I always end up writing my own structure to fit the story I want for every single book because the typical structures cause so many limitations and issues with flow. I've never heard pacing talked about in this way. You're really onto something.

  • @pigglespd
    @pigglespd 4 месяца назад +16

    This is one of the best videos on storytelling (and creating in general) I've ever watched! I feel so lucky to have this recommended to me today! I've been writing on/off for about two years now because I was always trying to fit myself into these plot structures, and it has really robbed me of having fun and finishing anything. But no longer! Your take on pacing makes so much sense, and I feel excited to create again! Thank you for this, and do make more!

    • @mnfowler1
      @mnfowler1 2 месяца назад

      Writing can be fun. Don't let that get around, or everyone will want to do it!

  • @RobynLeigh111
    @RobynLeigh111 3 месяца назад +21

    This makes so much sense. I'm a beginner writer and plotting stifles me. And I find discovery writing leads me to waffle. And I believe this is the missing piece for me. Would love more in depth videos on story techniques.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  3 месяца назад +5

      Plotting was really tricky for me for a long time, too. I always felt like I was groping in the dark and if I got it right it was just because I got lucky. Learning things like this helped me so much, I hope it can help you, too. I do want to make a lot more videos on plotting and more in-depth videos on building stories. Thank you so much for watching, and good luck with your writing!

  • @culuc
    @culuc 4 месяца назад +28

    This is a great video. Writing advice tends to be super abstract and attack the structure of a story at a very broad level, or hyperfocused on the style of a single scene. This hits the middle of these extremes in a way i rarely see, and really appreciate!

  • @megiste9284
    @megiste9284 4 месяца назад +36

    This was crystal clear and very helpful. I have been getting stuck and lost while planning my story, you showed me what to focus on and I don't feel so helpless anymore.
    Thanks a lot ! I hope the algorithm recognize your merits !

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +3

      That's so wonderful to hear! I'm so happy I was able to help and I hope the writing goes smoothly now. Thank you very much for your supportive words, I really appreciate it. Happy writing!

    • @megiste9284
      @megiste9284 4 месяца назад +2

      @@The-Second-Story Thanks ! 🌼

  • @SM_Price
    @SM_Price 27 дней назад +2

    This video is a masterpiece. So helpful, so clear, and without all the fluff other videos tend to have. A sincere thank you for the content.

  • @raptorboss6688
    @raptorboss6688 4 месяца назад +21

    This video is INSANELY informative and helpful with actual practical advice that anyone can follow. I really hope your channel starts to take off because I am already loving the content here!

  • @edenghostpesqueira2856
    @edenghostpesqueira2856 10 дней назад +1

    This is the best way I’ve seen this explained. I’m writing a comic, so it’s slightly different but not by much, it just adds drawings into the mix. Thank you so so so much and I’m excited to see more from you!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  8 дней назад

      Thank you! I'm really glad my video could help you. I'd like to think that storytelling principles are largely the same across all mediums, at least that's my hope with my videos. Good luck with your comic! And thank you for watching!

  • @DragonGuy112
    @DragonGuy112 7 дней назад +2

    For years, I've had so many ideas for stories without any structure and I've struggled to follow any kind of formula because my brain just wouldn't conform to it
    But this video really clarified the storytelling process for me, I've got to try the mini-arc thing with some of my own stories
    Glad this showed up in my recommended feed, great video!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  7 дней назад +1

      Thank you! I really hope my video can help you! I think all writers just need to learn the fundamentals of story structure. Then you'll be able to build whatever structure you need for whichever story you're working on. Good luck with your writing, and thank you for watching!

  • @maevynlamonkey2250
    @maevynlamonkey2250 3 месяца назад +18

    John wick was not only sad for the death of his doggy but also because his puppy was a gift from his deceased wife making the dogs death heavier for his character.

  • @mukeshdang3138
    @mukeshdang3138 15 дней назад +1

    Finally someone here who is bold enough to state the fact:hard work cant be replaced with formulas.

  • @GutsyGibbon
    @GutsyGibbon Месяц назад +5

    This is perfect. Thanks. I often felt that my creative urge was being suppressed by trying to study and fit into one or more plot models. This video makes me feel like a weight has been lifted. Don't beat yourself up; write your creative story out of a bunch of mini-stories. I am a retired computer engineer. Every significant hardware problem or computer program is broken down into smaller, easy to handle pieces, and the complex result follows. Writing, painting, and sculpting benefit from the same breakdown. We just have to be aware of that. Thanks!!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  Месяц назад

      Thank you! I'm glad this video could help so much! As an engineer you probably understand structure even better than I do! But that's my approach, too. Everything can be broken down into smaller pieces. Even conversations almost always have their own mini-arcs. Working with the smaller pieces is so much less overwhelming than trying to tackle the whole thing in one go.
      Thank you for watching!

  • @vincentvanaustin9575
    @vincentvanaustin9575 2 месяца назад +2

    I've been devouring videos on BookTube looking for advice, guidance, tips, tricks, inspiration, knowledge...there are a lot of very useful & helpful folks out there.
    But I've been drawn back to this video multiple times since I found it two months ago. You so succinctly convey the importance of mini-arcs & put into words something I think I've unconsciously known, but could never name.
    Thank you. Truly. I've gotten myself unstuck from the rut I was in with my story. ❤

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much for taking the time to leave this comment. I'm really glad that my video could be such a big help to you in your writing. I know what you mean about unconsciously knowing something. Sometimes it just takes hearing it phrased or described a certain way for it to finally click.
      Good luck with your writing! And thank you so much for your support!

  • @showmethetreaty
    @showmethetreaty 4 месяца назад +11

    You did in one video what over a year of watching writers explain writing couldn't. Mahalo

  • @LODmann
    @LODmann 4 месяца назад +8

    I just noticed that this is actually a quite small and new channel. I loved the advice given. I have been struggling a lot personallly because I wish I could create art and I have a rather warped and difficult relationship towards producing art. Long story. Anyway, I tried to get into writing a few months ago in order to work on my self-worth and the related issues and found myself giving up in frustration after a few tries. Writing and art in general always felt like this mystical skill that some people just seem to be innately born with but your explanation beautifully lifted this mist that was clouding me the whole time trying to write. It really motivated me to give it another try. If I hadn't found this video I probably would have given up for good.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +2

      I'm really glad you didn't give up. Writing can be wonderfully therapeutic and also very rewarding. I firmly believe that anyone can learn how to do anything. I struggled a lot when I was younger with largely esoteric or vague and abstract writing classes. I would love to be able to show people that writing is a skill you can learn. A skill anyone can learn.
      Thank you very much for watching!

  • @MatthewEverettGates
    @MatthewEverettGates 4 месяца назад +11

    That was a clear, understandable statement. So many forms/techs, but this clarifies structure and scene for me in a way I've been trying to extract from other presentations. Much appreciated!!

  • @bbblackwell
    @bbblackwell 4 месяца назад +14

    How wonderfully thoughtful you are. This was a meaningful contribution--thank you!

  • @arnoldindustries6983
    @arnoldindustries6983 15 дней назад +1

    ' ..all the other stories on the shelves these days, most of which are terrible.' Finally a writer that doesn't feel compelled to gush vapid praise and tells the truth. Thank you!

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 Месяц назад +5

    I just watched another video that pointed out that a story is not just "one thing happening AFTER another" as you assert at 20:46, but rather one thing happening BECAUSE of another, and so on.

    • @raisedbobcat8266
      @raisedbobcat8266 14 дней назад

      Yeah but you can say this either way. A story is just one thing happening after another, but it’s good to think of it as one thing happening because of another

    • @captainnolan5062
      @captainnolan5062 14 дней назад

      @@raisedbobcat8266 I disagree.

  • @rikiukin
    @rikiukin 14 дней назад +1

    Thank you for this video! I've been thinking of a story for a game I have in mind and had most of the arcs figured out, but I had trouble connecting them together! When I look at my notes now, everything makes much more sense, haha! Your explanations are simple and concise, straight to the point, will definitely come back to this in case I need a refresher. (On another note, it is so beautiful to analyze media and books this way, it is so much more thrilling!)

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  13 дней назад

      I'm so glad my video could help! I do agree, this kind of analysis is so rewarding and even a little fun. It helps you appreciate the beautiful choreography of a well-planner plot. Good luck with you game! Thank you for watching!

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx 4 месяца назад +41

    the architect analogy was so good 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

    • @blobymcblobface
      @blobymcblobface 4 месяца назад +2

      Imagine being an architect and saying "I won't need physics or engineering" that's what being an author and saying "I don't need a story structure" is like... 🙄

    • @crix_h3eadshotgg992
      @crix_h3eadshotgg992 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@blobymcblobfaceguys he didn’t say that “The Second Story” is saying it, no need to feed it.

  • @Bragendesh
    @Bragendesh 2 месяца назад +2

    You have breathed new life into my writing. Every time I've tried to work on a big project I've gotten mired in structures and archetypes and all that jazz and it never fails to stall me completely.
    I have much to think about. Thank you!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  2 месяца назад

      I'm really glad I could help! Sometimes all your really need is to see the process from a different perspective. Thank you for watching! Good luck with your writing!

  • @typreegamingtpg2198
    @typreegamingtpg2198 3 месяца назад +3

    22:00 Saw the South Park writers talk about this once. I didn’t fully get it at first, but I think the longer explanation given in this video helped me understand it.

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 2 месяца назад

      I was gonna comment “someone watched the South Park cameo on that MTV show” lol

  • @disenchanter
    @disenchanter 24 дня назад

    this just took so much weight off of me. i knew there had to be an easier way, and this is so fruitful, it makes everything else feel not only reachable, but utterly tangible and intuitive.
    thank you, yoy might have just saved my book series from never being completed. i'm so excited for the future of my writing. thank you, again

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  23 дня назад

      I'm so glad that my video could help you get excited about writing again! I really do think that training our minds to understand how story structure works, rather than relying on the pre-made structures of formulas, results not just in better storytelling and a more intuitive understanding of structure (as you said), but a more enjoyable writing experience. Good luck with your book series! And thank you so much for watching and for this wonderful comment!

  • @allycat2836
    @allycat2836 4 месяца назад +4

    You used my favorite movies that I've seen a million times, so I understood the mini arc plot plan. I'm going to look for it in the book I'm currently reading. I'm already remembering the "therefore's" from what I've read to this point. This will help me with my own novel moving forward. Thank you.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +2

      They are really, really good movies. I'm glad I was able to help you! Thank you for watching and happy writing!

  • @DJ-tg3lr
    @DJ-tg3lr Месяц назад

    Thank you for this video. Ive been stuck working on the same script for over a year now. And ive read books, listened to writers on yt trying to solve the problems i couldnt articulate with it. And you summarized it and gave me the solution in 20 minutes. This was really helpful 😅

  • @jinchaoz
    @jinchaoz 4 месяца назад +35

    I am not even through the whole video yet and I am already convinced that I will learn something valuable. By minute 4 you already outlined all my thoughts and problems. I'm going to watch the rest now, you have my full attention.

    • @astrothsknot
      @astrothsknot 4 месяца назад +3

      as soon as she said it's techniques not fomulas, i hit sub

    • @winterhaydn
      @winterhaydn 4 месяца назад +1

      I was enthralled by the halfway point when we've already encountered 4 mini arcs.

    • @Murdo2112
      @Murdo2112 4 месяца назад

      Agreed.
      Two minutes in and I'm subscribed and thinking
      "Oh, I'm saving this to listen to at work".

  • @Rob.Richards
    @Rob.Richards Месяц назад

    This genuinely might be the ONLY RUclips video anyone needs to watch when learning to properly craft a story! You've proven my unsaid suspicions of story structures and showcased the importance of using basic principles to create something new. You're a bona fide genius!

  • @ivan-yz5kf
    @ivan-yz5kf 4 месяца назад +3

    You are my goat. Ive been struggling even getting starded. it seemed too daunting of a task to plan out the whole story. The mini arc chart was a perfect visualization.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +1

      This is so wonderful to read! I'm so glad I was able to help you find a way to start. Getting over that first hurdle is big. Good luck going forward! Thanks for watching and happy writing!

  • @VidhathShetty
    @VidhathShetty Месяц назад +1

    You described pacing beautifully. Pacing is now a progression of time which is relatively experienced and shared by characters and us not how much time has passed. It's not what we see but how we digest the scenes. Thank you for the insight.

  • @cristianhakansson7443
    @cristianhakansson7443 4 месяца назад +2

    This makes so much more sense to me than prescriptive plot structures, all of which invariably fail to match the story I'm trying to tell in some way (usually many ways)!

  • @decofmanythings
    @decofmanythings 11 дней назад

    It's amazing how well this condenses a large amount of what I learned and studied over a semester of uni writing courses.

  • @ViralBitsdotcom
    @ViralBitsdotcom 4 месяца назад +3

    I’ve never thought of this. Now the plotting of The Hangover makes sense. Each piece of the puzzle as to where Doug is is a mini-arc.

  • @Styx_Gym
    @Styx_Gym 25 дней назад

    This was THE most articulate video on storytelling I have ever watched. All of a sudden, I can think of hundreds of examples of beats in stories I have consumed because of your explanation. Thank you SO much for this. Your ability to explain and create is nothing short of amazing. I’ll definitely be showing this to all of my writer friends ❤

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  25 дней назад +1

      Thank you! I'm so glad it clicked with you! Once I started seeing these mini-arcs it was like a veil had been drawn back and I was finally understanding how story structure actually worked. I'm really glad my explanation was clear enough that I could impart that same sensation! Thank you very much for watching and for your support!

  • @techiyew
    @techiyew 23 дня назад +4

    for all the writting gurus on this app, she is the only one who actually gives structured advice and not only random pointers

  • @goodkiller93
    @goodkiller93 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for this! I have written several novels, but any time I tried to plot stories with formulaic story structures, the stories felt boring and uninspired.
    This mini-arc approach is something I've done instinctively, but having it vocalized had helped me understand why the times I strayed from this caused my books to fall apart.

  • @BetterPlaces2024
    @BetterPlaces2024 Месяц назад

    You just explained the pacing and the arcs in way that made it so easy to pick up and learn! Truly, thank you 🙏

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! I'm really glad it was clear, and I hope it can help you with your own storytelling! Thank you for watching!

  • @parker_pumpyt
    @parker_pumpyt 4 месяца назад +4

    this was the most helpful video on writing I've watched so far! thank you, and I would love to see more advice from you!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm so glad it was helpful! I'm already working on more videos, so I hope they can prove helpful, too. Thanks so much for watching!

    • @parker_pumpyt
      @parker_pumpyt 4 месяца назад

      @@The-Second-Story great to hear! I'm sure they'll be just as helpful.

  • @GleamDrawz
    @GleamDrawz 5 дней назад

    This is the first time I’ve ever been able to pinpoint what was wrong with the beginning of my story. It starts with basically an info dump of his backstory because I feel like it’s needed to show why he hates the gods so much, but now I know what to actually do. Thank you!

  • @joyburn
    @joyburn 4 месяца назад +4

    I found this video extremely helpful, and I hope you break down more fundamental principles in the future like you did here. I was able to understand everything, especially with all of the great examples and graphics that you used. Subbed.
    -someone who has never written anything, but has a cool idea (he thinks)
    P.S. That keyboard looks loud asf "KLAK KLAK KLAK" lol

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm so glad it was helpful (and understandable! it's hard to know if I'm getting my idea across or not). Thank you for watching!
      (p.s. It used to be but it's not anymore! I customized it, it's very buttery. Otherwise I'd wake half the neighborhood at one in the morning with my thunderous turbo-typing)

  • @mikesmyth8515
    @mikesmyth8515 3 месяца назад +2

    I loved listening to you. You lay things out so logically and so convincingly. I glommed onto the word "pacing" because I've heard Grisham discuss it in his work as the indispensable and adjustable ingredient that makes his stories so readable, so compulsively readable. My story has languished. You've lit a fire under my butt by your well thought out ideas and your clear, concise explanations. I didn't know how to proceed but now I do -- I've got a map in my back pocket, thanks to you.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for this comment! It really means a lot that my videos can help people find the joy in writing again, and also find a map to put in their back pockets. Thank you for watching, and for your support! Happy writing!

  • @TonBil1
    @TonBil1 4 месяца назад +4

    The tip towards the end to use the "Therefore..." to connect mini-arcs - that was the eye-opener for me. Therefore, I'm going to pace my stories better from now on ;-)

  • @HybridCalisthenics
    @HybridCalisthenics 20 дней назад +1

    Great video - looking forward to seeing more!

  • @MammothBehemoth
    @MammothBehemoth 4 месяца назад +22

    This is why I find most of Netflix Originals boring. Unless written by an actual writer-creator, it is mostly algorithm written. Not Ai necessarily, but algorithm driven in terms of plot points, elements, music, actors, direcror choices, etc., and the pacing is always stretched more than it has to be

  • @moonslitfiction
    @moonslitfiction Месяц назад

    GIRRRRLLLLLLL this video is EVERYTHING! thank you!!!! currently on a WIP for a paranormal fiction trilogy and this was better than every video I've watched on the 3 act structure and hero's journey!!!

  • @drumbarpuncture
    @drumbarpuncture 5 месяцев назад +24

    Yes, please keep making more videos. If you can expound more on how mini-arcs can constitute an entire story in a satisfying way, that would help get this video's point across even more.
    I'm also curious about your take on character development/change and how it adds to a story.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  5 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you for your support, it means a lot! I would like to make more videos in the future that go further into the concept of mini-arcs. There are a lot of interesting ways to use them.
      Character creation and development is a subject near and dear to my heart. In the future I intend to make quite a few videos on that topic. Thank you so much for the suggestion!

  • @DanielForce8
    @DanielForce8 24 дня назад +2

    I think this is my first RUclips comment. I've watched over 200 hours of different author's giving their perspective as I try to finish my first novel in 2025. After all of that content, this video felt like a revelation. I kept trying to force my novel's structure into 3 act and then into the 7 point framework. Neither felt natural. Your video and channel are highly underrated. Thank you for freeing me from the shackles of too many frameworks!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  23 дня назад

      This comment was so wonderful to read, thank you! I'm so glad that my video was so helpful. It seems like it found you at just the right time, too. Good luck with your novel! And thank you again!

  • @abdiasnemo2634
    @abdiasnemo2634 4 месяца назад +9

    Dam, it's crazy that I've been doing this unconsciously. I am going to re-read my story for the 100 time and mark each mini arc. I am sure something interesting will come out of it.

    • @abdiasnemo2634
      @abdiasnemo2634 4 месяца назад +2

      I finally find out why my story pacing feels too fast! It's because I have multiple mini arcs going on at the same time.
      I can finally fix what I don't like, and whenever I want to create fast pacing, I now know how!

  • @codajett9944
    @codajett9944 8 дней назад

    Thank you. What you shared broke a trail that I had been struggling to find. You gave me clear landmarks to follow and a simple map to explain the hazards I should encounter.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  8 дней назад

      I'm glad my video could help you find the path you were looking for! Good luck, and thank you for watching!

  • @jerrel.writes
    @jerrel.writes 4 месяца назад +6

    IMMEDIATE sub. This is amazing writing advice. You give favorite english teacher vibes. Thank you

  • @blairfarrington1396
    @blairfarrington1396 Месяц назад

    Thank you for your valuable perspective on pacing. There’s so many things you need to get right to tell a compelling story, but your input shakes up the 3 act structure. I’d love to hear more of your insightful writing wisdom.

  • @electra6821
    @electra6821 4 месяца назад +3

    Wow, thanks. I found this very useful.
    I wonder, however, if you could break this down even further, examining perhaps, how many arcs to use, or how many scenes to include in an arc, or how to intersperse subplots, etc. Obviously, this would change according to the speed of pacing you're after, your genre, or other stylistic goals one has. But I would really like to see an analysis of a short-ish novel--say 70,000 to 80,000 words. I know this is something you suggest that we do ourselves,😊but it would be really helpful to see a demonstration.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +3

      I'm so glad my video could help you! I have considered breaking this down even further. This video was originally twice as long. I've thought that perhaps, if there was some interest, in the future I could make a video that was a more advanced examination of this idea. How multiple arcs can be used to structure long, tense scenes (like the opening scene in Inglorious Basterds, which was at least eight arcs), or how arcs can outline conversations and dialogue. A person could use many short arcs to break up a long scene with a lot of exposition (like the opening lunch party in War & Peace). I had originally thought to include in this video a rather lengthy example of how to make the arcs of one story's three timelines overlap thematically. I'd be concerned that mapping out a whole novel would make for a too-long video (a few hours, I'm sure)? Which I'd be happy to do if it would be helpful. But would any of these other factors be the type of examination you might find helpful in the meantime? Thanks for watching, by the way!

    • @EmonEconomist
      @EmonEconomist 4 месяца назад

      @@The-Second-Story All of that sounds super interesting!

  • @jeremyjackson7353
    @jeremyjackson7353 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve always wanted to write a fantasy novel. I’ve just started researching for the best way to go about it or how I should be thinking towards accomplishing this goal. The format discussed here is how I will be going about this. Thank you.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  Месяц назад

      I'm glad my video could help! Good luck on your fantasy novel, I love that genre so much! And thank you for watching!

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 4 месяца назад +7

    I thought this was a really good explanation.
    There are endless 'explanations' of story structure on RUclips, that often last 2 1/2 hours and it's all theoretical.
    You explain it succinctly "and bring receipts" as the latest fashionable phrase has it. ( Nothing dates a film more than the inclusion of a once trendy phrase that someone thought looked good in the script + Of course, I've done the same thing here, but let's overlook that!).
    A story is organic, a by-numbers approach leads to mechanical storytelling, and yes, each scene must be dynamic in itself or else what's the point? But I also think that you must attend to the step by step progress of the story, the planning, so to speak. It's hard work bur actually more important, in my opinion, than a clever line or lovingly crafted prose. A story must _WORK_ or you shortchange the reader. You're taking them on a journey and you have to deliver satisfaction. Or else, they're thinking "What was the point of that?"
    I'm working on graphic novels, so visuals also carry narrative weight, not just words, but the outcome must still satisfy the reader.
    Thanks for a great explication!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for watching! And thank you for your comment. I couldn't agree more. While I love good prose as much as the next reader, nothing is more important than the story. Nothing! If a writer learns nothing else, it must be how to tell a story well. Thanks again, and happy writing!

  • @blairfarrington1396
    @blairfarrington1396 Месяц назад

    Thanks!

  • @goodkiller93
    @goodkiller93 4 месяца назад +13

    Screw it, I'll write a second comment. This needs to be taught in schools.

  • @nimbumamu1347
    @nimbumamu1347 4 месяца назад +2

    Probably the most eye opening video on storytelling I've come across. Thank you so much for this, it's as if there had been blindfolds over my eyes that i didn't know were there, and now i know, thanks to you removing them.

  • @bethezebra
    @bethezebra 4 месяца назад +4

    Congratulations. I now dub this approach the mini-arc formula disguised as not being a formula. LOL. 😂 Just practicing my plot twist chops. 🙄 Haha this was really good, though, thank you!

  • @LizLiz_._.
    @LizLiz_._. 20 дней назад

    This video just solved my problem. I swear i was so lost in my story, had the beggining had idea for the end and empty void in the middle. You helped me so much, thank you ❤

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  20 дней назад

      That empty void in the middle was always my greatest enemy as well. It really does make it so much less overwhelming to approach it this way. I really hope it helps you with your story! Good luck and thank you for watching!

  • @isabelnightly4408
    @isabelnightly4408 4 месяца назад +4

    This came just in time for me to write my first full length novel!

    • @gizzellemcleish1837
      @gizzellemcleish1837 4 месяца назад

      Me too! And funnily enough, I've been trying to understand the three act structure in order to adapt my story to it and it's been really confusing for me. This video is so helpful because I understood it!

  • @emeralddraegon
    @emeralddraegon 6 дней назад

    I have tried to find a plotting formula that I can mash my story into (to give me some guidance), but the problem is there are so many little ends wiggling about, or even a great big chunk of story that doesn't seem to fit, that I find it impossible. I like your 'lots of little arcs' way of writing and it is honestly the best fit for the story I'm writing.
    Ultimately I decided I would have to do my own thing and either readers will love it or they won't, but at least I'll have written the story I wanted to tell. I'm happy to hear I'm not the only one who thinks this is a good idea!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  5 дней назад

      I think, at the end of the day, that's the only thing we can do. Learning structure and getting a good feel for it will happen over time, but it's always better to just write the story we want to write!
      Thank you for watching!

  • @john_colter
    @john_colter 4 месяца назад +4

    Your insight harmonizes with Alan Watt, who's said you don't learn to write a story by studying deconstructed story elements. Also makes me think of stock trading indicators, which all look at past results and cannot predict the future.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +2

      That's an excellent way to put it, and I completely agree. Your stock trading analogy is also apt. Analysis is one thing. But building something from scratch is different. And building something from scratch really is a lot like predicting the future, because you have to try to guess how it's all going to fit together and play out. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @Colorlightt
    @Colorlightt 4 месяца назад +2

    I greatly appreciate how articulate flexible and concise you are in describing these principles. It's almost a relief. Tempo, Rhythm, logical progression of plot. Very very helpful and insightful thank you :)

  • @ZaccoOfficial
    @ZaccoOfficial 4 месяца назад +2

    Yes!!! Mini-Arcs are so good!

  • @joshe694
    @joshe694 2 дня назад

    You should definitely make more videos! This is the first I've ever seen of your's, and this one video singlehandedly got me pumped to start writing again. I've been struggling, but this is the first time in years I heard something that gave me hope I can succeed. Thank you so much!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  2 дня назад

      Thank you! It really means so much to know that my video has renewed someone's hope in their own writing! I have several other videos on my channel, if you haven't already seen them. And I'm nearly done with my next one! Thank you so much for watching!

    • @joshe694
      @joshe694 2 дня назад

      @The-Second-Story I stumbled on this video by accident while listening to music, but I took notes and will definitely be watching the rest of them and anything else you put out. I've had a lot of setbacks, but now I know I can take better steps in the right direction. Thanks again, this is some high class information.

  • @youtubeviolatedme7123
    @youtubeviolatedme7123 5 месяцев назад +3

    This adds context to the Oppenheimer video.
    Some scenes in that movie didn't even really have a climax, so it felt like an entire scene was just rising action merely suggesting that something interesting might break the equilibrium the scene kept reinforcing, only so that no central piece of information could be taken away by the audience to go into the next scene. This not only meant that some scenes felt either pointless or redundant, but that the audience is left unsure as to which information is important, which forces them to pay an extreme amount of attention to every piece of information just in case it might be relevant later.
    Such inept revelation of information to the audience screwed up the pacing by forcing the transition between achronological scenes to be based on the most arbitrary things, like characters discussing some chemical compound that has an almost negligible connection to the plot and characters (that's literally an example one of the movie's editors mentioned in an interview, and I feel bad for the torture they endured trying to make that movie coherent).

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, completely! A story that is essentially a collection of first halves of sentences makes the audience feel like they're constantly holding their breath, waiting for the reveal, the turn, the moment when everything aligns neatly. But it never came. And the constant lack of rhythm was very straining to the audience's attention. Like you said, a person either has to focus way too hard, or their focus constantly drifts because the storyteller isn't guiding them even in the tiniest way. I can't imagine trying to edit such a thing coherently; it certainly helps to explain why the thing was so, so, so long.

    • @winterhaydn
      @winterhaydn 4 месяца назад +1

      Are you saying the writing was bad? I haven't seen the movie. But wading through so much trivia to get to a real story sounds terrible.

    • @youtubeviolatedme7123
      @youtubeviolatedme7123 4 месяца назад

      @@winterhaydn The root problem with Oppenheimer is that it lacks focus, and that cascades into further issues. I could genuinely write several pages of criticism towards the movie, but for the sake of brevity, I'll recommend watching the first video on this channel, which tears the movie apart comprehensively.

  • @vinson1445
    @vinson1445 День назад

    I do this! But I never realized I did until you explained it. This is probably the best advice I've ever seen anyone give.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  День назад

      That's so often what happens! We pick up so much from taking in stories throughout our lives so we know a lot intuitively, but we just sometimes need someone to say it out loud for it to fully activate, so to speak. Thank you for watching! I'm glad it helped!

  • @superwormhalz2607
    @superwormhalz2607 4 месяца назад +3

    Very helpful thank you

  • @Neia_eleni
    @Neia_eleni 4 месяца назад +1

    Your description of this principle really sparked the motivation pilot. I appreciate the comprehensive way you walked us through the relatable mistakes that every aspiring storyteller or wishful thinker (aka me) experience. It makes it feel like I can attempt this as well, despite my experience. Thank you for sharing this insight! I look forward to more of your videos! 🙌

  • @yohan2481
    @yohan2481 Месяц назад +3

    can you please make video on scene structure like writer Brandon McNulty told that there are two types of scene action scene and reaction scene so can you also make a video on scene structure please

  • @lxshwa
    @lxshwa 2 месяца назад

    I’m definitely following your channel, you’re explaining everything so well and take the pressure out of writing which most content and advice these days results in. Also love that you give examples, i’m not comprehending anything if do not have an example.

  • @epiphoney
    @epiphoney 4 месяца назад +3

    Have you written any novels? Or which one would you recommend with good pacing?

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  4 месяца назад +7

      Written but not published (we'll see what the future holds...) Most books that I consider "good" have very successful pacing. It just disappears into the backgroud because it's executed well enough to never call attention to itself. But if I could pluck two in particular off my shelf, I'd say Michael Strogoff by Jules Verne and The Fisherman by John Langan. Michael Strogoff is written in a very straightforward manner but the rhythm of the story is flawless. It's simple and uncomplicated, so you can really see the mini-arc format and also see how well it works. A lot of classic novels are like this. I like recommending The Fisherman because Langan's plot format is unusual, but the pacing is so perfectly maintained that the strange flow of the story never feels off in any way. It's a great example of how using this method allows a writer to tell any story any way. These are just two examples, but I hope they're helpful. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @myfictionalthoughts
    @myfictionalthoughts Месяц назад

    I've been really struggling with moving my plot forward because the structures that everyone is teaching don't work for me and I'm so glad I found your channel! Thank you so much for this insight.

  • @sheridansherr8974
    @sheridansherr8974 3 месяца назад +1

    I love your approach! 💖 So refreshing! I'm so tired of the "copycating" everywhere. Cars, movies, all similar and soulless... Products and "content" . Thank you for pointing this out in literature.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  3 месяца назад +1

      That is exactly how it feels when so many writers use the same pre-made formulas over and over, like copies. Thank you very much for watching!

  • @trousleperson632
    @trousleperson632 23 дня назад

    Im a college student who wants to on make children’s literature on the side and I just want to say THANK YOU! Schools these days teach young children these formulas which then gets engrained into our Brians. You help me find a fun way to write again. Thank you

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  22 дня назад +1

      I agree! I think it's so important to learn structure instead of formulas. Being able to build our own story structures is such an important skill for us writers! I'm so glad I could help you make writing fun and enjoyable. Thank you so much for watching!

  • @shawnraborn6637
    @shawnraborn6637 4 месяца назад

    I can’t express this enough, your message and delivery is so clear and concise. I’m immediately subscribed. I cannot wait to see more content from you. Absolutely incredible video

  • @NyxsM3lody
    @NyxsM3lody Месяц назад

    I've just started researching how to write the books that have been living in my head for years and out of all the research I've done so far your methods have been the most intuitive and helpful. Please keep uploading! (Or more regularly) I need all the info on your perspective of it as yours makes the most sense to me 😅

  • @OGCAL1K
    @OGCAL1K Месяц назад

    This helped me greatly. Because I'm trying to write my first book and I did get stuck. I have the beginning and the ending but how to get there has been the struggle so I thank you for this truly. This is also the first video of this kind that I've come across so keep making these!

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  29 дней назад

      I'm so glad it could help you! I hope my videos can keep helping. I'll keep making them as long as people want to watch them. Thank you for your support!

  • @yurri-homare
    @yurri-homare 3 месяца назад

    i'm beyond grateful for this godsend of a video to reach my eyes. i've been stuck on how to write two stories for a good while, and learning about pacing helped me significantly. i always learn better with examples, so i really do appreciate the way you explain everything! i hope to see more videos like this!

  • @faec.8950
    @faec.8950 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so so much for this! I have been studying structure, and for the life of me, I absolutely could not get a good story full of life out of following the three acts. I was beginning to feel like I was just no good at this, but this video has given me so much hope. I can definitely study this and apply this. Seriously, thank you!!

  • @leolair4684
    @leolair4684 2 месяца назад

    That’s the first concrete and useful writing advice I’m hearing so thank you very much 🙏🏻

  • @Brennannnnnnnnn
    @Brennannnnnnnnn Месяц назад

    The way you think and structure your thoughts is like water for my soul. Thank you so much.

  • @Westwardsir
    @Westwardsir 4 месяца назад +2

    Fantastic breakdown and example. This helped solidify a concept that I've known about but never quite had a useful grasp on. I hope to see more content from you in the future.

  • @Azisbow3736
    @Azisbow3736 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much. I had such a lightbulb moment when you started talking about mini arcs. It's the most useful writing advice i have received. Writing my novel seems to be so much less daunting now.

    • @The-Second-Story
      @The-Second-Story  Месяц назад +1

      That's great! That was how I felt when the the reality of mini-arcs finally became clear to me! I'm glad it could help you, too. Thank you for watching! Good luck with your novel!

    • @Azisbow3736
      @Azisbow3736 Месяц назад

      @The-Second-Story Good luck to you too ! 🤎

  • @Jay45430
    @Jay45430 3 месяца назад

    Thanks!

  • @LonnieSimpson-j6w
    @LonnieSimpson-j6w 4 месяца назад

    Your breakdown of pacing is eye-opening. I've struggled with understanding exactly how to do that for some time now, and your breakdown is just the breakthrough I need to move my novel forward. Five stars!!!