No Human Can Beat This Dubious Gambit Bot

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

Комментарии • 64

  • @Fireball_Roberts
    @Fireball_Roberts Год назад +34

    This bot succeeded in trolling me. I thought I was going to win on time, but what happened was it found a complex mate in 7 and then intentionally drained its clock before playing it out. It basically slow rolled me.

    • @ThomasEmmanuel-xs4ku
      @ThomasEmmanuel-xs4ku 5 месяцев назад

      How do I get the bot on lichess

    • @Fireball_Roberts
      @Fireball_Roberts 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ThomasEmmanuel-xs4ku You can add it as a friend but sadly the bot hasn't been active in a year.

  • @Workhorse1011
    @Workhorse1011 Год назад +97

    Bot reminds me of GM Hambleton: “When you see mate in 1, look for better!”

  • @SchubertDipDab
    @SchubertDipDab Год назад +3

    This is fascinating as a relative newbie. I just used this opening and some of the ideas after watching - it utterly destroyed one of the bots I usually use for learning. Wow. Thanks for sharing!

  • @cpt_mookie
    @cpt_mookie Год назад +17

    The only improvement that I can think of for the bot is the function to BM your opponent. For example, if the bot has mate on its next move, it should hold for 10 seconds to give the opponent an opportunity to resign.

    • @Xbotto
      @Xbotto Год назад +8

      when the bot wins it tells you in the chat "GG and i mean get good"

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 Год назад +1

      There are plenty of possible improvements. To name a few, it could always sacrifice material as long as doing so wouldn't drop more than a set percentage of the evaluation; it could choose the most aggressive (easy to train a neural network to recognise aggressive moves) option available if no sacrifice is possible; it could try to play "in the spirit" of the openings in the database, etc.

  • @babstra55
    @babstra55 Год назад +27

    I always thought this was the way to go after engines got so strong they beat super GMs with piece odds. it's so pointless to watch people analyse 0.1 pawn differences in engine lines when the engine can beat anyone a piece down. the tiny differences are irrelevant to human play because engine strength masks anything subtler than piece odds. so it's much more useful to see how this bot proves us that dubious gambits are completely playable.

    • @eliasvonbrille
      @eliasvonbrille Год назад +2

      You just pointed out that odds that would be significant for a human don't really matter for the engine and then right after you said that it proves that Dubious gambit are "completely playable".
      No man. You were right with your first take. Dubious gambits are very bad and will usually lose humans the game because we don't usually outmatch our opponent by enough that odds don't matter.
      You just argued that Dubious gambits aren't that bad because the 3000 rated(?) engine can beat humans with it.
      After that logic blundering two clean pawns in the opening would be "completely playable" as well.

    • @babstra55
      @babstra55 Год назад +1

      @@eliasvonbrille if an engine can find moves to win those games, the same moves exist in the position for all of us. therefore those gambits are winnable against any human. that's the truth of the position.

    • @Gian_sas
      @Gian_sas Год назад +1

      @@babstra55 the engine can also find moves to beat other bots, so it's possible for humans to win against a 9999999 rated bot just because the moves are there???

    • @babstra55
      @babstra55 Год назад

      @@Gian_sas yes. of course it's possible, if the moves exist in the position. that's what the truth of the position means. it's not a subjective concept.

    • @Gian_sas
      @Gian_sas Год назад

      @@babstra55 it's not possible for any human and it will never be. It's practically impossible, not theorically. The only reason why it would be possible is because of the million monkeys paradox.

  • @dougveganparadisebuilder5808
    @dougveganparadisebuilder5808 Год назад +27

    This bot shows you that if you are strong enough you can make any dubious gambit not look dubious?

  • @exuviumisopods
    @exuviumisopods Год назад +6

    Wow. The band Rage Against the Machine now makes absolute sense.

  • @takemebacktothen
    @takemebacktothen Год назад +8

    7:50 the castle killed me

  • @alancoe1002
    @alancoe1002 Год назад +5

    I think that this is one of the most interesting segments you've ever shown us. A vast resource has opened, not unlike a Venus Flytrap. We KNOW that we are the flies. And yet...

  • @leomessi5975
    @leomessi5975 Год назад +4

    "No Human can beat This Dubious Opening Bot"
    *Meanwhile Magnus laughing in corner*

  • @plywoodcarjohnson5412
    @plywoodcarjohnson5412 Год назад +7

    This is a great opening. This being the only tutorial I have ever seen! I won 7 out of 8 games. And I remember just the first 4 moves and the main ideas. (Bullfrog gambit)

  • @lucasbraesch805
    @lucasbraesch805 Год назад +1

    I've played bots on lichess, and in my experience, they are 300-400 elo underrated, because they almost exclusively play each other, almost never play humans in rated games. Johnathan never stood a chance. It wasn't even close. He should try a 2000 elo bot instead.

  • @chesscrush
    @chesscrush Год назад +2

    I just played a 50 move game against the bot and tried some shenanigans in the opening with a3 h4 trying to confuse it. I'm 2550 so actually higher rated than the bot and it completely outplayed me. I made 3 inaccuracies in the whole game 2 of them in the opening and it only made 1... I don't care that it beat me but at least give it a proper rating. No 2500 plays a perfect game for over 50 loves lmao.

  • @toastbrot97
    @toastbrot97 Год назад +5

    Jonathan shranz: "it might not be so easy to find a mate".
    Me who has been single for over 5 years can relate to that.

  • @isaacschrantz3098
    @isaacschrantz3098 Год назад +25

    This guy is educational and fun.

  • @chemicalexposure8537
    @chemicalexposure8537 Год назад +21

    You should totally try to get the Nakhmanson against this thing. Or the Wagon!

    • @BunterAu
      @BunterAu Год назад

      How the fuck is Alice?

    • @irjake
      @irjake Год назад +3

      No need to try, just challenge "from position" and you can play this bot in any gambit you want.

  • @SkylordBrebro
    @SkylordBrebro Год назад +2

    Is there a way to play this bot locally?

  • @pokerstar2926
    @pokerstar2926 Год назад +2

    8:30 schrantz has had the position 1000000 times
    8:35 this position has occured 7000 times on lichess
    ..this math ain't addin up

  • @chavonlarmond6987
    @chavonlarmond6987 Год назад +3

    I need a Gmhikaru video against this bot.

  • @georges64
    @georges64 Год назад

    Fun, thx! (You have a problem for sound at least in beginning of the video after h4)

  • @Wesz808
    @Wesz808 Год назад +4

    It's superinteresting because gambits are meant to trick and use the human way of thinking and exploiting emotions like greed.

  • @dunnperfect8567
    @dunnperfect8567 Год назад

    How do you play the bot?

  • @overlayklips3382
    @overlayklips3382 Год назад

    The bot was thinking "silly human"

  • @BramCohen
    @BramCohen Год назад +3

    It's probably using Stockfish with the values tweaked to undervalue material, like it says in the name

  • @pushingyourownagenda9889
    @pushingyourownagenda9889 Год назад

    This bot is hilarious,
    It says "gg ,i mean get good" after winning the game

  • @thegambitbandit5020
    @thegambitbandit5020 Год назад

    How do you access this bot on Lichess?

    • @DavidChong
      @DavidChong Год назад

      link is in the video description

  • @phidybee3334
    @phidybee3334 Год назад

    What is the bot called please?

    • @JonathanSchrantz
      @JonathanSchrantz  Год назад

      It's called MaterialIsOverrated and you can check it out here: lichess.org/@/MaterialIsOverrated

    • @phidybee3334
      @phidybee3334 Год назад

      @@JonathanSchrantz thanks Jonathan, btw ❤️ your vids, haven't tried the wagon gambit yet but it's on the to do list

  • @roryclarke3178
    @roryclarke3178 Год назад

    Bullfrog?!? That's the Kilkenny gambit!

  • @user-MetalAngel
    @user-MetalAngel 5 месяцев назад

    Speaks to the limitations of humanity, even though man is the one that created it.

  • @НиколайШерстюк-ы7е

    And then he sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jacobpope9269
    @jacobpope9269 Год назад +1

    This is called the Kill Kenny, by Simon Williams.

  • @joeb4142
    @joeb4142 Год назад

    Lol This was great. Thanks Jonathan!

  • @honkskillet
    @honkskillet Год назад

    I miss your chess content. Come back! ❤

  • @eh5242
    @eh5242 Год назад

    The bot likes to play it it's food

  • @technodreamyt7296
    @technodreamyt7296 Год назад

    I misclicked that knight to a6

  • @OneCyberSoul
    @OneCyberSoul Год назад

    Funny human

  • @SquaredbyX
    @SquaredbyX Год назад

    Or call it the "Tal bot'

  • @leytonhackney4492
    @leytonhackney4492 10 месяцев назад

    You're funny mate. 😁

  • @zach-18082
    @zach-18082 Год назад

    yo.

  • @mauijttewaal
    @mauijttewaal Год назад

    Lol

  • @kaganuz8125
    @kaganuz8125 Год назад

    Day 2 of asking for a video about the Latvian Gambit.

  • @grim_blazer9120
    @grim_blazer9120 Год назад +8

    Day 52 of asking for a video on my funny English lines

    • @tedpaul8391
      @tedpaul8391 Год назад +20

      Day 1 of asking you to stop mentioning your funny English lines

    • @arnoudh6203
      @arnoudh6203 Год назад +3

      You are dedicated, he should be showing your funny English lines

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 Год назад +1

      @@tedpaul8391imagine getting mad at me giving Jonathon 52 days of free engagement lol

  • @radebecena5807
    @radebecena5807 11 месяцев назад

    I like its style , sacrifice for aggressive attack with purpose (win)❤️♟️