Intel NUC 9 Pro Redefining the Edge Workstation and Server Class
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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In our Intel NUC 9 Pro review (model NUC9VXQNX) we check out the new capabilities of this generation code-named "Quartz Canyon." The NUC has an 8 core / 16 thread Intel Xeon processor, ECC memory support, support for up to 225W GPUs. We also found it could support 25GbE/ 100GbE as well as multiple NAND and Optane SSDs.
While the NUC form factor has grown, it is also something that we have seen before. We go into some details around the Intel Beverly Cove platform which was the development platform for the Intel Xeon D-1540 and helped set the stage for OCP Yosemite servers. Today's NUC shares a lot in common with this 5+ year old development platform.
While the main site review is a must-read companion piece with a lot more detail, you can check out some other articles mentioned in this review:
- HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus review: www.servetheho...
- Intel VCA Unboxing: www.servetheho...
You can find the videos for those here:
- HPE MSG10+ Customization Video: • Ultimate Guide for HPE...
- HPE MSG10 v. MSG10+ Differences Video: • HPE ProLiant MicroServ...
- Intel VCA Unboxing Video: • Unboxing the Intel VCA...
this form factor is a lot better for offices where you need high performance computing (m.2 ssds, quadro cards) and space savings. for the price, is not high at all, because imho you have something this small, with these options, and felxibility, that doesn't eat space up. of course i hope for the prices to drop, a lot, but for the beginning it is ok, since you can compare it with laptops of the same caliber in the same price range
great videos Patrick, and i hope that you will cover a lot more stuff in the future, just like other gaming computer channels do, but for the server part of the coin.
Great points. Hopefully adding more RUclips coverage over this year.
But you can have all that and a full cpu inside any descend itx build.
This thing has no market.
If I want compute I would not go for a mobile cpu. Stupid these days. You can run ryzen 3950 at 65W tdp and have more io. More cores, faster ssds and it's still cheaper...
@@justacomment1657 you are absolutely right. but if you are not a system builder, and you just want to buy a prebuilt with this form factor, you don't have a choice. small form factors exist, but not this small, and not implemented as this. plus the PCIe CPU board can be easily replaced for upgradeability, or you can, maybe (i know nothing about it) add another CPU board for clustering, or maybe mirroring if you wish for a small comapact, let's say VM server. and examples can go on as long as there is, even small, a market place for this. but as i already said, at a better price point.
@@am0risca yeah might be... But no... It is way to big to fit the 'I need something slim' on my desk niche (office pcs).
And it does not pack enough power nor features to thread workstations.
But it is essential priced like a low tier workstation....
Well I guess future will tell. 👌
Sounds like a Proxmox Small Cluster Solution for HPC at events, fairs etc. to me. Especially because if there is the need for fast networking 100G for SAN like Ceph or so, I would connect them with DAC to an Mellanox SN2100 - so 7 NUCs with dual Uplink, packed with RAM & NVMe and 2 Ports for Uplink for the Event. / Or smaller SN2010 + 4 NUCS with a 100G Dualport where one 100G is for Storage and a "networking" Port to 25G via Adapter. Also the rest of the switch (14 Ports) could be used für 10/25G Uplink or as a "user" switch with 1G RJ45 Ports.
From my experiance on tradeshows like hannover messe or datacenter world in Frankfurt I had never more than 12 wired devices. (Yes the small TP-Link 8 Port switch were to small for it)
I'd have preferred they kept the 7th gen form factor (and price!). Those make absolutely brilliant tiny home hypervisors. I'm not sure what I'll replace my fully loaded 7th gen with when the time comes.
I have the Ghost Canyon version of this with the i7-9750H in it.
I have a pair of DDR4 2666Mhz 32GB memory modules installed giving me 64GB of RAM.
It is great as a Hyper-V host for a bunch of Windows and Linux VM's.
>no IPMI or 10G LAN
fucking DROPPED
jk, great video as usual Patrick!
Intel should make a expansion board that is full atx... So you can stick multiple Cards into it and build a cluster
100 percent on this. Discussed it a bit on the main site piece.
I don't get it.. who is this for? If you don't want expansion, there's tons of smaller cheaper systems. If you do want expansion, just go mATX? What am I missing? It's only a few centimeters smaller than a decent mATX system while being reliant on non-standard components
Agreed
At 5 liters it's roughly only a fifth the size of a small mATX chassi. So what you get is a heck of a lot of power in a very tiny form factor.
On the other hand, I'm still waiting Phantom Canyon, the true Canyon series NUC to come out.
Take a shot every time he says "solution"
Is it available with Ryzen processor?
No. NUC (Next Unit Computing) is an Intel product.
Nice.
Would love to see some thermal tests/benchmarks/CPU frequency charts.
Head over to ‘Level1Tech’ & ‘Gamers Nexus’ and watch their review.
i hope that they update this thing pretty quick to pcie gen4 with the next CPU generation
because double the bandwidth would be great.
ps: Video has noticeable quality improvements 👌
PCI-E 4 is rather pointless. Sure, in some instances a slight (such as 2-5 percent) performance increase can be seen. But that's it.
Could you please allow automatic subtitles on your videos? They're disabled on this and your other videos.
It seems like the subtitles take some time. The videos from 10+ days ago have them, but this and yesterday's AMD EPYC 7F52 videos do not yet.
Patrick, did you try putting JUST the compute card in a "normal" motherboard? Does it still work, with onboard graphics? This would be my use case: 2nd streaming PC housed in the same case.
The pcie slot has to be providing pcie as a 'host', not 'client'. It doesn't work like that.
Have seen a video of it working
So Ghost Canyon for games and entertainment and Quartz Canyon for the microserver. I didn't see this one coming, it looks like this is the first NUC line to feature a Xeon processor.
I'd check this out if my Denverton platform wasn't still horrendously underutilized.
Will the Xeon E "entry" series goes in both workstations and servers. This is designed to in many ways cover both use cases
This would be great to use as a VM host. Do you think it can also handle triple A gaming titles?
The most important thing about the nuc 9 is the logic board, be it the gamer or the "pro" board, both have the pcie bus exposed so you could go old school cray and create a cluster of them using pcie as interconnenct bus
I would love to see a platform like this become the standard 'cookie cutter' format for storage arrays in 2U / 4U servers.
then again, we're not exactly talking brand new paradigm of computer design, if anyone remembers CPUs on PCI-ish cards?
Will a Quadro P4000/RTX 4000 fit in the expansion slot, or are they too long?
A Quadro RTX 4000 is 9.5" so just a bit too long for this.
Should some one like dell make a AIO with this pcie card build in ?
The industry design of intel is like from a summer consultant did with mspaint...
Nah, they’re not that bad. Certainly not in the league of Apple though, or Microsoft.
in the early 2000s I had a computer on a card. I might still have it in a box somewhere.
“Easier to work inside”???
You have not worked on many small systems right?
They could do a few improvements but it all costs money and this is aimed at certain market!
Plenty of small systems. At this price range, there is room for improvement.
I'm kind of surprised they didn't add 10/multigig Ethernet to these. It's a nice design otherwise!
That would be cool! Intel stuck to the i219-LM (PCH) plus a i210-at NIC here. Totally agree it would have been nice to see at least 2.5GbE and the Intel i225 NIC.
If they want it to be professional 10gig is mandatory.
But on the other hand its slower then matx, jet costs more and features less.
There is technically no market for this thing it has no reason to exist. They could just sell the H series cpus socketable on the current Plattform and solv the problem (wich is ryzens ability to outperform Intel in systems where temperature is a real constraint).
Just sell the notebook chips fit for the current or upcoming socket....
That abortion?
my guess is people will by it (there are people buying imacpros with radeon 580 after all). But technically this thing is DOA...
@@justacomment1657 I'm not sure about Xeons, but they do sell H series core processors socketed as the T series.
We all have that one socketed cousin, don't we?
As the pice of these is now significantly lower, I'm looking at getting one and installing Server 2019 as the OS, however, I'm not sure if the Thunderbolt 3 ports will work for external storage. Can anyone confirm if the TB3 ports work with Server 2019? Thanks.
Do a RUclips search for Intel NUC. They got a lot of RUclips folks to shill it...
I hate to say, but I really can't get excited about anything Intel is doing, if it is not Ryzen, Threadripper or Epyc I hardly notice now.
More specifically that looks like it using ECC registered or buffered RDIMM mutibit error correction ram (not udimm basic ecc single bit error correct)
Xeon E does not support RDIMMs. Only ECC UDIMMs
@@ServeTheHomeVideo it looked like it had registered ram modules in the pictures (18 chips per side plus the buffer/reg chip)
Intel Beverly Cove Xeon D-1540 Node picture so I guess not related to the xeon E
nice video !
Video has echo and i have to strain to hear it
Yes. We completely re-did the studio and sound after this. Still improving
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thank You
Looks like this would make a great home lab server, but bare bones it is about $1,500 here in Switzerland. Nah
Can you stick this nuc into any Motherboard?
No power redundancy, not good enough for server :|
Modern day power supplies are far more reliable than back in the days. Would I run Wall Street on this - no. But as a workstation or a small business server it's more than good enough.
With the price of this NUC, I rather make a mid-high end gaming computer.
That is a great point. It is certainly pricey. Intel would have a tough time if they tried undercutting OEM partners on this.
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Xeon = Overprice 5 years old i9
"This is Patrick" try "I am Patrick" y'know like how a language works.
Very long and pointless review. Sorry.