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@@iso_2013 Well, considering there's also an airbag in the a-pillar (you can see it @1:09 just to the right of his left hand - it has a barcode sticker on it) , I'm not sure just how much better of an idea this is... 😬 I had to route the wiring for my dashcam very carefully when I was installing it in my car because of the same airbag location.
@@BEdmonson85 to my knowledge the only side airbags are in the seat. Which is why I haven't been able to swap to low profile racing seats in my '07 350z. Which sucks as I'm tall as for the stock ones haha (in Aus you can't remove airbag functionality). The A-Pillar trim seems to just cover metal, and even if there was a airbag my clip on mount is on the pillar so if it somehow was to be pushed off, the mount would just go with it.
@@camshand It's a curtain air bag in the headliner. The bar code is on an anchor strap that clips into the A pillar. It'll blow straight down/out to cover the window shoving the headliner/weather strip down and popping the top of the A pillar cover out. So basically if an impact doesn't send the watch flying the airbag deploying probably will. lol
FYI: if you activate dev options (same way you do on any android device) you can select keep awake when charging, so if you managed to actively cool it while charging (maybe with a peltier element) this could work
The only problem I see with a heatsink would be that when the car isn't being used but is parked in direct sunlight, the air temperature inside would increase to the point that it probably wouldn't be able to cool well. Although, I'm not sure it needs to be charging when the car isn't in use.
@@mert2x982 they're inefficient sure, but the cooling for the size is unmatched. The car should be able to provide plenty power for such a small part and a heatsink would only be effective for a little while, not really after it's been cooking half the day. Not to mention there's really not a lot of a pillar. Maybe if the AC was vented to the back though, or mounting over a vent like some cars do.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx I peltier needs it's own heatsink, so this makes no sense. They're more commonly used in applications where the heatsink sits outside of the device, like a mini fridge.
Peltier devices are trash. Require moving heat away from them while also not providing much in cooling. A simple pasted on heatsink with a 40mm fan would be a much better option over a peltier.
That's sick as! I would legit snap neck turn every time I saw a Z until one day I finally got keys to my own. Such an incredible feeling going from playing in a game as a kit to grown up driving IRL as an adult 🤙
Have you checked out the beeline moto? It’s basically this, but for motorcycles. A little round screen that just shows you an arrow and distance info. You could definitely make it work for your car!
Thats actually pretty cool.... Now to make a gauge pod for my TJ. Currently using my apple watch as a turn by turn nav, but this would be so much better.
And it’s extremely robust, doesn’t get compromised by heat like a smartwatch, and since it hasn’t do much internal components the battery lasts much longer. There’s even a power providing adapter if you want to power it by the car/bike. I love mine (i have the bicycle version, which is a bit lighter and does different routings but technically it’s the same) 😁👍
That feeling of making something unique that only existed in your head and now it is a real material thing - is the best feeling any maker can have. Congrats bro!
Use a Beeline! They're designed EXACTLY for this, and being out on the hot sun. I assumed that's what device you would use, and I thought "That's a good idea!"
This is a VERY cool design! Big fan of this. I'd love to see how a V2 turns out with a custom microcontroller, software and round OLED display. It would definitely be possible to do a fully custom system, in which case I could see it being a marketable product!
An alternative for you would be using Beeline Moto GPS, which is a navigation system for motorcycles that has a circular display. You may want to look up a couple reviews of that, it may work mounted on the A pilar and can be used in direct sunlight
The contour gauge is great, another trick is to copy the profile with a wire, get it perfect then scan it, or take a picture of it dead on from a bit of a distance.
I can appreciate the last thing you mentioned about realizing the lack of need for this after putting all that work into trying this first! I know many people would have left that out if their idea didn't work as planned or thrown this video in the trash! Great concept, and I hope you can find a solution in the future if you truly still want it! It is too bad it didn't work because it looked awesome at the end!
i can see it already, the car mod community is going to make a small device that is able to be mounted on any of the front pillars to give arrow; distance; street name in the not so distant future. this just showed this is possible. other companies use the mirror to give camera controls and maps on display while driving.
The easiest way of capturing complex contours is to use something like wire and shape it around the object. A tape line can be helpful to keep the wire coplanar. Any wire that hooks its shape works, I've even used solder in the past
PETG is going to warp, too. Inside the car gets a lot hotter than outside the car. I made a license plate frame from PLA and it sagged in no time. Made one from PETG and it took a little bit longer to sag, but still sagged. The ABS one I made after that has been fine for a while. I also made an iPhone mount that goes in front of the centre cubby above the stock stereo location. The PLA one warped and the phone would no longer fit. Ditto for a PETG one. The ABS one has been fine for a while.
I absolutely love that you call your car a “zed” rather than a “zee”. Here in Scotland, I also call it a Zed. Incredible amount of time and effort went into your video and it shows. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
just for your safety, no 3d printer fumes are safe to inhale. sadly, all filaments release airborne particles that aren't friendly to your lungs. would recommend proper safety if you print very often
2:50 ASA is actually a fairly good material in place of ABS nowadays. Similar thermal characteristics, UV resistant, doesn't stink as bad or put off nearly as much noxious fumes, and Bambu Lab put out a pretty nice Carbon Fiber ASA that has a pretty nice finish on it. (Even though I know that was a pretty good place to plug PCBway)
Interesting you mention ASA, my understanding of why ABS isn't good for your health is the S is Styrene. the S in ASA is also Styrene. Although it may not smell as bad, the VOC's being released are still toxic and should be treated with care. It's probably because I come from a background working at a University where safety was a priority so we had proper ventilation. So at home, I'm not willing to risk my long term health by rolling the dice without adequate ventilation. In general though, ASA solves a lot of pain points of ABS when 3D printing. I'm planning to add ducted fume extraction for my laser cutters, and hopefully can add the enclosed X1C into the pipes.
@@camshand Fair point. I suppose since I've kinda been learning as I go, I've kinda missed that bit. I also trusted the integrated carbon filter to catch most of the VOC's, but know it's not a silver bullet. Also coming from previously owning an Anet A8 (an open-air cartesian printer known for catching on fire if you didn't upgrade some critical bits) I never got to play with some of the styrene-based materials, so I'm less experienced with handling it. I also did some cursory research before working with ASA, since I kinda was concerned regarding the VOCs, and _allegedly_ it puts off less fumes compared to ABS, but I'm not certain if that means less styrene in general. I aughta look and see if someone in a lab setting actually did some tests on that. I'd love to have an X1E that has the better filter and heated build chamber. That, and I'd love to get into higher education around some of this stuff. 3D printing has a lot of potential.
I do wonder if 10 years down the track there'll be a "3D printing" epidemic from people inhaling fumes they weren't aware of. It's the same in the laser cutting community, I see so many posts on facebook of people cutting PVC based materials, which creates chlorine gas when laser cut. Seems the issue lies in all materials have risk in some way, we kind of assume with consumer access it must be safe. I too would like to know some comparisons between VOC's or filament types and other common products.
Genuinely sounds like you kinda wanted a Royal Enfield's Tripper pod that I have on my motorbike lol. It has no touch screen as you run the directions off a companion app on phone, however it has dark mode, always stays on, runs off 12V and can withstand high temps. And is much easier to design case for.
for scaling 3D scans, I think a cool tip I saw was to use a coin or any small object you know that has a standard dimension and scan it with the object your scanning, from there you can scale the scan to the standard dimension of the object.
You should have just used a ball hinge so you can always adjust it whenever wherever and it’ll always be facing you not only that it may help remove glare on it hope you find this helpful
Subscribed. Love the enthusiasm and really cool to see you working through the 3D printer file issues to make the perfect final product,instead of just half arsing it and calling it a day. Great job!
Oh damn! Scrolling through RUclips at 3am on a Saturday morning and came across this gem of a video! Loved your whole thought process and how you integrated it. Really could open up a new world for smart watches. Subscribed for sure 🤙✌️
Something you could consider is using a Raspberry Pi Pico, and an OLED circular display. You might have to get familiar with code, or have someone help you with it, but I'm certain there are tools out there that would let you take that google maps data such as the turn indicator, and display it on the raspberry pi. A smart watch is most definitely NOT the first thing that came to mind when you mentioned a circular display. It was the second or third though. Still, I don't think a watch would be the right tool to use here.
I think the Sunton 2424S012 would be a great fit. Tiny little circular LCD with an ESP32-C3 on-board (which also solves the connectivity question). It's not OLED but these things are pretty cheap and it might be sufficient. Getting data out of Google Maps into the board is the second question. I think my approach would be to look at Gadgetbridge which (iirc) supports sending navigation data to smartwatches - maybe it'd be possible to implement one of the protocols. The bangle.js one looks pretty simple though it will require re-implementing nordic's uart service.
That’s what I thought he was going to do but that’s a lot more work. If you’re getting into software from no experience like that it’s a massive amount of learning for something that likely has a much worse UI at the end. From experience…
I would recommend a pebble watch. It's a watch that's been discontinued for a while now and has an open source community. I got one and are really happy with it. It can't do much and it's more of a niche tech item, than a smart watch, but for this, I feel it would be great. It's also got a really simple battery with only two leads and it's not even glued together
I actually think this is super cool. You just need active cooling and likely there is a 'keep bright' hack for the watch with ADB. Taking the battery out is smart and I wonder if you used a Ticwatch which has the 2 displays, so when the car is off, it could switch to the LCD screen and when the car is on, it would charge and start the full colour display. Also, they make transreflective displays too, which work way better in cars. Good idea!
Just a note re. scanning and scaling: Apple Devices with LIDAR (Iphone and ipad pro) scan at correct scale thanks to the Lidar. You avoid any scaling issues with those. I've used it countless times, it's way less hassle than anything you had to go through!
I’m stoked to have found this channel. I’ve been considering a 3D printer to print interior components for my car and this has given me some very useful info. The max temperature for different plastic filament was news to me. Definitely something I’ll research more before purchasing a 3D printer so I can guarantee I have a printing setup capable of using PETG.
I feel ya on the google maps directions pain. I travelled to Buenos Aires without my family for the first time in my life, put maps directions towards Plaza de Mayo and took a city bike to get there and relax a bit. It took me through the biggest streets, and i had not ridden a bike in over 10 years. It was absolute FEAR for me biking through the 9 de julio at peak hours in a slow and heavy, clunky city bike
Two things, there's ESP32 powered units that are essentially a smartwatch that you can program yourself for what you want them to do, no battery, round display, could be made to run off a car. Secondly, I don't understand why google doesn't give more two tiered directions, like waze sometimes, and even google sometimes, gives your direction in bold on top with the next direction slightly greyed out and smaller underneath, and it's very useful for the scenario you mentioned, but it just doesn't do it often enough.
What a video. In the end that tip about google maps was wildly helpful. I've been debating for a while if today is the right day to finally buy a 3D printer, and this is exactly the sort of project I would have tried first, so it was just so nice to get insight into the tools available and the learning curve experience.
I've got a long list of mods... So far have the head unit and a front lip body kit piece. everything else is in the thousands haha cars are so damn expensive 😅
Hey cam shand, I just found out about something the motorcycle brand Royal Enfield created; it's called "Royal Enfield Tripper," and it basically does what your project does as well, a simplified version of Google Maps in a gauge. You might want to look into that, not to discredit your pod; its really amazing.
Dude this is so cool! I've seen your car around town so it's cool to finally know whose it is. Keep up the good work man. literally been looking for something like pcbway so the sponsorship was perfect timing.
Thank you so much for the information on upcoming turns!!! That's been my biggest annoyance with Gmaps, I've wished for so long it'd just show you the next 2 turns as well and distance so you can gauge where to go lol
Not sure if applicable to Android, but when using Google Maps on Apple CarPlay, you will have the navigation display on your head unit and the phone will automatically display the entire iternary with every direction in a scrollable list.
honestly, i'd consider this a success, most of the problems are software issues and the one hardware issue is easy enough to fix by adding a cooling fan
You could point your air-con vent at the watch to keep it cool during charging. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, you could internally vent some air from the air-con duct up into the pillar to the back of the watch. Also, an alternative to ABS is ASA. Prints similarly to ABS but has better UV stability.
I've loved following your journey. I got hooked with the start of the desk build, and the quality of the videos coming out never fails to impress! keep up the great work
There are temporary paints in spraycans that cover everything in a grey color to easier scan with photogrammetry and vanish after a few hours. Aesub is one manufacturer for example.
Love this. One of the reasons I love keeping a map view even if I'm taking a daily route I know, is that 'mini-map' feel from video games. Anyways, I think this was a good concept, limitations really being the hardware. I would say, you're better of just using Google's feature on the phone showing the upcoming turns while the head unit shows the map. Before going full custom, maybe finding an older smaller phone to use and dedicated solely for the car could work as well, plus the arrows would be more visible.
Definitely could use that as a base for many other things. Maybe have to get a fully standalone bluetooth creation to be the true map hud. Would require a round screen and programming and stuff. WAY more complicated.
A front bezel that interfaces with the crown would be cool, so you rotate a ring around the dial to scroll. If you're sticking with the pixel watch, it looks like you have room for a little 12v fan in behind it to help keep the temp down. Great little design project!
My brother actually suggested that when I first told him my idea! If I was to find a watch that could be wired in then I'd for sure look into making a spinning bezel, it's a great concept
@camshand I reckon any cheapo Aliexpress smart watch could work, they wouldn't be great but if all it's doing is managing spotify and maps I reckon it could be OK
I did something similar nearly a decade ago, using a Sony Smartwatch 2 mounted in a mk1 audi tt airvent using a couple of pieces of lego as opposed to a magnet. I used it to see who was calling on my Bluetooth handsfree setup and to control my playlist. Nav wasn't very feasible on it back then though, despite trying.
I went on a similar journey with a phone mount for my car. I have circular vents which ruled out buying one. Sadly the current iteration is just aluminium pieces bent and riveted together with a wireless charger installed on the front of it. One day I'll even finish running the wire to a power source... On the navigation side I'm still using my 10 (?) year old HUD made by Navdy. The company went bust long ago but thankfully a couple of guys with programming knowledge are able to keep the app alive.
Somehow your video got recommended to me while looking for GTA V PC mod downloads.. I have a 2012 Nissan Juke, and have the 3 pod gauge pillars, and this pod is sick! GREAT JOB!!!
Micro controller, GPS module, round touch screen, buttons/wheels for flavor. Not an "off the shelf" project, programming would be required, but would be completely standalone and you can make it do whatever you want.
Well, that opens up something. Horde cheap wear os watches, make 3d hubs for them, make an android studio watch app for yourself.... you got yourself a millenium falcon cocpit
They are many circular screens on the market intended to be easy programable for DIY projects, useful for many cases as smart watches, IoT monitors and controllers, can work as stand alone devices, with single board PCs or mirror another device, I think that could be a better option than any smart watch
That's where this project idea started, then I dialled it back to the MVP, minimum viable product that I could make as a proof of concept. If I could mirror image the watch face for the reflection then that could be the next step
There is a device that looks like what you want to do with this project that is ment for motorcycles, just adapt your bracket to hold it instead. It is called the beeline moto, 2 has charge while in use support.
You could try doing the same thing with a BeeLine Moto pod. It's a minimalist GPS pod for motorcycles and bicycles, and it uses its own app which shouldn't connect to android auto, so as long as google maps and beeline are set for the same route it should work.
I mean it's a sick idea but ultimately that is just a smart watch in a dock that does not charge it. A pi and a round screen would be better as it would be a stand alone device and would give you more flexibility
I’m going to give you a trick for the contour gauge, when you’re measuring, draw a mesh, let’s say 2cm by 2cm squares, and then diagonals on a flat surface, a piece of tape, and then stick that to the part, once done, now use the contour gauge, using the mesh as a guide, create that same mesh on your 3D software, and now you don’t need to scale or anything, and your working with 2cm curve segments, if at any moment you take a measurement within the software and it isn’t around 2cm you know you’re wrong on that specific segment instead of the whole curve, also that way you know where the irregular sides start and end, you have a straight line within the confines of your 2x2 grid.
yeah I'm stoked to have found out about it. Plenty in hardware stores that'll probably work a bit smoother than the 3D printed option. Either way a very useful tool to have!
Removing the battery would work. Just need a signal for temperature. You could also use wireless charging with a different watch so the watch is removable.
Great vid! If youre interested you can look at the beeline gps, its meant for motorcycles and push bikes but has a similar size to a smart watch, could actually be worth it as a modification.
Theres a Minimalist sat nav for Motorcycles which might be easier to use and integrate if someone wants to replicate this project. Its Called Beeline Moto and the version 1 really works like the arrow in the game and only gives you a general direction. The updated version also shows a minimalist map view.
Pretty cool! I wonder if you tried accessing the developer settings of the watch if it would allow you to turn off the dimming, but I take that would've probably been attempted already.
You should try the beeline moto II, it's the same thing you want but for two-wheelers, should work well, and it comes with a powered mount so you can keep it powered up all the time no worries.
You could've probably done some resin/epoxy work by blocking out a section of the A pillar with some barriers, and pouring out a silicone mold out of it
You should check on the specs and deduct 10c from them. PETG withstands more like 75c and ABS is quite soft at 95c. If you pull off abs from hotplate which is 95c then you can bend it easily.
There has to be a program out there or something you can use. People mentioned the beeline, but what I'm imagining is a second screen that connects via Bluetooth and is a permanent installment. It'd allow you to use both the android auto and your new screen, just like how you can use a smartwatch while using the unit. New cars like my own has the turn by turn in the gauge cluster as well as center screen, meaning it'd be possible to extract that data. It's not easy code I'm sure, but there's probably dev code in Android Auto for it and someone smart enough to try and extract that code.
I believe the thing you have been looking for is the beeline moto 2. It’s exactly what you are trying to create. Check it out. Normally it is used for motorcycle, you are wanting this trust me.
Was wondering why the watch was a better option than your phone or car deck. Glad you figured it out by the end. Fun project. You have a new subscriber.
It is quite entertaining to see the design process. But instead of using the smart watch you could replace it with a navigation system design for motorbikes called Beeline Moto. It too has a touch screen and round form factor and is meant to be visible in direct sunlight so it should be the better alternative to the smart watch
I am not sure if anybody have already mentioned it, but it seems you are searching for something like 'beeline moto 2'(or other beeline products, like the one for bicycles so it will be thinner). It's round, it's think and has a navigation, also it's not dimming cause it's not a wrist watch.
I used to use my Sumsung Gear S2 as my navigator on my motorcycle by wrapping it around the handlebars, it worked great! but the battery went bad quickly overtime and at the end i had to charge it too often to make it worthwile...
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I've been using Android Auto for work for years and had the exact same issue with upcoming turns, you blew my mind with 12:26 🤯
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Much better than that one video of someone putting an apple watch on their steering wheel
That sounds like such a horrible idea with airbags and all 😂
@@iso_2013 Well, considering there's also an airbag in the a-pillar (you can see it @1:09 just to the right of his left hand - it has a barcode sticker on it) , I'm not sure just how much better of an idea this is... 😬 I had to route the wiring for my dashcam very carefully when I was installing it in my car because of the same airbag location.
@@BEdmonson85 that's an excellent point, I didn't think of that
@@BEdmonson85 to my knowledge the only side airbags are in the seat. Which is why I haven't been able to swap to low profile racing seats in my '07 350z. Which sucks as I'm tall as for the stock ones haha (in Aus you can't remove airbag functionality).
The A-Pillar trim seems to just cover metal, and even if there was a airbag my clip on mount is on the pillar so if it somehow was to be pushed off, the mount would just go with it.
@@camshand It's a curtain air bag in the headliner. The bar code is on an anchor strap that clips into the A pillar. It'll blow straight down/out to cover the window shoving the headliner/weather strip down and popping the top of the A pillar cover out. So basically if an impact doesn't send the watch flying the airbag deploying probably will. lol
FYI: if you activate dev options (same way you do on any android device) you can select keep awake when charging, so if you managed to actively cool it while charging (maybe with a peltier element) this could work
Peltier modules are horribly inefficient for cooling, just add a small heatsink or attach a fan to it. No need to go overkill for cooling.
The only problem I see with a heatsink would be that when the car isn't being used but is parked in direct sunlight, the air temperature inside would increase to the point that it probably wouldn't be able to cool well.
Although, I'm not sure it needs to be charging when the car isn't in use.
@@mert2x982 they're inefficient sure, but the cooling for the size is unmatched. The car should be able to provide plenty power for such a small part and a heatsink would only be effective for a little while, not really after it's been cooking half the day. Not to mention there's really not a lot of a pillar. Maybe if the AC was vented to the back though, or mounting over a vent like some cars do.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx I peltier needs it's own heatsink, so this makes no sense.
They're more commonly used in applications where the heatsink sits outside of the device, like a mini fridge.
Peltier devices are trash. Require moving heat away from them while also not providing much in cooling. A simple pasted on heatsink with a 40mm fan would be a much better option over a peltier.
So sick!! Funny how we both wound up driving the car we used in nfsu2. For me it was the miata😄
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That's sick as! I would legit snap neck turn every time I saw a Z until one day I finally got keys to my own. Such an incredible feeling going from playing in a game as a kit to grown up driving IRL as an adult 🤙
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Have you checked out the beeline moto? It’s basically this, but for motorcycles. A little round screen that just shows you an arrow and distance info.
You could definitely make it work for your car!
Thats actually pretty cool.... Now to make a gauge pod for my TJ. Currently using my apple watch as a turn by turn nav, but this would be so much better.
Came here to say this! Got one on my bike, they're dope 👌
And it’s extremely robust, doesn’t get compromised by heat like a smartwatch, and since it hasn’t do much internal components the battery lasts much longer. There’s even a power providing adapter if you want to power it by the car/bike. I love mine (i have the bicycle version, which is a bit lighter and does different routings but technically it’s the same) 😁👍
I hope he sees this and gives it another go.
This is the way to go
That feeling of making something unique that only existed in your head and now it is a real material thing - is the best feeling any maker can have. Congrats bro!
Every Google maps user shares your pain bruh. The lack of early warning about the next turn immediately after the current one is criminal 😆
The amount of times my phone has been like "stay in the left lane to continue straight" then immediately be like "make a right turn"
This is the one & only advantage Apple Maps has over Google
Use a Beeline! They're designed EXACTLY for this, and being out on the hot sun. I assumed that's what device you would use, and I thought "That's a good idea!"
Does the 350Z have an airbag in the A pillar? If so the gauge might turn into a projectile if it deploys?
You should look into the Beeline navigation devices for motorcycles, it's pretty much what you are looking for but I've never seen it on a car.
Exactly, i’m not a fan of them personally because of the limited amount of information, but for this? Exactly what you are looking for.
I clicked the video thinking that's what he was going to install.
I was going to say the same device
Hell yeah, make a new revision Cam!
I use my beeline in my truck all the time
This is a VERY cool design! Big fan of this.
I'd love to see how a V2 turns out with a custom microcontroller, software and round OLED display. It would definitely be possible to do a fully custom system, in which case I could see it being a marketable product!
An alternative for you would be using Beeline Moto GPS, which is a navigation system for motorcycles that has a circular display. You may want to look up a couple reviews of that, it may work mounted on the A pilar and can be used in direct sunlight
Looking at the thumbnail I thought thats what it was. I think its a perfect device for what he's looking for.
The contour gauge is great, another trick is to copy the profile with a wire, get it perfect then scan it, or take a picture of it dead on from a bit of a distance.
damn a wire is a great idea, I'll keep that in mind when needing something longer than the contour gauge!
I can appreciate the last thing you mentioned about realizing the lack of need for this after putting all that work into trying this first! I know many people would have left that out if their idea didn't work as planned or thrown this video in the trash! Great concept, and I hope you can find a solution in the future if you truly still want it! It is too bad it didn't work because it looked awesome at the end!
i can see it already, the car mod community is going to make a small device that is able to be mounted on any of the front pillars to give arrow; distance; street name in the not so distant future. this just showed this is possible. other companies use the mirror to give camera controls and maps on display while driving.
I don't have a 370Z or a need for the arrow, but what you've designed.... it's so preeeety. Well done sir!!
The easiest way of capturing complex contours is to use something like wire and shape it around the object. A tape line can be helpful to keep the wire coplanar. Any wire that hooks its shape works, I've even used solder in the past
PETG is going to warp, too. Inside the car gets a lot hotter than outside the car. I made a license plate frame from PLA and it sagged in no time. Made one from PETG and it took a little bit longer to sag, but still sagged. The ABS one I made after that has been fine for a while.
I also made an iPhone mount that goes in front of the centre cubby above the stock stereo location. The PLA one warped and the phone would no longer fit. Ditto for a PETG one. The ABS one has been fine for a while.
I absolutely love that you call your car a “zed” rather than a “zee”. Here in Scotland, I also call it a Zed. Incredible amount of time and effort went into your video and it shows. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
just for your safety, no 3d printer fumes are safe to inhale. sadly, all filaments release airborne particles that aren't friendly to your lungs. would recommend proper safety if you print very often
2:50 ASA is actually a fairly good material in place of ABS nowadays. Similar thermal characteristics, UV resistant, doesn't stink as bad or put off nearly as much noxious fumes, and Bambu Lab put out a pretty nice Carbon Fiber ASA that has a pretty nice finish on it. (Even though I know that was a pretty good place to plug PCBway)
Interesting you mention ASA, my understanding of why ABS isn't good for your health is the S is Styrene. the S in ASA is also Styrene.
Although it may not smell as bad, the VOC's being released are still toxic and should be treated with care.
It's probably because I come from a background working at a University where safety was a priority so we had proper ventilation.
So at home, I'm not willing to risk my long term health by rolling the dice without adequate ventilation.
In general though, ASA solves a lot of pain points of ABS when 3D printing. I'm planning to add ducted fume extraction for my laser cutters, and hopefully can add the enclosed X1C into the pipes.
@@camshand Fair point. I suppose since I've kinda been learning as I go, I've kinda missed that bit. I also trusted the integrated carbon filter to catch most of the VOC's, but know it's not a silver bullet.
Also coming from previously owning an Anet A8 (an open-air cartesian printer known for catching on fire if you didn't upgrade some critical bits) I never got to play with some of the styrene-based materials, so I'm less experienced with handling it.
I also did some cursory research before working with ASA, since I kinda was concerned regarding the VOCs, and _allegedly_ it puts off less fumes compared to ABS, but I'm not certain if that means less styrene in general. I aughta look and see if someone in a lab setting actually did some tests on that.
I'd love to have an X1E that has the better filter and heated build chamber. That, and I'd love to get into higher education around some of this stuff. 3D printing has a lot of potential.
I do wonder if 10 years down the track there'll be a "3D printing" epidemic from people inhaling fumes they weren't aware of. It's the same in the laser cutting community, I see so many posts on facebook of people cutting PVC based materials, which creates chlorine gas when laser cut.
Seems the issue lies in all materials have risk in some way, we kind of assume with consumer access it must be safe.
I too would like to know some comparisons between VOC's or filament types and other common products.
Genuinely sounds like you kinda wanted a Royal Enfield's Tripper pod that I have on my motorbike lol. It has no touch screen as you run the directions off a companion app on phone, however it has dark mode, always stays on, runs off 12V and can withstand high temps. And is much easier to design case for.
for scaling 3D scans, I think a cool tip I saw was to use a coin or any small object you know that has a standard dimension and scan it with the object your scanning, from there you can scale the scan to the standard dimension of the object.
You should have just used a ball hinge so you can always adjust it whenever wherever and it’ll always be facing you not only that it may help remove glare on it hope you find this helpful
Subscribed. Love the enthusiasm and really cool to see you working through the 3D printer file issues to make the perfect final product,instead of just half arsing it and calling it a day. Great job!
Oh damn! Scrolling through RUclips at 3am on a Saturday morning and came across this gem of a video! Loved your whole thought process and how you integrated it. Really could open up a new world for smart watches. Subscribed for sure 🤙✌️
Something you could consider is using a Raspberry Pi Pico, and an OLED circular display. You might have to get familiar with code, or have someone help you with it, but I'm certain there are tools out there that would let you take that google maps data such as the turn indicator, and display it on the raspberry pi.
A smart watch is most definitely NOT the first thing that came to mind when you mentioned a circular display. It was the second or third though. Still, I don't think a watch would be the right tool to use here.
I think the Sunton 2424S012 would be a great fit. Tiny little circular LCD with an ESP32-C3 on-board (which also solves the connectivity question). It's not OLED but these things are pretty cheap and it might be sufficient.
Getting data out of Google Maps into the board is the second question. I think my approach would be to look at Gadgetbridge which (iirc) supports sending navigation data to smartwatches - maybe it'd be possible to implement one of the protocols. The bangle.js one looks pretty simple though it will require re-implementing nordic's uart service.
That’s what I thought he was going to do but that’s a lot more work. If you’re getting into software from no experience like that it’s a massive amount of learning for something that likely has a much worse UI at the end. From experience…
I would recommend a pebble watch. It's a watch that's been discontinued for a while now and has an open source community. I got one and are really happy with it. It can't do much and it's more of a niche tech item, than a smart watch, but for this, I feel it would be great. It's also got a really simple battery with only two leads and it's not even glued together
I actually think this is super cool. You just need active cooling and likely there is a 'keep bright' hack for the watch with ADB. Taking the battery out is smart and I wonder if you used a Ticwatch which has the 2 displays, so when the car is off, it could switch to the LCD screen and when the car is on, it would charge and start the full colour display. Also, they make transreflective displays too, which work way better in cars. Good idea!
Just a note re. scanning and scaling: Apple Devices with LIDAR (Iphone and ipad pro) scan at correct scale thanks to the Lidar. You avoid any scaling issues with those. I've used it countless times, it's way less hassle than anything you had to go through!
I did consider borrowing my wife's iPhone Pro but she was at work. Will have to try it out next time!
I’m stoked to have found this channel. I’ve been considering a 3D printer to print interior components for my car and this has given me some very useful info. The max temperature for different plastic filament was news to me. Definitely something I’ll research more before purchasing a 3D printer so I can guarantee I have a printing setup capable of using PETG.
I feel ya on the google maps directions pain. I travelled to Buenos Aires without my family for the first time in my life, put maps directions towards Plaza de Mayo and took a city bike to get there and relax a bit. It took me through the biggest streets, and i had not ridden a bike in over 10 years. It was absolute FEAR for me biking through the 9 de julio at peak hours in a slow and heavy, clunky city bike
Two things, there's ESP32 powered units that are essentially a smartwatch that you can program yourself for what you want them to do, no battery, round display, could be made to run off a car.
Secondly, I don't understand why google doesn't give more two tiered directions, like waze sometimes, and even google sometimes, gives your direction in bold on top with the next direction slightly greyed out and smaller underneath, and it's very useful for the scenario you mentioned, but it just doesn't do it often enough.
What a video. In the end that tip about google maps was wildly helpful. I've been debating for a while if today is the right day to finally buy a 3D printer, and this is exactly the sort of project I would have tried first, so it was just so nice to get insight into the tools available and the learning curve experience.
Now turn this into Rachel's 350Z from Underground 2.
I've got a long list of mods... So far have the head unit and a front lip body kit piece.
everything else is in the thousands haha cars are so damn expensive 😅
Hey cam shand, I just found out about something the motorcycle brand Royal Enfield created; it's called "Royal Enfield Tripper," and it basically does what your project does as well, a simplified version of Google Maps in a gauge. You might want to look into that, not to discredit your pod; its really amazing.
Dude this is so cool! I've seen your car around town so it's cool to finally know whose it is. Keep up the good work man. literally been looking for something like pcbway so the sponsorship was perfect timing.
Thank you so much for the information on upcoming turns!!! That's been my biggest annoyance with Gmaps, I've wished for so long it'd just show you the next 2 turns as well and distance so you can gauge where to go lol
Not sure if applicable to Android, but when using Google Maps on Apple CarPlay, you will have the navigation display on your head unit and the phone will automatically display the entire iternary with every direction in a scrollable list.
honestly, i'd consider this a success, most of the problems are software issues and the one hardware issue is easy enough to fix by adding a cooling fan
You could point your air-con vent at the watch to keep it cool during charging. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, you could internally vent some air from the air-con duct up into the pillar to the back of the watch.
Also, an alternative to ABS is ASA. Prints similarly to ABS but has better UV stability.
I've loved following your journey. I got hooked with the start of the desk build, and the quality of the videos coming out never fails to impress! keep up the great work
There are temporary paints in spraycans that cover everything in a grey color to easier scan with photogrammetry and vanish after a few hours. Aesub is one manufacturer for example.
Love this. One of the reasons I love keeping a map view even if I'm taking a daily route I know, is that 'mini-map' feel from video games.
Anyways, I think this was a good concept, limitations really being the hardware. I would say, you're better of just using Google's feature on the phone showing the upcoming turns while the head unit shows the map. Before going full custom, maybe finding an older smaller phone to use and dedicated solely for the car could work as well, plus the arrows would be more visible.
Definitely could use that as a base for many other things. Maybe have to get a fully standalone bluetooth creation to be the true map hud. Would require a round screen and programming and stuff. WAY more complicated.
A front bezel that interfaces with the crown would be cool, so you rotate a ring around the dial to scroll.
If you're sticking with the pixel watch, it looks like you have room for a little 12v fan in behind it to help keep the temp down.
Great little design project!
My brother actually suggested that when I first told him my idea!
If I was to find a watch that could be wired in then I'd for sure look into making a spinning bezel, it's a great concept
@camshand I reckon any cheapo Aliexpress smart watch could work, they wouldn't be great but if all it's doing is managing spotify and maps I reckon it could be OK
very cool project and a great use of older tech that might otherwise rot on marketplace. really love the idea!
I did something similar nearly a decade ago, using a Sony Smartwatch 2 mounted in a mk1 audi tt airvent using a couple of pieces of lego as opposed to a magnet. I used it to see who was calling on my Bluetooth handsfree setup and to control my playlist. Nav wasn't very feasible on it back then though, despite trying.
I went on a similar journey with a phone mount for my car. I have circular vents which ruled out buying one. Sadly the current iteration is just aluminium pieces bent and riveted together with a wireless charger installed on the front of it. One day I'll even finish running the wire to a power source...
On the navigation side I'm still using my 10 (?) year old HUD made by Navdy. The company went bust long ago but thankfully a couple of guys with programming knowledge are able to keep the app alive.
All that work doesn't have to go in vain, that file is super close to being a 3d printable gauge pod you could sell
Somehow your video got recommended to me while looking for GTA V PC mod downloads.. I have a 2012 Nissan Juke, and have the 3 pod gauge pillars, and this pod is sick! GREAT JOB!!!
Micro controller, GPS module, round touch screen, buttons/wheels for flavor. Not an "off the shelf" project, programming would be required, but would be completely standalone and you can make it do whatever you want.
Well, that opens up something. Horde cheap wear os watches, make 3d hubs for them, make an android studio watch app for yourself.... you got yourself a millenium falcon cocpit
Even better..... The Easy Home Cockpit Project by Joker_G on Printables.
Just a wall of these smart watches instead!
They are many circular screens on the market intended to be easy programable for DIY projects, useful for many cases as smart watches, IoT monitors and controllers, can work as stand alone devices, with single board PCs or mirror another device, I think that could be a better option than any smart watch
What a fantastic alternate use of a smartwatch. All drivers will want this.
Next step: Actual rotating arrow on a HUD being projected to the car's windshield from bellow. Just like the videgame ones... ;)
That's where this project idea started, then I dialled it back to the MVP, minimum viable product that I could make as a proof of concept. If I could mirror image the watch face for the reflection then that could be the next step
I can see this turning from concept to you making your device with a custom screen and raspberry pi. Onwards and upwards, love this type of content
There is a device that looks like what you want to do with this project that is ment for motorcycles, just adapt your bracket to hold it instead. It is called the beeline moto, 2 has charge while in use support.
Wouldn't a third party head up display work ? 🤔
Its called the art of unnecessary engineering for views. And its working
You could try doing the same thing with a BeeLine Moto pod. It's a minimalist GPS pod for motorcycles and bicycles, and it uses its own app which shouldn't connect to android auto, so as long as google maps and beeline are set for the same route it should work.
nice mod, I really liked it. But I'm astonished by your garage, it's literally a dream
I mean it's a sick idea but ultimately that is just a smart watch in a dock that does not charge it. A pi and a round screen would be better as it would be a stand alone device and would give you more flexibility
Even though it didn't turn out the way you wanted, the process was fun to ⌚
I’m going to give you a trick for the contour gauge, when you’re measuring, draw a mesh, let’s say 2cm by 2cm squares, and then diagonals on a flat surface, a piece of tape, and then stick that to the part, once done, now use the contour gauge, using the mesh as a guide, create that same mesh on your 3D software, and now you don’t need to scale or anything, and your working with 2cm curve segments, if at any moment you take a measurement within the software and it isn’t around 2cm you know you’re wrong on that specific segment instead of the whole curve, also that way you know where the irregular sides start and end, you have a straight line within the confines of your 2x2 grid.
thanks for the "Contour Gauge" info I need to print stuff for a pillar and bonnet and had no idea how I was going to get the curves
yeah I'm stoked to have found out about it. Plenty in hardware stores that'll probably work a bit smoother than the 3D printed option. Either way a very useful tool to have!
Removing the battery would work. Just need a signal for temperature. You could also use wireless charging with a different watch so the watch is removable.
Really enjoyed this build. Nice job.
Great vid! If youre interested you can look at the beeline gps, its meant for motorcycles and push bikes but has a similar size to a smart watch, could actually be worth it as a modification.
Love the filming and editing.
Funny enough I just got a RUclips ad and it’s advertising what you are trying to make.. it’s called Beeline Velo 2. Navigation for bikes
Theres a Minimalist sat nav for Motorcycles which might be easier to use and integrate if someone wants to replicate this project. Its Called Beeline Moto and the version 1 really works like the arrow in the game and only gives you a general direction. The updated version also shows a minimalist map view.
You were great in X-Men and The Boys
Damn he really does look like Shawn Ashmore 😂
Another great vid Cam! Keep em coming!!
Pretty cool! I wonder if you tried accessing the developer settings of the watch if it would allow you to turn off the dimming, but I take that would've probably been attempted already.
Hey, that’s my barber too!
Nice to come across another local on here.
Very interesting project. I'd be thrilled to see something like this for a DIY heads up display!
You should try the beeline moto II, it's the same thing you want but for two-wheelers, should work well, and it comes with a powered mount so you can keep it powered up all the time no worries.
You could've probably done some resin/epoxy work by blocking out a section of the A pillar with some barriers, and pouring out a silicone mold out of it
You have small little pucks with an arrow like that for bicycles that don't dim with it's bright and probably have way better battery life.
The mount looks so good in your car!
You should check on the specs and deduct 10c from them. PETG withstands more like 75c and ABS is quite soft at 95c. If you pull off abs from hotplate which is 95c then you can bend it easily.
This video was worth the watch just to learn how to swipe for upcoming directions in maps lol
The circle navigation system looks like what some motorcycles have. Checkout the Trippr navigation system that Royal Enfield makes
There has to be a program out there or something you can use. People mentioned the beeline, but what I'm imagining is a second screen that connects via Bluetooth and is a permanent installment. It'd allow you to use both the android auto and your new screen, just like how you can use a smartwatch while using the unit.
New cars like my own has the turn by turn in the gauge cluster as well as center screen, meaning it'd be possible to extract that data. It's not easy code I'm sure, but there's probably dev code in Android Auto for it and someone smart enough to try and extract that code.
Impressive work mate! Would be a great start up product
I believe the thing you have been looking for is the beeline moto 2. It’s exactly what you are trying to create. Check it out. Normally it is used for motorcycle, you are wanting this trust me.
I needed to make a similar thing for my 960 estate. Used the centre vents and it's the best thing for modern classic cars
Love it! This reminds me a lot of the Beeline Moto navigation system, that might work perfectly for you
3:15 you should check out ASA. Not as toxic as ABS but just as strong.
Back in the normal world, you buy the gauge cluster plastic online for your specific car model.
It looks so clean, we need cleaner looking GPS like that. But tbf Waze looks already great sooo
Was wondering why the watch was a better option than your phone or car deck. Glad you figured it out by the end. Fun project. You have a new subscriber.
A better thing to do than a watch is you can buy round OLED displays about the size of a smartwatch but idk how you’d connect it to your maps
It is quite entertaining to see the design process. But instead of using the smart watch you could replace it with a navigation system design for motorbikes called Beeline Moto. It too has a touch screen and round form factor and is meant to be visible in direct sunlight so it should be the better alternative to the smart watch
Bro all you needed was a Royal Enfeild tripper, which is like $50
This is honestly way nicer looking than the Tripper imho
I am not sure if anybody have already mentioned it, but it seems you are searching for something like 'beeline moto 2'(or other beeline products, like the one for bicycles so it will be thinner). It's round, it's think and has a navigation, also it's not dimming cause it's not a wrist watch.
That's call AF, well done man.
I need one in my life now...
Man just thought me a super useful google maps trick i never knew😂 thanks man🤝🏼 also nice build on the a-pillar attachment, looks clean and useful :)
I used to use my Sumsung Gear S2 as my navigator on my motorcycle by wrapping it around the handlebars, it worked great! but the battery went bad quickly overtime and at the end i had to charge it too often to make it worthwile...
This is so sick!
Edit: just remembered beeline makes a moto & cycling version of this that might be easier to hard-wire in than a smart watch