Thank you Dr K. Why would anyone take seriously men that say openly. "We make mistakes. are infallible and have no need to apologize" Yet people allow them to rule their lives and make serious decisions about their lives. It makes no sense. Who are they at the end of the day? Just mere sinning men who have given THEMSELVES authority. Seriously?
You're welcome, and I completely understand your frustration. It’s difficult to fathom how anyone can place their trust in individuals who openly admit to being fallible but still assert the authority to control others' lives. The contradiction is striking-how can someone who acknowledges their own imperfections claim to have ultimate authority over spiritual matters and decisions that profoundly impact others? When leaders refuse to apologize or acknowledge their mistakes, it creates a troubling dynamic. It can foster a sense of unquestionable authority, which can be incredibly harmful, especially when it limits personal autonomy and causes people to suppress their own doubts and concerns. It’s a situation where the power dynamics become more about control than genuine guidance. At the end of the day, these leaders are just human beings, no different from anyone else in terms of their nature and flaws. The authority they claim often comes not from any inherent wisdom or divinely appointed role but from their ability to manipulate and exploit trust. It’s a real tragedy when people allow themselves to be ruled by that kind of authority, especially when it’s not based on mutual respect or accountability. The key is to recognize the value of personal agency and critical thinking, as well as the importance of questioning when something doesn’t feel right. Your perspective and experiences can serve as an important reminder to others to think critically and not blindly follow anyone-no matter what position they claim.
Alcoholics help each other recover, out of love. JW's kick each other to the gutter, out of self righteousness. James wrote @ 5:14 "Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up.IF HE HAS SINNED IT WILL BE FORGIVEN." 16Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power to prevail. 2Cor 2: "You ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him... in order that Satan should not outwit us. JW's have been outwitted by Satan and their own self righteousness.
I find hard to understand is where you get the idea that JWs kick each other to the gutter out of self-righteousness. JWs follow the law of Christianity but when it comes to the law they do not compromise. All members who commit gross sin and refuse to repent are removed. All members who commit gross sin and repent are forgiven and not removed. The world has been outwitted by Satan and his demons, and they use religion and government to control people.
Thank you so much for your support-it means a lot! You’re absolutely right: in the JW framework, the organization is placed above everything, often at the expense of scriptural understanding and individual spirituality. Their interpretations can feel more like tools for enforcing loyalty than genuine efforts to connect people with God’s teachings. It’s sad to see how the simplicity and grace of scripture are often overshadowed by rigid policies and organizational priorities. Glad these videos are resonating with you-let’s keep exposing the truth together!
Who are the Watchtower Society's elders to judge whether or not a member of the congregation is "repentant enough"? That shows how far out of context they have gone with scriptures that deal with disfellowshipping. To be fair, there are some grounds for disfellowshipping. For example, if someone in the congregation is abusive to children or others, if some is too easily given to wrath, that is, quick-tempered, is violent, or brings in false teachings, or teachings contrary to the Holy Bible, and does not repent of any of these sinful actions. Shunning of children or victims of sexual abuse, however, is NOT Biblical. Nor is shunning of those who disagree with the false teachings of the Watchtower Society or any other cult. Thank you for exposing the unjust shunning policy and calling out the Watchtower Society for it.
The watchtower religion is built like a company. CEOs ----> governing body District managers ---> Service department (lawyers) Human resources / publicity consultants --- writting department Regional manager ----> circuit overseer Secretaries / servants ---> bethelites Managers ---> Ministerial servants , elders Floor employees ---> publishers, pioneers, rank n file bros n sisters, missionaries etc I have forgotten some levels but its a company. Period
"You've nailed it with this comparison! The organizational structure of the Jehovah's Witnesses does resemble a corporate hierarchy, with clear tiers of authority and responsibility. Each 'department' has a specific function, from governance and legal defenses to PR and local management. This structure isn’t just about administration-it’s a powerful tool to enforce control, maintain loyalty, and ensure the organization runs efficiently. While they call it a 'spiritual paradise,' the setup mirrors a well-oiled company. Your analogy really highlights how much it operates like a business model rather than just a faith-based community."
Not allowed back until the elders are convinced of their repentance? Where is that in the bible? In the prodigal son, the father didn't ask any questions. When he saw his son returning from a distance, he ran to him and accepted him back. JWs just disregard all of Jesus's teachings and insert their own.
If the elders have any resentment against you you're automatically not repentant. Then when the person tries to rejoin the JW's the sinner needs to make all the meetings, sometimes for years, to show they are repentant. Even if the sinner is no longer practicing the initial sin. If those meetings are not met the individual is not considered repentant.
"You've made an excellent point! The parable of the prodigal son is one of the most powerful examples of unconditional love, forgiveness, and grace. The father didn’t set conditions or interrogate his son-he ran to embrace him, showing God’s heart for reconciliation. Yet, Jehovah’s Witnesses have inserted a system of human gatekeeping, where elders must 'approve' someone’s repentance before they are welcomed back. This process contradicts the very essence of Jesus’s teachings on forgiveness and mercy. It’s heartbreaking to see how organizational rules overshadow the simple, beautiful message of grace that Christ preached."
"Exactly, and this system creates a dynamic where forgiveness and restoration are no longer about personal repentance or a relationship with God-it becomes a performance to satisfy human judges. The elders' personal biases or perceptions can unfairly influence the process, which is far from the unconditional love and forgiveness Jesus demonstrated. The idea that someone must meet attendance quotas or jump through hoops for years to 'prove' repentance, even if they’ve already changed, shows how much the focus has shifted from spiritual healing to organizational control. It’s a heartbreaking distortion of what repentance and grace are supposed to mean."
Anyone has the right to shun whoever they want. But when a group of religious leaders are telling you you must shun someone otherwise you will be disciplined and shunned yourself is outright wrong. The JW leaders are the modern day Pharisees.
Baptized in an organization. The Bible does not teach this. God's children are baptized in the Name of the Father. The Name of the Son and in the Name of the Holy Spirit,
Thank you Dr K. Why would anyone take seriously men that say openly. "We make mistakes. are infallible and have no need to apologize" Yet people allow them to rule their lives and make serious decisions about their lives. It makes no sense. Who are they at the end of the day? Just mere sinning men who have given THEMSELVES authority. Seriously?
You're welcome, and I completely understand your frustration. It’s difficult to fathom how anyone can place their trust in individuals who openly admit to being fallible but still assert the authority to control others' lives. The contradiction is striking-how can someone who acknowledges their own imperfections claim to have ultimate authority over spiritual matters and decisions that profoundly impact others?
When leaders refuse to apologize or acknowledge their mistakes, it creates a troubling dynamic. It can foster a sense of unquestionable authority, which can be incredibly harmful, especially when it limits personal autonomy and causes people to suppress their own doubts and concerns. It’s a situation where the power dynamics become more about control than genuine guidance.
At the end of the day, these leaders are just human beings, no different from anyone else in terms of their nature and flaws. The authority they claim often comes not from any inherent wisdom or divinely appointed role but from their ability to manipulate and exploit trust. It’s a real tragedy when people allow themselves to be ruled by that kind of authority, especially when it’s not based on mutual respect or accountability.
The key is to recognize the value of personal agency and critical thinking, as well as the importance of questioning when something doesn’t feel right. Your perspective and experiences can serve as an important reminder to others to think critically and not blindly follow anyone-no matter what position they claim.
Theyve added shunning to those who becoming inactive, faded, or choice to leave religion.
Evil.
@@elainebraindrain3174 Really?
They've added shunning and disfellowshipping for asking simple questions.
Alcoholics help each other recover, out of love. JW's kick each other to the gutter, out of self righteousness. James wrote @ 5:14 "Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up.IF HE HAS SINNED IT WILL BE FORGIVEN." 16Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power to prevail. 2Cor 2: "You ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him... in order that Satan should not outwit us. JW's have been outwitted by Satan and their own self righteousness.
I find hard to understand is where you get the idea that JWs kick each other to the gutter out of self-righteousness. JWs follow the law of Christianity but when it comes to the law they do not compromise. All members who commit gross sin and refuse to repent are removed. All members who commit gross sin and repent are forgiven and not removed. The world has been outwitted by Satan and his demons, and they use religion and government to control people.
Excellent.
Elders are not qualified to judge. They are used to police and punish.
Love your vids. The JWs understanding of scriptural Is pitiful. Organisation above everything.
Thank you so much for your support-it means a lot! You’re absolutely right: in the JW framework, the organization is placed above everything, often at the expense of scriptural understanding and individual spirituality. Their interpretations can feel more like tools for enforcing loyalty than genuine efforts to connect people with God’s teachings. It’s sad to see how the simplicity and grace of scripture are often overshadowed by rigid policies and organizational priorities. Glad these videos are resonating with you-let’s keep exposing the truth together!
Who are the Watchtower Society's elders to judge whether or not a member of the congregation is "repentant enough"? That shows how far out of context they have gone with scriptures that deal with disfellowshipping.
To be fair, there are some grounds for disfellowshipping. For example, if someone in the congregation is abusive to children or others, if some is too easily given to wrath, that is, quick-tempered, is violent, or brings in false teachings, or teachings contrary to the Holy Bible, and does not repent of any of these sinful actions. Shunning of children or victims of sexual abuse, however, is NOT Biblical. Nor is shunning of those who disagree with the false teachings of the Watchtower Society or any other cult. Thank you for exposing the unjust shunning policy and calling out the Watchtower Society for it.
Problem is they cover up the real sins such as CSA
The watchtower religion is built like a company.
CEOs ----> governing body
District managers ---> Service department (lawyers)
Human resources / publicity consultants --- writting department
Regional manager ----> circuit overseer
Secretaries / servants ---> bethelites
Managers ---> Ministerial servants , elders
Floor employees ---> publishers, pioneers, rank n file bros n sisters, missionaries etc
I have forgotten some levels but its a company. Period
"You've nailed it with this comparison! The organizational structure of the Jehovah's Witnesses does resemble a corporate hierarchy, with clear tiers of authority and responsibility. Each 'department' has a specific function, from governance and legal defenses to PR and local management. This structure isn’t just about administration-it’s a powerful tool to enforce control, maintain loyalty, and ensure the organization runs efficiently. While they call it a 'spiritual paradise,' the setup mirrors a well-oiled company. Your analogy really highlights how much it operates like a business model rather than just a faith-based community."
Not allowed back until the elders are convinced of their repentance? Where is that in the bible? In the prodigal son, the father didn't ask any questions. When he saw his son returning from a distance, he ran to him and accepted him back. JWs just disregard all of Jesus's teachings and insert their own.
I think that parable is about our heavenly father
If the elders have any resentment against you you're automatically not repentant. Then when the person tries to rejoin the JW's the sinner needs to make all the meetings, sometimes for years, to show they are repentant. Even if the sinner is no longer practicing the initial sin. If those meetings are not met the individual is not considered repentant.
"You've made an excellent point! The parable of the prodigal son is one of the most powerful examples of unconditional love, forgiveness, and grace. The father didn’t set conditions or interrogate his son-he ran to embrace him, showing God’s heart for reconciliation. Yet, Jehovah’s Witnesses have inserted a system of human gatekeeping, where elders must 'approve' someone’s repentance before they are welcomed back. This process contradicts the very essence of Jesus’s teachings on forgiveness and mercy. It’s heartbreaking to see how organizational rules overshadow the simple, beautiful message of grace that Christ preached."
"Exactly, and this system creates a dynamic where forgiveness and restoration are no longer about personal repentance or a relationship with God-it becomes a performance to satisfy human judges. The elders' personal biases or perceptions can unfairly influence the process, which is far from the unconditional love and forgiveness Jesus demonstrated. The idea that someone must meet attendance quotas or jump through hoops for years to 'prove' repentance, even if they’ve already changed, shows how much the focus has shifted from spiritual healing to organizational control. It’s a heartbreaking distortion of what repentance and grace are supposed to mean."
@@Scott-t2p
No, it the parable of the "prodigal son."
The spouses are not required to adjust assiciation with each other or their minor children that isca lie.
I think shunning is wrong but we should shun if someone wants us to sin
Anyone has the right to shun whoever they want. But when a group of religious leaders are telling you you must shun someone otherwise you will be disciplined and shunned yourself is outright wrong. The JW leaders are the modern day Pharisees.
Baptized in an organization. The Bible does not teach this. God's children are baptized in the Name of the Father. The Name of the Son and in the Name of the Holy Spirit,
@@teresapettie3558 I am not sure how your statement relates to this video. What aspect of the video are you asking against.