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I know! I just picture a character study about a man killing his way through generations. Living long enough to serve with the grandchildren of the men he’s killed. It could be so good. but we got trash CGI claws killing a sink
Fun Fact: Because of how poorly received the previous film was, X-men Origins Magneto was rewritten to X-men First Class. That's why the film's Magneto arc is so fleshed out is because it was originally it's own film.
Lego Post Malone My advise to Marvel Studios when adapting their take on X-Men (and Fantastic Four): copy from Doom Patrol. That show is a better live action take on both properties, plus this wouldn’t be the first time X-Men ripped off from that team. So if the movie was to succeed, Marvel Studios (in the first time ever) should copy from DC.
Drew Nolde So like a more faithful take on First Class? Cause if so here are some basic guidelines I would do: 1) Have Cyclops be the main protagonist of this series of films. It will definitely set them apart from the Fox Men series. 2) The team dynamic/interaction should be something similar to Breakfast Club or (better yet) the Power Ranger movie . 3) The main X-Men team are formed due to five students from the Institute using their powers outside the estate by preventing a mass shooting. 4) Professor X in the movie is initially reluctant of his students using their powers in public, but as the film progress becomes more open to them using their gifts as a team realizing that is wrong to keep such special talent a secret. 5) Have two Big Bads for the film: Magneto for the mutant side and Boliver Trask for the human side. 6) In response to a Stark-less world, Bolivar Trask took up said role by modifying the whole “Party Mode” protocol of his armors to be used for the basis of the Sentinel project for the purpose of protecting the public from dangerous metahumans. 7) Magneto and The Brotherhood of Mutants will initially start out as being good guys that is beloved by the public in the MCU, but due to the combination of bad publicity from political figures, witnessing personally the racism from humanity and a third influence that I will talk about later, the group will turn heel and start to go against the people they once save (like the song Iron Man). 8) Mastermind is the Bigger Bad of the film who uses his illusion powers and manipulation to instigate further the hysteria among the Brotherhood and Sentinel Project. Basically he wants to instigate a war between the humans and mutants as part of his duties in the Inner Circle.
Just do with Cyclops what they did with Captain America and they should be fine. Focus on his morality & loyalty as a way to swerve away from the goofiness and do-gooder reputation of previous representations. That way when they have tension between him and Wolverine (who should be introduced after the other X-Men members first team up) then it won’t feel like we’ll have to pick sides, but instead it’ll be similar to Cap vs Iron Man in the regard that we can admire both sides of the conflict. Also, make Wolverine comic accurate. So more educated, less attractive, shorter and more gruff, etc. So don’t hire Tom Hardy or Dan Radcliffe. Radcliffe can be Beast. Hire someone unknown and young. Or if they really want to surprise me then hire Jack Black with weight loss and steroids. /s
I'm praying for a good cyclops after the last two being completely meh and underwhelming. I mean he's the leader after all. If they establish a compelling cyclops the jean grey wolverine love triangle will actually work and I honestly don't fear marvel screwing up wolverine after having like 7 movies which serve as a blueprint on how it's done.
The MCU did not waste Quicksilver, they just couldn’t use him has much as Fox due to the movie rights. So technically, Fox screwed over Quicksilver in the MCU and their X Men universe.
@@tayojones9460 Yeah, but so? Logan was never meant to be an X-Men film, the X-Men themselves are only alluded to, never properly named in the film, not even flashbacks are included. The original film was to begin with Xavier killing the X-Men by accident due to his seizures, and they pulled it out of the film because Mangold wanted to focus the story on Logan, Xavier and Laura. It's almost a given that when they enter the MCU, the X-Men will be focusing more on the team dynamic, but for what we got from the original run, Logan was a masterpiece. Given Feige's patience for holding back fan favorites until it's the right time, I imagine Wolverine won't even show up in the first film they get the X-Men in. They'll first make us fall in love with the more underappreciated ones (Cyclops and Storm especially who were never properly realized) and then he'll bring on Logan in a sequel or something.
@@golden1324 Yeah, seriously, and to think it's the exact same team behind The Wolverine... We could have gotten two phenomenal Wolverine movies instead of just one, but at least they went all out with the one they could do properly. All studios save for Marvel should fuck off from the creative process and just do what they were meant to do, all the distribution and financial shit. Yes, have someone monitor the money that goes in and out, but if you have such a great cast and crew, just unleash them and watch money flow in. Every time I see a great team behind an average or bad movie I always think "the studios couldn't keep it in their pants". 9 times out of 10, the word "studio meddling" escorts the bad reviews for the film or the reason behind it bombing commercially.
12. Dark Phoenix 11. X-Men: Apocalypse 10: X-Men: The Last Stand 9. Wolverine: X-Men Origins 8. The Wolverine 7. Deadpool 2 6. X-Men 5. X2 4. Deadpool 3. X-Men: First Class 2. X-Men: Days of Future Past 1. Logan
I definitely agree with this list, Days of Future Past and Logan are easily the best of the X-Men movies imo. And dark Phoenix, though entertaining at times, was incredibly disappointing and royally screwed up the timeline even more
I would move Deadpool 2 and The wolverine up, put Wolverine between Xmen and X2 and Deadpool 2 above deadpool, but other than that this is a great list
@@HippityhoppityGnW For me, I would have Deadpool 2 at my number #8 spot well I do kinda love it, have The Wolverine at my number #6 spot which I really loved before Logan came out, X-men 1 at my #7 spot which I kinda love, and X2 at number #2 spot which I really loved and Logan at #1 because it’s the best X-men film along with first class, days of future past, and X2.
Days of future past sucks... It's just nonsense, like most time travel movies... Don't get seduced/fooled by the visuals. The only good x-men is first class. Period. I'll go even further and say it's the only good super hero movie alongside the Nolan batman trilogy...
@@m3gAnac0nda then you have no sense for humor. Thor ragnarok is a great comedy, and the guardians of the galaxys are at least good. Infinity war delivers almost everything one could want except it has a faceless army battle at the end.
Technically, Ryan Reynolds first appearance as Deadpool is in Deadpool. In Wolverine Origins, he is credited as Wade Wilson, and he is never referred to as Deadpool in the movie.
@@SourRobo8364 Same honestly. Felt more like one continuous storyline, wasn't nearly as disjointed, didn't have the burden of having to go through an origin story, and it actually did the Juggernaut justice after the travesty that was The Last Stand.
Cyberdemon Mike If you don’t read the comics or know the cartoons it may be better, but for me that was just Vinnie Jones in a silly half bondage half fake rocks outfit. Not to mention it just feels out of place to have a burly middle aged British geezer in the middle of a high budget superhero blockbuster. I do agree Deadpool 2’s Juggernaut was very forgettable. But I don’t think The Last Stand’s was great either. Both were bad. DP2 only got him visually accurate but aside from that he could’ve been replaced with any other mutant and the story would still function fine. That’s why I think they should’ve put Blob instead of wasting Juggernaut. But yeah Last Stand’s Juggernaut was trash imo
I was shocked but happy he rated both of them so low. Deadpool 1 was decent but deadpool 2 was really rough for me, I didn't expect to get tired of the character so fast but I genuinely did
Cyberdemon Mike “I’m the juggernaut bitch” came from an internet meme first though. The Last Stand referencing it was just the writers trying to be hip. Most people agree it really wasn’t that badass. I respect your opinion though
@@RaidsEpicly I think ultimately Deadpool 2 has higher highs and lower lows than Deadpool. There are certainly really good parts but the movie's quality bounces around and the movie is even aware of that at times, which pulled my overall view of the movie down compared to the first.
Sam Wilson you should check out Prisoners. Jackman literally plays Joel in that film. It’s the closest we’ll ever get to him playing that part, and it’s a damn shame because he really would be the perfect pick for the role.
1. Logan 2. Days of Future Past 3. First Class 4. Deadpool 5. X-Men 6. Deadpool 2 7. X2 8. The Wolverine 9. The Last Stand 10. Origins 11. Apocalypse 12. Dark Phoenix
Me, too, but I hate it how he suddenly wants to kill the whole planet and then, suddenly remembers Charles‘ love for him (Which is a very awesome moment!) and then immediately takes back. It’s just.... what I always liked about Magneto was that he was always sure which way to go. He never trembled before. But here, they make him look so inconsistent that it feels very forced.
watching it I really felt like it was super excessive and just an excuse to have erik become magneto again. like if it was a movie about erik, like first class, I'd understand it as a tragedy but instead i just felt like.... too much... man's a holocaust survivor no more tragedy please
People forget that silent deadpool is a callback, Stryker says “you’d be a perfect soldier without that mouth on you” so he literally takes the mouth off him
Did not see Dark Phoenix 11 Origins Wolverine 10 The Last Stand 9 Apocalypse 8 The Wolverine 7 Deadpool 2 6 X-Men 5 Deadpool 4 Days of Future Past 3 First Class 2 X2 1 Logan
@@Badmunky64 Not gonna lie, but X-men origins is way worser then The Wolverine, the Wolverine trilogy actually started to improve and get way better, the Wolverine was good and improved but not the best. Overall, it is your opinion so I won’t try to bash it and respect it :).
the best thing this film franchise brought us was those few quicksilver scenes. absolutely iconic & the best version of the character to date. fully captures his personality and energy
Spiderman 2 leaves both of those in the dust and as far as "gritty realism" goes, Blade 98 did it better and way before Nolan was associated with batman reboots.
While I'm not big on how low Deadpool 2 was on the list, I''m glad to see some respect for The Wolverine. That or First Class are the most underrated of the franchise, imo.
Like yeah, even tho I like Deadpool 2, I still do not understand why people think Wolverine is worser then Deadpool 2, people who have Wolverine ranked low on their list don’t know what a good Wolverine movie is or should be. Deadpool 2 has too many plot lines going on which make the movie and the Wolverine movie doesn’t, and still don’t freaking understand why people think Deadpool 2 is better 🤦♂️.
Honestly, I liked DP2 more than the first. The first one was really just (story-wise) a standard middle of the road superhero origin, with more restrained humor and not enough to make it highly rewatchable. The second one was more wild and had an actual plot, and I would totally rewatch it over and over again.
The Wolverine Origins could have been a trilogy in itself: 1) A movie with focus on Logan discovering his powers and dealing with them; and the war thing with Sabretooth. 2) The romantic one, with Sabretooth killing his wife and Logan seeking revenge upon him. 3) The whole thing with the team, deadpool and the Weapon X stuff
Take a shot everytime captainmidnight unnecessarily uses the words "himself", "herself" , or "itself" when thinking he has redundantly referenced someone or something in his videos. Having said that, I love these videos.
It sucks how the events of Apocalypse were not referenced in Dark Phoenix, like at all. All the great landmarks gone and no one was talking about the consequences.
I know, that was so weird. Say what you will about First Class/DoFP/Apocalypse, ALL THREE of them prominently built off of each other and referenced each other.
Unpopular opinion here: origins wolverine is in the top 3 best. I’m not a troll, I sincerely enjoy the action, the emotional moments, the amazing music, the interactions, the acting, it was all great. I feel like people love to hate it just because of Deadpool but it didn’t matter to me because I didn’t know who Deadpool was at that time.
I would probably list mine as 12) X-Men Origins 11) Apocolypse 10) Last Stand 9) Dark Phoenix 8) The Wolverine 7) X-Men 6) Deadpool 2 5) Deadpool 4) Days of Future Past 3) First Class 2) X2 1) Logan
Logan has been one of my favorite movies to date. The humor works, but even without those rare instances Logan is such a well represented and nuanced character, struggling to find a good reason to live for. Such a good movie.
I rewatched the Wolverine before watching Logan, and honestly i was surprised by how good it was. Certainly much better than i rememebered it, not that i had thought it was bad. Infact it was damn good, aside from the goofy last act, which may have been what lingered in most peoples minds. My top 4 is Logan, X2 , DOFP and First Class as well.
1. Logan 2. First Class 3. Deadpool 4. Deadpool 2 5. X2 6. X Men 7. The Wolverine 8. Days of Future Past 9. The Last Stand 10. Apocalypse 11. Dark Phoenix 12. Origins
captainmidnight, your points are 100% spot-on for X2. To this day, it is my favorite X-Men film after Logan and the only one I feel that actually gave development to most everyone on the team. From Iceman overcoming his own insecurities, to Rogue becoming more confident with her powers, to Jean coming to terms with her powers and her fears that they might harm more than help, and so on. Plus, it's much more thematically rich than most films in the franchise. As the cherry on top, it has so many small moments that elevate it above most of the others; Storm and Nightcrawler having a conversation about faith and pity, Magneto being the first to encourage Pyro to use his powers instead of controlling them, even something as simple as Rogue giving Wolvie his dogtags back. Brilliant.
I absolutely love the nostalgically done clips you put throughout your videos, they really add a wonderfully unique and distinct element to them, and are simply a joy to view themselves.
1. Logan (2017) 2. First Class (2011) 3. Day of the Future Past (2014) 4. Deadpool 2 (2018) 5. Deadpool (2016) 6. X2 (2003) 7. X-men (2000) 8. Apocalypse (2016) 9. X-Men: Last Stand (2007) 10. Dark Phoeinx (2019) 11. The Wolverine (2013) 12. Origins (2009)
Your comparison of the first x man and the first spiderman movie was spot on. Both seemed to keep the characters grounded and the environment more closed and personal. Thank you
Honestly I know I’m in the minority but Logan was really amazing movie and I hope it’s the end of wolverines use in future movies ( for a while). The movie is a metaphor for the industry and it feels like they ( marvel) won’t top it for a while.
@3:36 x-Men animated series used a mutant cure storyline in its first season you might come to remember it as how apocalypse was able to manipulate desperate Mutants into becoming his next incarnation of the four horseman.
I first watched X Men Origins as a copy that hadn't actually finished editing as you could still see wires attached to the actors and some scenes were all in mocap, thought that was funny to share
My list: 1. Logan 2. X2 3. X Men: Days Of Future Past 4. The Wolverine 5. X Men: First Class 6. X Men 7. X Men: The Last Stand 8. X Men Origins: Wolverine 9. X Men: Apocalypse 10. X Men: Dark Phoenix
1. X2 2. Logan 3. Days Of Future Past 4. Deadpool 5. First Class 6. Deadpool 2 7. X-Men 8. The Wolverine 9. The Last Stand 10. Origins Wolverine 11. Apocalypse 12. Dark Phoenix 13. New Mutants
It was so bad that I started making rifftrack like comments while watching it with friends in theaters. My favorite was saying the soldiers' guns were filled with Advil when they were capturing the mutants after the house exploded.
Caleb They’re all bad. To me Origins is so bad it’s good though and at least with Apocalypse it works as a popcorn flick - lots of great CGI, decent action, a team of 5 villains who are all palatable aside from Storm, etc. Dark Phoenix was just boring though. Felt very low budget like it was made for TV, pacing was weird, the main characters were very unlikeable (at least Cyclops & Jean had less screen time in Apocalypse). Overall I’m not sure which movies better. But if I was forced to rewatch one then I’d pick Origins and Apocalypse before Dark Phoenix, personally.
@@stankrause9589 I'm 18 lol, I just think that the old cast films aren't that good and pretty cringe when compared to the first class cast, I prefer most of the new actors too, although Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart were bright spots
(IMDB/RTas/TITLE) 01.)8.1 |90| Logan Tie)8.0 |90| Deadpool Tie)7.9 |91| Days of Future Past 04.)7.7 |87| First Class 05.)7.7 |85| Deadpool 2 06.)7.4 |85| X2 07.)7.4 |83| X-Men 08.)6.7 |69| The Wolverine 09.)6.9 |65| Apocalypse 10.)6.7 |61| The Last Stand 11.)6.6 |58| Origins Wolverine 12.)5.7 |64| Dark Phoenix 13.)5.3 |56| The New Mutants "RTas" means Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score
1. Logan (by a wide margin) 2. First Class 3. Deadpool 4. Days of Future Past 5. Deadpool 2 6. X2 7. X-men 8. The Wolverine 9. X-men 3 10. Apocalypse 11. Origins 12. Dark Phoenix
12:45 - A cinematic franchise that also does this are the James Bond movies. From Pierce Brosnan driving an invisible car in „Die another day“ to Daniel Craig in „Casino Royale“ there was a huge tonal shift. Of course not with the same actors... here Logan really takes the cake.
@@AUM_-po9sc Yes, I was just pointing to the fact that he said "European Nazi hunting" when Eric was looking for them in South America. (At least I think I did, idk, that comment is a year old lmao)
I'm one of those weird people who wasn't a huge fan of the first Deadpool but finds the second one hilarious and surprisingly heartfelt. I'm the same with GotG 2, another film I found to be more emotionally satisfying than the first.
I feel Dead Pool, as popular as it is, is actually a little underrated by most people who don't like it. I keep talking to people who basically make it sound more like they just don't like Dead Pool in general or the character's humor, but the thing is, that's more of an opinion on the source than it is the film, because the things people hate the most about the film are the things most accurate to the way the character is supposed to feel. He's a walking shitpost, full of references, slapstick grim-derp, and a severe abuse of third-wall-jokes and "twitter culture" memes. If all that sounds cringe to you, that's all fine, but even still, the film should be recognized as the most perfect adaption of the character we have ever seen, and likely ever will see.
This is kind of an unpopular opinion, but I was genuinely excited about the direction Fox was taking their X-Men Cinematic Universe in, branching out and having more creative concepts, rather than building towards some larger story. Had the XCU continued we would have gotten Laura/X-23 (Western), X-Force (Black Ops), Gambit (Heist), Shadowcat/Kitty Pryde (Home Invasion), and Multiple Man (James Franco-led R-rated comedy). Hopefully at the very least when New Mutants finally drops it will be a genuinely scary horror flick.
I think deadpool 2 is better than tr original, it has a more interesting conflict for deadpool u solve and i see the jokes about the same as the first one
1. Deadpool 2 2. Deadpool 3. X-Men : Days of Future Past 4. X-Men: First Class 5. Logan 6. X2 7. X-Men 8. X-Men: The Last Stand 9. The Wolverine 10. X-Men: Apocalypse 11. X-Men: Dark Phoenix 12. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
I mean, the original Old Man Logan mini series was pretty terrible, being edgy just to be edgy (Mark Millar gotta Mark Millar - I mean, Red Skull wearing Cap's face? Everyone is dead, a murderer or a prostitute?). The monthly run was a lot better, but Logan blew both of them away.
I'm glad you acknowledged some of X2's biggest flaws. I've always found it overrated and liked the original better. It was basically a Wolverine origin movie that rendered the later actual Wolverine origins movie redundant, at the expense of Cyclops (taken out of action at the beginning of the movie? The hell?) and Storm (who got so little character development that they had to rewrite X3 to make her the leader of the X-Men or else Halle Berry wasn't going to come back). The idea of the X-Men and the Brotherhood teaming up against a greater threat was a great way to go after the first one, but Striker wasn't a credible enough villain to warrant it.
What's your favorite X-Men film?
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The only one I've seen is Logan but I loved it. They really should have put all the X-Men movies on Netflix :(
I love you
I think my favorite is Days of Future Past, but I can acknowledge that Logan is a better film.
Apocalypse is the only one i came out of the cinema thinking why did I pay for that 😂
"Why does his baldness need a tragic back story?" lol
Well, there's precedent set long ago with Lex Luthor, isn't there.
Hair Today,
Gone Tomorrow.
Many guys would argue baldness is its own tragedy.
Why can’t he just like his hair like that or have male pattern baldness
"And that... Is how I lost my hair..."
Most tragic part of Wolverine Origins was that opening sequence from all the wars. Could have made a great trilogy out of just that.
Imagine Logan going berserk during the Civil War then cut forward to WW2.
They should have at least done the first movie that way.
Wolverine:world in war
I know! I just picture a character study about a man killing his way through generations. Living long enough to serve with the grandchildren of the men he’s killed.
It could be so good.
but we got trash CGI claws killing a sink
@Irsyad Aman ah yes ,the hobo that regenerates when he drinks, and has giant metal nails, love his story
The Nightcrawler fight at the begining of X2 was the "Quicksilver kitchen scene" of the original trilogy.
Not really. The quicksilver scene is mostly comedic whereas nightcrawler is meant to be threatening and his scene focuses on the action
Not to mention the perfect prelude to the emotional core of the b-story, Nightcrawler
TheKillzone32 wait, can I count days of future past as half original and half new x-men movies
@TheKillzone23 I agree. They are two of the best moments of the X-Men franchise.
Well put
Fun Fact: Because of how poorly received the previous film was, X-men Origins Magneto was rewritten to X-men First Class. That's why the film's Magneto arc is so fleshed out is because it was originally it's own film.
Thats so cool!
I would def watch a movie of Magneto in the nazi killin business
That is actually amazing.
I really hope the MCU xmen are more focused on the team itself and not just wolverine and professor X i want Cyclops to have actual character
Lego Post Malone My advise to Marvel Studios when adapting their take on X-Men (and Fantastic Four): copy from Doom Patrol.
That show is a better live action take on both properties, plus this wouldn’t be the first time X-Men ripped off from that team. So if the movie was to succeed, Marvel Studios (in the first time ever) should copy from DC.
I think the first MCU X-Men movie shouldn’t even have wolverine.
@@drewnolde2674 100% agree I want them to focus om characters that never got the spotlight in fox
Drew Nolde So like a more faithful take on First Class?
Cause if so here are some basic guidelines I would do:
1) Have Cyclops be the main protagonist of this series of films. It will definitely set them apart from the Fox Men series.
2) The team dynamic/interaction should be something similar to Breakfast Club or (better yet) the Power Ranger movie .
3) The main X-Men team are formed due to five students from the Institute using their powers outside the estate by preventing a mass shooting.
4) Professor X in the movie is initially reluctant of his students using their powers in public, but as the film progress becomes more open to them using their gifts as a team realizing that is wrong to keep such special talent a secret.
5) Have two Big Bads for the film: Magneto for the mutant side and Boliver Trask for the human side.
6) In response to a Stark-less world, Bolivar Trask took up said role by modifying the whole “Party Mode” protocol of his armors to be used for the basis of the Sentinel project for the purpose of protecting the public from dangerous metahumans.
7) Magneto and The Brotherhood of Mutants will initially start out as being good guys that is beloved by the public in the MCU, but due to the combination of bad publicity from political figures, witnessing personally the racism from humanity and a third influence that I will talk about later, the group will turn heel and start to go against the people they once save (like the song Iron Man).
8) Mastermind is the Bigger Bad of the film who uses his illusion powers and manipulation to instigate further the hysteria among the Brotherhood and Sentinel Project. Basically he wants to instigate a war between the humans and mutants as part of his duties in the Inner Circle.
Just do with Cyclops what they did with Captain America and they should be fine. Focus on his morality & loyalty as a way to swerve away from the goofiness and do-gooder reputation of previous representations.
That way when they have tension between him and Wolverine (who should be introduced after the other X-Men members first team up) then it won’t feel like we’ll have to pick sides, but instead it’ll be similar to Cap vs Iron Man in the regard that we can admire both sides of the conflict.
Also, make Wolverine comic accurate. So more educated, less attractive, shorter and more gruff, etc. So don’t hire Tom Hardy or Dan Radcliffe. Radcliffe can be Beast. Hire someone unknown and young.
Or if they really want to surprise me then hire Jack Black with weight loss and steroids. /s
I swear, that montage of Logan and Sabretooth going through the major wars was better than the whole entire movie
*"Why did his baldness need a tragic backstory?"*
Perfect
That was really hilariously worded 😂
Umar Tahir
Yeah lol
I'm praying for a good cyclops after the last two being completely meh and underwhelming. I mean he's the leader after all. If they establish a compelling cyclops the jean grey wolverine love triangle will actually work and I honestly don't fear marvel screwing up wolverine after having like 7 movies which serve as a blueprint on how it's done.
@@sidescream9 To be honest, I'm sick of that love triangle. They should just get rid of it.
Because his baldness is the most powerful X-Men mutation of all. How dare you question the rationale behind that reasoning.
"then again so did the MCU" - well well well.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE???
The MCU did not waste Quicksilver, they just couldn’t use him has much as Fox due to the movie rights. So technically, Fox screwed over Quicksilver in the MCU and their X Men universe.
Aaaand now that quote is relevant again.
Things have changed
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Logan is hands down the best movie they came out with. It was also Hugh Jackman's final movie as The Wolverine.
That’s because both Mangold and Jackman were allowed creative freedom and the hacks at Fox kept their hands to themselves.
Alexander Angelus and thank god for that
It may have been a great Wolverine film, but not a good x men film. Seriously, the bloody trilogy was more focused on Logan than the actual X men!
@@tayojones9460 Yeah, but so? Logan was never meant to be an X-Men film, the X-Men themselves are only alluded to, never properly named in the film, not even flashbacks are included. The original film was to begin with Xavier killing the X-Men by accident due to his seizures, and they pulled it out of the film because Mangold wanted to focus the story on Logan, Xavier and Laura. It's almost a given that when they enter the MCU, the X-Men will be focusing more on the team dynamic, but for what we got from the original run, Logan was a masterpiece.
Given Feige's patience for holding back fan favorites until it's the right time, I imagine Wolverine won't even show up in the first film they get the X-Men in. They'll first make us fall in love with the more underappreciated ones (Cyclops and Storm especially who were never properly realized) and then he'll bring on Logan in a sequel or something.
@@golden1324 Yeah, seriously, and to think it's the exact same team behind The Wolverine... We could have gotten two phenomenal Wolverine movies instead of just one, but at least they went all out with the one they could do properly. All studios save for Marvel should fuck off from the creative process and just do what they were meant to do, all the distribution and financial shit. Yes, have someone monitor the money that goes in and out, but if you have such a great cast and crew, just unleash them and watch money flow in. Every time I see a great team behind an average or bad movie I always think "the studios couldn't keep it in their pants". 9 times out of 10, the word "studio meddling" escorts the bad reviews for the film or the reason behind it bombing commercially.
12. Dark Phoenix
11. X-Men: Apocalypse
10: X-Men: The Last Stand
9. Wolverine: X-Men Origins
8. The Wolverine
7. Deadpool 2
6. X-Men
5. X2
4. Deadpool
3. X-Men: First Class
2. X-Men: Days of Future Past
1. Logan
I’m gonna say dark Phoenix isn’t that bad as people try to make it seem very very bad but it’s not good.
@@hibird7304 awful
I definitely agree with this list, Days of Future Past and Logan are easily the best of the X-Men movies imo. And dark Phoenix, though entertaining at times, was incredibly disappointing and royally screwed up the timeline even more
I would move Deadpool 2 and The wolverine up, put Wolverine between Xmen and X2 and Deadpool 2 above deadpool, but other than that this is a great list
@@HippityhoppityGnW For me, I would have Deadpool 2 at my number #8 spot well I do kinda love it, have The Wolverine at my number #6 spot which I really loved before Logan came out, X-men 1 at my #7 spot which I kinda love, and X2 at number #2 spot which I really loved and Logan at #1 because it’s the best X-men film along with first class, days of future past, and X2.
Future past was ahead of its time, when you go back it’s surprisingly dark to watch all of our favorite X-men get murdered brutally
Murdered twice.
Not really since everything get erased pretty much immediately
Days of Future Past is the best and in the Top-10 of best comic book movies ever.
Damn I guess I should see it then. I loved first class but haven't seen anything x-men related since
Don't forget Logan
Maybe just 10th...but idk
Days of future past sucks... It's just nonsense, like most time travel movies... Don't get seduced/fooled by the visuals. The only good x-men is first class. Period. I'll go even further and say it's the only good super hero movie alongside the Nolan batman trilogy...
@@m3gAnac0nda then you have no sense for humor. Thor ragnarok is a great comedy, and the guardians of the galaxys are at least good.
Infinity war delivers almost everything one could want except it has a faceless army battle at the end.
1:36 I’ll take this over nick fury’s tragic backstory of losing his eye to a cat the fact that someone wrote that down is mind boggling
Technically, Ryan Reynolds first appearance as Deadpool is in Deadpool. In Wolverine Origins, he is credited as Wade Wilson, and he is never referred to as Deadpool in the movie.
Actually Fett, Stryker did in fact refer to Baraka-pool as Deadpool in the film. Weapon XI: The Deadpool.
Actually striker refers to him as Deadpool
"Why did his baldness need a tragic back story?" That's a great line.
Logan is definitely my favorite. I feel like The Wolverine is underrated. I need to think of my list.
Deadpool 2 on Number 8, that's gotta sting 😬
@@SourRobo8364 Same honestly. Felt more like one continuous storyline, wasn't nearly as disjointed, didn't have the burden of having to go through an origin story, and it actually did the Juggernaut justice after the travesty that was The Last Stand.
Cyberdemon Mike If you don’t read the comics or know the cartoons it may be better, but for me that was just Vinnie Jones in a silly half bondage half fake rocks outfit.
Not to mention it just feels out of place to have a burly middle aged British geezer in the middle of a high budget superhero blockbuster.
I do agree Deadpool 2’s Juggernaut was very forgettable. But I don’t think The Last Stand’s was great either. Both were bad.
DP2 only got him visually accurate but aside from that he could’ve been replaced with any other mutant and the story would still function fine. That’s why I think they should’ve put Blob instead of wasting Juggernaut.
But yeah Last Stand’s Juggernaut was trash imo
I was shocked but happy he rated both of them so low. Deadpool 1 was decent but deadpool 2 was really rough for me, I didn't expect to get tired of the character so fast but I genuinely did
Cyberdemon Mike “I’m the juggernaut bitch” came from an internet meme first though. The Last Stand referencing it was just the writers trying to be hip.
Most people agree it really wasn’t that badass. I respect your opinion though
@@RaidsEpicly I think ultimately Deadpool 2 has higher highs and lower lows than Deadpool. There are certainly really good parts but the movie's quality bounces around and the movie is even aware of that at times, which pulled my overall view of the movie down compared to the first.
I think wolverine from Logan looks like Joel from the last of us at certain times, it’s probably the beard
Sam Wilson you should check out Prisoners. Jackman literally plays Joel in that film. It’s the closest we’ll ever get to him playing that part, and it’s a damn shame because he really would be the perfect pick for the role.
And the little girl sidekick, even though the ACTUAL sidekick is, ironically, in The Avengers (she’s the waitress Cap saves in New York).
I'd like to see you talk about the X-men cartoons at some point. Obv TAS is the best, but Evolution and Wolverine and the X-men are good too.
I absolutly LOVED X Men: Evolution as a child! Next to Teen Titans it was my favourite show!
Evolution was decent.Not as good as Teen Titans or Batman the Animated Series but not badly written,solid acting and a solid ending overall.
X-Men TAS is only good if you grew up with it. It’s reputation now relies on the nostalgia of its audience
1. Logan
2. Days of Future Past
3. First Class
4. Deadpool
5. X-Men
6. Deadpool 2
7. X2
8. The Wolverine
9. The Last Stand
10. Origins
11. Apocalypse
12. Dark Phoenix
Honestly Days of Future past might be my favorite x men movie.
Murphy’s Law Same! I was looking for someone else in the comment section.
x men origins chronically underrated
Not gonna lie, that was one of the smoothest transitions to a sponsor. ✊
Domino by herself makes Deadpool 2 higher.
Her luck works even in the YT comments 😃
0:57 I do find the tragedy of Magneto incredibly moving, even if the context isn't coherent.
Me, too, but I hate it how he suddenly wants to kill the whole planet and then, suddenly remembers Charles‘ love for him (Which is a very awesome moment!) and then immediately takes back. It’s just.... what I always liked about Magneto was that he was always sure which way to go. He never trembled before. But here, they make him look so inconsistent that it feels very forced.
watching it I really felt like it was super excessive and just an excuse to have erik become magneto again. like if it was a movie about erik, like first class, I'd understand it as a tragedy but instead i just felt like.... too much... man's a holocaust survivor no more tragedy please
People forget that silent deadpool is a callback, Stryker says “you’d be a perfect soldier without that mouth on you” so he literally takes the mouth off him
So? That doesn't make it good lmao
"What mouth?"
Putting aside that I really like The Wolverine and have a bit of a soft spot for Last Stand, I can totally get behind this list.
I start my 8 week summer vacation with being sick, but a new Captain Midnight video always lifts my mood. Thanks man!
1. Logan
2. First Class
3. DOFP
4. X2
5. Deadpool 2
6. Deadpool
7. Xmen
8. Wolverine
9. X3
10. Apocalypse
11. Origins
12. Dark Phoenix
This makes me really wanna do a ranking video. Great video!
Did not see Dark Phoenix
11 Origins Wolverine
10 The Last Stand
9 Apocalypse
8 The Wolverine
7 Deadpool 2
6 X-Men
5 Deadpool
4 Days of Future Past
3 First Class
2 X2
1 Logan
*reads the first line...
Good for you man
Swap Origins Wolverine and The Wolverine and your list is identical to mine.
Dark Phoenix was good. You are robbing yourself. Its a solid addition to the FOX-Men Universe. Much better than the bad ones.
Caleb I don't want to waste my money with "meh" movies.
@@Badmunky64 Not gonna lie, but X-men origins is way worser then The Wolverine, the Wolverine trilogy actually started to improve and get way better, the Wolverine was good and improved but not the best. Overall, it is your opinion so I won’t try to bash it and respect it :).
the best thing this film franchise brought us was those few quicksilver scenes. absolutely iconic & the best version of the character to date. fully captures his personality and energy
Logan’s probably the closest a Marvel film has ever come to matching The Dark Knight. I say that with no hyperbole
Ben Wasserman it beats the dark knight in terms of quality. Now if the movie had had kite man
Haha and it was made by fox.
Spiderman 2 leaves both of those in the dust and as far as "gritty realism" goes, Blade 98 did it better and way before Nolan was associated with batman reboots.
(cough cough Daredevil)
The Sentinel Spider-Man 2 is a joke compared to these two movies
While I'm not big on how low Deadpool 2 was on the list, I''m glad to see some respect for The Wolverine. That or First Class are the most underrated of the franchise, imo.
Like yeah, even tho I like Deadpool 2, I still do not understand why people think Wolverine is worser then Deadpool 2, people who have Wolverine ranked low on their list don’t know what a good Wolverine movie is or should be. Deadpool 2 has too many plot lines going on which make the movie and the Wolverine movie doesn’t, and still don’t freaking understand why people think Deadpool 2 is better 🤦♂️.
The quick silver running scene makes apocalypse one of my fav x men films
I love it but it makes Quicksilver too powerful and the films just try to get him out of the way
Also loved when Apoc pwned the speedster as it should be!
Honestly, I liked DP2 more than the first. The first one was really just (story-wise) a standard middle of the road superhero origin, with more restrained humor and not enough to make it highly rewatchable. The second one was more wild and had an actual plot, and I would totally rewatch it over and over again.
The Wolverine Origins could have been a trilogy in itself:
1) A movie with focus on Logan discovering his powers and dealing with them; and the war thing with Sabretooth.
2) The romantic one, with Sabretooth killing his wife and Logan seeking revenge upon him.
3) The whole thing with the team, deadpool and the Weapon X stuff
The Wolverine is one of my favorite superhero movies of all time
Take a shot everytime captainmidnight unnecessarily uses the words "himself", "herself" , or "itself" when thinking he has redundantly referenced someone or something in his videos.
Having said that, I love these videos.
Hahaha you’re not wrong.
am I the only one who think beast looks the best in first class?
Like, he isn't just a blue guy he actually looks like a beast.
X men first class is a masterpiece, I might just have some nostalgia for it, but I love it
It sucks how the events of Apocalypse were not referenced in Dark Phoenix, like at all. All the great landmarks gone and no one was talking about the consequences.
They referenced Storm’s time as a horsemen.
I know, that was so weird. Say what you will about First Class/DoFP/Apocalypse, ALL THREE of them prominently built off of each other and referenced each other.
@@mr.moviemafia Phoenix builds heavily on Days of Future Past.
@@agentofchaos7456 Not enough really when you compare to other movies
I actually enjoyed dark Phoenix. But wasnt the greatest. But enjoyable.
Unpopular opinion here: origins wolverine is in the top 3 best.
I’m not a troll, I sincerely enjoy the action, the emotional moments, the amazing music, the interactions, the acting, it was all great. I feel like people love to hate it just because of Deadpool but it didn’t matter to me because I didn’t know who Deadpool was at that time.
You're delirious with fever friend. Rest, you'll be better in no time.
Tornado Chaser well, prove me wrong without talking about the bad cgi claws or Deadpool which everyone has already talked about.
@@AgarioGameplays Let the fever pass first, and then we'll talk.
I would probably list mine as
12) X-Men Origins
11) Apocolypse
10) Last Stand
9) Dark Phoenix
8) The Wolverine
7) X-Men
6) Deadpool 2
5) Deadpool
4) Days of Future Past
3) First Class
2) X2
1) Logan
Logan has been one of my favorite movies to date. The humor works, but even without those rare instances Logan is such a well represented and nuanced character, struggling to find a good reason to live for. Such a good movie.
I rewatched the Wolverine before watching Logan, and honestly i was surprised by how good it was. Certainly much better than i rememebered it, not that i had thought it was bad.
Infact it was damn good, aside from the goofy last act, which may have been what lingered in most peoples minds.
My top 4 is Logan, X2 , DOFP and First Class as well.
Days of future past was my personal favourite x men film.
1. Logan
2. First Class
3. Deadpool
4. Deadpool 2
5. X2
6. X Men
7. The Wolverine
8. Days of Future Past
9. The Last Stand
10. Apocalypse
11. Dark Phoenix
12. Origins
Seems like you and I are the only ones who didn't like DOFP...
Dude same here
Same but Deadpool 1 and 2 switched
Ryan Wallace I didn’t like it either
captainmidnight, your points are 100% spot-on for X2. To this day, it is my favorite X-Men film after Logan and the only one I feel that actually gave development to most everyone on the team.
From Iceman overcoming his own insecurities, to Rogue becoming more confident with her powers, to Jean coming to terms with her powers and her fears that they might harm more than help, and so on. Plus, it's much more thematically rich than most films in the franchise.
As the cherry on top, it has so many small moments that elevate it above most of the others; Storm and Nightcrawler having a conversation about faith and pity, Magneto being the first to encourage Pyro to use his powers instead of controlling them, even something as simple as Rogue giving Wolvie his dogtags back. Brilliant.
"X-Men meets James Bond meets Men in Black".
So basically Kingsman?
Wesley Hunt Director of that movie did work on First Class
@@BigK13372 Well, he was actually the director of that movie too.
Speaking of kingsman, what did everyone here think of golden circle? I really enjoyed the first film but kind of hated it as a sequel
@@RaidsEpicly It was far less well received than the first one.
I absolutely love the nostalgically done clips you put throughout your videos, they really add a wonderfully unique and distinct element to them, and are simply a joy to view themselves.
1. Logan (2017)
2. First Class (2011)
3. Day of the Future Past (2014)
4. Deadpool 2 (2018)
5. Deadpool (2016)
6. X2 (2003)
7. X-men (2000)
8. Apocalypse (2016)
9. X-Men: Last Stand (2007)
10. Dark Phoeinx (2019)
11. The Wolverine (2013)
12. Origins (2009)
Well that’s just hating on Wolverine
Your comparison of the first x man and the first spiderman movie was spot on. Both seemed to keep the characters grounded and the environment more closed and personal. Thank you
The Xmen movies ended with Logan, hopefully the MCU doesnt end with Endgame(pertaining quality)
publicricky yes it should’ve have Bc of the way his daughter flipped the cross to the iconic X and that would’ve been the perfect sendoff
Honestly I know I’m in the minority but Logan was really amazing movie and I hope it’s the end of wolverines use in future movies ( for a while). The movie is a metaphor for the industry and it feels like they ( marvel) won’t top it for a while.
@@paulakroy2635 The topping of Logan will be done once they start adapting Doctor Doom, but that's just my opinion because I really love Doctor Doom.
Elesh Lee Noah Hayley script ( if they use it🤞 ) would be amazing.
@@paulakroy2635 Do you have a link? I'll Google it anyway.
@3:36 x-Men animated series used a mutant cure storyline in its first season you might come to remember it as how apocalypse was able to manipulate desperate Mutants into becoming his next incarnation of the four horseman.
i got good news about quicksilver being wasted
Very seldom do I agree with every entry on an internet list, but this is literally perfect.
I first watched X Men Origins as a copy that hadn't actually finished editing as you could still see wires attached to the actors and some scenes were all in mocap, thought that was funny to share
My list:
1. Logan
2. X2
3. X Men: Days Of Future Past
4. The Wolverine
5. X Men: First Class
6. X Men
7. X Men: The Last Stand
8. X Men Origins: Wolverine
9. X Men: Apocalypse
10. X Men: Dark Phoenix
Awesome video man - your content is so creative and i love every video! Keep doing what you're doing, it's incredible
Logan
Days of Future Past
X2
The rest can be placed In any order because these 3 are in a tier of their own.
Am I the only one who enjoyed Apocalypse?
I did too, I think it gets bashed too much and I don't really see it
It’s a decent movie it isn’t horrible like most people say
1. X2
2. Logan
3. Days Of Future Past
4. Deadpool
5. First Class
6. Deadpool 2
7. X-Men
8. The Wolverine
9. The Last Stand
10. Origins Wolverine
11. Apocalypse
12. Dark Phoenix
13. New Mutants
X-men Apocalypse? Damn that's harsh. And it's the ONLY film I have never watched. 😂
Just watch the quicksilver scene that's the only thing worth watching
Let's not forget that this man has seen every single movie in existence 😂
It was so bad that I started making rifftrack like comments while watching it with friends in theaters. My favorite was saying the soldiers' guns were filled with Advil when they were capturing the mutants after the house exploded.
It was honestly pretty good; don't understand the hate
@@BoolioTM The Quicksilver scene is arguably the best in the movie. A lot of the action is pretty good but otherwise the movie is forgettable.
WHY. DIDN'T. THEY. END. WITH. LOGAN. 😭😭😭
Ayush Shah I mean, at least it’s chronologically the last one.
Because money.
That's the question we're all asking my friend, that's the question.
why would they kill such a succesful series
@@Ali-vr2dj technically it’s in its own timeline
My list:
X- Men DOFP
Logan
Deadpool
First Class
Deadpool 2
X-Men
X-2
The Wolverine
X-Men Origins Wolverine
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Ranking Dark Phoenix below Apocalypse and Origins is insane.
@@CalebByRamen They are both pretty bad but I guess Dark Phoenix is more recent and I haven't watched Apocalypse since it came out
Caleb They’re all bad. To me Origins is so bad it’s good though and at least with Apocalypse it works as a popcorn flick - lots of great CGI, decent action, a team of 5 villains who are all palatable aside from Storm, etc.
Dark Phoenix was just boring though. Felt very low budget like it was made for TV, pacing was weird, the main characters were very unlikeable (at least Cyclops & Jean had less screen time in Apocalypse).
Overall I’m not sure which movies better. But if I was forced to rewatch one then I’d pick Origins and Apocalypse before Dark Phoenix, personally.
no way you’re over 18
@@stankrause9589 I'm 18 lol, I just think that the old cast films aren't that good and pretty cringe when compared to the first class cast, I prefer most of the new actors too, although Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart were bright spots
(IMDB/RTas/TITLE)
01.)8.1 |90| Logan
Tie)8.0 |90| Deadpool
Tie)7.9 |91| Days of Future Past
04.)7.7 |87| First Class
05.)7.7 |85| Deadpool 2
06.)7.4 |85| X2
07.)7.4 |83| X-Men
08.)6.7 |69| The Wolverine
09.)6.9 |65| Apocalypse
10.)6.7 |61| The Last Stand
11.)6.6 |58| Origins Wolverine
12.)5.7 |64| Dark Phoenix
13.)5.3 |56| The New Mutants
"RTas" means Rotten Tomatoes
Audience Score
Thank you I can’t really even rewatch Apocolypse after watching it once
Good ranking.
Top 5 for me is:
1. Days of the Future's Past
2. First Class
3. X2
4. Logan
5. Deadpool
Deadpool, First Class, and Logan are my favorites
I'm just glad to know I'm not the only one who wasn't "All In" on the Deadpool flicks.
1. Logan (by a wide margin)
2. First Class
3. Deadpool
4. Days of Future Past
5. Deadpool 2
6. X2
7. X-men
8. The Wolverine
9. X-men 3
10. Apocalypse
11. Origins
12. Dark Phoenix
God I love the way you make videos midnight!!
Nice to have my gut feelings about X2 validated 👍🏼
12:45 - A cinematic franchise that also does this are the James Bond movies. From Pierce Brosnan driving an invisible car in „Die another day“ to Daniel Craig in „Casino Royale“ there was a huge tonal shift. Of course not with the same actors... here Logan really takes the cake.
I think the worst movie is the first one about Wolverine.
Unfortunately, this is true.
And this is the best Logan. But it is not without flaws.
That ad transition was almost as smooth as Adam Ragusea's
"With Eric's european Nazi hunting..."
*shows footage of Eric in Argentina (South America)*
Well, Nazis did hide in those countries..
@@AUM_-po9sc Yes, I was just pointing to the fact that he said "European Nazi hunting" when Eric was looking for them in South America. (At least I think I did, idk, that comment is a year old lmao)
i appreciate that your editing is getting more detailed!
I'm one of those weird people who wasn't a huge fan of the first Deadpool but finds the second one hilarious and surprisingly heartfelt. I'm the same with GotG 2, another film I found to be more emotionally satisfying than the first.
I feel Dead Pool, as popular as it is, is actually a little underrated by most people who don't like it. I keep talking to people who basically make it sound more like they just don't like Dead Pool in general or the character's humor, but the thing is, that's more of an opinion on the source than it is the film, because the things people hate the most about the film are the things most accurate to the way the character is supposed to feel. He's a walking shitpost, full of references, slapstick grim-derp, and a severe abuse of third-wall-jokes and "twitter culture" memes. If all that sounds cringe to you, that's all fine, but even still, the film should be recognized as the most perfect adaption of the character we have ever seen, and likely ever will see.
A huge collection of characters and Fox focuses on the same characters over and over again 😑
Yup. Days of Future Past should have been a Kitty Pryde film. Apocalypse should have been an Angel film.
Fox doesn't have Marvel's courage. Never did.
This is kind of an unpopular opinion, but I was genuinely excited about the direction Fox was taking their X-Men Cinematic Universe in, branching out and having more creative concepts, rather than building towards some larger story. Had the XCU continued we would have gotten Laura/X-23 (Western), X-Force (Black Ops), Gambit (Heist), Shadowcat/Kitty Pryde (Home Invasion), and Multiple Man (James Franco-led R-rated comedy). Hopefully at the very least when New Mutants finally drops it will be a genuinely scary horror flick.
Your videos never cease to disappoint, it's kind of impressive that you don't improve
First class it is the best x men movie so far!
This List is Spot-On!
I was excited that you did a tier video. Then the video started with Apocalypse....
They made 12 X-Men?
13
That brief 5 second clip of the 90s X-Men cartoon opening credits was miles better than all the films you listed, save for like the last 3
I think deadpool 2 is better than tr original, it has a more interesting conflict for deadpool u solve and i see the jokes about the same as the first one
1. Deadpool 2
2. Deadpool
3. X-Men : Days of Future Past
4. X-Men: First Class
5. Logan
6. X2
7. X-Men
8. X-Men: The Last Stand
9. The Wolverine
10. X-Men: Apocalypse
11. X-Men: Dark Phoenix
12. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
New Mutants never existed Captain, please go home to your family.
Logan adapted the old man Logan comic book concept so well to the film. Easily my favourite X movie
I mean, the original Old Man Logan mini series was pretty terrible, being edgy just to be edgy (Mark Millar gotta Mark Millar - I mean, Red Skull wearing Cap's face? Everyone is dead, a murderer or a prostitute?). The monthly run was a lot better, but Logan blew both of them away.
Honestly, I only really liked Logan, Deadpool 1, Deadpool 2 and maybe First Class
The second goddamn time midnight beat me to a video idea. With similar rankings too. Damn you, you talented essay writer
Except Deadpool 2. That’s the best one for me
@@theramblinggeek5096 deadpool 2 the best?
Bram Steenhoek it’s my personal favorite
You forgot green lantern which as deadpool 2 confirms is the prequel to Deadpool franchise ( and thus the x-men franchise).
Mate, don't even try it... Green Lantern is a DC movie, not Fox, they are NOT in the same universe just because the same actor plays them *Facepalm*
Casper Ryborg R/wooooooooooooooooosh
You're right about Logan though. I always find myself re-watching that movie for a many times now. And it never gets old.
I respect your opinion but in my opinion, Ryan Reynolds is outstanding as deadpool my guy
I'm glad you acknowledged some of X2's biggest flaws. I've always found it overrated and liked the original better. It was basically a Wolverine origin movie that rendered the later actual Wolverine origins movie redundant, at the expense of Cyclops (taken out of action at the beginning of the movie? The hell?) and Storm (who got so little character development that they had to rewrite X3 to make her the leader of the X-Men or else Halle Berry wasn't going to come back). The idea of the X-Men and the Brotherhood teaming up against a greater threat was a great way to go after the first one, but Striker wasn't a credible enough villain to warrant it.