31-year old laptop upgraded with Wi-Fi and USB storage. Toshiba T3200SXC.
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This is an updated video and final look at the upgraded Toshiba T3200SXC vintage laptop (1991). Now it has USB storage, internal Wi-Fi card that works with MS-DOS and Windows 3.11, new power supply with an option to run off USB-C powerbanks, and new LCD screen. This is an entry video for Hackaday 2022 Prize. Project details are published here: hackaday.io/pr...
Ah, yes. Casually designing your own power supply and hackintosh-ing your way into a 31-year old system.
All jokes aside, this was very cool to watch. I have a T3200SX and now I want the C variant, just for this. You've spoiled me, Sir
This might be my favorite retro PC restoration/upgrade so far and somewhat of a glimpse of what could've been if multimedia capability like active matrix screens and sound had become mainstream in laptops prior to the very late 486/early Pentium era. Very well done!
Thank you! The technology indeed did exist back then, but the cost was extremely high (inflation-adjusted price for this laptop in 1991 in such configuration, with maxed RAM, sound card etc. would probably be around 23000 today's US dollars).
This thing can run Windows 95, lets go!!
Amazing restoration and modification
New subs here
heh, 386sx20 was also my first cpu of choice. What a powerhouse.
Oh my, that USB/SMB share method is genius. I love how you tried to maintain the original look and feel of the laptop. Definitely looking forward for more.
Thank you! I already started making an additional video about the USB + WiFi mod, so a more detailed instruction will be published.
Yep that's an ingenious way to get USB onto it. I was wondering how it would be done, then saw the network cable snaking back inside the machine and was like oohh! Then of course the video reveals all.
awesome work..
This is the kind of restoration I want to see…!! Amazing job Boss.. keep it up!
How do you only have 370 subscribers‽ 🤯 Well done.
Next upgrade maby an internal batterypack thanks to the space you gained from modernizing the power supply and a 386 dx 40? I also love to tinker with old laptops and hardware, my biggest project whas a custom games console i build into a wifi router :p and crazy to see that the internet is more usefull in dos than in windows! And you deserve so much more views and subscribers! You are a genius man really!
Thanks a lot for the comment, I appreciate it! Yes, it would definitely be possible to install a battery inside, there is plenty of space now. But the problem is, that accessing the power supply compartment requires literally a complete tear-down of the computer (LCD, keyboard, hinges, top cover, everything goes out). Batteries would certainly die after some time, and replacing them would be painful, and every time the laptop is dissassembled, it can also cause some wear on the plastic elements. But there is also a compartment designed for an additional modem in the bottom, which is accessible from the outside, and the battery would be replaceable. I can check if it would be possible to fit some cells with enough capacity in there.
@@adalbertfix Ow i didn't know it requires a complete teardown to get to that power supply, and if there is enough space in the that modem slot you could surely do it, and having it charge through your power supply would be easy enough if you use a powerbank pcb, you can put some apple like indicator somewhere where the other leds are for example, i love to see people tinker with old machines and make them do things that they were never designed to do :)
I’m loving the ingenuity about the NIC, mini router and wifi/SMB share option. You’ve absolutely gone all-out on this machine!
Ever thought about upgrading the CPU to a 386DX-40? It looks like you’d definitely be skilled enough for such tasks.
Truly inspiring! Thanks for that!
Thank you! 386DX wouldn't fit unfortunately, because it needs more pins (386SX that is currently here has half the bus width of DX). But there are special chips like Cyrix Cx486SLC, which can be used to replace 386SX with a slimmed-down 486. That would definitely make this machine much faster, and maybe it would have a chance of working, but since it would require desoldering the original CPU and replacing it with something else, I wonder if wouldn't that be sacrilegious :)
@@adalbertfix Its worth it, do it!
Awesome!
I loved this and especially when you started playing "Another world" it took me back to the days my brothers upgraded our bbc model b and Amiga
Awesome job with it!
Thank you!
I was fortunate enough to find this laptop in almost a mint working condition. Replaced caps in the LCD to get it working again (mine was broken too), the PSU wasn't leaky, but the RIFAs were all shot, so I removed them and then I stumbled across your Hackaday entry. Downloaded the gerbers, sent them to PCBWAY, built the PSU (omitted the expensive DC-DC converters, used cheaper alternatives) and printed the bracket for the DC barrel jack. Thank you for the writeup and the videos! If you ever get your hands on the T6400DXC I'd like to see what you can do with that one.
Oh, that's great that you were able fix your machine and gerber files worked fine! BTW what kind of issue did you have with the LCD? My screen was almost all white, with very faint image, and after some time also the inverter stopped working. Did replacing the caps helped with the faint image, or was there another issue? Did you replace caps in the LCD itself or the inverter board?
@@adalbertfix that was exactly my issue. Then I replaced two or three of "easily" accessible caps on the side of the LCD and then the image was readable but was in inverted colors. So I continued replacing all caps hoping it will solve the issue. And it indeed did. I replaced all caps with ceramics and tantalums so I don't have to deal with these problems 30 years from now *sarcasm*
@@adalbertfix And to the inverter board. Mine worked fine so I put it up for sale, because I wasn't feeling comfortable around it. I bought a cheap universal led backlight kit (controller included) and put that in. Led strips are held with the smallest zip ties and the controller board I insulated in kapton tape and wedged it between the screw post and the chassis on the left side where the inverter was positioned.
My very first laptop wasn't much younger than this. It was maybe a 95/96 machine or so that I got second hand in 99. SVGA TFT screen, P75 with 8mb ram which I upgraded from another similar laptop to P90, and bought 32MB of RAM for $800. Yes $800. But it made the machine useful. It had PCMCIA card slot which I populated with a combo modem/ethernet card. Also upgraded the 1GB hdd to two 2GB hdd's/ The second hdd was in a swappable bay that I also had a FDD for. Still that's nothing to what you've done with this. This job is next level :-)
Ожидал увидеть в галерее какое-нибудь фото ноутбука, которое можно поставить на рабочий стол. Жаль, но ничего не нашёл)
Amazing...
We need 4 hours and 52 minutes long video about this. 4:52 is not even enough to play some midi music from those speakers for us to experience it.
Just wow, very impressive. I have two T3200, and would really love to have that USB-Wifi ISA card that you made, you wouldnt happen to have another one for sale?
Incredible.
This is fantastic.
I want to see a sleeper laptop made inside one of these now.
This Laptop has the option for a Maths Co-Processor as well.
Beautiful.
Well done👍
Would love to see this with an internal CF - IDE or mSATA to IDE adapter… ❤… would also love to see it dual booting with ELKS embedded Linux, or Linux embedded for 386 and running X Windowing system. Does it have an FPU chip? Or did I misread the subtitles.
Also where are you in the world? Would you want to restore and upgrade my T1950CT with a 486 in a similar fashion, pay you to do that but you can also make a video? I have a monochrome (plasma???) NEC laptop with a 286 as well. Both need new caps, new batteries, repaired floppy drives.
I meant to do it and start a channel before becoming disabled.
Спасибо!
Hi Adalbert, I'm restoring a T6400DXC, it has the same screen. Could you tell me which DC/AC inverter you used for the new screens backlight CCFL?
I found these specs for the old screen backlight:
- Startup Voltage (at 25°C): Max 1100V
- Startup Voltage (at 0°C): 1100V
- Running Voltage (Typ.): 540 Vrms
- Running Current: Min 2.5mArms, Typ 3.7mArms, Max 4.5mArms
- Operating Frequency: Min 20kHz, Max 60kH
Will the old inverter work with your new screen?
Hi! i have one! its screen doesn't work, but the rest may work, and the power supply because it turns on the coolers... i live in argentina and i wonder if there is an international market for those spare parts... because i felt a kind of strange responsibility that prevented me from throwing away... you guys what would you do with these vintage resources? thanks!
А демонстрация будет? Без болтовни?
dear sir.
Did you know how to access the BIOS on this color version of the T3200 ?
Have tried already SHIFT-CTRL-F10 or DEL. 😕
BIOS can be invoked with a setup program from floppy disk, TESTCE3.EXE or TEST3.EXE
Can the cpu be upgarded with FPU model i.e 386DX?
Not 386DX, this laptop has 386SX and the pinout is incompatible. But it has a separate FPU installed right now in a dedicated socket (387SX). However it should be possible to upgrade the CPU to something like TI 486SXL, which uses the same 16-bit bus as 386SX. It would require de-soldering the CPU.
@@adalbertfix better install the FPU too, can run win95 if have FPU and enough memory, say 16MB
Why?
Hold on, you can run openwrt on ethernet card?
I'm not running it on ethernet card itself, I soldered a small wi-fi router (A5-V11) on top of the ethernet card and that router has OpenWRT. So this is a modified "hybrid" card now.
make it run quake
How good does Fortnite run on it?
I will need to find out!
@@adalbertfix Great channel BTW. I love all this retro stuff and you've got a new sub.
@@BENDER_TECH Thanks a lot!
Awesome!!!