Living in the 50's with those kinds of clothes, if only Gabrielle knew how much of an impact her clothes would still be even 60 - 70 years later her clothes are still very relevant and modern.
@@yasminx16 look it up! It's also very weird. Lagerfeld couldn't help but cast his protégé Baptist Giabiconi as the Emperor of China. You know, with a bit of make up to give him "Asian eyes"... 🙄
You know? In her later years, Coco Chanel had her wig sewn to her wide brimmed hat, so here, essentially, her character was enjoying a nice nap while wearing a wig which was sewn to a wide brimmed hat and high heals-- and a white Chanel suit and several strands of pearls, faux or not (?) --, so relaxing! (BTW, Wallis Simpson was conceivably not so relaxed in real life, however, as she was suffering bad bunions 24/7, while wearing high heals...)
Why I may just do it today after I take off my Jersey pajamas from other favorite designer a la Walmart. No heels though - these moccasins lined with rich Sherpa are staying on.
I enjoyed this "atmospheric" fantasie-vignette of an incident that probably never happened. Aside from Chanel's magnificent suit and the actress's insightful, subtly evovocative portrayal of the way Chanel must have comported herself -- a portrayal helped immensely by the actress'suncanny resemblance to Coco, herself --, I especially liked the MUSIC which managed to elegantly Gallic, poignant, sophisticated as only a true Parisienne could be, nostalgic and PERFECTLY attuned to the era evoked here. I enjoyed the little film, but then felt both sick at heart and sick to my stomach as I examined the comments which in the main are unbearably crude, boorish, needlessly snarky, and disturbiingly reflective of the coarse, spiteful, witless mentality that characterizes what society most regrttably has become today.
I'm not sure what to think from this very short vignette. MY understanding is that Coco was born extremely poor and grew up extremely poor and I gather was surrounded by nuns and hence her her liking of black-and-white & the black uniform of servanymts which transmorphed into " the little black dress". IN addition, I recall that she resided in France in a very famous hotel with a Nazi officer during the war at which time many French were dying and those belonging to the resistance were dying in spades while she lived quite well. Knowing this, I can't help think of this--her humble origins & her comportmant duribg the war--when I look at this very hard; very controlled; very disciplined and very full of herself woman. WE ALL KNOW WHERE SHE came from and WE ALL KNOW WHERE she ended up so I'm simply not impressed. Someone once offered to buy me a Chanel suit and I thought that could be fun but it wasn't really something that I was dying to have. IN retrospect, I really don't think I want one. I haven't read the comments that you referenced but I think that your comment was rather naive. It appears YOU DON'T KNOW HER origin or what she ended up doing during WWII. I'd recommend u study up on that and then see this vignette again and reflect upon this woman.
Suit, hat and shoes are perfect, the essence of French elegance. Of course, she would not remove her hat or shoes to receive a guest, she was Gabrielle Chanel and not any ordinary housewife. Moreover, she was a woman of the 19th century, and at that time, a hatless woman was either very poor or a prostitute. The "conversation" with Wallis Simpson has no interest in itself, the film is just an opportunity to show Coco's apartment as the public is not admitted to visit it, and to feel its atmosphere.
A peek at times gone by. Note the handkerchief tucked into Coco Chanel's sleeve. My great aunt and her friends did that as well. I enjoyed the film and thank you for posting.
Out of all the greats you could have chosen, you pick the two who would use their influence and power to have you killed and not feel one ounce of guilt Lol. You sure know how to pick them!
Two of the creepiest looking women. I've seen interviews with the duchess. She spoke with an ersatz English accent despite being born and raised in America and exiled from England after only living there a handful of years.
I don't think you understand that American accents are not how they are today remotely. We used to roll our rs in th 1910s and that barely stopped by the 1930s.
Basically, Chanel disapproved of almost every designer calling them impractical, she hated Schiaparelli and allegedly gossiped on Dior's New Look Designs saying that she didn't think them suitable for the modern woman, as she viewed Dior designs as restrictive with corsets and petticoats and viewed Schiaparelli with vain views as she was against the idea of her surrealist designs being used and classed as fashion.
@@1day2dayme well in Karl Largefeld's film "The Return" which showcases her return to the fashion world after WW2, in an interview after her 1958 collection she states that she hates short skirts and blue jeans so even for what was considered relaxing attire of the time she loathed contemporary fashions, she'd hate it, even more, today on how vulgar and style-less it is especially with everything being sexualised and shaped to fit the body like a second skin, especially for women. she may have liberated the corset but not the body from clothes
Look beyond the obvious and reall "see". The film was meant to show the frivolous pursuit of pleasure and quest for acceptance to offset the ennui of their everyday lives. Everything, anything, to fight the boredom, the endless dressing, parties, social climbing, etc. CoCo can't relax on a couch because she must be "perfect" at all times. She doesnt remove her hat, jacket or shoes because she must always be "on". Dressing to the nines, name dropping by Wallis, and shared useless tidbits are just niceties expected. The fact the Wallis pours the tea when it should have been her host, is an unacceptable faux pas. She should have asked first and tea is poured by the host or the host designate. Wallis' social status is offset by Coco, who hardly gives a damn about her but will make clothes for her. Why? Because Wallis had the perfect frame and bearing that displayed Coco's clothing to the fullest and she had plenty of exposure, though some was questionable. Both women are users but they need each other. Wallis wants social status and to have a bespoke wardrobe by Chanel (which she can ill afford and most likely be "gifts"). She disparages other fantastic designers such as Mainbocher and Shaperelli as not being, for her, the "thing to be seen in" but CoCo' s creations are. The wonderful aside to this is Coco doesn't design for just anyone. To have one of her couture pieces represent "arrival", though Wallis never quite gets that. Though successful in her own right, Coco's no fool. She knows her clothes would look marvelous on Wallis' thin frame and the exposure would be far and wide. Coco isn't afraid of censure for creating clothes for Wallis. She's too well established for that and Wallis' notorious past only adds to the mystique. But these little "games" must be played out. It was expected in their time. Nothing seems to happen in the film and that's just the point. Nothing worthwhile DID happen, at least on the surface. But the undertones and what was NOT said spoke volumes.
hummingnectarbird Excellent commentary and explanation! There is only so much dressing up in the finest of couture, imbibing the finest champaignes and wines; dining with and at the most selective and expensive fare, attending the most exclusive and inclusive social affairs, sharing the most distasteful and private gossip, residing in the most fabulously appointed mansions; and being catered to with every conceivable service of carte blanche known to mortal man wherever you travel! It can only satisfy for so long....because these things, although they do bring a modicum of temporary bliss......they do nothing for the mortal soul!
@e james: Interesting, for Edward was in dialogue with Hitler at the beginning of WW2, some time before Germany decided to bomb England. An admirer?? OK.
Appearances are so deceptive, and popular reputations even more so. I accidentally read a piece of writing by Wallis, not knowing the author. I was hugely impressed by the fine, intelligent judgement shown. In the same way, in Chanel's biography, I discovered that this famous woman was so troubled emotionally that she was eventually given to self-harm. Image is a strange thing.
For those who don't know, this is not the full film. When Chanel goes to take a nap, she has a lengthy dream about Shanghai and how Chinese influences could be included in her collections. And then she wakes up and realises it was just a dream. If you look at the end credits, you can see the name and cast of the missing scenes: "Chinese room, China in the 60s", "China night club dressing room, early 40s", "Shanghai Express, 30s", etc.
Quite confused about all negative comments here, Personally I see the most elegant form of communication between woman here... I hope one day I can communicate with a woman in such elegant way LOVE LOVE Chanel
The apartments over rue Cambon were merely used as a place for a break from work downstairs, she was at work, and would have kept her hat and shoes on, once at the Ritz apartment she'd have taken off the shoes. It is MEN who are obliged to remove their hats when entering a building, NOT WOMEN!!!
Kevin a smart joe about hats for women.. and then the tradition for wearing a hat for men these day i do not believe the young men know to take their hats off in doors. And young i m talking 40 years i v notice for years men have not taken their hats off but mist manners have gone to way side. Was it the hippy parents i d k some ppl do the opposite.
Kevin JEWELL Hi there Kevin, I understand your comment is from a couple of years ago and I concur. The ladies of that era were not required to move their hats as it wasn't the custom.. maybe the gloves? i am not sure. I always thought it was a connection with something in the Bible about headdress regarding the sexes. I am not sure what book or chapter it was written in.. however, I remember as a child it was deemed OK for a lady to wear a hat in church yet not a man. Maybe that custom spread to different arenas. xx
Typing up that comment only took 30 seconds. That absurd chola lip color was enough to justify a thumb down for this stupid vid. Back to the drawing board Mr. Lagerfield.
@@mrlopez-pz7pu nope...she or he watched it the whole time, and then who knows how long she or he took to type it. REally...me is correct, neither you or the OP are.
The country wanted those 2 far away from Europe. Bad news those 2 Walley Simpson and The firmer King Edward Vlll had to get them seay from Europe she was bad news and he too
What needs to be understood about this scene is that it is supposed. A scenario that might have occurred with Chanel and the Duchess. Lagerfeld purposely placed awkward pauses and harsh make up to create the fantasy.
@@stephaniestanley8041Karl always had this weird Germanic style. All his fashion shows were horribly Germanic. He just lacked style in the truest sense. There was always something wrong to me about his placement of bows or the cut or the length. What he had though was pre self belief because he was raised affluent and spoiled by his parents and so believed way too much in his own talent. That’s why he was always so jealous of the naturally talented YSL. He knew a Yves had that elegant touch. Karl was so pharaonic and Fascistic really. Quite Hitlerian in his approach. Giant Chanel bags and really bad kitschy staging. And yet dumb fashion people would fawn and rave and think it was all so fabulous. I always found it tacky back then and even his recent shows were always bad. His interpretation of Chanel was diabolical and anyone with taste knows that. Mademoiselle would’ve hated what he did to her Maison and name. Karl was a great example of what gargantuan self-belief and way too much money can do for someone with ambition and a huge ego.
The Duchess was never made an HRH so it is incorrect for her to be addressed as "son Altesse royale". This was a famous sore point for the Duke and Duchess so the error is all the more glaring.
What's to like?? Its a terrible attempt to a short movie; Boring, badly lit and acted, horrible make up (never in the 40's 50's you would see black lipstick on anyone, until punks in the 70's, and gothics 15 years later. Wallis would NEVER pour the tea herself, Chanel could have but would never either; Bad, bad, KL experience. He is so right to stick to what he does best : fashion...
@@kidnap2010he actually wasn’t very good at fashion either. What he did at Chanel was not chanel. It was kitsch and pastiche and just not good. Anyone who understands fashion knows that. His shows at Chanel were horrible overblown spectacles of kitsch and camp also. He had such a weird Germanic stilted sense of humour. To me, karl was more philosopher in the German tradition than designer. He would’ve made a great fashion journalist, yes - due to his knowledge of fashion history and design . But he was a shocking fashion designer and even more shocking director. These vignettes and movies were all diabolically bad. I also agree about the black lipstick, and just the whole style of it. It’s stilted and strange. There was also no narrative. No proper characterisation. His Wallis and coco are just made of straw and just stereotypes. Really silly. Belongs in a Sunday afternoon drag show, but Karl portrays it as high theatre or serious auteurship. It’s laughable that he takes it so seriously.
roccojoerg in the home she shared with the Duke, she WAS referred to as HRH, that was the RULE there. No doubt other people called her that as well. lt makes sense for a courtier, and certainly staff of a courtier to refer to her as "your royal highness."
@@miriamhavard7621 thank you for that interesting tidbit! However, a pet name at home, even if it is a "rule", is not the same as being granted a real title. Is Queen Latifa really a Queen? Is Lady Gaga really a Lady? I think not.
Everyone in their social circle referred to her as HRH though...it just wasn't legal in the UK but they lived in Paris...a republic and they made their own rules...clearly.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 As you say, even though she was refused that title, she continued to use that title in her private life. Then this film elegantly highlights that controversy.
Wally like the deep pockets of the king hiw do women like her trap these men. Her looks her life history she won in the end. I do not think he was a catch but that s my opinion
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Not really. I think that title would go to someone like Jackie Kennedy, Deeda Blair or even Vicomtesse Jacqueline Ribes of France. Wallis too was as flat as an ironing board.
I just ordered a piece from Lagerfeld so I feel justified in asking what in the hell is going on here? Don’t know how I got here, but stayed for the comments.
Right, she went to China either as a married woman, or after her first divorce, or her second divorce, to chase after some useful contact she had met, who could introduce her to royal society. It was very dangerous to travel at that time, but she was determined to make use of this contact, and she was willing to take any risk.
La duchesse de Windsor n'était pas une altesse Royale. Ce titre ne lui était pas accordé ni par le roi Georges VI ni par l'actuelle reine de Grande Bretagne Elisabeth II.
she wasn't, but she was still introduced as Altesse Royale in Paris society. it's well known she would go furious and take as a personal insult not to be introduced as such.
@@danielda4471also, the seamstresses at the Chanel ateliers would’ve addressed her as Altesse to appease her as she spent a lot of money at the rue cambon. So they did as they were told and played the sucking up game. It’s rather ironic because coco herself had a long running affair with the Duke of Westminster and so would’ve been in a similar position to Wallis. She could’ve technically become Gabrielle, Duchess of Westminster but was snubbed at the last minute and the duke married some aristocrat. Coco was lavishly gifted with jewels from the Duke. These tacky foreign women were always trying to sleep their way up the ladders of British high society, wrong by wrong.
J'ai pu voir Mademoiselle Chanel ainsi habillée, portant perles, chapeau, tailleur beige, vers 9 heures un matin, rue Cambon, sortant du Ritz. Jacques Chazot soutenait discrètement son bras. C'était peu de mois avant son décès. Même si j'avais eu mon appareil photo, je ne l'aurais pas photographiée. Mais la scène est restée imprimée dans ma mémoire et mon cœur. Admiration !
I wonder what the conversation about the tea bags was about. I thought something naughty and sexy, so much potential for such independent woman to laugh about instead of the plodding bit of film only illuminated by Chanel's pearls. The love story of Wallis Simpsons was bereft in the portrayal of the woman on the screen.
Allegedly I lived in Paris when this took place, although at the time I was even older than Coco. What I wonder though is simply, does the lady never remove her hat?
I found it intriguing.Miss Chanel's apartment and The Chanel suit,shoes should have been the same white as the suit though,still all fabulous.Something else, I thought Coco always wore her pearls a little longer and not so matchy.She asked for the scissors, and I thought she always wore those around your neck too,silly me
This video is a reflection of Lagerfeld's personality. He doesn't have one and therefore can't imagine how much personality and charisma they both had; for one of these women to have captivated a royal's heart, defy convention, and the other to endear women to want to be like her also simply by wanting to defy convention. He's portrayed them as hung up twots. I'm sure they were snotty nosed bitches. But he did not capture a restrained good humour and unlying joyfulness that both of these women were projecting to the world at the time, since ofcourse it was their innate personality that made them famous. Lagerfeld is a man afterall. What would he know of women's feelings and ambition?
They really arent women that should be on a pedestal anyway...one was a confirmed Nazi spy who should have been executed and the other likely had some Nazi sympathy.
Both of them nazi, one of them a theve, I should call her "professional theve" but that's to much title. Arrogant as much they can be... Not a good resume to admire!!
How does "Wallis"(in her non-Chanel" little black dress"- with pearls)) "disappear" the Paris Match Magazine with the cover photo of her nemesis Queen Elizabeth? Its not her home? Did she throw it across the room, or sit on it? Also, loved the weird business with the tea bags, the excruciating "naughty sophisticated woman small talk" about "les hommes" , and the last scene where it appears that "Chanel" is thinking: "What the H---L was that all about?"(in French, of course).I have no idea what this excerpt of the film was about, horrible makeup, but it was fun to watch.
It was such an unnecessary and bizarre reference and brought nothing to the vignette. Karl had way too much artistic licence here and needed to be reigned in. He was a really appallingly bad director: stilted, awkward, long gaps of nothing, bad acting, strange vampire make up, Chanel sleeping in full Chanel drag on her chaise longue. All of it just so so bad. The only people who like it are mindless fashionistas with no clue about fashion or cultural history. It’s shockingly amateur.
A duchess in the British royal family would be a HRH technically actually, especially as a Duchess of Windsor, as she married a king. The problem was that she was stripped of the title as she was a divorcee and divorcees were not recognised back then at court. So, what I think is happening here is that the French couture premiers - who didn’t really understand British peerage, are saying “Altesse” in order to appease their client - they’re in the business of kissing clients’ feet for money. That’s what that was about. But Wallis was not an “Altesse”. The way Megan is no longer an “Altesse.” Both became mere duchess’s after betraying the royal family. Wallis should have rejected the king’s proposal but she didn’t. She wasn’t even in love with him but felt pressured to marry because he went and abdicated for her. He was way too clingy and too obsessed with her and to someone like her that would’ve felt cringey and sickening. Yet she had to go through with it. It was too late. Megan on the other hand was a bit dumb. She didn’t know how to play the Windsors at their own game and undid herself by going public with Oprah and all the pointless whingeing. These women were not smart. A smart woman would’ve pretended to go along with the protocols and styles of the family and then you would win them all over and get your own way. Like Catherine did and has done. You cannot marry into a family like that and expect to be top dog. It requires playing fake humility until you work your way into the public affections and the affections of a Whole nation. To do that unfortunately requires you to submit your ego, and to essentially SHUT THE F UP!
I love coco channel. I own her perfume, along with some Dior and I also own some solve and gabbana perfume as well. I love my collection. I love channel. FRENCH PERFUME IS THE BEST PEERFUME EVER.
@@blippypippy8167true. Because she mixed in high society circles and just being married to the ex King would’ve taken on his speech patterns also. So a stilted and strangely accented transatlantic accent would be about right for her.
Living in the 50's with those kinds of clothes, if only Gabrielle knew how much of an impact her clothes would still be even 60 - 70 years later her clothes are still very relevant and modern.
ruzzell907 Not to mention her much coveted/sought after iconic Double CC branded sunglasses!
Thanks simply to the skill and dedication of their “hired gun” Karl Lagerfeld.
This is the outcome when everyone is scared to say 'No'!
What did I just see??? Bad acting, pointless film, bad lipstick and she didn't even drink her tea before she left. Weird.
Two rich, decadent cadavers.
Yes, it's horrible.
It's just the beginning and end of the movie. In the full version, when she falls asleep, she has a dream that takes her to China.
@@princevesperal 😂😂 are you serious!? 😂😂
@@yasminx16 look it up! It's also very weird. Lagerfeld couldn't help but cast his protégé Baptist Giabiconi as the Emperor of China. You know, with a bit of make up to give him "Asian eyes"... 🙄
who doesn't like a nice nap while wearing a wide brimed hat and high heals , so relaxing!
You know? In her later years, Coco Chanel had her wig sewn to her wide brimmed hat, so here, essentially, her character was enjoying a nice nap while wearing a wig which was sewn to a wide brimmed hat and high heals-- and a white Chanel suit and several strands of pearls, faux or not (?) --, so relaxing! (BTW, Wallis Simpson was conceivably not so relaxed in real life, however, as she was suffering bad bunions 24/7, while wearing high heals...)
She needed to heal the pain of being in her heels all day.
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Removing a hat in these days was not a simple process. And you wore the hat as you would your hair for your visit.
Why I may just do it today after I take off my Jersey pajamas from other favorite designer a la Walmart. No heels though - these moccasins lined with rich Sherpa are staying on.
Simpson was never a beauty, but here, Lagerfeld has portrayed her as an absolute monster!
He's showing what she was like inside (not that I ever knew her, but she seems to have been . . . not very admirable.)
i legit Laughed Out Loud at the unexpected turn of this comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
because she was a monstre
The black lipstick makes no sense....
She was beautiful. The British media up to their lying antics.
Sleeping in hat, acting like a robot... didn’t picture Coco as lifeless person and Duchess look was taken from Cruella character at best
I enjoyed this "atmospheric" fantasie-vignette of an incident that probably never happened. Aside from Chanel's magnificent suit and the actress's insightful, subtly evovocative portrayal of the way Chanel must have comported herself -- a portrayal helped immensely by the actress'suncanny resemblance to Coco, herself --, I especially liked the MUSIC which managed to elegantly Gallic, poignant, sophisticated as only a true Parisienne could be, nostalgic and PERFECTLY attuned to the era evoked here. I enjoyed the little film, but then felt both sick at heart and sick to my stomach as I examined the comments which in the main are unbearably crude, boorish, needlessly snarky, and disturbiingly reflective of the coarse, spiteful, witless mentality that characterizes what society most regrttably has become today.
Franco Aragosta agree.
Not sure if Wallis and Coco were ever really close at all since Wallis LOVED Schiaparelli and Madame Chanel hated Elsa...
“what society has become today” eeerrrrr society has always been like that.
I'm not sure what to think from this very short vignette. MY understanding is that Coco was born extremely poor and grew up extremely poor and I gather was surrounded by nuns and hence her her liking of black-and-white & the black uniform of servanymts which transmorphed into " the little black dress". IN addition, I recall that she resided in France in a very famous hotel with a Nazi officer during the war at which time many French were dying and those belonging to the resistance were dying in spades while she lived quite well. Knowing this, I can't help think of this--her humble origins & her comportmant duribg the war--when I look at this very hard; very controlled; very disciplined and very full of herself woman. WE ALL KNOW WHERE SHE came from and WE ALL KNOW WHERE she ended up so I'm simply not impressed. Someone once offered to buy me a Chanel suit and I thought that could be fun but it wasn't really something that I was dying to have.
IN retrospect, I really don't think I want one. I haven't read the comments that you referenced but I think that your comment was rather naive. It appears YOU DON'T KNOW HER origin or what she ended up doing during WWII. I'd recommend u study up on that and then see this vignette again and reflect upon this woman.
Well said
This was a scene from The Devil Wears Chanel.
What?
good one!
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Suit, hat and shoes are perfect, the essence of French elegance. Of course, she would not remove her hat or shoes to receive a guest, she was Gabrielle Chanel and not any ordinary housewife. Moreover, she was a woman of the 19th century, and at that time, a hatless woman was either very poor or a prostitute. The "conversation" with Wallis Simpson has no interest in itself, the film is just an opportunity to show Coco's apartment as the public is not admitted to visit it, and to feel its atmosphere.
A peek at times gone by. Note the handkerchief tucked into Coco Chanel's sleeve. My great aunt and her friends did that as well. I enjoyed the film and thank you for posting.
kary ann Fontaine Lol....mine did too....and I do it myself....all the time!
at one time, certainly used as a cum rag for a nazi officer.
Could not hear
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 OMG I actually guffawed at that one! You're spot on!
@@charwest9449 lol i hate gabrielle chanel
These comments have restored my faith in humanity… Absolutely hilarious.
I observed how human interaction can turned into a cat fight🤣
@@emeraldrose4848 🤓
I would have loved to have met Wallis Simpson and Chanel, that time period in our lives was fascinating to me
They were Nazis
Out of all the greats you could have chosen, you pick the two who would use their influence and power to have you killed and not feel one ounce of guilt Lol. You sure know how to pick them!
2 Bitches lol
The notion that Wallis Simpson Windsor and the Duke were Nazi sympathizers is not true. As the media does, today, they twisted snd lied
@@melbabowen4389 explain please.
Well, at least we know there won't be a part 2...
Thanks for your comment , the best, this in deed is the most stupid video, no point at all.
grateful for that
Your comment was spot on. I died laughing.
Two of the creepiest looking women. I've seen interviews with the duchess. She spoke with an ersatz English accent despite being born and raised in America and exiled from England after only living there a handful of years.
I don't think you understand that American accents are not how they are today remotely. We used to roll our rs in th 1910s and that barely stopped by the 1930s.
Chanel was a grande horizontale when she was young. She was kept the duke of Westminster, among others.
She would not have made it without the finances of all those men. That’s just a fact.
Yes that is why they are giggling at the tea bag, Karl told me…
A delightful fantasy. Love Wallis' dress.
Basically, Chanel disapproved of almost every designer calling them impractical, she hated Schiaparelli and allegedly gossiped on Dior's New Look Designs saying that she didn't think them suitable for the modern woman, as she viewed Dior designs as restrictive with corsets and petticoats and viewed Schiaparelli with vain views as she was against the idea of her surrealist designs being used and classed as fashion.
However, she did have great respect for Balenciaga.
she wouldn't have any for today's state of the house. Nor would Balenciaga himself :(.@@modfus
How I wish she could time travel to the contemporary times and it would be a treat to hear what she gets to say about today's fashion world...
@@1day2dayme well in Karl Largefeld's film "The Return" which showcases her return to the fashion world after WW2, in an interview after her 1958 collection she states that she hates short skirts and blue jeans so even for what was considered relaxing attire of the time she loathed contemporary fashions, she'd hate it, even more, today on how vulgar and style-less it is especially with everything being sexualised and shaped to fit the body like a second skin, especially for women. she may have liberated the corset but not the body from clothes
@@1day2dayme" fashion world "...
Look beyond the obvious and reall "see". The film was meant to show the frivolous pursuit of pleasure and quest for acceptance to offset the ennui of their everyday lives. Everything, anything, to fight the boredom, the endless dressing, parties, social climbing, etc. CoCo can't relax on a couch because she must be "perfect" at all times. She doesnt remove her hat, jacket or shoes because she must always be "on". Dressing to the nines, name dropping by Wallis, and shared useless tidbits are just niceties expected. The fact the Wallis pours the tea when it should have been her host, is an unacceptable faux pas. She should have asked first and tea is poured by the host or the host designate. Wallis' social status is offset by Coco, who hardly gives a damn about her but will make clothes for her. Why? Because Wallis had the perfect frame and bearing that displayed Coco's clothing to the fullest and she had plenty of exposure, though some was questionable. Both women are users but they need each other. Wallis wants social status and to have a bespoke wardrobe by Chanel (which she can ill afford and most likely be "gifts"). She disparages other fantastic designers such as Mainbocher and Shaperelli as not being, for her, the "thing to be seen in" but CoCo' s creations are. The wonderful aside to this is Coco doesn't design for just anyone. To have one of her couture pieces represent "arrival", though Wallis never quite gets that. Though successful in her own right, Coco's no fool. She knows her clothes would look marvelous on Wallis' thin frame and the exposure would be far and wide. Coco isn't afraid of censure for creating clothes for Wallis. She's too well established for that and Wallis' notorious past only adds to the mystique. But these little "games" must be played out. It was expected in their time. Nothing seems to happen in the film and that's just the point. Nothing worthwhile DID happen, at least on the surface. But the undertones and what was NOT said spoke volumes.
hummingnectarbird Excellent commentary and explanation! There is only so much dressing up in the finest of couture, imbibing the finest champaignes and wines; dining with and at the most selective and expensive fare, attending the most exclusive and inclusive social affairs, sharing the most distasteful and private gossip, residing in the most fabulously appointed mansions; and being catered to with every conceivable service of carte blanche known to mortal man wherever you travel! It can only satisfy for so long....because these things, although they do bring a modicum of temporary bliss......they do nothing for the mortal soul!
Its all so much rubbish
I don't think Wallis poured tea. I think she just took the tea bags out and told a dirty sex joke about her time in Shanghai.
@e james: Interesting, for Edward was in dialogue with Hitler at the beginning of WW2, some time before Germany decided to bomb England. An admirer?? OK.
@e james : Would you have felt that way if it had been your family that was bombed?
Appearances are so deceptive, and popular reputations even more so. I accidentally read a piece of writing by Wallis, not knowing the author. I was hugely impressed by the fine, intelligent judgement shown. In the same way, in Chanel's biography, I discovered that this famous woman was so troubled emotionally that she was eventually given to self-harm. Image is a strange thing.
For those who don't know, this is not the full film. When Chanel goes to take a nap, she has a lengthy dream about Shanghai and how Chinese influences could be included in her collections. And then she wakes up and realises it was just a dream. If you look at the end credits, you can see the name and cast of the missing scenes: "Chinese room, China in the 60s", "China night club dressing room, early 40s", "Shanghai Express, 30s", etc.
Lagerfeld as strange as ever.
Quite confused about all negative comments here,
Personally I see the most elegant form of communication between woman here...
I hope one day I can communicate with a woman in such elegant way
LOVE LOVE Chanel
fakeness and surface level bullshit isn't 'elegant'
Communicate about what ? The set of a shoulder seam ? Is that the height of your ambition ?
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 and brutal honesty is vulgar dear
@@Roheryn100 the gesture talk a lot here, pay more attention dear
@@Rain-tg2ji The Emperor has no clothes on.
Do carry on with your sycophantic worship.
As if Coco would slouch around the residence in a hat and power suit without removing the swiss shoes.
Quelle erreur.
The apartments over rue Cambon were merely used as a place for a break from work downstairs, she was at work, and would have kept her hat and shoes on, once at the Ritz apartment she'd have taken off the shoes. It is MEN who are obliged to remove their hats when entering a building, NOT WOMEN!!!
She would have been giving a nazi officer a blowie on her knees, perhaps resting on a tweed pillow. use your faux outrage on people who matter.
Kevin a smart joe about hats for women.. and then the tradition for wearing a hat for men these day i do not believe the young men know to take their hats off in doors. And young i m talking 40 years i v notice for years men have not taken their hats off but mist manners have gone to way side. Was it the hippy parents i d k some ppl do the opposite.
Kevin JEWELL Hi there Kevin, I understand your comment is from a couple of years ago and I concur. The ladies of that era were not required to move their hats as it wasn't the custom.. maybe the gloves? i am not sure. I always thought it was a connection with something in the Bible about headdress regarding the sexes. I am not sure what book or chapter it was written in.. however, I remember as a child it was deemed OK for a lady to wear a hat in church yet not a man. Maybe that custom spread to different arenas. xx
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Right you are! I laughed out loud when I read your comment!
Not sure what the point in this was, but all I saw was Chanel not the least bit impressed by Wallis and Wallis being quite rude to Chanel.
Jody flanagan which is why she'd dubbed her the guest from hell
Chanelle knew if Walley wor her creations be good for business
Back in the day Chanel was a High End Dressmaker. Wallace would have seen her as "Subservient".
@@douglaslarue4264 true. And Chanel would have seen Wallis as "gauche", but DELICIOUSLY RICH.
Felt empty and lonely
I've admired the two deer decorations in pictures of Coco's appartment. It was cool to see them in film.
well thats 5:44 of my life i will never get back
Hilarious ...i could' .nt have put it better my self ...what a crock !!!
Plus whatever took you to write that instead of moving on (with your life).
Typing up that comment only took 30 seconds. That absurd chola lip color was enough to justify a thumb down for this stupid vid. Back to the drawing board Mr. Lagerfield.
@@mrlopez-pz7pu nope...she or he watched it the whole time, and then who knows how long she or he took to type it. REally...me is correct, neither you or the OP are.
The country wanted those 2 far away from Europe. Bad news those 2 Walley Simpson and The firmer King Edward Vlll had to get them seay from Europe she was bad news and he too
Chanel is speaking with an American English mid-Western dialect??? SMH!
Yeah...... that was weird. 🙄😒😕
I love the shoes
What needs to be understood about this scene is that it is supposed. A scenario that might have occurred with Chanel and the Duchess. Lagerfeld purposely placed awkward pauses and harsh make up to create the fantasy.
Yeah, but the result is disastrously dilettante.
Yes, exactly. He is portraying their ghastliness with surprising candor.
@@MsCValentinerand disastrously bad! All his vignette movies were appallingly directed, shot and made. Just cringey.
@@stephaniestanley8041Karl always had this weird Germanic style. All his fashion shows were horribly Germanic. He just lacked style in the truest sense. There was always something wrong to me about his placement of bows or the cut or the length. What he had though was pre self belief because he was raised affluent and spoiled by his parents and so believed way too much in his own talent. That’s why he was always so jealous of the naturally talented YSL. He knew a Yves had that elegant touch. Karl was so pharaonic and Fascistic really. Quite Hitlerian in his approach. Giant Chanel bags and really bad kitschy staging. And yet dumb fashion people would fawn and rave and think it was all so fabulous. I always found it tacky back then and even his recent shows were always bad. His interpretation of Chanel was diabolical and anyone with taste knows that. Mademoiselle would’ve hated what he did to her Maison and name. Karl was a great example of what gargantuan self-belief and way too much money can do for someone with ambition and a huge ego.
@lapislazuli7876 AMEN. .......🙏❣️👍
The Duchess was never made an HRH so it is incorrect for her to be addressed as "son Altesse royale". This was a famous sore point for the Duke and Duchess so the error is all the more glaring.
Officially, yes, but suck-ups may have still referred to her that way in private.
She was addressed that way everywhere really outside of Britain...socially she was pretty much always referred to by it.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 True!
@@01denese True!
That's the bad thing bout social media: erroneous statements. She 'was' referred to as HRH 'outside' The Firm.
inspirations for many ladies
I want CoCo's hat and shoes!! fabulous!
I love it. The sets, clothes, and make up. Short, choppy, and mindless behavior... Karl's intention.
What's to like?? Its a terrible attempt to a short movie; Boring, badly lit and acted, horrible make up (never in the 40's 50's you would see black lipstick on anyone, until punks in the 70's, and gothics 15 years later. Wallis would NEVER pour the tea herself, Chanel could have but would never either; Bad, bad, KL experience. He is so right to stick to what he does best : fashion...
@@kidnap2010 very good points.
@@kidnap2010 Agreed. Very amateurish.
You crazy omg who the hell wants to see black lips?
Turrrrible‼️
@@kidnap2010he actually wasn’t very good at fashion either. What he did at Chanel was not chanel. It was kitsch and pastiche and just not good. Anyone who understands fashion knows that. His shows at Chanel were horrible overblown spectacles of kitsch and camp also. He had such a weird Germanic stilted sense of humour. To me, karl was more philosopher in the German tradition than designer. He would’ve made a great fashion journalist, yes - due to his knowledge of fashion history and design . But he was a shocking fashion designer and even more shocking director. These vignettes and movies were all diabolically bad. I also agree about the black lipstick, and just the whole style of it. It’s stilted and strange. There was also no narrative. No proper characterisation. His Wallis and coco are just made of straw and just stereotypes. Really silly. Belongs in a Sunday afternoon drag show, but Karl portrays it as high theatre or serious auteurship. It’s laughable that he takes it so seriously.
I can see how these two would have been best friends...
I have been in that apartment , very nice !!
The Duchess was never granted the title "Altesse Royale" (Royal Highness)! She was "just" the Duchess of Windsor.
roccojoerg in the home she shared with the Duke, she WAS referred to as HRH, that was the RULE there.
No doubt other people called her that as well. lt makes sense for a courtier, and certainly staff of a courtier to refer to her as "your royal highness."
@@miriamhavard7621 thank you for that interesting tidbit! However, a pet name at home, even if it is a "rule", is not the same as being granted a real title. Is Queen Latifa really a Queen? Is Lady Gaga really a Lady? I think not.
Everyone in their social circle referred to her as HRH though...it just wasn't legal in the UK but they lived in Paris...a republic and they made their own rules...clearly.
@@charwest9449 Well, she was entitled to that style. It wasn't just a pet named, she was refused a title/style that she was entitled to.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 As you say, even though she was refused that title, she continued to use that title in her private life. Then this film elegantly highlights that controversy.
Karl...dude. Stick with designing frocks and fanning yourself.
Fantastique Coco!!!!!
Two brilliant women: One built an empire and one threatened to destroy it. Both perfect socialites and this is the dialogue they have? What?
Well said ...
@@johndean3930 well said!!
Wally like the deep pockets of the king hiw do women like her trap these men. Her looks her life history she won in the end. I do not think he was a catch but that s my opinion
John Dean stfu
the thing they most shared was their love of Nazis; you'd think they would have spoken of that.
A lot of us prefer to believe what we think,than the truth about anything.
With a good portion of humour, and 1000% autobiographic. One will understand if you have read Mademoiselle by Rhonda K. Garelick.
The king’s wife and the queen of fashion!
Well, Wallis may actually take both of those titles. Shes often called the best dressed woman of all time...
She was NEVER his wife while he was king. So, she was always an honorary duchess -- like Meghan Markle.
@@mylesgarcia4625 meghan markle has the style of HRH shes a royal duchess.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Do you even understand basic English? I NEVER said MM didn't have any style of whomever. . .
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Not really. I think that title would go to someone like Jackie Kennedy, Deeda Blair or even Vicomtesse Jacqueline Ribes of France. Wallis too was as flat as an ironing board.
I just ordered a piece from Lagerfeld so I feel justified in asking what in the hell is going on here? Don’t know how I got here, but stayed for the comments.
KARL WAS A REAL KING-EXCELLENT!
Like something out of Addams Family ....
Only people missing in the circus are Big Edie and Lil Edie.
Love the mademoiselle channel ❤️
Restless, uncomfortable, alone and bored. So much and yet never enough. Something missing and could not find it?
American French Horror Story: Chanel Coven
Can't stop laughing😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Wow, this is so nice Karl was legendary! And Chanel is and always be #1.
I am just gonna pretend I didn't watch this.
Chercher encore…
Wallis went to China when she was married and she was hardly a child at 22. Also, she was never given a royal title.
Emma J. ...When you are like 80 years old, 22 must feel like when you were a child
Right, she went to China either as a married woman, or after her first divorce, or her second divorce, to chase after some useful contact she had met, who could introduce her to royal society. It was very dangerous to travel at that time, but she was determined to make use of this contact, and she was willing to take any risk.
Lagerfeld really missed the mark with this one...
The point is they were both a pair of hypicritcal bitches.
Amanda Harlech as Wallis Simpson! She's such a good sport.
Unfortunately the coco mademoiselle perfume wasn't created by her but still has her style
'Wallis' is lookin a lil Goth.
MsMcmoe interesting concept.
She was the greatest woman of all time in her flied of design of fashion designers 👩🎨 I wish I was born then to wear here close then
What a load of pretentious and boring tosh.
I have a Barbie Doll wearing THAT Chanel suit ! Think it's called Tokyo spring collection.
La duchesse de Windsor n'était pas une altesse Royale. Ce titre ne lui était pas accordé ni par le roi Georges VI ni par l'actuelle reine de Grande Bretagne Elisabeth II.
she wasn't, but she was still introduced as Altesse Royale in Paris society. it's well known she would go furious and take as a personal insult not to be introduced as such.
@@danielda4471also, the seamstresses at the Chanel ateliers would’ve addressed her as Altesse to appease her as she spent a lot of money at the rue cambon. So they did as they were told and played the sucking up game. It’s rather ironic because coco herself had a long running affair with the Duke of Westminster and so would’ve been in a similar position to Wallis. She could’ve technically become Gabrielle, Duchess of Westminster but was snubbed at the last minute and the duke married some aristocrat. Coco was lavishly gifted with jewels from the Duke. These tacky foreign women were always trying to sleep their way up the ladders of British high society, wrong by wrong.
Not invite de merde? they say invite de MARQUE. Loved this. Intimate, lonely Chanel.
J'ai pu voir Mademoiselle Chanel ainsi habillée, portant perles, chapeau, tailleur beige, vers 9 heures un matin, rue Cambon, sortant du Ritz.
Jacques Chazot soutenait discrètement son bras.
C'était peu de mois avant son décès.
Même si j'avais eu mon appareil photo, je ne l'aurais pas photographiée.
Mais la scène est restée imprimée dans ma mémoire et mon cœur. Admiration !
Bardzo Ci zazdroszczę...!!!!!!!!!!
What odious creatures they are...
Perfect description .
They didn't care. They were rich and powerful and "everyone" wanted to be them.
@Tilly Divine - Well, a couple of old horse faces for sure.
What in the world is this? Who cares? Why did I watch this ....?
Rosita A. Huff yes you’re right ! But is art , picture & photograph art ! Also we can see I’m especial books ! Thanks Ms Rosita A . Huff
It is history interesting i knew this about Simpson and firmer King Edward Vlll
I wonder what the conversation about the tea bags was about. I thought something naughty and sexy, so much potential for such independent woman to laugh about instead of the plodding bit of film only illuminated by Chanel's pearls. The love story of Wallis Simpsons was bereft in the portrayal of the woman on the screen.
Coco Chanel the woman that revolucionáis the fashion industry with elegance and unique style.
The Dutchess of Windsor would never have worn that corpselike lipstick!
I think she would. After all she was a walking skeleton!,,
Allegedly I lived in Paris when this took place, although at the time I was even older than Coco. What I wonder though is simply, does the lady never remove her hat?
I found it intriguing.Miss Chanel's apartment and The Chanel suit,shoes should have been the same white as the suit though,still all fabulous.Something else, I thought Coco always wore her pearls a little longer and not so matchy.She asked for the scissors, and I thought she always wore those around your neck too,silly me
Let's not forget about Chanel's non-stop chain-smoking. Her clothes and apartment had to have reeked of stale tobacco.
@@marquamfurniture I’ve read they reek of Chanel No5! She used it as a room freshener!
This video is a reflection of Lagerfeld's personality. He doesn't have one and therefore can't imagine how much personality and charisma they both had; for one of these women to have captivated a royal's heart, defy convention, and the other to endear women to want to be like her also simply by wanting to defy convention. He's portrayed them as hung up twots. I'm sure they were snotty nosed bitches. But he did not capture a restrained good humour and unlying joyfulness that both of these women were projecting to the world at the time, since ofcourse it was their innate personality that made them famous. Lagerfeld is a man afterall. What would he know of women's feelings and ambition?
They really arent women that should be on a pedestal anyway...one was a confirmed Nazi spy who should have been executed and the other likely had some Nazi sympathy.
Both of them nazi, one of them a theve, I should call her "professional theve" but that's to much title. Arrogant as much they can be... Not a good resume to admire!!
Well, that was very odd
How does "Wallis"(in her non-Chanel" little black dress"- with pearls)) "disappear" the Paris Match Magazine with the cover photo of her nemesis Queen Elizabeth? Its not her home? Did she throw it across the room, or sit on it? Also, loved the weird business with the tea bags, the excruciating "naughty sophisticated woman small talk" about "les hommes" , and the last scene where it appears that "Chanel" is thinking: "What the H---L was that all about?"(in French, of course).I have no idea what this excerpt of the film was about, horrible makeup, but it was fun to watch.
I don’t believe there were any tea bags in Wallis’ era.
@@annrhodes3544😂
Sorry,but I dn't believe that even Coco sat around alone in her salon with pearls and a hat.Ridiculous,even back then.
So cringe.
Oh my goodness, this is just so creepy!
Merci Karl de m'avoir expliqué les tea bags.....
It was such an unnecessary and bizarre reference and brought nothing to the vignette. Karl had way too much artistic licence here and needed to be reigned in. He was a really appallingly bad director: stilted, awkward, long gaps of nothing, bad acting, strange vampire make up, Chanel sleeping in full Chanel drag on her chaise longue. All of it just so so bad. The only people who like it are mindless fashionistas with no clue about fashion or cultural history. It’s shockingly amateur.
i love how wallis want's tea , gets it ready and storms of to see the duke lol.... Ohh Karl ohh Karl
That was very interesting.I enjoyed it.
Love the lipstick. The art of conversation. He's capturing her essence.
this mini short film is superb and classy- love it.
Are you sure it was Wallis? I think it was Frida Kahlo. Really bad video, and the dialogue...
Alex Guerriero No! That was Hillary Goddamn Clinton!!
No... Miss Frida would have spoken Mexican, whereas Miss Wallis here spoke English. This video is very deep...
Frida Kahlo died in 1954. Coco Chanel in 1971. Neither woman would have been in the same country or culture.
COCO CHANEL A SUPER CREATIVE WOMAN WHO LIVED AS FREE AND FEMININE LIKE THE CAN-CAN DANCERS, WHICH I TALK ABOUT IN A VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL.
Coco amazes me.
She's an icon in woman's fashion.
As for this sitcom as in all its trash..
Perhaps it was meant to be.
Who did the makeup? Dracula?
Dreadful women playing dreadful women - perfectly awful. Thanks “Karl”!
Legs to die for!
Where the acting and script cannot get worse!!
What do you get when you put a Nazi appeaser & an abwehr agent in the same skit?
Poor reflection on Karl Lagerfield’s view of powerful women and especially Chanel.
Oh dear god the make up 😨
This is ridiculous. Wallis Simpson was not a HRH, she was a duchess, so the right call would be ur grace.
A duchess in the British royal family would be a HRH technically actually, especially as a Duchess of Windsor, as she married a king. The problem was that she was stripped of the title as she was a divorcee and divorcees were not recognised back then at court. So, what I think is happening here is that the French couture premiers - who didn’t really understand British peerage, are saying “Altesse” in order to appease their client - they’re in the business of kissing clients’ feet for money. That’s what that was about. But Wallis was not an “Altesse”. The way Megan is no longer an “Altesse.” Both became mere duchess’s after betraying the royal family. Wallis should have rejected the king’s proposal but she didn’t. She wasn’t even in love with him but felt pressured to marry because he went and abdicated for her. He was way too clingy and too obsessed with her and to someone like her that would’ve felt cringey and sickening. Yet she had to go through with it. It was too late. Megan on the other hand was a bit dumb. She didn’t know how to play the Windsors at their own game and undid herself by going public with Oprah and all the pointless whingeing. These women were not smart. A smart woman would’ve pretended to go along with the protocols and styles of the family and then you would win them all over and get your own way. Like Catherine did and has done. You cannot marry into a family like that and expect to be top dog. It requires playing fake humility until you work your way into the public affections and the affections of a Whole nation. To do that unfortunately requires you to submit your ego, and to essentially SHUT THE F UP!
As pretentious and boring as Lagerfeld himself.
both of them crazy soules
finally someone calls him boring!!I thought im the only one thinking that!!1
I love coco channel. I own her perfume, along with some Dior and I also own some solve and gabbana perfume as well. I love my collection. I love channel. FRENCH PERFUME IS THE BEST PEERFUME EVER.
Me too. I will wear nothing but Chanel No 5 perfume.
Well she was a nazi spy, so know where your 'love' is going.
You could at least learn how to spell "CHANEL"
She was despicable!! A theve, a nazi, arrogant... An the list continues. Make some research before having your personal hero.
Wallis was a Baltimore Maryland woman without a British accent
She had a Transatlantic accent. It's British-FLAVORED.
@@blippypippy8167true. Because she mixed in high society circles and just being married to the ex King would’ve taken on his speech patterns also. So a stilted and strangely accented transatlantic accent would be about right for her.
The only good thing about this film is that it was over after 7:58 !,! Time poorly wasted and reflective of The pompous Lagerfeld himself!!
It's lonely at the top and what's with the gothic lips???
Grace Davis-Harpold but what did those teabags remind you of 😼😹
Ben Wa ⚾️ 🏀
Dreadful. I was waiting for the tea to be poisoned and Coco drinks it.
What awful people.
Absolutely correct.
ok.
Le détail étrange des sachets de thé ? Cher Karl m’a répondu personnellement pour me l’expliquer, j’ai sa lettre et en sourie encore….
Oui son clin d’œil “coquin” est incompris, il m’a expliqué…
Asmr for me