Are All Guitar Tuners The Same?
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I'm pretty amazed I just watched 20 mins of guitar tuning...
Like some local gigs I have been to.
@@celticbattlepantsLocal gigs where a guy has just bought his first Floyd Rose.....
/wrists
I'm used to 20 minutes tuning my damn cheap guitar 🙄
@@derpimusmaximus8815 haha yes! And all the gain, and none of the mids
@wahmsi I would...but it's not in tune ;)
For the first time ever, I can actually play everything Pete plays in the video.
I hope they put out a tab for it......
Hahaha.
HAHAHAHHAHA. I can relate!
Underrated
😂😂👌🏼
Everytime I tune my guitars my wife says 'you always play the same song'
Ha...! That made me chuckle, good one...
Ahaha true story
Vitor Isaia My girlfriend says the same thing!! 😂
Why do you always play "Nothing Else Matters"?
@@eriknarez524 HAHAHA
This reminds me of the old joke..........."A man with one watch always knows what time it is; a man with two is never sure"
lol brilliant
😂
It's a fact that if we tune so the E chord sounds perfect, the G chord does not and so on. That's why digital tuners are a good idea for most situations. It's because equal temperament (what tuners use) is based on dividing octaves into 12 equal steps, whereas our ears prefer the higher pitched strings to coincide with the harmonic overtones of the lower strings. And natural harmonics and overtones are close to but not exactly the same as, notes tuned to the nearest semitone.
Needs more upvotes! Wish it was mentioned here. Paul Davids did a great video on that subject
absolutely true,
It's that bloody B-string, which has to be somewhat sharp in relation to the 4 lower strings in order to modulate key. You can mitigate the open-G going sharp from fretting at fret1 with a zero-fret in place of a nut, but the major 3rd of the sharp B-string will still rear it's equal-tempered head. The stridency (sharpness) of the minor 3rd vs Just Intonation gives a guitar that ambiguity between major and minor that it exploits better than anything else; most easily heard in blues leads.
Was about to comment this, but here it is. Glad the internet has some people that know about tuning
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Top tip for tuning with pedal tuners. Use the neck pickup and roll the tone off. The signal will have less harmonics and you can tune more quickly. Don't forget to turn the tone up afterwards!
Steve Preston my guitar doesn’t have a neck pickup nor a tone knob
@@sergutiov too bad for you
Absolutely. Same way I tune Steve....
@@sergutiov Guess you can't tune up. Do you use a clip-on in that case then?
sparkyguitar 00 i use a polytune 3 pedal haha 😂
This is the pedal board i need.
Then add a Miku at the end!
You could also try new strings once in a while 🤔
Lofl 😆
Great idea for pedalboard, each tuner for different pitch 😏
if humans can only hear to 10 cents how can electronic tuners not be more specific?
Send a 440hz Sine wave through and see if all the tuners recognize it as "A"!
I wonder how much the cheap ones they showed were correct compared to the least accurate by using a wide tolerance.
They (the BOSSes) don't disagree on the A string, which is a whole number multiple/divisor of 440 hz (220 hz). Or on the Es and D, which is closest to an integer ratio in 12-tone Equal Temperament. It's with the B and G which are a whole tone off the octave. But those are the second-most consonant (relative to just intonation) intervals in 12-TET after the fifth and the fourth (E and D). It's like they aren't programmed with just quite the correct interval. The generic chip found in random cheap chinese tuners seems to be much better in this regard. They just let down in build quality or display.
Also tuner Apps are good to check.
Yeah, this is a seriously badly designed experiment. The guitar is too variable. A 440Hz sin wave is not variable.
@@BibleStorm Why would you care how a guitar tuner performs outside of the scope of a guitar? Unless you're planning on playing sine waves instead of guitars sometime soon this seems to get the point across. This is what tuning with these tuners is ACTUALLY like.
There's a lifetime of guitar frustration on display here ......
Oh yes, yes there is... I have always thought the same...
hit E string
hit whammy bar
repeat for 1 hour
Aren't you supposed to always tune "upwards"? That is even if the string is slightly sharp, you drop it flat and then increase tension until it's in tune?
understanding.
If this is NESSESARY..your strings are not moving freely through your nut most likely, or perhaps the angle from the nut to the tuning peg is too extreme to allow it to move freely because of the friction created from the angle in which case keeping that guitar tuned will always be an issue.. Epiphone Les Paul guitars have better tuning stability than Gibson Les Paul guitars for this very reason.. Check your nut the next time you change strings and drag the old string moderately through the nut groove of that string..it should slide through easily. If not use the string like a file and run it it back and forth on the nut groove for that string just once or twice being you dont want to cut the nut groove deeper, just enough to clear it. Factories typically do not do the lil things and this is a VERY common problem...you may need a proper nut file for strings not wound. Try a very small bit of lube in the groove. Good luck
Not as big a deal with locking tuners as there is very little string wound around the post but for the most part yes.
James Hill brings up a good point about friction at the nut, but a big deal is the amount of wraps around the tuning machines. Tuning down can cause them to slacken, then settle later. Since locking tuners don’t need all those wraps, tuning down isn’t such a big deal.
This is mostly an issue of backlash in the worm wheel system. accurate worm wheel systems will not have this issue to a degree that you can feel it.
Clearly these tuners are made out of different tonewoods...:p
Tunewoods.
Extra points for that
Clearly these tuners are all made by Gibson; which is why they will not tune a guitar.
@@nitegoat1369 Tune authentic.
But the best ones are made of Richlite.
Tabs would be great!
Ah, the constant battle of 12-tone even temperament vs the uniformly-fretted string instrument :)
It'll never be perfect, sadly.
Pianos are purposely wrong, yet many singers learn to sing their notes using a piano which might not match any other instrument on the planet.
True Temperament frets are pretty damn close, though.
@@orlock20 barbershop quartets have no limits!! in-tune gods and shave and a hair cut
@@bluejavelina5335 They learn to harmonize with each other, but few use instruments when doing the performance.
@@orlock20 yeah thats what im saying , the guy doing the major 3rd of the chord can be 2 cents flat and it will sound better for it. and fifths sound better 2 cents sharp etc.. edit: "or girl"
I do not regret spending over 19 minutes just on tuners. This is very important to me and I REALLY needed to know this. Guys, thank you very much!
Me: I'm going to do something productive today.
Also me: oh a 20 min video of people tuning a guitar
Why isn't that productive? I's IMPORTANT! You did good. Real good.
Hahaha
"It's interesting, isnt' it? No. It's the most boring video we've ever done but it's informative." Lol
This video actually has made me feel better about my own struggles to keep my guitar in tune.
Me, too!
Having used a lot of tuners over the years, from Peterson's to Boss and Korg etc., I've found that it's important to pick the strings when tuning the same way - (or close) - to the way you pick the strings when you're playing, otherwise you'll definitely be out of tune when you "attack" the strings while you're playing in a gig situation. Just my own personal experience, and most tuners are not "perfect".
Actually laughed out loud at the more tuna than a sushi place joke.
He made this video just to use that line.
An old trick is if you’re recording a song in E don’t tune the guitar EADGBE instead hold the E chord and tune each note of the chord. Anytime you tune you’re only tuning the note of that open string and the moment you press it down it will be a little out of tune because the amount of pressure you apply will be sightly different every time.
"Are Human Ears More Accurate?" Years of playing and listening to bands live seem to be pretty strong evidence of "No". ;-)
Train your ear with unaccompanied vocal practice for a year or so and that answer will change. In fact the human voice is typically the only instrument that CAN be in perfect tune in any key. Check out some doo-wop or a capella jazz for real-world examples of this.
Years gone by when piano tuners were human beings, many were blind as they had really good ears, They would tune to a note, and then play chords, etc and adjust accordingly so it sounded right.
@@madcockney Just because they existed doesn't mean they were better than electronic tuners
@@ktfjulien I didn't say that the human piano tuners were better.
When my Boss tuner says I’m in tune, I test it against the rest of my band and could swear that it sounds a little flat. It drives me bonkers. At least I know now that it’s not just me. This was a very informative video :)
make sure its set to 440khz. may need a reset
one way you could compare different tuners would be to use a sine wave tone coming from a synth and see if the tuners register differently.
Pitch Fork? I thought that it was a Tuning Fork! Don't you use Pitch forks with your hay? 🤔
Well there is a huge music related site called pitchfork.
@@tree267 Well to be honest Pitchfork is a better play on words than Tuning Fork! 😉
It’s punnier that way 😂
I mean technically you could use a tuning fork to shift hay, it would just take a little longer lol
Actually more interesting that I expected. It would have been interesting to send a sine wave through at a known pitch to see how accurate they were before testing them on a guitar.
That's a great idea
Turbo tuner, not shown here, is the most accurate...
Nyne Forte yes.
Too logical. 🥴
Define "known pitch". How do you know the quartz in your computer is accurate? :)
every drummer's favorite jam
underrated comment
The flaws of equal temperament tuning on display right here
I generally get the best results with any tuner that you are plugged into by rolling down the tone all the way and using the neck pickup and making sure to always tune UP to the correct pitch.. that way you are tightening the tension as you reach the pitch.
I would be very interested in seeing another video where you take multiples of the same tuner and compare them to see if they all match.
Neck... I was just thinking the exact same thing. Cheers！
Same here.
Neck these tuners being digital, the differences would be incredibly low if not nonexistent. Ones with a minimal display wouldn’t even show it.
Analog tuners would be a different story! But those can be calibrated.
2:22 Boss TU
3:43 Korg Pitchblack
4:37 Boss TU-3
5:05 Cheap pedal
5:45 TC Electronic Polytune
7:53 Peterson
8:32 TC Electronics Polytune Mini
Awesome video! The Fender tuner could have been a nice addition to the episode, a popular tuning pedal. Also, the Artec Big Dots.
I think you've accidentally stumbled upon the horrific imperfect art that is intonation!
I wish you guys did the strobe mode on the polytune 3. It claims to be +/- .02 cents accurate which is basically very close if not the same as the Peterson tuner.
I remember reading an interview, about 25 years ago, or so, with Alex Lifeson from Rush. The question of staying in tune came up, considering his choice of complex chords. He stated that, he always starts of with a tuner and chosing the neck pickup because it catches closest to the wider part of the string vibrating, and would tune the strings. He would then tune the guitar to itself. He would hold chords, and tune the chords. Using three or four different chords along the neck and tune to the guitars idiosyncrasies. Making sure he would tune first and sixth strings to the tuner if they went off. And tune the rest to the chords he liked to use. He would go back and forth between the chords until they sounded right. Ever since then, I use the same method, with great results. If you've been playing long enough you just naturally know how the chords are supposed to sound like.
Give it a try.
I just tried it. Didn't work, I still don't sound anything like Alex Lifeson
Tuning for what you are playing is a good idea on the guitar. If you are going to be playing a lot of open chords, tune for the best tuning in that position. if you are going to play higher chord forms up the neck, tune for that region. It is my understanding that this is what EVH does. He loves those chord shapes around the middle of the neck, especially those where the third is on the B string, so he tunes for those to be most in tune. He likes his third a little flat so he tunes the B a little flat.
@@KidNato lol, neither do I, but I can still dream.
For most of my playing over the past 30/40 years, I've tuned my ear, to tune to the root of whatever tune I was playing along too. Given that tuning stability was all over the place in some recordings, or even diliberately out (Page), this was the best way of getting in tune with the artist/recording. But this technique started when I was around six or seven, when I first started playing the recorder at school and for the following years up to 17 (on obtaining my first guitar), the recorder and occasionally the piano were my only instruments. I have always been able to play music by ear and of course to always know when someone/something was out of tune.
My ears *had* perfect pitch, they still are pretty accurate, despite the years, but I learned to do the same as Alex as my competency grew. Now, I do use tuners (one clip-on and the onboard tuners of the Pod and TC-E processor... Which appears the most accurate and easier to use, for me..). But I still tune initially by ear and then cross-refer to one of the E-tuners, then I tune the guitar to open chords. This is a constant process often. And of course all guitars have differing tuning characteristics.
He (Alex) needs to tune so much to adjust for “Using Gibsons” - #Gstring 🤣🤣🤣
Important: if you play while standing, tune while standing, because the pressure on the neck of the strap changes the tuning
Thanks Joni Mitchell, but I think the majority of us are on electric.
"Daddy, please make it stop!" "Shh son I'm watching this Anderton's video"
16:08 the strap on ;)
This would have been a perfect opportunity to bring in a true temperament guitar!
You guys even managed to make a tuner episode enjoyable.
God, I love this channel. 😂
I appreciate that someone else has suffered along with me when the tuner says I'm good but something sounds off.
I have the older boss tu-2 and in my experience the best results are when you tune fast and pick several times so you tune the attack of the note since it's always the sharpest of the whole note. :)
I found the TU2 slow to wake up and slow to tune. TU3 much faster
I was given a tip a long time ago that when you tune your guitar you should hit the strings as hard as you normally play, that way the pitch is correct. It really does help
Also if you play heavier stuff where you're really chugging on the bottom strings a lot, turn the tone down and keep hitting the string as you tune. That way it'll be in tune all the time you're playing like you normally do.
Amen to that: "keep hitting the string as you tune"
That's a good tip. For years I just lightly pecked at strings while tuning, then wondered why when I robustly strummed a chord it didn't sound right. So, like you, I learned to hit the string not hard, but with a firm stroke to get the best reading. Of course, when we're actually playing the guitar, we're not always striking the strings with the same force because we need dynamics in our playing.
it depends on your string tension, too. A big advantage of heavier gauge is less going-sharp in the initial transient. Playing 9s and 10s - especially with a heavy hand - is always going to 'wonk' the pitch sharp by 5-15cents over the first 50-100milliseconds of the note.
This is partly why the buzz feiten system only works with specific gauge and scale of guitar.
Yep, guitar strings will get sharper as you hit harder, and they'll also go flat as they sustain. Also make sure that you have the guitar in playing position, rather than laying on a table, because gravity affects it too - probably wouldn't do that at a show, but I can see someone doing that after a string change.
Did you make sure they're all calibrated the same? Ie. A = 440
If they weren’t then all the strings would be sharp or flat. By quite a bit
@@baileyandthebadhabits9254 nah. 1 or 2 cents is pretty subtle
I lost it at "strap-on tuner" ... filthy Captain 🤣
Someone should let Boss know… their tuners don’t tune… #justsaying
They both have “Strobe/Stream modes” (FYI)
James Taylor does a series on tunings. He moves string tuning up or down a few cent.
that only works for capos
Paul Morini His tuning “preset” is included in the Peterson tuner as a sweetened tuning simply known as “ACU” as in acoustic. I love my Peterson stroboclip.
Or just make psychedelic rock like the velvet underground did. Being out of tune will be a good thing there
That's gonna be the most in-tune guitar ever.
You tune up not down. That’s half of your issue no matter what tuner you use.
Actually all tuners have slight differences which is coming from the tolerances of the components in their circuit. Which is why in the studio you want to have all the instruments tuned through the same tuner.
If they were mechanical then I would agree. However, they're digital.... so I'm having a hard time.
@@OverMotoren Well digital works based off analog components. Clocks for example are varying a lot between computers - set up 3 computers without internet access and observe their clocks for an hour - they will drift significantly. The frequency in a computer comes from a quartz crystal and they have huge tolerances - up to 30% are not rare. There are similar principals for "generating" the reference pitch. If it was all digital then the tuners would have to sample / digitize your input signal, for which you'd need a precise clock, which tuners most likely won't have. Even if you ignore all that. Different tuners come with different accuracy some are 0.1 cents some are 0.01 cents or even more these days. So you are guaranteed to get different results from tuners with different accuracy - if you want to know why they have different accuracy you can follow up my explanations with some research of your own into computers, clocks and such :) Enjoy!
Love it. I'm not gonna argue a single bit.
@@hukl3945 That's why you synch computer time to NIST!
hukl, NO! Try 30ppm for a bog standard crystal. That's 0.003%. 30% is 18 minutes per hour. Is your computer really that crap? 0.003% is, I expect, inaudible to humans, so I doubt the tolerances in a digital tuner are audible.
Love my new Polytune3, but... Has anyone ever experienced that the polytune function says all six strings are perfectly in tune, after having tuned it (perfectly) one string at the time? Personally i think the polytune function is useless (but the rest of the tuner (especially in strobe mode) is the best tuner I've ever had!
Neighbors complain about my playing, wait 'til I blast this video on my speakers
man I can't wait to show you my new pedalboard!!!
*dusts off 7 tuners*
The Polytune has a strobe mode as well that's more accurate than the normal mode.
Yes indeed. I think if you want to be in tune use a tuner with a strobe! Captains, can't you do a strobe test to see which strobe tuner is the best? Or if they differ much. :)
And yet even in the regular mode, it was better than both the Boss ones! Haha.
You should've tested it with a pure sine wave from something like a synth first
I have a Boss TU3 and thought I needed a guitar set up ... used my buddy's TC and tuned up and checked everything and the guitar was perfect. I spent months tuning and then strumming a chord and fixing my tuning. I work at a studio and we use a Boss tuner and I feel like its never correct. The TC is always super accurate and the Boss seems off. I don't trust it. I 100% believe in this test.
0:30 the symmetry, the perfection of that throw. Heavenly!
I would love to see how the Gibson robo tuners that everyone hated would compare to these
Same
More authentic tuning.
@@davedavem how authentic?
@@TheIgisas play authentic :D :D :D
@@stanislavmigra shush
Interesting video Captain. Hey! Just curious, but have you considered downloading every known guitar tuner app and trying this same method out to see which tuner app is the most accurate? I happen to have the Boss tuner app on my phone, and after watching this video, I have become quite a bit curious as to how accurate that app is when I'm tuning my guitars.
Cheers from The Sticks of Kaufman County, Texas, USA. 🎸
Since a lot of us have switched to Kemper, Helix, etc. You guys should do an episode comparing the Kemper tuner vs Helix Tuner vs. Axe Fx, etc. Would be interested to see the results.
Tuning, tuning stability, & intonation can (and will) drive you bonkers. I almost always hear the G as sharp in an open E chord. I am a hard squeezer tho, as I played bass first, and played acoustic guitar for a few years mainly, before going back to electric guitar. It is NOT an exact science, and you kinda sometimes have to "fake it till you make it". It's a love/hate relationship. Stretch those strings kids! Climate control plays a BIG role also. After all, it is just century old tech made from dead trees, wire, and magnets: )
Cheers guys!
Great Video. Any chance you lads could do a closed cabinet vs open cabinet comparison? Cheers
I think there’s a ThatPedalShow episode dealing with precisely that.
Ok. Thanks
I'll say this. Once I got my first cabinet that was easily convertible from closed to open I could never go back.
The tuners tend to work almost identically through closed or open cabinets as far as I can tell...
@@ryemill7787 How would you say the sound is different between the two options?
Korg Pitchblack is one of the best pedal tuners I've used. I just recommend if playing in a band everyone use the same brand and make. Edit: The mentioned that right after i posted this.
0:45 - I solved that problem years ago: both me and the other guitarist in my band tune our guitars with the same tuner. : )
@Andertons, are you aware of Roadie 3, which is made by Band Industries? Because it not only tunes with the vibration from the tuning pegs, but also turns the strings automatically! Sorry to say you didn’t invent that idea, Captain, lol. They had three successful kickstarters, the first of which was funded in Jan 2014 and the most recent Roadie 3 (which is kick-ass!) shipped this past December. It works on nearly all geared tuning pegs and they have a model specially made for Basses. I’ve had all three versions and they are incredibly accurate. And there’s even more features like storing as many alternate/custom tunings as you could want! It has a smart app, but it works totally standalone for those who prefer it that way - and it’s super easy to use either method.
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Can't you split the signal seven ways and use all tuners at once that way?
You just sold a few more Korg tuners, boys! And I'm never buying a Boss tuner...
Thank you Pete and Captain. It was actually very informative.
I agree 100% - I eventually ended up buying matching tuners for everybody in all of the bands I was in most recently. Four different 4 member bands each ended up making m wallet lighter - but my ears thanked me!
Tuning is a tricky subject and has been ever since music was invented. It is physically impossible to get a guitar perfectly in tune. Even with wavy frets for perfect equal temperament, equal temperament itself is a compromise tuning. Which is why you get the - G chord sounds in tune but the D chord doesn't - problem.
When a string is plucked it is deflected and tension is increased slightly, making the pitch sharp. As the note decays the tension slowly drops and pitch falls. This is visible on really accurate tuners, others seem to employ some kind of damping to lock on to the intended note.
There are two things to consider with a tuner; pitch accuracy - if the tuner shows A 440 how close is that to exactly 440Hz. It is certainly quite a feat of accuracy if all 11 of those tuners show A 440 when fed with a 440Hz tone. The second thing to consider is discrimination - how small are the pitch graduations. On many cheaper tuners the display is only graduated in steps of 3 cents, or sometimes even coarser.
The best tuner I have found is an app - Cleartune. The display shows two dials - one a course dial that shows a span of several notes, and the other shows plus and minus 25 cents (and there are a number of other features). This is great for guitar repair work because you can measure and write down intonation errors in cents and set tuning to under 1 cent. I have yet to find another tuner that allows that. The Peterson tuners claim an accuracy/definition of 0.1 cents, but they only display that as a simulated strobe except in the software app version, which does seem to show an error in cents. When I started playing guitar all we had was a set of harmonica style pitch pipes.
Terry Relph-Knight. The 440 hz "A"as you probably know is to set the hertz frequency of the other notes. Some tuners allow you to modify this as that "A" above Middle "C" as in some places that frequency is not accepted. (In years gone by there were a lot of variations through out the World, and even some within Europe however in more recent years the 440 Hz has become more accepted.) In orchestras instruments are set from a certain pitch and that is usually from an in tune piano as that cannot be easily adjusted whereas most others can.hertz frequency of the other notes. Some tuners allow you to modify this as that "A" above Middle "C" as in some places that frequency is not accepted. (In years gone by there were a lot of variations through out the World, and even some within Europe however in more recent years the 440 Hz has become more accepted.) In orchestras instruments are set from a certain pitch and that is usually from an in tune piano as that cannot be easily adjusted whereas most others can.
Like you when I started we only had pitch pipes, tuning forks, and possibly keyboards to tune from. I could never get on with pitch pipes that also went out depending on how hard you blew so you had to be careful. I went for the pitch fork, and tuned all other strings at the 4th and 5th fret. In a band situation we would tune all instruments to one and then check them by playing chords, etc and adjust if need be. Though none of these are perfect especially with ET and fixed frets, (neither are harmonics that were highly promoted at one time), I do wonder if the old tuning at the 4th ad fifth fret made the guitar "sound" more in tune as you moved around the guitar . Like most I use electronics these days to tune my guitars and it is certainly quicker to get at least close than in those earlier days. I was never good at tuning by ear and often when others said their instrument was in tune to me it often didn't sound that way.
@@madcockney Yes I know some tuners allow offsetting or retuning the reference and that orchestral A has only quite recently settled on 440Hz. I mentioned A440 simply because (it is now) a common reference and all modern tuners will treat that as the default. My point was that all tuners must be adjusted or calibrated to a reference and whatever that reference pitch is, it is unlikely all tuners will be adjusted spot on to that pitch. The question is, is the technology of electronic tuners in general good enough that if you tune to any tuner, is it going to be so close to any other tuner that any error doesn't matter.
Tuning by harmonics is the way that the old minstrels used to do it back in the days when they had moveable frets and the reason it doesn't work perfectly on modern instruments is that natural harmonics are the basis of just intonation not equal temperament. The result of tuning from string to string at the fifth and fourth frets will vary depending on how carefully the intonation compensation is set at the bridge. Then there are the 'sweetened' tunings where you tune the various strings so many cents flat or sharp ...
The more you delve into tuning and improved accuracy the further down the rabbit hole you go.
I’m an audio engineer and in the recording studio we use Peterson strobe units almost exclusively. Every band that comes in gets a recommendation for our favorite guitar tech to intonate their guitars, and a little lesson on using the strobe tuner! Peterson has a phone app that’s also amazing.
They are tougher to use playing live though
Thanks! I’ve been going back and forth between the Peterson Strobo Stomp, Turbo Tuner ST 300, and the Peterson “strap-on” tuner as the Captain would call it. If the phone app works well, I’ll get the clip on. I have an old, huge VT-2 that provides a sweetened temperament for guitar that sound much better to my ears than equal temperament. Peterson has different temperaments for electric, acoustic, 12 string ... something like 50 custom tunings.
Their end result is so much nicer though, worth dialing your guitars in with them.
Top E and A tuned a little flat to compensate for them going sharp when picked. G tuned about 5% flat to compensate for the inherent tuning flaw of a guitars design.
The Boss TU-3 phone app is quite good, better than most clip-ons.
I like the TU-3 app too, although for me it's more of an at-home with no-one else making a noise thing.
Text fishy I'm legally blind and the only tuner I found both those on the market and on the phone apps is send it to me. I wonder how accurate it is compared to the boss phone app. I play mostly by myself so it's not really a problem and like I said just send it to him is the only one that I'm actually able to see and use so kind of limits my my range of Tunis to say the least anyway peace and I please excuse any typos misspelled words that's a lack of punctuation. I'm not a bad diaper and I'm not even a little bit a little people friends like to say I am :-) you could tell by my comment what my problem is I use speech to text and it was incessant does what it wants sincerely yours, the blinds bedroom guitarist
I have just purchased the new Peterson HD strobe tuner..its by far the most accurate tuner I have used..one of its MANY options is that it has an audible selectable tone it plays out of a built in speaker w a volume control on the side with many octaves.. My last tuner unlike this one was a DiAdario stomp box..it claims a 32bit processor, stars..the moon blahblahblaaah. Not very accurate..I find it better to go with tuning E then tuning the rest by ear.. I find its better money spent($160) to put Gibsons Tp6 micro tuner tails on all my Gibsons with a String Butler up top, make sure your nut is free and lubed..that minimizes the need for frequent tuning for me to begin with. If your guitar stays in tune its because your not playing it. They all go out..and tuners like Petersons are really stepping up leaps and bounds in this area.
Lee’s go-to pickup line:
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Effectiveness measured by lady leakage.
Where your finger is in relation to the preceding fret or the following fret as well as the variance in the amount of pressure you apply when fingering the instrument affects the precision of the tuning.
Video is a moot point without a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner
Best tuner ever, whereas my polytune has been aweful.
Yep great tuner.
By far the best (compact) tuner on the planet. Mine is the only one I've ever seen on a board in person.
I've got one as well and they're priceless.
I've found that the clip-on ones really struggle when there's lots of outside noise, say if you're between songs and a room full of drunk people are hollering and clapping away.
This is a great video. Boring subject maybe, but critical.
To me, there's no tuner that beats the Peterson ones. Even the cheap smartphone model shows you the cents, which is very useful to set intonation properly.
When you play that kind of open G, you’re only really hearing G and D notes (1st and 5th). When you play E you’re trying to get a pleasant sounding G# major 3rd on the first fret of your heaviest plain steel string which will always give you intonation problems (as it’s relatively stiff and doesn’t move much at each end of the string).
If you are in a band you should not all have the same brand tuner, you should tune to each other.
You got me at "more tuna than a sushi bar..." damn I love dad jokes.
I've always used Korg tuners. I have the standard Pitchblack pedal and before that the Korg rackmount. They always have seemed the most reliably accurate tuners. Never understood why so many players use the Boss tuner pedal. Much harder to see and less accurate than Korg or TC tuners.
The worst tuner is have ever used is the tuner in my line 6 hx effects. I use clip on TC tuner instead. Much better
Enjoyed this and well worth the time. NOT boring - quite funny and entertaining. Thank you. It also underscores what live band guitarists have to put up with on stage. Factor in fast moving song sets, time constraints, temperature fluctuations, weather etc., and it’s a true marvel that anyone sounds right. Guitars are living breathing instruments.consisting of organic materials. Naturally, it is a going to present a serious challenge. Cheers.
I would have like to have seen Pete tune by ear then start going down the line. Surprised at the Boss tuners which are popular. I use a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-300 mini. I wonder how that would have stacked up.
Use the "sweetened" tuning setting on the petersen and that G string problem will go away
A word of Warning to headstock tuners - i clipped one to my Gibson Studio and after a few days it had left an impression (literally) on my headstock (the lacquer). Will never(!) do that again. Could fix a bit through polishing but could not fix it completely. So just a heads up to all considering such a kind of tuner.
Tuned guitars are so overrated ;) And yes, I watched it til the end!
I own the Conn Stroboconn and Strobotuner.... the grandparents of the Peterson tuners. I'm convinced that the mechanical strobes are the best.
I'll stick with by Boss TU3, used for years and built like a tank..........................and a snark for quick checks on an acoutic
Valve guitar tuners all the way.... none of this digital modelled crap!
You go for it lol, nobody at the gigs I play is gonna be able to tell the difference!
Just have a midget hum the notes for you
ok boomer
We know the Peterson is accurate. Compare them to it.
I tuned to a record when I learned to play. I'm that old.
I used to tune to the low E in Enter Sandman by Metallica, then the rest by ear.
I've got blurry vision and play outdoors during daytime on occasion. I've been through several. I presently have the Korg custom shop tuner pedal with the green and blue 3D display. I can see the bugger! In daylight, at dark, from across the room at angles. I'm hooked on it. Accuracy seems perfect, even with the band.
Best thing you've done in ages - genuinely interesting!
You're supposed to tune a twelfth fret harmonic, it has no impact flutter
Perhaps being in tune is just a state of mind.
as long as you are not way out of tune, you just need to be as close as posible to the right note for every string
@@carlitoxb110 It doesn't matter if I'm in tune or not. The band I play with is just happy if I hit the right notes.
I just learned that a super tight strap-on will improve your pitch. Thank you Andertons UK 🇬🇧.
It sounds flat and out of tune because PRS guitars are soulless.
Ain't that the truth bro you got that right. I couldn't have said it better! Sincerely yours Bob the blind guitarist
May have been stated already but you could have grabbed a Boss ES-8 off the shelf and ran all of these tuners in loops and compared simultaneously. One output could have routed to an amp so we could hear Pete’s chords.
I stuck an Earvana nut on one of my guitars and hearing the open E and A chords being in tune is incredible. You get so used to the slight dissonance that hearing the chord without it is very surprising.
Lead us all to Earvana™