Arthurian Legend: Morgan le Fay
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In today's video, we learn the many commonalities between Morgan le Fay from Arthurian Legend and Ranni the Witch from the Lands Between. Both are mystical sorceresses who reside within mist covered kingdoms under the protection of dragons, both plot the downfall of their relatives, and both use magical abilities to achieve their overarching goal of tipping the current status quo in favor of their own desires.
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Nice video. It's the first time that I heard that Ranni is daughter of Marika and Radagon though. Always thought her mother is Renala.
All sources found within the game plainly state that Rennala is Ranni's mother, so your thoughts are absolutely correct!
That being said I believe there is more to this story. Ranni has a strange connections with Melina (theorized daughter of Marika), & the Black Knife Assassins (an all female group made up of Numan, Marika's race). We do not know much about Empryreans, I derived my knowledge from the Remembrance of the Rot Goddess: "Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such they are both Empyreans". If this is true how could Ranni be an Empyrean?
There is also something odd about the amber egg left to Rennala by Radagon and the idea of the Cuckoo bird's tactic of brood parasitism (knights that guard the academy, as well as the actual birds found in their cages around the academy). The amber egg being of the Erdtree, aka the Greater Will and Radagon being the one god created Ranni, Radagon is Marika, slightly confusing. Check out my Queens of Caria video for more information.
Tldr: Nothing in game states that Marika is Ranni's daughter, just a personal theory. Thank you for watching!
@@EldenTales I mean even if we take it at face value, and believe Ranni is the daughter of Rennala and Radagon, then she is technically still kind of Marika’s kid because Marika is Radagon and vice versa.
@@Etticos. I absolutely agree with you, Radagon/Marika would have the same biological children. Also the addition of the amber egg and the gold sewing needle grants more insight. The amber egg bestowed from the Erdtree/Greater Will, and the golden needle, found in the Church of Vows. The needle has Marika’s hair attached to it, with an item description that focuses on Radagon's marriage to Rennala; the term sew produces ideas sowing seeds of discord. The marriage possibly being a ploy to further the conquest of the Golden Order. All of that, plus the inclusion of the Cuckoo Birds in cages and their species being known for brood parasites; laying their eggs in the nests of other species to raise.
Nice video man, today I binged all your videos, keep it up they're really cool
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Great video! One point I'd like to add though: The Greater Will is never refered to as an outer god in game, nor is the Moon, and as of now, the lore community is more or less in agreement that the Greater Will is not an Outer God, but the entity that created life itself. It wants Order, but doesn't seem to care if the Order is Golden or not. To further support this, we know that there are multiple 2 Fingers that support different Empyreans with their own idea of Order, meaning the 2 fingers aren't all in agreement. So, the 2 fingers in the roundtable hold that want to restore the Golden Order are probably Marika's fingers. Then, we could argue if the Golden Order was created by Marika's own will, or she was forced to by her fingers.
Keep up the good work!
Fantastic point! I am not always in the loop within the lore community, thank you for bringing this to my attention! I absolutely agree that the one residing in the roundtable hold was once connected to Marika; kept alive by the faith of Sir Gideon Ofnir and those tarnished that can see the grace, or wish to become the next Elden Lord. Does this mean that the Greater Will created all of the worlds that we see in during our battle with the Elden Beast? Just to make sure I fully comprehend: the Greater Will created the Lands Between (life), over time a variety of outer gods seek influence, the Greater Will sends the Elden Beast/creates the Elden Ring to control its own creation?
What do you make of the god that is connected to Dragonlord Placidusax? Another outer god? Thank you for taking the time to watch, I sincerely appreciate that!
Pretty sure the Two Fingers lost their connection to the greater will long long long before the contemporary era of Elden Ring and some of them are just making it up and saying the greater will says so and so, others have abandoned the lie and simply serve the outer gods, and the last group have simply gone into statis with no idea what to do and are waiting for a reconnection with the greater will before they reactivate.
Such a cool video with super cool parallels - u defo earned my sub! 💙
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Good eye on catching that box of shells, you always seem to notice the tiny things that are so easily overlooked, yet also add so much more "color" to the lore and world. I never even noticed that myself when I looked through Ranni's tower, but it would make sense for her to have a connection to waters and the ocean given her connection to the moon and it's power over tidal forces. Sorcery in general seems to have a lot of connections to water and fluid movement, such as how the Primeval Current uses a term so strongly associated with ocean currents. Plus, Glintstone Sorcery is said have to have first begun with the Founding Rain of Stars spell, which says that it releases a "deluge of star rain", which also brings to mind the idea of vast amounts of water, although I don't know if the original japanese text also carries that connotation.
Interestingly, something I noticed about Ranni's Dark Moon spell is that, despite it clearly being Ranni's, it seems to be in-universe more connected with Renalla, as it's "associated with the Carian queen". Ranni is only a princess, whereas Renalla is said to be both the first and last Queen of Caria. In the achievement for collecting all the Legendary spells, the three Primeval spells are there, Comet Azure, Founding Rain of Stars and Stars of Ruin, but rather than the Full moon of Renalla which she used to bewitch the academy, the legendary spell is Ranni's Dark Moon instead. I don't know what it might imply, perhaps it's as simple as "Full moon spells of any sort are more connected to Renalla, so people unaware of the Occult Dark Moon would assume it's just Renalla's moon but darker", but combined with how there are two entirely distinct moons on the Moonlit Altar, a Dark one and a Full one, I suspect there might be something more to be found tugging on that thread.
Though I am curious, what led you to see Ranni as being a child of Marika and Radagon rather than Radagon and Renalla? Most sources in-game only refer to her as Renalla's child, and the only thing that Radagon gave to Renalla was the Great Rune of the Unborn. I'm aware of the idea that, since two other Empyreans are Miquella and Melania and were named as such because of the unique nature of their births, Ranni must also be one, but I personally don't think that that theory holds up under scrutiny.
We only hear that Malenia was specifically Born an Empyrean from Gowry who is already extremely devoted in mind and soul to Melania as his goddess, with all other sources mentioning how Empyreans are given that title saying that Empyreans are chosen by the Two Fingers, suggesting it is a title marking someone worthy of becoming a god of a new order. Anyone could be given the title in theory if they meet that unclear condition of "Being worthy to become a god", and it is just that the unique circumstances of the twin's birth got them a free ticket to getting the title.
We also see that Marika herself is one. Maliketh's remembrance says that she is an Empyrean, which if that title is only because the person is born of a single god, that would mean Marika herself would have been born by a single figure, who would also be an Empyrean themselves, which means they'd also be born of a single parent who would have been an Empyrean, and so on infinitely down the line until we'd get back to the very first Empyrean ever. Then it still raises the same question, how they did they become an Empyrean if they weren't born from a single parent? The only reasonable answer I can see is that they were given the title, and that while being born from a single parent entitles you to be an Empyrean automatically, it isn't the sole criteria needed to be one.
And more speculatively, I think there are two other things pointing towards Ranni being Radagon's child with Renalla. Her name lines up with the naming conventions of every other demi-god. Marika's direct children are Miquella, Malenia, and Melina, who seems likely to somehow also be the Gloam Eyed Queen, all being M---L--A names. Godfrey's descendants are all similar, Godwyn, Godfreoy, and eventually Godrick, all being God--- names. Meanwhile Renalla's kids are Radhan, Rykard, and Ranni, who all have R------ names. There is also Renna, who we only know about due to her tower name, but considering it is located in the Three sisters area alongside Ranni's rise, and Seluvis' rise which I think is a clear sign of renaming by it's new resident, it's likely that Renna is also related to Renalla.
Second is the Great Rune of the Unborn. Renalla appears to have fallen apart after Radagon left her, and according to Miriel, it's a massive mystery as to why Radagon "cast Renalla aside". Radagon was very strongly devoted to the things he believed in like the Golden Order, as it's his rune that blocks the entryway to the Erdtree and forces us to burn it down. Plus, Radagon's Rings of Light was a gift that he gave to Miquella, but it says that "and yet" Miquella abandoned fundamentalism since it couldn't save Melania, as though Radagon's Rings of Light was intended to be Radagon's attempt at curing Melania. So to anyone who isn't aware of his secret, if him leaving Renalla was weird and confusing, it would suggest that he was dearly devoted to her. The coldness with which Miriel describes Radagon leaving Renalla, and her breakdown afterwards rather paints the picture in my mind that the two really deeply loved each other, and Radagon had to put on a cold and emotionless poker face to face her when he left, otherwise he would have not been able to do so. Miriel also mentions that Radagon came to the Lands Between with an army, met Renalla in battle, only to then immediately seek forgiveness at the Church of Vows and married her. We see for ourselves how beautiful and powerful Renalla is during her second phase fight, so a powerful warrior like Radagon seeing her and falling in love on the spot doesn't seem that out there to me.
Which leads me to look at what he left her, the Great Rune of the Unborn. Of all the things he chose to leave with the woman he loved dearly, he gave her a physical manifestation of "unborn demigods". To me, that appears like he was attempting to tell her that "I wish I didn't have to leave, and I wish that we could have had many many more children together, so I will leave you with all of those unborn children I wished to raise together with you." If Renalla understood the message, it would also explain her breakdown, as she loved Radagon so dearly that she was willing to abandon her position as Queen of Caria in order to carry out that dream, "birthing" new children through the egg in a desperate hope to potentially have just one more child with Radagon.
Though as we are still waiting on the DLC, it's possible the theory that to be an Empyrean you must be born of a single god, could be proven true with additional information revealed. But for now with the evidence we currently have, I think the theory is far too reliant on one critical link that already is slightly unclear, and the opposite theory, that Ranni is a natural child of Radagon and Renalla, has much stronger evidence in support of it.
Though regardless, well done with the video. If you are on the topic of Arthurian legend, have you considered looking into Godfrey and the Crucible Knights, and their apparent similarities to King Arthur and his Knights of the Roundtable? Tarnished Archeology made a video, Godfrey and the Truth of the Crucible, which looked into some of the similarities, but he seemed to tackle it more from a "What can King Arthur's legend teach us about Elden Ring's lore" angle, focusing on how the connotations that "A roundtable" has thanks to the legends, and what it can inform us about regarding the Fortified manor in the lore. I'd be curious to see if you found anything to add on to that discussion in a sort of "How was King Arthur and his knights "translated" by Fromsoft's writers into Godfrey and his knights" way, as that seems to be something you do quite well.
I always look forward to your comment! I absolutely thought the same thing about the connection to the sea, as well as the moon that controls the tides; but I never thought to connect it with the Primeval Current, genius! It seems that meeting with the Outer God represented by the Moon is a rite of passage for Carian princesses; the mastery of the spell may show their ability to accept the position of queen. Ranni’s Dark Moon & Rennala's Full Moon are both fantastic sorceries, Ranni though seemingly perfected as how hers can cause frostbite, which although effective on its own also reduces your foe's magic negation. Rennala is an extremely powerful sorcerer no question, especially in her heyday, but she is no Empyrean, which gives it its legendary status. Originally I thought that the Moon and the Dark Moon were one in the same, but at a different phase of time when a shadow was cast onto the Moon’s face and therefore made its surface colder, though upon seeing that there are two obviously separate entities found on the Moonlit Altar I am uncertain of the meaning.
The Night of the Black Knives seems to be a crucial moment that resulted in the downfall of society within the Lands Between, yet the purpose behind it still confuses me. I understand that Ranni had plotted to dispose of her Empyrean body, while also retaining her spirit, as to change the fate she was given by the Greater Will, but why kill Godwyn? Yes both Morgott & Mohg were kept a secret in the sewers, but Godwyn must have had children as the lineage continues to the current age with Godrick. There must have been other options, so why Godwyn?
I theorize that this choice was made out of revenge. Ranni, as well as many others as pointed out by Miriel, Pastor of Vows knew that Radagon’s abandonment caused Rennala’s breakdown. Ranni loves Rennala more than anyone and wanted revenge for the mistreatment on the one person Marika loved more than anyone, Godwyn. Although the item description for Ranni’s Dark Moon does directly state that her mother is Rennala, I have my own crackpot theory that it isn’t as simple as that. Have you ever heard of Superfecundation, it’s a rare phenomenon in which twin babies born from the same mother came from two separate biological fathers. The entity that Marika has become through the powers of the Greater Will are not very explained, but I would image that Marika & Radagon’s biological reproductive system is very complex. Would you believe it was possible that Ranni was a twin to Melina born of Radagon and Marika, a single god. Ranni must have a twin as she is an Empyrean, yet the only other mention of one existing is the Gloam-Eyed Queen.
Now I also believe that the birth could have gone two ways. One being that Ranni/Melina were separated at birth, one given to Marika, the other to Rennala. OR that they were born within the same body containing twin souls. The Night of the Black Knifes acting as a rebirth for Melina as she is now split from Ranni’s original body found on top of the Divine Tower of Liurnia. Seeing how her mother, Marika abandoned her, she imprinted onto Rennala, aligning her heritage with the Carian family. Check out divine twins in Proto-Indo-European mythology: both have dual paternity, known to have rhymed/alliterative names, associated with horses, saviors at sea, of astral nature, and magic healers. Believe me I understand this is all conjecture, that your logic is sound and therefore correct; I do hope that Radagon & Rennala were deeply in love and it was not a tactic designed by the Greater Will. I did very much enjoy your perspective of his gift of the Great Rune of the Unborn given by Radagon and his meaning for it. Also read something about Godwyn possibly being chosen as a sacrifice due to a larger plan set in motion by Miquella, as there are many connections between him and Ranni. Was the Great Rune of the Unborn a part of Ranni’s strategy of rebirth into the puppet form?
Fantastic mention of the Crucible Knights! My next post will be focusing on them, but related to the Knights Templar. I need to check out Tarnished Archeology’s video, you give wonderful recommendations!
@@EldenTales Aww, thank you. I enjoy seeing your responses as well, as you always have interesting thoughts and insight too.
I was thinking on the whole twin moons situation some more, and I noticed another thing linking the Moon to the Primeval current, the Moon of Nokstella. It's really easily overlooked since it's effect of giving 2 more spell slots is extremely weak considering how many slots you get by just collecting all the memory stones, but it claims that "This talisman represents the lost black moon. The moon of Nokstella was the guide of countless stars". The black moon is very clearly a reference to the Dark Moon, and it seemed to have been destroyed rather than it being stolen by Astel, which the shards were turned into memory stones by sorcerers. If it was "the guide of stars", that would imply it had some degree of influence over the stars, which would connect it to the Primeval current to some degree.
Though it's made confusing by the Stargazer Heirloom and Greathood, and Ranni's dark moon. The Heirloom and greathood state that it was the Full moon that Renalla found, yet the Dark Moon spell says that Renalla led Ranni to encounter the Moon, and that what she saw was cold, dark and occult. It's a very odd detail that Renalla either intentionally led Ranni to a completely different moon than the one she encountered, or if she did take her to see the same moon, Ranni somehow saw something entirely different. It might suggest that they are the same entity, perhaps with them both being half of one single "genuine" moon of some kind, or maybe one of them is a false illusion the real moon is using to manipulate either Ranni or Renalla? I have no idea where this rabbit hole would lead though, as there seems to be so little about the duel moons... I hope some DLC is able to expand on it.
Your theory as to Ranni is certainly an interesting one, and the idea of Superfecundation is not something I would have ever considered. I wouldn't even honestly know where to start when trying to theorize as to how exactly Marika-Radagon's body would even reproduce given that it seems to be made of stone or something, as well as how it completely changes form based on who's taking over at the moment. Are they just like, a material, and the soul in charge molds the material like clay into a male or female body? Do they even need organs in the first place, given that their body seems hollow? Would they even reproduce normally in the first place, since we see murals around Lyndell showing bodies growing out of the Erdtree like fruits? It's such a strange aspect of the lore that I wouldn't know where to start theorizing.
Though I'm personally still rather hesitant as to that theory. There definitely some sort of strange similarity between Ranni and Melina, and all the evidence fits Melina as being the Gloam Eyed Queen in some manner too perfectly to discount. Throughout the game, I've never really been able to find anything that suggests the Gloam Eyed Queen specifically was a child of Marika, even though Melina herself is very much so, while also being the Gloam Eyed Queen. My own speculation is that Melina is the soul of the GEQueen, "reborn" thanks to Marika somehow, as she says herself that she is "burned and bodiless", suggesting she wasn't literally birthed by Marika but "born" in a more abstract sense. So I'm hesitant on the theory that the GEQueen and Ranni are twins, at least unless there's something out there to suggest that the GEQueen was genuinely a child of Marika.
For the Night of the Black Knives... I think the reason Ranni chosen Godwyn to be the victim is precisely because it's Godwyn. Everyone loved and adored him, and he was literally the golden child of Queen Marika. Ranni had begun to plan for her Age of Stars, but to do so, it would require replacing the Golden Order and getting Marika out of the way somehow. By taking out the most beloved demi-god of them all, it would throw everything into chaos, and cause enough instability and conflict that she could then take advantage of for her own plans. She appeared to support Rykard, giving him the confidence to start actually causing issues for the Golden Order, and by having the Black Knife assassins do all the hard work, she could shift all the blame for it onto them and the Eternal cities. If Ranni had known about Marika's growing doubt in the Golden Order, which Melina explains in her dialog at the minor Erdtree church, all this chaos would have likely pushed her to the breaking point, and either left her wide open to be removed, or she'd do something foolish and Ranni wouldn't even need to get her hands dirty, which we see happened with the shattering and Marika being imprisoned in the Erdtree.
I'm not sure if it was something Ranni actively planned for, but the Shattering would end up being the perfect time to get rid of Radahn and free the movement of the stars and her fate as well. Jerren seems to already know why Ranni might be interested in the Radahn festival, as he's the one to tell you to go tell Iji about how it will free up Ranni's fate. Iji and Blaidd had no idea about how important that was at first, but Ranni oddly doesn't mention anything at all about it. She already was working together with Rykard in preparation for the Shattering, as she gave the Blasphemous Claw to Rykard on the night of the black knives. So she clearly was keeping tabs on her siblings and who would be an ally, and who would be an enemy, so maybe her quiet about Radahn is her trust in Iji and Blaidd to figure it out on their own? That's just idle speculation though...
@@Late0NightPC I had not even thought of the Moon of Nokstella being connected to the Dark Moon Outer God, fantastic addition. Also the memory stones being fragments of Moon of Nokstella talisman mirrors the Great Runes fragmenting from the Elden Ring. Item description for memory stones read “black moon that once hung above the Eternal City”, does this mean the black moon was a physical item, similar to the other meteorites of worship throughout the Lands Between (ie the meteorite that brought the Elden Beast, the ones being collected from gate near the inner capital wall, or the ones that reside on top of the Divine Towers). There does seem to be a connection to the Outer Gods and meteorites, space rocks.
The Nokstella tie in makes all the more sense due to the connection of Ranni with the Numens. Although I believe the Numans originated from Nokron, there are many connections that tie Ranni to the Eternal Cities. Her entire quest takes you there being the most obvious, then her connection to the Black Knife Assassins, plus her Outer God being very similar to the Black Moon. Could Ranni be the Lord of the Night that the Nox were waiting for, or is the Lord of Night the true form of the Full Moon/Dark Moon. Ranni’s ending is the Age of Stars, while the Nox wait “in eternal anticipation of their liege. Of the coming age of the stars. And their Lord of Night. " (Nox armor)
I totally agree that the facts seem to point to Melina being the GEQueen, also confused due to the facts seemingly being that Marika is her mother, yet she has no mother at the same time, as she comments on Boc “I think he misses his mother. He wants someone to tell him he's beautiful. Does being born of a mother... Mean one behaves in such a manner?”. I just don’t understand why Melina would look like the snowy witch crone, which is the body that Ranni is modeled after. Was the GEQueen also the snowy witch crone?
I like your take of why she choose Godwyn, this would obviously upset the populace and create a storm of chaos that she could use to her own advantage to begin her own age. Makes complete sense to me, thank you for that clarification. I wasn’t aware that Jerren was the one to bring it to the attention of Iji, that’s very interesting. As always you have brought me fantastic information!
5:10 Could be a bit of a stretch here but also the "cutesty" version of Merlin is usually depicted with a hat with moon and stars on it, I'm going to assume the design on the underside of Seluvis' hat is like a nebula and a solar system.
Fantastic addition and not a stretch at all! As soon as I read this I was reminded of the giant Mickey’s sorcerer hat in MGM, the Disney park in Florida.
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So, this theory of Ranni being Marika and Radagon's kid, how does it work if she wasn't crippled at birth? The kids who are expressly stated to be Marika and Radagon's children are cursed due to this, and GRRM who wrote the story even implied this was an allegory for incestuous relations, so how does this hold water?
Remembrance of the Rot Goddess states that Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such they are both Empyreans, but suffered afflictions from birth. An affliction is something that causes pain or suffering. If these afflictions are due to being a product of incestuous creation then Ranni may fit as well.
I personally do not believe that Rennala was capable of having children, hence a need for the amber egg, as well as the cuckoo brood parasitism reference. The amber egg contains the essence of the Greater Will through the sap of Erdtree (Blessed Dew Talisman). With the amber egg (used to rebirth Ranni) and Radagon (same genetics as Marika due to being a mimic) Ranni would be made from a single god and the closet thing she would have to a blood related mother would be Marika. Rennala did raise Ranni as her foster mother, which is why Ranni embraces her as her mother, as well as the Carian bloodline and their beliefs.
As far as the curses that you mentioned, we do not know much about Ranni's original body prior to her sacrifice, therefore we do not know if she had a physical issue. When the Tarnished asks to enters Ranni's service to find out her where to find her body, aka the curse mark, is she says "if my past and past wounds beckon to thee...I'll allow it." This implies her past of being involved with the assassination, but past wounds could also imply a physical issue. Ranni's affliction could have been a lack of free will, being used as a puppet for the Greater Will, this notion caused her great suffering, which is by definition an affliction.
Also it is theorized that Ranni is somehow a twin spirit of Melina (matching eyes, connection to Torrent, meeting with both of them at the start of the game to gain key items). Melina is thought to be Marikas daughter/creation (Melina offers to reveal words spoken by Marika herself in the distant past at the churches dedicated to the queen). Melina uses the Blade of Calling, which matches the Black Knife, which connects her to Ranni, who lead the Black Knife Assassins. If Melina is Ranni's theorized twin and Melina is Marika's hinted at daughter then there must be some relation between Ranni and Marika. Melina is the day, while Ranni is the night.
Each Empyrean curse seems to be connected to an Outer God. Malenia with Rot (body parts rot off), Miquella with the Formless Mother (eternally youthful blood), Melina with the Three Fingers (kindling maiden), and Ranni with the Dark Moon (death). In this way the Empyrean's curse is their physical body, which needs to be sacrificed in order for them to turn into an Outer God.
If GRRM wrote the characters as cursed due to incestuous relations between Marika and Radagon, then who do you believe fathered Morgott/Mohg? Godfrey believes that Morgott is due to the way he holds him and his emotions of pride with how well he fought the Tarnished. But if the twins are omens then they are born cursed from the perspective of the Golden Order.
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I'm not really sure how that would track, honestly.
I can definitely see the notion of Ranni being made from Marika's foul play, what with the cuckoo symbolism and all, but a lack of free will? When the other twins are so directly entwined with their afflictions as Empyreans, Ranni having that sounds really weak. If there really was implications of that, I feel like there would've been something to point at it, but there isn't(it would be lit if it was revealed in the DLC though I won't even lie).
As for the Omen twins, it's not really a curse though is it? They were made this way from the power of the Primordial Crucible, AKA a more crude form of the Elden Ring. Godfrey held his son in esteem because he was around for the Crucible, meaning he was around when the Omens were considered a product of the divine. It's not really the same curse as Malenia or Miquella because it's not really a curse, all the negatives that they go through are external from a bigoted society.
There just isn't much to tie that together.
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 Ranni was chosen to be an Empyrean by the Two Fingers, she did not want to serve the Greater Will, being selected against her own free will. She chose instead to sacrifice her body in order to embrace her fate of becoming the Lord of Night. The Golden Order doesn't allow for shared beliefs, they wipe out other cultures that go against it. Free will is a theme throughout the game (Miquella trying to rid the Lands Between of the Outer Gods influence, the mimic tear stating that its mimicry does not extend to imitating the summoner's will). Hopefully the DLC dives deeper into the lore.
I completely agree that Omen are only viewed as cursed due to the bigotry of the Golden Order. I thought that the physical differences of Godwyn and his Omen brothers was odd, as well as the twins being born without grace. That being said Godwyn does have multiple associations with the Crucible as well, but not born an Omen, unless you believe he has a fish tail hah
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I guess? But that's hardly a curse by its definition, because curses in the Lands Between are extremely specific, so the implication still doesn't feel convincing enough. Omens are visibly cursed by nightmares and abuse, the twins have a pretty clear curse, they always have a physical aspect so tying Ranni's will and decision making to the theory seems like a stretch
...Honestly though, Godwyn might have actually been hiding the fish tail now that I think about it. He's more perfect than his brothers so it's easier to hide, and it's not like the Golden Lineage is above hiding shameful secrets.
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 Great points, I appreciate you taking the time to go over everything! I enjoy the Godwyn has a tail theory, only thing that makes me question it is the statue that may be Godwyn protecting Malenia/Miquella in the Haligtree.
Do you have proof her mother is Merica?
Nothing in game states that Marika is Ranni's daughter, just a personal theory:
1. We do not know much about Empryreans, I derived my knowledge from the Remembrance of the Rot Goddess: "Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such they are both Empyreans". If this is true how could Ranni be an Empyrean?
2. Ranni is said to be the daughter of Rennala and Radagon, Radagon is Marika, therefore Ranni would be related to Marika. Also there is the amber egg left to Rennala by Radagon (side note Cuckoo bird's use a tactic called brood parasitism that make others (Rennala) raise their own (Marika’s) children). The amber of the egg is Erdtree sap fused with the “blessings” of the Greater Will during the age of plenty. As mentioned earlier Empryeans are born of a single god, in Ranni’s case we have Radagon (Marika) and the amber egg, all pieces of the Greater Will.
3. Within the amber egg is red hair (could be Ranni’s hair, could be Radagons). Interestingly, we also have Marika’s hair which found on the golden needle in the Church of Vows. The needle’s item description focuses on Radagon's marriage to Rennala; the term sew produces ideas sowing seeds of discord (to say and do things which cause distrust among one another, which results in arguments and fights). We know there was a civil war between the Cuckoo Knights and the academy. The marriage possibly being a ploy to further the conquest of the Golden Order by causing chaos within Liurnia and planting an Empryean (sow).
4. Finally, Ranni has a strange connections with Melina (theorized daughter of Marika), & the Black Knife Assassins (an all female group made up of Numan, Marika's race).
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