Amazing track work. Can only be appreciated by a drone. Good to see the roundhouse still exists. Hard to imagine what it looked like in steam days. All the best. Mick🇬🇧
Great video. Normally I am not a fan of music added to a video, but that selection of music went well with what we were seeing. That was incredible footage that would not have been available a few years ago. Thanks so much for sharing it.
This is the best. Love it.I live in Argentine Kansas city Kansas. The Junction is not to far from where I live at on Powell st. I see all them tracks out my window daily from BNSF yard. Love this. I could watch drone videos over this area daily. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait till the new Live cam in this area goes up to see these tracks all the time.
Nice supplement for those of us who have been watching trains from the new VRF cams. We never get to see behind the company's building or see the wye where Amtrak turned around. Thanks!
That is one Massive Junction. Thanks for showing Drone footage so we can see just how Huge this MO / KS Border crossing is. WOW! Great 👍 Music Choice also.
Santa Fe Junction is literally on the Kansas City, Missouri / Kansas City, Kansas Border. You can see Union Station in the background. The tracks around Union Station are owned by the Kansas City Terminal Railway. All rail lines running through this maze of tracks are joint owners. This was done, so all rail lines were treated fairly, in access to Union Station and routing through KC. Just rail minutes away are the Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, KC Southern, Union Pacific rail yards and former yards of other lines. Years ago, the evening Amtrak line was on the lower level. The train was sent to a siding and crew had to flag traffic on Southwest Boulevard about 29th Street, to wait until they could get passage to Union Station. Several nights I had to wait for this train, while heading to my favorite Mexican restaurant.
This would be a good way to get a pattern for building a model railroad layout for sure!!! Just "drone" the prototypical right-of-way you want to model.
The Missouri River Runner seems to operate with four baggage cars always (though it has no checked baggage service) On YT videos some years old, still with P42DC power, the train never had more than 4 cars. I heard that is because of PTC, which cannot detect short trains, is that true? I understand Amtrak has to add some dummy baggage cars on CN tracks to Carbondale as well, because PTC requires a minium number of axles.
Because there is plenty of room to turn the train. For the most part the only reason others use those things is because there is no way to turn the train. Also it is not worth the expense.
WOW! Lovely view. Lovely video. I wonder why YT recommended this video now! I didn't see so many junctions, especially diamond junctions, lots of train flyovers in one place. Drones are really useful, if we know how to use those, other than killing innocents. Great job! Gr Britain Thu 26 Sept 2019 2210
I'm surprised they turn the whole train, in the UK the train would either have a power car at each end and unpowered coaches (cars) between - eg an old IC125/HST or like a modern MU eg class 800 be powered throughout the train. Why don't they just turn the loco and couple it to the other end of the stock?
All depends. Most commuter trains run a push-pull with power on one end and a control car on the other end. Some Amtrak runs, like the Downeaster and Cascades run a push-pull, but most all other Amtrak trains get turned.
A cab control equipped passenger car on the opposite end from the engine is used for many Amtrak commuter operations as Matthew Mello mentioned. Virtually all medium and long distance Amtrak trains are turned at each end of their route except for high-speed Acela trainsets given that they are equipped with a powercar on each end. This route between _Kansas City, Missouri_ and _St. Louis, Missouri_ is ~283 miles (~455 kilometres) one-way. That would be a relatively long distance to operate from a passenger coach cab control car. Passenger safety during grade crossing collisions during push-pull operations with a passenger coach leading has become a topic of concern and debate. The primary reason that passenger locomotives are not routinely uncoupled, turned independently, and then coupled to the opposite end, is that high-voltage HEP (Head End Power) cables connect the locomotive to the passenger coaches. This is necessary to distribute electrical power for lighting, heating, air conditioning, etc. Unlike with standard train air brake line hoses, road train crews usually don't ever mess with HEP cables for obvious safety reasons. These high current/high-voltage heavy power cables are best left connected long-term until it becomes absolutely necessary to break up the train.
Do you even need to turn a train around anymore? In germany we have a locomotive at one end of the train and just a control cabin at the other. And that is largely beeing phased out for EMUs.
@@InLoveWithCities yes, because a we didn't incorporate such technology in these cars (and these budd cars are a bit old), and we still haven't done it for most Amtrak trains because their isn't such intense demand for new equipment (as the old stuff works and Amtrak doesn't make profit on most of it's lines so they don't want to throw out what they already have if it is relatively fine). Personally, I think Amtrak needs a few upgrades in more than just it's locomotives.
Robbie Cain IT IS UNION PACIFIC, EX MISSOURI PACIFIC! IN KANSAS CITY MUCH TRACKAGE THAT IS RAN ON BY ALL THE LOCAL RAILROADS IS ACTUALLY THE KANSAS CITY TERMINAL RR! AT ONE TIME BEFORE BANKRUPTCIES AND MERGERS THERE WERE 13 SEPARATE RR COMPANIES OPERATING IN KANSAS CITY!
Used to do that every other day working the train back to KC from St Louis before tying up for the day. From 1987 to 2004.
Amazing track work. Can only be appreciated by a drone. Good to see the roundhouse still exists. Hard to imagine what it looked like in steam days. All the best. Mick🇬🇧
Wow I have never seen anything like this. It looks like an Interstate interchange, but for trains. Love the accompanying music too.
Great video. Normally I am not a fan of music added to a video, but that selection of music went well with what we were seeing. That was incredible footage that would not have been available a few years ago. Thanks so much for sharing it.
Man, that is some intersection of railroad tracks!
Outstanding video quality! Never been to KC. What an interchange. Thanks
This is the best. Love it.I live in Argentine Kansas city Kansas. The Junction is not to far from where I live at on Powell st. I see all them tracks out my window daily from BNSF yard. Love this. I could watch drone videos over this area daily. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait till the new Live cam in this area goes up to see these tracks all the time.
Why is that roundhouse cut of from the rail line? Whose was it, is it a museum now?
Nice supplement for those of us who have been watching trains from the new VRF cams. We never get to see behind the company's building or see the wye where Amtrak turned around. Thanks!
Wow! I need to go down there. Thanks for sharing this!
Nice video.
Interesting . Thanks for loads of action .
That is one Massive Junction. Thanks for showing Drone footage so we can see just how Huge this MO / KS Border crossing is. WOW! Great 👍 Music Choice also.
I always wondered where they turned it around, so it faced East again! Great drone flying!
Nice footage. Love the music as well.
I've never seen so much track outside of a model railroad.
Nicely done!
Good quad video!
nice catch Doc!
Thanks!
This would make an *EXCELLENT* model rr scene! Nice video(s). I seen one of the others you shot here.
Hofsan1 it does
Great vodep. Craig!
Thanks Tom!
Santa Fe Junction is literally on the Kansas City, Missouri / Kansas City, Kansas Border. You can see Union Station in the background. The tracks around Union Station are owned by the Kansas City Terminal Railway. All rail lines running through this maze of tracks are joint owners. This was done, so all rail lines were treated fairly, in access to Union Station and routing through KC. Just rail minutes away are the Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, KC Southern, Union Pacific rail yards and former yards of other lines. Years ago, the evening Amtrak line was on the lower level. The train was sent to a siding and crew had to flag traffic on Southwest Boulevard about 29th Street, to wait until they could get passage to Union Station. Several nights I had to wait for this train, while heading to my favorite Mexican restaurant.
Awesome....Love it there......
Thanks Dave! I love it here too. Not sure I could ever get tired of being there.
This would be a good way to get a pattern for building a model railroad layout for sure!!! Just "drone" the prototypical right-of-way you want to model.
It would be great to see how they turn the River Runner around in St. Louis as well. Love your vids
Thanks! I may have to take a trip across Missouri one of these days soon and see if I can't get it in St. Louis.
@@docgrommesh3567 I just found a video of the MRR turning on a wye in STL. ruclips.net/video/ALJOeuvPTyQ/видео.html
At 2:14 on the left side is an old rail roundhouse.
Amazing
The Missouri River Runner seems to operate with four baggage cars always (though it has no checked baggage service) On YT videos some years old, still with P42DC power, the train never had more than 4 cars. I heard that is because of PTC, which cannot detect short trains, is that true? I understand Amtrak has to add some dummy baggage cars on CN tracks to Carbondale as well, because PTC requires a minium number of axles.
Amtrak 448/449 runs with only 4 cars on PTC territory. Not sure.
And to think they do the turn around 2 times a day this is awesome footage
Nice drone view! Those trains look slower than molasses.
Nice video! Makes me wonder why they dont use a cab car, NPCU, or another locomotive on the end so they don't have to turn the whole train around?
Because there is plenty of room to turn the train. For the most part the only reason others use those things is because there is no way to turn the train. Also it is not worth the expense.
WOW! Lovely view. Lovely video. I wonder why YT recommended this video now! I didn't see so many junctions, especially diamond junctions, lots of train flyovers in one place. Drones are really useful, if we know how to use those, other than killing innocents. Great job!
Gr Britain Thu 26 Sept 2019 2210
I'm surprised they turn the whole train, in the UK the train would either have a power car at each end and unpowered coaches (cars) between - eg an old IC125/HST or like a modern MU eg class 800 be powered throughout the train. Why don't they just turn the loco and couple it to the other end of the stock?
All depends. Most commuter trains run a push-pull with power on one end and a control car on the other end. Some Amtrak runs, like the Downeaster and Cascades run a push-pull, but most all other Amtrak trains get turned.
A cab control equipped passenger car on the opposite end from the engine is used for many Amtrak commuter operations as Matthew Mello mentioned. Virtually all medium and long distance Amtrak trains are turned at each end of their route except for high-speed Acela trainsets given that they are equipped with a powercar on each end. This route between _Kansas City, Missouri_ and _St. Louis, Missouri_ is ~283 miles (~455 kilometres) one-way. That would be a relatively long distance to operate from a passenger coach cab control car. Passenger safety during grade crossing collisions during push-pull operations with a passenger coach leading has become a topic of concern and debate. The primary reason that passenger locomotives are not routinely uncoupled, turned independently, and then coupled to the opposite end, is that high-voltage HEP (Head End Power) cables connect the locomotive to the passenger coaches. This is necessary to distribute electrical power for lighting, heating, air conditioning, etc. Unlike with standard train air brake line hoses, road train crews usually don't ever mess with HEP cables for obvious safety reasons. These high current/high-voltage heavy power cables are best left connected long-term until it becomes absolutely necessary to break up the train.
Gosh,modern engineering. Years ago you had a turn table to turn an engine around, now you just use five square miles of land.
Do you even need to turn a train around anymore? In germany we have a locomotive at one end of the train and just a control cabin at the other. And that is largely beeing phased out for EMUs.
@@InLoveWithCities yes, because a we didn't incorporate such technology in these cars (and these budd cars are a bit old), and we still haven't done it for most Amtrak trains because their isn't such intense demand for new equipment (as the old stuff works and Amtrak doesn't make profit on most of it's lines so they don't want to throw out what they already have if it is relatively fine).
Personally, I think Amtrak needs a few upgrades in more than just it's locomotives.
cool video man! good music too! who does the music?
Seems like it would be easier to put an NPCU on 1 end of the train, much as is done with the "Cascades" & "Capitol Corridor" trains.
Awesome video! Great music with the video! Is the Amtrak train still on BNSF before it gets to ST Louis or does it come off another railroad?
Robbie Cain
IT IS UNION PACIFIC, EX MISSOURI PACIFIC!
IN KANSAS CITY MUCH TRACKAGE THAT IS RAN ON BY ALL THE LOCAL RAILROADS IS ACTUALLY THE KANSAS CITY TERMINAL RR!
AT ONE TIME BEFORE BANKRUPTCIES AND MERGERS THERE WERE 13 SEPARATE
RR COMPANIES OPERATING IN KANSAS CITY!
The music really takes away from the experience. Natural sound is best, even if it's the sound of the drone.
Lol you're crazy. The sound of the drone makes me nuts!
😮
wouldnt need to be turned round
as we are in UK there should ONLY be UK trains on here
ROB EVANS shut your bloody gob.
If you aren't able to be polite don't watch this.
NO TRESPASSING FOAMER TROLL.
Super irritating
train goes forward and backward// very boring