Ableton Live Drum Map tutorial (Getgood Drums in Ableton Live)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Ableton Live Drum Maps are possible. The Drum Rack in Ableton Live 9 is designed with EDM in mind. That is, the way an EDM producer would approach drums, adding samples to pads, which are usually one-shot samples. However, if you're approaching it from the perspective of a real drummer on a real drum kit, with plugins such as Getgood Drums or Superior Drummer, the Drum Rack isn't appropriate. This creates a problem, because the midi editor in Ableton Live is mapped to show the keyboard keys only. I don't know about you, but I can't remember if C1 or D#-1 is my kick drum, nor which key from B2-F#3 is the exact hi hat articulation I want. What I need is a drum map, much like you can easily create in Cubase. There is a way to do this in Ableton, its a bit clunky but once its done, you can save it for future recall.
In this video I'm using Getgood Drums Invasion through the free Kontakt player.
Absolutely a necessary video for ggd in ableton
Let em know! Get a bro featured 😂
It's 2024 and I can't believe ableton doesn't feature a drum map... no wait I can't believe there isn't a standard protocol in the DAW and VST industry to automatically create drum maps when loading a... wait no, I can't believe Drum libraries aren't automatically mapped to every drum machine... BACK TO CUBASE.
This is exactly what I was looking for, efficiently explained. Thank you!
Okay you've made my workflow a million times better. Take my like and sub my good sir.
You’re welcome, glad it helped!
this has been a huge problem for me in ableton for ages. thanks! I always end up putting the drums in on the roland, which is good, but im not a full time drummer so its been pretty limiting too
No worries. I’ve actually just finished a new Ableton drum video after a couple of years away from YT, I’m going to upload it in a week or so!
So very helpful! Thank you!
I'm a newbie to using Ableton, you're an absolute LIFE SAVER. Thank you!
No worries, glad it helped!
Thank you!!! Been trying to solve this for ages, just what I needed!
You’re welcome ☺️
Thank you so much, first timer in Ableton and this saved my ass. Gonna be a huge workflow improvement. Appreciate it man!
Thanks Zach. I hope to be returning to making videos soon, I have a few more Ableton tricks to show!
This is insane, I'm so glad you came up with this idea and more importantly that you shared with us, thanks a lot dude (y)
I can’t claim this as on original idea dude, I saw it years back on an old tutorial for another drum plugin but I couldn’t find it, so I thought I’d make my own with GGD
GGD Invasion. Good pick!
So glad I found this video.
Thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed to know
You’re welcome!
Thanks so much! Learning Ableton right now, your video helped immensely.
No problem Chris, glad it helped!
Exactly what i was looking for, thank you
You’re welcome!
Thank you for this video, this is life changing
I agree, it’s dumb stuff like this that really slows your creative workflow down. Having something you can save and recall and just start creating is essential for me
Good work that lad ;) thx
amazing
Perfect just what I needed
thanks a lot mate, exactly what i needed!!
Could also use this for keyswitches for other Kontakt libraries!
Jog my memory, are those midi notes to switch things like articulations etc?
@@t3tra_UK yup :D
Yeah, that would work then. I used to use trilian a lot and those key switches would always be in the -3 range or similar. Would be handy to have them mapped like this
looks like what im looking for thank you dude i was going insane
No worries, glad it helped
it was indeed time consuming but it did work. It's hell trying to fix the tiny little icons
actual lifesaver
Glad it helped!
MAD useful, thank you
No problems, glad it helped!
Thx mate !
Nice Tatami hat. Love BJJ
I like this hat so much I got another one for Christmas 😂
BRILLIANT ! You just earned a subscriber. Thanks so much for this.
No problem John. Glad you found it useful. I’m currently taking a break from making videos due to a house move but as soon as my studio is set back up in the new house, I’ll be back on the horse 👍🏻 thanks for watching
thank you, this is very helpful!
You’re welcome!
legend. thank you
Life saver thanks!
You’re welcome!
Thank you!
You’re welcome!
wow. thank you soooooo much!!!!
You’re welcome 👍🏻
Thank you so much for this sir it was incredibly helpful.
My pleasure
Amazing video, will defo implement it in my setup.
Rookie question: do you still get to write drums in one central piano roll in the Kontakt midi channel and have all the sounds routed out as separate audio channels?
Yes, this is what I was doing until I switched back to superior drummer (in fact I do the same thing with Superior). You basically end up with one midi channel, and numerous audio channels which broadly reflect your “drum mics”. Once I’m happy with the midi “performance” (I do lots of humanising for the stuff I’m working on at the minute), I record it as audio. I keep the midi as reference but from that point forward this audio tracks act like takes if I’d recorded a real drummer.
In Ableton you change the “input” of the audio channel to the “output” channel of kontakt (don’t use 1-2, I don’t know why, it just doesn’t work lol). Then turn the monitor on the audio channels to “in” and you should get the audio routed out from Kontakt
Hope that makes sense!
@@t3tra_UK Thanks for your help dude, I'll try it🤞
God bless you fam
You’re welcome
So you still can't drag a file from the midi packs in and have all the cymbals and kicks and snare line up correctly? It's weird the drums and snares will line up after you manually select all and drag the kick drum to right spot but then half the cymbals still won't line up and it sounds like dookie.
Good question, I’m not sure to be honest as I don’t use the midi packs. I’ll give it a try and get back to you, but in theory if the midi mapping is the same within the plugin, the midi files should still correspond to the correct drums/articulations. After all, a midi C1 note is still a midi C1 note, it’s just a labelling exercise
Thanks, but I figured it out. I was just trying to drag the files straight from my external hard drive onto a track and they didn't line up correctly. But when I do it the way you're supposed to through Kontakt they work fine. @@t3tra_UK
So i'm not sure if anyone is still reading the comments of this video. But this leaves one major hole, you can't EQ each drum part individually. If there is a way to do that, I would LOVE for someone to tell me.
Is there a way to change the order of the notes in the piano editor, later on? With some drum libraries, some notes are below the kick and some cymbal notes are all over the place. I want to sort it so it is nice and clean like kick, snare, tom 1, tom 2 etc...
I’m not at my computer right now, but I’m pretty sure you can click and drag the keychains (see 5:08) into the order that you want? If not, and you want it in the order that you describe, you’re best to make a custom map in your drum software so you assign the kick to C0, then the next note to the next hit you want. This is what I do with Superior as the articulations are all over the place, and like you I like to start from the kick and work up through the drums, through closed hats, open hats, rides and crashes etc
No idea how you figure all this stuff out...
Can you please make this downloadable?
I cant save with the name, just with "as a default preset". Why is this happening? Thanks
is this something someone could save and share as a rack?
Amazing tutorial!! But question! When you record MIDI from an edrum kit, it drops the midi notes wherever it wants, and then you have to remap it using the drum map every time you record? Is there a way to automate the remapping process?
I have no experience with E-drums, but as a possible workaround, could you note down which midi notes the E drums trigger, then create a custom mapping within the plugin?
I.e say you play your E drums, and the midi records as kick c0, snare d0, HiHat E2 etc. go into GGD into the mappings page, and manually input those values, and save the mapping as a custom map. It’s an extra step to load it but that should get you up and running?
Man I'm so lost. So frustrating trying to figure this out.
Follow it along step by step, it should work out for you
@@t3tra_UK Had to step away a few times and scream in to a pillow but I eventually got it. Thanks for the video!
Fun, isn’t it, mixing the joy of audio with the frustration of computers!
🙌
Where is the save button?
Ah, my big dumb face is in the way of it. It’s on the right hand side of the midi effect on the bottom bar
Thanks for this! I'm running live 11 and when I do this it's like the midi effect rack isn't passing midi to kontakt. I can see the right notes being triggered in piano roll but no sound. Any ideas?
Unfortunately no idea mate, I haven’t updated from live 9 because I fear change. There must be a fix for live 11 though
@@t3tra_UK Thanks, I'm sure it's something simple. Regardless, thanks for putting this video up.
@@t3tra_UK I ended up starting from scratch and everything worked fine!
😂 that’s nuts! But glad it worked out, enjoy writing drum parts at increased speeds!
@@t3tra_UK You really can upgrade i have droped my 10 version today.
11 is more robust and everything sound the same :) (on win 7)
I like this trick usually i use midi remapper a good little free plug-in but native ableton live it's better!
Another great things on 11 is the session drum is included free and beside it's an old packs it sound awesome! (and i own superior 3) plus you have collapsable mixer on session view for drums!
Why your drums show piano roll?
My drums don’t show it.
Hi, did you follow the tutorial?
hey man so this worked for me the first time around, but on opening again im not getting any sound when using the edit curser from ggd drum kit. any idea why this is happeneing?
Sorry man, genuinely no idea. I have had the odd occasion where for some reason it didn’t work, where I removed all devices and added them again, and it worked 🤷🏻♂️
Have you figured out how to set up the multi-outs alongside of this?
I did at one point and saved those settings, can’t remember how I did it though 😂 it was something to do with, ignoring channels 1 and 2 (so 1 out became 3, 2 out became 4) or something like that. It was a pain anyway
I have added the midi rack to the chain but my midi has not changed, is there anything I have done wrong?
Hard to say without seeing what you’re doing, did you follow it exactly?
same, did all the labeling, saved it, and went back to my editor, and all the keys shown for GGd are back to default keyboard
@@t3tra_UK anyway to contact you to figure out whats wrong on our end? I followed the video to a T and my editor rack doesnt have the saved labled keys made in the midi rack
Hmmm, I’ve no idea, the only thing I can think is that we’re maybe on different versions of Ableton?
Unfortunately my studio is currently disassembled due to a house move/baby, hence my lack of videos lately, so I can’t really check.
The one step some people miss as it’s quite a quick thing is to right click and press ‘show labels in midi editor’ or something like that. Sorry, don’t mean to imply you’ve missed a step it’s just difficult to know why it’s not working for you