These are even more obscure than what I expected. Some others for the list: high G and high F which i have only seen in one picture next to a metal Ab (similar in looks to the high Bb in this video). Come to think of it, even the Ab is rarer than hen’s teeth together with D and even sighting of the F bassetts are exceptional events. A mention of EEb, EEEb and BBBb would also be warranted as the first one is not really being made and the last two only exist as unique prototypes. The paperclip bass is also one that feels like a mythical creature.
High Gs are actually available! You can buy them from Martin Foag or Schwenk und Seggelke in German or Boehm system. I think I know the picture your are talking about and it is actually one of the Kalison Bbs next to a Selmer Metal Ab and a Selmer Eb. The octocontras weren’t included on this list because they were built as modern instruments. For the same reason I should not have included the C bass, but I did not know there were modern versions at the time of writing. There may also be a low G bass clarinet out there but I need to find more evidence first.
I have some photos I scraped off ebay of an ebony Moeck octave clarinet in Bb. Best I remember instrument was marketed as a learning instrument for children and has 3 keys, two on top, and one for the left pinky. The instrument looks to have exactly the same fingering as the Ripamonti chalumeau in Bb. Ripamonti lists their instrument as having a range of 2.5 octaves which is much larger then most chalumeau. Seeing as the bore looks the same as a piccolo clarinet im not sure what the distinction between the two is. As far as i know historic chalumeau have wider bores then clarinets. Would you consider any of these instrument to count as piccolo clarinets or is a more complete keywork system like those found on the Kalison required?
In my opinion, I think the bass clarinet is more of a tenor instrument than a bass instrument. The range matches cellos, trombones and euphoniums more than sting basses or tubas. The contras are more bass instruments and match the range of other bass instruments. Also, if we look at the saxophone family, you'll find that the soprano is in b flat, and the instrument on octave below that is the tenor. But for clarinet, the instrument one octave below the soprano is the bass.
@@ethancampbell9096 Absolutely not, bass clarinet very adequately fulfills the bass role. It's illogical that the bass is currently an octave below the soprano, that there's no tenor, and that there are two sopranos, so what we should do is rename the currently alto clarinet to a tenor, the Bb soprano to an alto, and the Eb soprano should be the actual soprano member of the family. These names would fit their ranges much better and would make so much more sense.
@@mymo_in_Bb Could go with the renaissance naming system like the recorders. Eb clarinet descant, Bb clarinet treble, Eb (alto) tenor, and keep the name for the Bb bass clarinet.
These are even more obscure than what I expected. Some others for the list: high G and high F which i have only seen in one picture next to a metal Ab (similar in looks to the high Bb in this video). Come to think of it, even the Ab is rarer than hen’s teeth together with D and even sighting of the F bassetts are exceptional events. A mention of EEb, EEEb and BBBb would also be warranted as the first one is not really being made and the last two only exist as unique prototypes. The paperclip bass is also one that feels like a mythical creature.
High Gs are actually available! You can buy them from Martin Foag or Schwenk und Seggelke in German or Boehm system. I think I know the picture your are talking about and it is actually one of the Kalison Bbs next to a Selmer Metal Ab and a Selmer Eb. The octocontras weren’t included on this list because they were built as modern instruments. For the same reason I should not have included the C bass, but I did not know there were modern versions at the time of writing. There may also be a low G bass clarinet out there but I need to find more evidence first.
Which operas by Mozart include clarinets in B natural, please?
I have some photos I scraped off ebay of an ebony Moeck octave clarinet in Bb. Best I remember instrument was marketed as a learning instrument for children and has 3 keys, two on top, and one for the left pinky. The instrument looks to have exactly the same fingering as the Ripamonti chalumeau in Bb. Ripamonti lists their instrument as having a range of 2.5 octaves which is much larger then most chalumeau. Seeing as the bore looks the same as a piccolo clarinet im not sure what the distinction between the two is. As far as i know historic chalumeau have wider bores then clarinets. Would you consider any of these instrument to count as piccolo clarinets or is a more complete keywork system like those found on the Kalison required?
I would consider those to be Chalumeau. They would need to have at least Albert system key work to be modern instruments in my opinion.
I'm still very angry that there is no tenor clarinet, and think the members of the clarinet family should be renamed to make more sense.
In my opinion, I think the bass clarinet is more of a tenor instrument than a bass instrument. The range matches cellos, trombones and euphoniums more than sting basses or tubas. The contras are more bass instruments and match the range of other bass instruments. Also, if we look at the saxophone family, you'll find that the soprano is in b flat, and the instrument on octave below that is the tenor. But for clarinet, the instrument one octave below the soprano is the bass.
@@ethancampbell9096
Absolutely not, bass clarinet very adequately fulfills the bass role.
It's illogical that the bass is currently an octave below the soprano, that there's no tenor, and that there are two sopranos, so what we should do is rename the currently alto clarinet to a tenor, the Bb soprano to an alto, and the Eb soprano should be the actual soprano member of the family. These names would fit their ranges much better and would make so much more sense.
@@ethancampbell9096 definitely more of a baritone instrument
Only bass clarinets with larger bores fulfill the bass role
@@mymo_in_Bb Could go with the renaissance naming system like the recorders. Eb clarinet descant, Bb clarinet treble, Eb (alto) tenor, and keep the name for the Bb bass clarinet.
I have a Mueller basset horn in F made by Selmer. Am restoring it now.
Wow that’s a rare horn!
I AM TEACHER THE CLARINET, THE VIDEO IS VERY GOOD 🙏👏👏👏.
Is there one in between the turkish G clarinet and the alto clarinet?
Yes, the basset horn in F and the alto clarinet in F.
So, just to be obnoxious, i think i might compose a piece for an ensemble of all these clarinets.
Then again, maybe not :/
you should
Did you?
I'm going to try with all modern clarinets.