The weird thing about story one is how the sister just laughs off his apparent obsession with seducing her character. Why is she not as weirded out as I am?
I’m reminded of a story I read on Reddit: New cashier working at a grocery store and is being trained by someone who has worked there for a while. It is now the night shift. Some guy puts a bunch of cans of vegetables on the belt stacked like a pyramid. As the older cashier rings the guy up, she removes cans one at a time until it is revealed that, behind the cans, the man has also let his junk out and had flopped it onto the conveyor belt. Without batting an eye the older cashier takes one of the cans and hammers down directly on his sausage, and he runs out screaming in pain. “You get the weird ones at this hour” says the older one without a hint of shock.
My problem with even entertaining the idea of letting the "that guy" from story 1 back is we already had a prior story about his antics. This is waaaaaaay past the point of "one more chance." He kept being a suicidal murderhobo with 20+ characters that all somehow had a thing for his sister. 3 red flags repeated over 20+ characters. THEN, he pulled this shit with the out-of-game behaviour of the drinking, calling the other players a slur, and exposing himself... all in addition to the typical (for him) in-game stuff. That's way past the point of being understanding, now you're just being a doormat for an abuser. His sister is an enabler and will say anything to excuse his bs so her opinion on how much he's sorry shouldn't be taken into account. She saw no issue with him being disruptive before and didn't here until the players yelled at him to cut the perverted bs out. Rather, I'd say he's gone for good and *she* has one more chance. If she brings up her brother playing even once, kick her. She's being manipulative. She might be a good roleplayer but that doesn't excuse it. You can find other people who are just as good without the baggage.
Yeah, they're way past the point where any reasonable group would've kicked both siblings out a long time ago. Even considering letting the sister back is a stretch. The fact that the other players have put up with them for so long tells me they have very low standards and are probably not that very well adjusted themselves.
"Lawful good paladins" acting more like Warhammer 40k Inquisitors who want to purge everything that is deemed "HERESY". Tieflings? DAEMONS! Magic? WITCHCRAFT!SORCERY! Believing in a different religion? ULTIMATE HERESY! 😂😂😂
I love how some DMs take the whole "nat 20" thing WAY too far. Like, sure, 9th level spells are powerful, but a 5% chance to completely destroy an entire plane of existence on a whim seems excessive.
AFAIK a Nat 20 just means "Whatever you do succeeds in the most plausible way" however obliterating an entire realm with asteroids that is controlled by a god seems like something the god would immediately put a stop to and smite the bastard responsible or try and hire them depending on the god.
Although I do agree that talking things out is preferable to just killing characters; the way the Paladin in the last story was hit with smite was oh so satisfying to hear.
I had something similar happen in story 3 Except in this case, my DM was playing a Tiefling and I was a human bard. Our problem player was playing a Paladin. Now the paladin has a HUGE crush on my bard, who is bubbly, likes to party, and gets super into performing music. This Paladin had been trying SO HARD to court her, as well as trying to "correct" her behavior. By that I mean trying to have her act more like a "lady" than someone who likes to party and have fun singing. The paladin had tried so dang hard to swoon her, but my bard wanted nothing to do with him romantically. She even said in character, "Look, I like you as a friend. But you are trying to pressure me into becoming something I don't want to be. I enjoy partying and singing." Basically me telling him to stop trying to change my character. There was a time the Party was desperate for money so my bard volunteered to do some performances at taverns and earn some cash. Of course the Paladin refused to let do something so "peasant" and decided he would take her to the nobility sections to basically "teach" her to be a proper lady and how to properly earn money. I was so annoyed. My character has a +9 in performance and could EASILY earn a ton of cash. Then came the moment I talked to my DM about Paladin's behavior. That I'm tired of them harassing my character. The DM did talk to the Paladin about it. Hopefully that was the end of it. Then the Paladin started to become very cruel to my character. stealing her instrument, insulting her by calling her very down grading names, and even tried convincing some NPCs that she would sleep with them for money. Luckily, my DM put a stop to that at once. Then came the blow up. There was a time my Bard got the chance to perform at an Opera House. This was her DREAM. Course Paladin perked up seeing she was doing something noble and not peasant like. It was going to take a lot of time and preparing for it. And thus, cue the DM's Tiefling. An Arcane Trickster Rogue/Collage of Eloquence Bard, we needed a rogue for an upcoming quest too btw. AKA: My bard's love interest. He was smart, charming, and also loved my bard's ways. Essentially, the story was that of a kin to Phantom of the Opera. He loved my bard for her personality and love for music. My bard fell head over heels in love. As she loved him for his love of music and his very charming personality. The Paladin was NOT happy about this, saying that he was a demon. Seeing that my character was falling for a demon. (Side note: This Tiefling was a pretty chill guy who wanted to play music and have fun too.) And went to find his hideout to end his life. Essentially, under the Opera House was the Tiefling's home. Meaning it was full of traps if you went too deep. The Paladin was a beefy tank, but by the time he got to the Tiefling's actual hideout, he lost 2/3 of his HP. He screamed, "How dare you take my lady's heart you monster!? You are corrupting her!" At this point, the DM would have the chance to knock him down a peg and say, "YOUR lady? Ha ha ha...I beg to differ. She's not your lady. She's no one's lady. She is a free spirit who enjoys the arts like me. She's told me how you try to change her into something she is not. Tsk tsk Mr. Paladin. If you didn't force yourself onto her, perhaps her and I didn't have sweet passionate love." He warned Paladin to leave his hideout, otherwise he will face justice. My DM looked him straight in the eye and said, "He is giving you the one chance to leave and turn your life around." Paladin instead wants to roll to attack. Instead, DM has him roll a DEX save. He fails. Tielfing activated a trap, and the Paladin was sent down a pit fall trap and took a lot of damage that killed him. He finally snapped and called the DM and me c*ckblocking him. lmao. My DM is actually gay and we both just love cheesy love stories. He left after that. lmao
Meh, the pitfall was kind of cheap. DM needs to quit power gaming. If the Paladin is able to woop the rouges ass and enslave you that's his prerogative. Coming up with traps like "turns out you were standing under a Boulder the entire time" is worse than letting the pally have his way.
@@archiehughes6203 Nah, I like it when the DM allows targeted players to fight back against stupid player BS. F* around, find out. Hate pushy bullies who think they can force you to play your character how THEY want.
With regards to the last story. I'm actually playing a peace cleric right now and it is an S tier subclass IF you're prepared to commit to playing as a pacifist white mage. Let's go through the perks 1) permanent access to useful support/ healing spells like greater restoration and sanctuary as well as useful utility spells like sending and telepathic bond. 2) Your main feature allows you to cast a concentration free bless that alao allows people to teleport in order to support each other. 3) A powerful channel divinity allowing you to move without opportunity attacks and heal anyone you pass by. Peace cleric is amazing if you want to play a full support mahe.
@@unluckyone1655 it's definitely really strong. The counterbalance, at least in my case is that if you're playing into the flavor and narrative of the domain you're pretty much locked into a support role. In other words, it's very strong but only if you lean into what it's designed for. I hope what I'm saying is making sense.
@amberblackwell5614 oh no, makes perfect sense. Going for total support/healbot, that's the perfect domain. Twilight is definitely versatile in that you can be either support or agro but because it's so balanced, you have to really pay attention to a situation or things will go south, fast lol.
@@unluckyone1655 For sure. Funnily enough, my cleric was almost twilight domain but in the process of making her she morphed to have a lot more focus on community and compassion rather than protection so I shifted to peace.
Loved the way the last story ended. I was sitting here, saying, "...and his own God would smite him down the second he tried to harm an innocent, if not making him completely powerless the second he revealed his judgemental, xenophobic nature..." and bam! Dude gets smote. Love it!
For the first story. The valid reasons are 1. Too keep your eye on him. 2. Ensure the safety of the sister. Buddies mentality might take a huge hit and i wouldn't put it past him to try something wrong. X.x
"People can change for better or for worse, the one thing we can't do is go back to who we used to be." You can always improve, but when you cross the line you'll always carry that baggage with you. If you've exposed yourself to your friends in that kinda way, you're always gonna have that hanging over your head, and they will always remember you for that one moment. If he has any self-respect he'd try to start fresh with some other group.
I remember the original brother-hitting-on-sister horror story. Are we sure they're actually blood relatives rather than step-siblings? The sister acting like the brother's flirtation is nothing...is weird. Most people would be absolutely grossed out, not to mention horribly embarrassed, at a sibling even halfway joking about sex with them -- if they grew up together. If they became 'siblings' only relatively recently then they wouldn't have that. --- Another story about a paladin trying to kill a player's tiefling just because? A thought struck me about this...this is the one concrete example of racism in the game. Players with good (alignment) tieflings who work for the benefit of others are attacked merely for existing by paladins who refuse to see the character as an individual. Those paladins hate the entire race because reasons. A true "lawful good" character wouldn't indiscriminately kill individuals for such superficial reasons. That's committing an extreme injustice. Paladins should have their alignment changed if they do. (or exploding into a pile of guts works too)
2nd ed. of the game was much harsher: if a Paladin changed to non-Lawful alignment, they had to seek atonement and complete a quest to restore their status as a Paladin. In the meantime, they had none of the features that make it a separate class, and functioned as Fighters. If they became evil-aligned, the loss of powers was permanent. No Oathbreaker, no Death Knight, just a subpar fighter, with expensive armor who has to buy a new horse because their Trusty Steed abandoned them. No Priest Spells, No Turn Undead, No Aura of Bravery, No Disease Resistance (a real hassle when the DM could afflict your character with cholera or bubonic plague), and No Smites. Nada, Nihil, Nix. Very few people played Paladins in the day, since they "weren't any fun".
Oh, we get a song by Lucky and a close up shot - that Kitty is a star and he knows it. That first story - wait what!!!??? Okay that's above my paygrade as a simple small town bird lawyer. I like how the DM handled problem player in the last one. Good for him.
The first story: I don't want to assume there's something actually going on out of game, but I genuinely have to ask why is this clown's sister ALLOWING all this? Why does she just laugh and joke about it? The fact that she just grins and says it's fine and doesn't see anything weird at ALL about it is the weirdest part, and I'm honestly shocked the rest of the table is just accepting her words at face-value instead of sitting her down and kicking her out too.
Yeah I immediately got the feeling that she's a weirdo too. Would very much suggest the group kick them both out and distance themselves from all that creepiness.
@@bopperstopper sometimes you dont recognize abuse, because youre so use to it. I wouldnt call her a weirdo. But I would say shes likely been exposed to things that she shouldnt have, as her younger sibling. TO be honest, i wish the group had more balls to say, what hes doing is weird. Because sometimes you dont realize youre not in a healthy relationship until people around you point it out.
@@ShinOpaque Exactly this. It makes you wonder how long she's been subjected to this that she doesn't bat an eye or think it's weird, and because he's not even trying to hide it any more. Edit: Just watched the first one. She's in college. That's a yikes from me
Getting accidentally drunk 1 time might be excusable, but he insisted on drinking more even after the other party members told him to lay off. The non consensual nudity is also not really excusable
That last story made me a bit angry, mostly because a character in a campaign I'm in actually has a wife who's both a Tiefling AND a Paladin, and that racist player got what he deserved. That DM clearly was done with him.
You do realize Tieflings aren't real right? Its so weird when people try to act like being racist towards D&D races is somehow reflective of real life racism. It feels like a weird redux of the satanic panic. Like D&D demons aren't real bruh.
9:40 I would allow him to stay on the following conditions: 1. He brings a medical note from a psychiatrist that he is sane, until then - he is not playing. 2. If he brings alcohol to the table, he isn't playing and isn't allowed to drink at the table either. If he comes to a game drunk, he isn't playing. If he cheats to break this rule, he will never play at this table again, no ifs or buts. 3. His every character from then on is cursed by the goddess of love, and if he ever tries to flirt with a woman who has rejected him once, he will take 1d10 lightning damage, no saves, overrides resistances and immunities, and if he persists, he will be incinerated. 4. Every time he creates a new character, he has to write a backstory that details how he received that curse. No incest or SA involved. 5. He is not allowed to play evil or chaotic characters, and if he acts outside non-evil and non-chaotic range of alignments, his character immediately leaves the party and becomes an NPC the DM will use as a minor villain, he must write a new one to participate. 6. If he acts indecent again, he will never play at this table again, no ifs or buts.
So apparently the group in the first story are playing with Yuri Briar? Emotionally unstable manchild who can’t hold his alcohol and has a clear crush on his own sister?! It’s hard for me to say how I’d handle it given we only have the information about what happened given secondhand from these stories. There’s part of me that wants to say let him back but make it clear this is his ABSOLUTE final chance, if he screws up this time he’s GONE! But at the same time, having a while ago having cut ties with my own emotionally unstable manchild and realising I gave him WAY more chances than I should have, I think that I might need to be stronger in my way of thinking, especially given just HOW bad their incident was!
What the hell is with all these players who seem to view 'paladin' as a synonym for 'inquisitor'? I mean, my relevant D&D experience was admittedly quite some time ago, and I've never played in a game with a paladin character, so I don't know how common this behavior actually is, but - holy crap, is it ever common in these stories. What is so difficult to understand about 'does not kill the innocent, regardless of who or what they may be'?
I sorta did the same thing in ESO. Basically my Templar (basically ESO's version of a Paladin) went on a full murderhobo spree against all heretics and daedric worshipping races.
For the first story my opinion is thus: even through in general I try to be as forgiving as possible and believe in second or 3rd chances, some things even if you are truely remorseful just can't be undone, I would definitely say exposing yourself to your friends is one of those situations. I would always feel uncomfortable around that player after they pulled something like that.
In the first story, that guy went full-on neckbeard. D&D sure seems to attract more than its share of socially stunted weirdos. If a drunk neckbeard whipped out his wrinkled pickle in my presence, I would probably laugh, but it would be a line-crossing activity, and I would never want to go anywhere near him again. If the group didn't kick him out, I would leave. We definitely needed the meowing cat to help counteract the revolting imagery that this story brings to mind. I've never had White Claw. I looked it up. It looks like the sort of low strength flavored rotgut that has always been popular with underage drinkers. These days, it's hard seltzer. Back in my day, it was wine coolers. Stuff like that doesn't appeal to me. How do you get drunk on weak, watered-down booze anyway? He must have been guzzling that swill as fast as he possibly could. When I drink, it's usually wine or liquor which ranges from 12% to around 65% ABV. I don't guzzle it, and I don't get drunk. Unfortunately, some people lack self control, and then they get drunk and do something disgusting. I hope his sister keeps him away from the booze in the future, and I really hope he never gets into the stronger stuff. I hate to imagine what would happen if he got into a bottle of cask strength whisky. He would probably guzzle the entire bottle, and then he would die of alcohol poisoning.
the paladin acted like a sister of battle from Warhammer 40k. that amount of hatred would be normal for a fanatical,bloodcrazed zealot towards a Tiefling.
Drunken Goblin was a funny story.. even though he was smashed out of the world what he did was basically provide his fellow players with AMMO that can be used over and over to remind him of what he did when drunk. Goblin starts to complain about stupid stuff.. DM "So what your gonna whip out your excalibur mini again?"
Honestly Doge, I don' know about the player in that first story. He sounds like kind of a toxic mess, not the worst such individual I've heard about on your channel, but enough that I have concerns. He is definitely not someone I would want at the same table as me. I do know that I'm sending your kitties headpats and boops though. 😺😺😺😺😺
Reminds me of a green text story where a GM came to a table where all three players thought it was normal to show your big candle IRL as a way to solve an inter-party conflict. They might've been all mildly drunk, I don't exactly remember.
1st story: If problem player is brought back in make it known about all his problems, not just the drinking issue. 3rd story: I honestly don't understand why people have this idea that people have to assume certain ideas that if you are this class and another person has this race equals I have to kill them just because. It's kinda old school of thinking.
The fun part about alcohol is that it breaks down the barrier of what you would never do openly. You see I find that getting a person drunk can help show a persons true self as they can't the little voice that makes their desires or true personality show to quiet down. So with that said I am pretty sure that deep down the dude in story one probably has a secret desire he keeps buried about wanting to do the horizontal mambo with his sister, after all the actions you take at the table in a fantasy game often can also reflect your deep desires and even behavior. It's sadly one reason why I feel we wind up seeing so many tales about murder hobos and willing performers of SA.
First story: No. The problem player doesn't get to play again, he has to _earn_ the right to play again. No murderhobo'ing, no creepy behavior, and no drunkenness. The group aren't his therapists and aren't responsible for keeping an eye on him. They have their own mental well-being and enjoyment to consider as well. Second Story: Looks like Luigi was into the "idea" of D&D, not the actual gameplay. He was probably trying to be cool like the influencers who tout their D&D experiences, hence why he was always on his phone. He just didn't want to admit his complete lack of knowledge about D&D. Third story: The Paladin was either deliberately bullying cleric's player, or just being a dick. Either way, good riddance and I hope he genuinely ends up seething for his kick. And I agree; this death deserves two paws up.
I love how narrativly the last story played out. As we all know the thing that defines Paladins besides being a generic sword user class, is the fact that they pledge to a God and often have to be morally good people. SO when this Paladin begins harrassing a player who's a friendly Tiefling Cleric, very poetic that when he eventually goes too far and tries to murder her, he's forsaken by his God who kills him and revives the Tiefling Cleric. Very poetic.
I have a story about a refused heal that still bothers me. I was in an ongoing campaign and we were facing a pretty major boss, basically a chapter end for this part of the story. Our paladin does a mad, reckless move on the big bad, and takes a serious amount of damage. As a cleric, my instinct was to run and heal, but OOC, she said don't, she has a plan. I didn't know what to do, but I acted out of character, and used my turn to attack instead of heal. When the Big Bad's turn came around? Total destruction. He hit her so hard she was unrecoverable. We were low level, so we didn't even have revivify, there was no way we could bring them back. I COULD have acted in character and just done the heal, maybe saving her, but I didn't. Between sessions, she messages on discord and says she's leaving the campaign, at least for a while, she won't roll up a new character. Nothing to do with us, it was just scheduling, I guess. I guess her plan was to not survive and go out with a bang. We did defeat the big bad anyway. In the end, it was a better end to the character than to survive and disappear, but I still get a twang of guilt about it.
On the case of the sword brander; I do think that if he is, *genuinely* sorry, and if he really is, going to stop drinking... ...Weird as he may be, one chance might be.... fine. But only the one, if he does anything else after that point, then yeah, kick him. But I am the kind of the variety that believes everyone deserves *one more chance*... u_u" Chad DM makes the Paladin pop like a zit, I love it.
My problem with that is we already had a prior story about his antics. This is waaaaaaay past the point of "one more chance." He kept being a suicidal murderhobo with 20+ characters that all somehow had a thing for his sister. 3 red flags repeated over 20+ characters. THEN, he pulled this shit with the out-of-game behaviour of the drinking, calling the other players a slur, and exposing himself... all in addition to the typical (for him) in-game stuff. That's way past the point of being understanding, now you're just being a doormat for an abuser. His sister is an enabler and will say anything to excuse his bs so her opinion on how much he's sorry shouldn't be taken into account. She saw no issue with him being disruptive before and didn't here until the players yelled at him to cut the perverted bs out.
@@TheMightyBattleSquid I haven't seen the other story yet. :^0 But yes, as I said in the clause, if he continues to (I guess he has) be a pain, he must be gone. Especially if this is the same group over and over again. Though in the case these are multiple groups, the fall is with the sister who condones this weird behavior... She needs to stop bringing him out... .... Buuuut, now it makes me wonder... I guess I should take a look before I say that last bit I'm thinking. Oh no.
I drink and play.... just make sure I don't get too silly to play decently... other friends of mine do likewise, the key is moderation and knowing your own limits.
Kudos to that last DM. I have to wonder if there was an out of game dislike the paladin had for the new player and used the whole she's a Tiefling bit as an immature way of trying to get them to leave.
At this point, both sister and brother should both go. Shes nothing but an enabler for her brother and letting him back in will only be an ok for him to continue this. It doesnt matter if shes a good roleplayer or not, either he goes or theyre both not welcome back. Apologies are just currency for behavior like this to this kind of person. Im sorry, but this guy needs professional help and its not fair to put that burden on a ttrpg group to be free replacement therapy.
Story #! - Could go either way on this one, I think it'd be up to the group themselves. Since he has a close relative there who'll be keeping a close eye on him, that is a point in his favor. Personally I'd say. allow him back, but under very strict guidelines. No drinking or substances is top of the list, but it should be clear that ANY anti-social behavior will be grounds for permanent ejection. No tap-backs, no new chances, no excuses. Story #2 - Should have just kicked Luigi early on. If he wouldn't listen to advice, and would rather mess with his phone than play, then why is he there? Story #3 - Paladin had it coming. If he wanted to play someone who starts out distrusting Teiflings, that MIGHT be acceptable in a lot of groups. But he took things way too far, and paid for it very appropriately, imo.
Okay! Story #1 has me very concerned, especially since the problem player is like REALLY intent on hitting and flittering with his sister.....😕.....I want to say he should talk to someone about this but I feel like I'm reading to much into it, but I also feel even more concerned especially with the sister not being harsher in telling her brother to quiet it. Even if she thought her bros flirts and whatnot were joking, its still a weird and creepy thing that would make me feel uncomfortable. Also I have a strong no alcohol rule at my table. i have seen TOO many problems that come from it, that I put right say no when the mention of beer or wine, or anything else I'd even suggested.
Yeah that story number 1 has a lot of things left unsaid I would say. I've been wrong about stuff before but there is absolutely no way that there isn't a different sort of relationship between them. It's just to strange way to react and defend.
Kudos to op in the 1st story for at least seeing that the dude might need some help. I had a friend like that I was trying to help out because his parents were abusive and being normal was only something he could do in bursts. However IF you do take him back, he would have to be on permanent parole. I've been hammered many times and never whipped it out. Or hit on my sister. I think......
First story :... He showed his WHAT?!!! To his defense he was drunk, but still... damn. Also he's an idiot if he seriously thought he could kill a god. Though even if he had succeeded I doubt the paladin would have appreciated. "Oh, you killed the being I worship and devoted my life to it, sure, I'll sleep with you now." Dumbass Last story annoys me. Why are there so many idiotic lawful stupid paladin players who think Tiefling are all demonic and evil?! They do realize that's a stereotype for villains and not heroes, right? The whole point of Tiefling is that they don't have to follow the step of their parents!
Exposing yourself while drunk is just pathetic, exposing yourself while drunk in an attempt to seduce YOUR SISTER in front of strangers is beyond creepy and grounds for being institutionalized.
In that first story, I'm less bothered by him exposing himself than I am by the (apparently) months-long creeping on his own sister. If it had been only 1 of his characters, I would have written it off as creepy, but whatever. But Every. Single. Character. He. Plays? No. That's some hardcore bleed. Even if his sister has convinced herself that he doesn't mean anything by it, no one else should be convinced. He wants to get with his own sister- nothing will convince me otherwise after everything he's done, especially after exposing himself in response to the sister's joke. In vino, veritas.
I think the dude that exposed himself mighta thought he was playing the wrong game. Maybe Pokémon or Yu Gi Oh. “I place my Trouser Snake in attack position and end my turn.” 😂
There is literally no reason to let someone who does not have some kind of developmental issues stay at yojr game table after EXPOSING THEMSELVES! Being a drunken asshole doesn't cut it.
Ah ha yugi youve activated my trap card. What do you play kaiba? I play the one eyed white dragon yugi! The what kaiba you mean blue eyes white dragon? No yugi I mean my penis! Slamming noises intensify... go home kaiba youre drunk. Im drunk on Power!
Why? Are? All? Of? The? DMs? In? Most? Horror? Stories? Too? Weak? To? Kick? Problem? Players? As a forever DM (who prefers that because D&D is one of the worst games I have ever played but DMing is a breeze), WAY TOO MANY DMs like to be too afraid for kicking players from their table. If more DMs knew how to grow a pair then there'd be much less issues with problem players and thus fewer horror stories. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a DM that is NOT so cowardly to kick problem POS's from my table. Not every DM has a spine. Then again, if you don't have a spine, then you have no place running a campaign.
Tbf i would let him (guy from 1 story) stay if every one else don't mind. I also feel sorry for his sister since if he's band she probably will force herself to also leave. I mean i watched hundreds of horror stories and this guy is rather harmless in comparison.
To be fair, the feywild stands no chance against a drunk, angry and rejected wizard. I'm pretty sure in all the religions of our world that story must exist. If not, it SHOULD!
First story- thats a form of sexual harassment, no way around it. It made everyone at the table (but he and his sister) very uncomfortable. That alone is enough for me to kick them from the table. Its pretty obvious he has serious boundary issues, and that his sister has covered for him too many times. Kick him, kick her if you need to. He needs to endure consequences and she needs to hit her last straw with enabling him. Edit: fixed term
I remember 1 other story where ppl were arguing over who would be party leader so one guy whipped it out saying I have the biggest dong so I'm the leader XD
First Story: is anyone else seeing red flags? Because i am seeing less red flags in Communist China? And i wrote this before the pecker came out. I am thinking this is more than just flirting with his sister's charecter, and maybe is into some sis con. He needs therapy. If he comes back in the game, its after he gets a therapist. 2nd story: love it when the ones that say you should grow up cannot act like a grown up. This is noob behaveior and not newb behavior. 3rd story: i hate these lawful stupids! I get it, racism is a thing, and that is half the point of playing a teifling is to battle the injustice of it all. But Paladin's antics are just baffling. Also why didn't he dod the detect good and evil thing paladins get? If nothing else but to prove a point, and have that backfire completly. This is...just...bull. it was justified for him to get kicked, but i am guessing this had gone on long enough for the DM to need to talk privatly with him
I cant stand players who say "play this subclass only or else your bad." I get a lot of flack for playing a drakewarden ranger with mostly flavor choices on my character. And not doing gloomstalker. "B.c its actually good and you can do over 100 dmg in a round". Zzzz boring.
For the first story, that guy needs therapy. I'd be overly concerned with his need to try and seduce his sister's character versus anyone else's. I know that the characters they're playing aren't related, but it still feels way too incestuous. It just makes me think that he's got some skeletons that he needs to work out.
The weird thing about story one is how the sister just laughs off his apparent obsession with seducing her character. Why is she not as weirded out as I am?
Because she is from Alabama...
she doesn't want her brother to be a sister fister
@@Odin_AllvaterOr West Virginia. They're as bad as Alabama.
@@Elyseon Are they ? I dont live in the US
Honestly, I feel like her final burst happened not because she had a problem with what's happened, but because everyone else did
THAT DUDE WAS GIVEN TOO MANY CHANCES! WHEN YOU SEE HIM WHIP IT OUT, YOU NEED TO KICK HIM OUT!😤
I’m reminded of a story I read on Reddit:
New cashier working at a grocery store and is being trained by someone who has worked there for a while. It is now the night shift. Some guy puts a bunch of cans of vegetables on the belt stacked like a pyramid. As the older cashier rings the guy up, she removes cans one at a time until it is revealed that, behind the cans, the man has also let his junk out and had flopped it onto the conveyor belt.
Without batting an eye the older cashier takes one of the cans and hammers down directly on his sausage, and he runs out screaming in pain.
“You get the weird ones at this hour” says the older one without a hint of shock.
I bite it
That's my rule. Whip it out, kick em out...
@@Phoenix8492I think I read it off of "Not Always Right," or maybe heard it on ProRevengeTales, me.
"WHEN YOU SEE HIM WHIP IT OUT, YOU NEED TO KICK HIM OUT!"
i need this on a t-shirt
"He thlammed his penith on the table"
My problem with even entertaining the idea of letting the "that guy" from story 1 back is we already had a prior story about his antics. This is waaaaaaay past the point of "one more chance." He kept being a suicidal murderhobo with 20+ characters that all somehow had a thing for his sister. 3 red flags repeated over 20+ characters. THEN, he pulled this shit with the out-of-game behaviour of the drinking, calling the other players a slur, and exposing himself... all in addition to the typical (for him) in-game stuff. That's way past the point of being understanding, now you're just being a doormat for an abuser. His sister is an enabler and will say anything to excuse his bs so her opinion on how much he's sorry shouldn't be taken into account. She saw no issue with him being disruptive before and didn't here until the players yelled at him to cut the perverted bs out. Rather, I'd say he's gone for good and *she* has one more chance. If she brings up her brother playing even once, kick her. She's being manipulative. She might be a good roleplayer but that doesn't excuse it. You can find other people who are just as good without the baggage.
Took the words right out of my mouth
Yeah, they're way past the point where any reasonable group would've kicked both siblings out a long time ago. Even considering letting the sister back is a stretch. The fact that the other players have put up with them for so long tells me they have very low standards and are probably not that very well adjusted themselves.
I can see kicking the dick whipper but his sister? That seems a bit harsh.
"Lawful good" murderhobos really are their own category of "D&D (Horror/Humor) Trope".
"Lawful good paladins" acting more like Warhammer 40k Inquisitors who want to purge everything that is deemed "HERESY". Tieflings? DAEMONS! Magic? WITCHCRAFT!SORCERY! Believing in a different religion? ULTIMATE HERESY! 😂😂😂
I love how some DMs take the whole "nat 20" thing WAY too far. Like, sure, 9th level spells are powerful, but a 5% chance to completely destroy an entire plane of existence on a whim seems excessive.
I think for me, the 20 would have gotten the god's direct attention and they confront the player personally
AFAIK a Nat 20 just means "Whatever you do succeeds in the most plausible way" however obliterating an entire realm with asteroids that is controlled by a god seems like something the god would immediately put a stop to and smite the bastard responsible or try and hire them depending on the god.
The paladin in the last story fucked around and found out. You love it.
Although I do agree that talking things out is preferable to just killing characters; the way the Paladin in the last story was hit with smite was oh so satisfying to hear.
Well deserved. Total pos.
I swear c!@# players are drawn like magnets to the paladin and rogue classes. XD
And Warlock 😂
I had something similar happen in story 3
Except in this case, my DM was playing a Tiefling and I was a human bard. Our problem player was playing a Paladin.
Now the paladin has a HUGE crush on my bard, who is bubbly, likes to party, and gets super into performing music. This Paladin had been trying SO HARD to court her, as well as trying to "correct" her behavior. By that I mean trying to have her act more like a "lady" than someone who likes to party and have fun singing. The paladin had tried so dang hard to swoon her, but my bard wanted nothing to do with him romantically.
She even said in character, "Look, I like you as a friend. But you are trying to pressure me into becoming something I don't want to be. I enjoy partying and singing." Basically me telling him to stop trying to change my character. There was a time the Party was desperate for money so my bard volunteered to do some performances at taverns and earn some cash. Of course the Paladin refused to let do something so "peasant" and decided he would take her to the nobility sections to basically "teach" her to be a proper lady and how to properly earn money. I was so annoyed. My character has a +9 in performance and could EASILY earn a ton of cash.
Then came the moment I talked to my DM about Paladin's behavior. That I'm tired of them harassing my character. The DM did talk to the Paladin about it. Hopefully that was the end of it. Then the Paladin started to become very cruel to my character. stealing her instrument, insulting her by calling her very down grading names, and even tried convincing some NPCs that she would sleep with them for money. Luckily, my DM put a stop to that at once.
Then came the blow up.
There was a time my Bard got the chance to perform at an Opera House. This was her DREAM. Course Paladin perked up seeing she was doing something noble and not peasant like. It was going to take a lot of time and preparing for it. And thus, cue the DM's Tiefling. An Arcane Trickster Rogue/Collage of Eloquence Bard, we needed a rogue for an upcoming quest too btw. AKA: My bard's love interest. He was smart, charming, and also loved my bard's ways. Essentially, the story was that of a kin to Phantom of the Opera. He loved my bard for her personality and love for music. My bard fell head over heels in love. As she loved him for his love of music and his very charming personality.
The Paladin was NOT happy about this, saying that he was a demon. Seeing that my character was falling for a demon. (Side note: This Tiefling was a pretty chill guy who wanted to play music and have fun too.) And went to find his hideout to end his life. Essentially, under the Opera House was the Tiefling's home. Meaning it was full of traps if you went too deep. The Paladin was a beefy tank, but by the time he got to the Tiefling's actual hideout, he lost 2/3 of his HP. He screamed, "How dare you take my lady's heart you monster!? You are corrupting her!"
At this point, the DM would have the chance to knock him down a peg and say, "YOUR lady? Ha ha ha...I beg to differ. She's not your lady. She's no one's lady. She is a free spirit who enjoys the arts like me. She's told me how you try to change her into something she is not. Tsk tsk Mr. Paladin. If you didn't force yourself onto her, perhaps her and I didn't have sweet passionate love." He warned Paladin to leave his hideout, otherwise he will face justice.
My DM looked him straight in the eye and said, "He is giving you the one chance to leave and turn your life around."
Paladin instead wants to roll to attack.
Instead, DM has him roll a DEX save. He fails.
Tielfing activated a trap, and the Paladin was sent down a pit fall trap and took a lot of damage that killed him.
He finally snapped and called the DM and me c*ckblocking him. lmao. My DM is actually gay and we both just love cheesy love stories. He left after that. lmao
good freakin' lord lol
@@jacksparrowismydaddy Yeah. It was pretty bad. lol
Meh, the pitfall was kind of cheap. DM needs to quit power gaming. If the Paladin is able to woop the rouges ass and enslave you that's his prerogative. Coming up with traps like "turns out you were standing under a Boulder the entire time" is worse than letting the pally have his way.
@@archiehughes6203 Nah, I like it when the DM allows targeted players to fight back against stupid player BS. F* around, find out. Hate pushy bullies who think they can force you to play your character how THEY want.
@@archiehughes6203 Found the paladin incel.
With regards to the last story. I'm actually playing a peace cleric right now and it is an S tier subclass IF you're prepared to commit to playing as a pacifist white mage. Let's go through the perks 1) permanent access to useful support/ healing spells like greater restoration and sanctuary as well as useful utility spells like sending and telepathic bond. 2) Your main feature allows you to cast a concentration free bless that alao allows people to teleport in order to support each other. 3) A powerful channel divinity allowing you to move without opportunity attacks and heal anyone you pass by. Peace cleric is amazing if you want to play a full support mahe.
Honestly peace domain practically rivals twilight with how broke it can be
@@unluckyone1655 it's definitely really strong. The counterbalance, at least in my case is that if you're playing into the flavor and narrative of the domain you're pretty much locked into a support role. In other words, it's very strong but only if you lean into what it's designed for. I hope what I'm saying is making sense.
@amberblackwell5614 oh no, makes perfect sense. Going for total support/healbot, that's the perfect domain. Twilight is definitely versatile in that you can be either support or agro but because it's so balanced, you have to really pay attention to a situation or things will go south, fast lol.
@@unluckyone1655 For sure. Funnily enough, my cleric was almost twilight domain but in the process of making her she morphed to have a lot more focus on community and compassion rather than protection so I shifted to peace.
@amberblackwell5614 I picked twilight because the rest of my group tends to mostly pick glass cannon casters and barbarians lol
Loved the way the last story ended. I was sitting here, saying, "...and his own God would smite him down the second he tried to harm an innocent, if not making him completely powerless the second he revealed his judgemental, xenophobic nature..." and bam! Dude gets smote. Love it!
For the first story.
The valid reasons are
1. Too keep your eye on him.
2. Ensure the safety of the sister.
Buddies mentality might take a huge hit and i wouldn't put it past him to try something wrong. X.x
"People can change for better or for worse, the one thing we can't do is go back to who we used to be." You can always improve, but when you cross the line you'll always carry that baggage with you. If you've exposed yourself to your friends in that kinda way, you're always gonna have that hanging over your head, and they will always remember you for that one moment. If he has any self-respect he'd try to start fresh with some other group.
I remember the original brother-hitting-on-sister horror story. Are we sure they're actually blood relatives rather than step-siblings? The sister acting like the brother's flirtation is nothing...is weird. Most people would be absolutely grossed out, not to mention horribly embarrassed, at a sibling even halfway joking about sex with them -- if they grew up together. If they became 'siblings' only relatively recently then they wouldn't have that.
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Another story about a paladin trying to kill a player's tiefling just because?
A thought struck me about this...this is the one concrete example of racism in the game. Players with good (alignment) tieflings who work for the benefit of others are attacked merely for existing by paladins who refuse to see the character as an individual. Those paladins hate the entire race because reasons. A true "lawful good" character wouldn't indiscriminately kill individuals for such superficial reasons. That's committing an extreme injustice. Paladins should have their alignment changed if they do. (or exploding into a pile of guts works too)
2nd ed. of the game was much harsher: if a Paladin changed to non-Lawful alignment, they had to seek atonement and complete a quest to restore their status as a Paladin. In the meantime, they had none of the features that make it a separate class, and functioned as Fighters. If they became evil-aligned, the loss of powers was permanent. No Oathbreaker, no Death Knight, just a subpar fighter, with expensive armor who has to buy a new horse because their Trusty Steed abandoned them. No Priest Spells, No Turn Undead, No Aura of Bravery, No Disease Resistance (a real hassle when the DM could afflict your character with cholera or bubonic plague), and No Smites. Nada, Nihil, Nix.
Very few people played Paladins in the day, since they "weren't any fun".
Dude that guy and his sister definitely knocked boots once or twice and his sister isn't allowing it anymore but he can't get enough.
I guess she grew up and this dude...*didn't*
I didn't want to believe you, but hearing how she acted, 100 percent they've banged and he wants more
Based
Oh, we get a song by Lucky and a close up shot - that Kitty is a star and he knows it.
That first story - wait what!!!??? Okay that's above my paygrade as a simple small town bird lawyer.
I like how the DM handled problem player in the last one. Good for him.
That Tiefling Cleric tale was a Glory Story imho. Toss a coin for a good DM.
The first story: I don't want to assume there's something actually going on out of game, but I genuinely have to ask why is this clown's sister ALLOWING all this? Why does she just laugh and joke about it? The fact that she just grins and says it's fine and doesn't see anything weird at ALL about it is the weirdest part, and I'm honestly shocked the rest of the table is just accepting her words at face-value instead of sitting her down and kicking her out too.
Yeah I immediately got the feeling that she's a weirdo too. Would very much suggest the group kick them both out and distance themselves from all that creepiness.
@@bopperstopper sometimes you dont recognize abuse, because youre so use to it. I wouldnt call her a weirdo. But I would say shes likely been exposed to things that she shouldnt have, as her younger sibling. TO be honest, i wish the group had more balls to say, what hes doing is weird. Because sometimes you dont realize youre not in a healthy relationship until people around you point it out.
@@ShinOpaque Exactly this. It makes you wonder how long she's been subjected to this that she doesn't bat an eye or think it's weird, and because he's not even trying to hide it any more.
Edit: Just watched the first one. She's in college. That's a yikes from me
Getting accidentally drunk 1 time might be excusable, but he insisted on drinking more even after the other party members told him to lay off. The non consensual nudity is also not really excusable
That last story made me a bit angry, mostly because a character in a campaign I'm in actually has a wife who's both a Tiefling AND a Paladin, and that racist player got what he deserved. That DM clearly was done with him.
You do realize Tieflings aren't real right? Its so weird when people try to act like being racist towards D&D races is somehow reflective of real life racism. It feels like a weird redux of the satanic panic. Like D&D demons aren't real bruh.
9:40 I would allow him to stay on the following conditions:
1. He brings a medical note from a psychiatrist that he is sane, until then - he is not playing.
2. If he brings alcohol to the table, he isn't playing and isn't allowed to drink at the table either. If he comes to a game drunk, he isn't playing. If he cheats to break this rule, he will never play at this table again, no ifs or buts.
3. His every character from then on is cursed by the goddess of love, and if he ever tries to flirt with a woman who has rejected him once, he will take 1d10 lightning damage, no saves, overrides resistances and immunities, and if he persists, he will be incinerated.
4. Every time he creates a new character, he has to write a backstory that details how he received that curse. No incest or SA involved.
5. He is not allowed to play evil or chaotic characters, and if he acts outside non-evil and non-chaotic range of alignments, his character immediately leaves the party and becomes an NPC the DM will use as a minor villain, he must write a new one to participate.
6. If he acts indecent again, he will never play at this table again, no ifs or buts.
So apparently the group in the first story are playing with Yuri Briar? Emotionally unstable manchild who can’t hold his alcohol and has a clear crush on his own sister?!
It’s hard for me to say how I’d handle it given we only have the information about what happened given secondhand from these stories. There’s part of me that wants to say let him back but make it clear this is his ABSOLUTE final chance, if he screws up this time he’s GONE! But at the same time, having a while ago having cut ties with my own emotionally unstable manchild and realising I gave him WAY more chances than I should have, I think that I might need to be stronger in my way of thinking, especially given just HOW bad their incident was!
That first story screams some incestuous teasing between the two and if not more.
I think you said it best with "Dude. What the actual fuck."
What the hell is with all these players who seem to view 'paladin' as a synonym for 'inquisitor'? I mean, my relevant D&D experience was admittedly quite some time ago, and I've never played in a game with a paladin character, so I don't know how common this behavior actually is, but - holy crap, is it ever common in these stories. What is so difficult to understand about 'does not kill the innocent, regardless of who or what they may be'?
Blame all the edgelord 40K fanboys and religious lunatics who wish the crusades were still a thing.
I sorta did the same thing in ESO. Basically my Templar (basically ESO's version of a Paladin) went on a full murderhobo spree against all heretics and daedric worshipping races.
@@Elyseon Nah I'm an atheist and I LOVE playing fanatical inquisitor types going full murderhobo on heretics.
Events that make me wish I could cast fireball Irl.
Wouldn't you get charged with murder/arson for what you're implying to have done?
@@nintendoboy3605 What are they going to do? arrest me? I can cast fireball.
For the first story my opinion is thus: even through in general I try to be as forgiving as possible and believe in second or 3rd chances, some things even if you are truely remorseful just can't be undone, I would definitely say exposing yourself to your friends is one of those situations. I would always feel uncomfortable around that player after they pulled something like that.
In the first story, that guy went full-on neckbeard. D&D sure seems to attract more than its share of socially stunted weirdos. If a drunk neckbeard whipped out his wrinkled pickle in my presence, I would probably laugh, but it would be a line-crossing activity, and I would never want to go anywhere near him again. If the group didn't kick him out, I would leave. We definitely needed the meowing cat to help counteract the revolting imagery that this story brings to mind.
I've never had White Claw. I looked it up. It looks like the sort of low strength flavored rotgut that has always been popular with underage drinkers. These days, it's hard seltzer. Back in my day, it was wine coolers. Stuff like that doesn't appeal to me. How do you get drunk on weak, watered-down booze anyway? He must have been guzzling that swill as fast as he possibly could. When I drink, it's usually wine or liquor which ranges from 12% to around 65% ABV. I don't guzzle it, and I don't get drunk. Unfortunately, some people lack self control, and then they get drunk and do something disgusting. I hope his sister keeps him away from the booze in the future, and I really hope he never gets into the stronger stuff. I hate to imagine what would happen if he got into a bottle of cask strength whisky. He would probably guzzle the entire bottle, and then he would die of alcohol poisoning.
That so-called paladin was trash and I'm glad the DM had the spine to punish him accordingly.
the paladin acted like a sister of battle from Warhammer 40k.
that amount of hatred would be normal for a fanatical,bloodcrazed zealot towards a Tiefling.
Drunken Goblin was a funny story.. even though he was smashed out of the world what he did was basically provide his fellow players with AMMO that can be used over and over to remind him of what he did when drunk. Goblin starts to complain about stupid stuff.. DM "So what your gonna whip out your excalibur mini again?"
Next time he he whips his tic tac out, i think it’s permissible to hit it with full force
Kick the whip it out guy that’s actually a crime he’s should be getting arrested not given another chance
Honestly Doge, I don' know about the player in that first story. He sounds like kind of a toxic mess, not the worst such individual I've heard about on your channel, but enough that I have concerns. He is definitely not someone I would want at the same table as me.
I do know that I'm sending your kitties headpats and boops though. 😺😺😺😺😺
Reminds me of a green text story where a GM came to a table where all three players thought it was normal to show your big candle IRL as a way to solve an inter-party conflict. They might've been all mildly drunk, I don't exactly remember.
1st story: If problem player is brought back in make it known about all his problems, not just the drinking issue.
3rd story: I honestly don't understand why people have this idea that people have to assume certain ideas that if you are this class and another person has this race equals I have to kill them just because. It's kinda old school of thinking.
im wondering if the guy from story one has a undisclosed to the table mental disabilty it seems like it the way the sister acts
The flashing, even while drunk, is gonna be what everyone remembers you for anyways so a second chance wouldn't be fair to any party.
The fun part about alcohol is that it breaks down the barrier of what you would never do openly. You see I find that getting a person drunk can help show a persons true self as they can't the little voice that makes their desires or true personality show to quiet down. So with that said I am pretty sure that deep down the dude in story one probably has a secret desire he keeps buried about wanting to do the horizontal mambo with his sister, after all the actions you take at the table in a fantasy game often can also reflect your deep desires and even behavior. It's sadly one reason why I feel we wind up seeing so many tales about murder hobos and willing performers of SA.
Secret? Doesn't seem so secret when everyone but the sister has openly brought it up by this point.
'In Vino Veritas' and D&D can have much the same effect.
Okay, that last story I didn't put the connection when they described it but after the TLDR I am laughing my head off, that is just PERFECT XD
First story: No. The problem player doesn't get to play again, he has to _earn_ the right to play again. No murderhobo'ing, no creepy behavior, and no drunkenness. The group aren't his therapists and aren't responsible for keeping an eye on him. They have their own mental well-being and enjoyment to consider as well.
Second Story: Looks like Luigi was into the "idea" of D&D, not the actual gameplay. He was probably trying to be cool like the influencers who tout their D&D experiences, hence why he was always on his phone. He just didn't want to admit his complete lack of knowledge about D&D.
Third story: The Paladin was either deliberately bullying cleric's player, or just being a dick. Either way, good riddance and I hope he genuinely ends up seething for his kick. And I agree; this death deserves two paws up.
I've suggested a few times that Doge dress up as an Aralez for the Halloween and Christmas seasons.
The exposing player was only implementing his “Fury of the Small” feat of his character 😂
"Beer that worst of all evils, makes some men fools, some beasts, and some devils." - Ben Franklin
I love how narrativly the last story played out. As we all know the thing that defines Paladins besides being a generic sword user class, is the fact that they pledge to a God and often have to be morally good people. SO when this Paladin begins harrassing a player who's a friendly Tiefling Cleric, very poetic that when he eventually goes too far and tries to murder her, he's forsaken by his God who kills him and revives the Tiefling Cleric. Very poetic.
I have a story about a refused heal that still bothers me. I was in an ongoing campaign and we were facing a pretty major boss, basically a chapter end for this part of the story. Our paladin does a mad, reckless move on the big bad, and takes a serious amount of damage. As a cleric, my instinct was to run and heal, but OOC, she said don't, she has a plan. I didn't know what to do, but I acted out of character, and used my turn to attack instead of heal. When the Big Bad's turn came around? Total destruction. He hit her so hard she was unrecoverable. We were low level, so we didn't even have revivify, there was no way we could bring them back. I COULD have acted in character and just done the heal, maybe saving her, but I didn't.
Between sessions, she messages on discord and says she's leaving the campaign, at least for a while, she won't roll up a new character. Nothing to do with us, it was just scheduling, I guess. I guess her plan was to not survive and go out with a bang. We did defeat the big bad anyway. In the end, it was a better end to the character than to survive and disappear, but I still get a twang of guilt about it.
On the case of the sword brander; I do think that if he is, *genuinely* sorry, and if he really is, going to stop drinking... ...Weird as he may be, one chance might be.... fine. But only the one, if he does anything else after that point, then yeah, kick him. But I am the kind of the variety that believes everyone deserves *one more chance*... u_u"
Chad DM makes the Paladin pop like a zit, I love it.
My problem with that is we already had a prior story about his antics. This is waaaaaaay past the point of "one more chance." He kept being a suicidal murderhobo with 20+ characters that all somehow had a thing for his sister. 3 red flags repeated over 20+ characters. THEN, he pulled this shit with the out-of-game behaviour of the drinking, calling the other players a slur, and exposing himself... all in addition to the typical (for him) in-game stuff. That's way past the point of being understanding, now you're just being a doormat for an abuser. His sister is an enabler and will say anything to excuse his bs so her opinion on how much he's sorry shouldn't be taken into account. She saw no issue with him being disruptive before and didn't here until the players yelled at him to cut the perverted bs out.
@@TheMightyBattleSquid I haven't seen the other story yet. :^0 But yes, as I said in the clause, if he continues to (I guess he has) be a pain, he must be gone. Especially if this is the same group over and over again.
Though in the case these are multiple groups, the fall is with the sister who condones this weird behavior... She needs to stop bringing him out...
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Buuuut, now it makes me wonder... I guess I should take a look before I say that last bit I'm thinking. Oh no.
I bet that the paladin from the last story tell as if "I got kicked out by the DM for playing my character right"
Oh that first story!
Thanks for the shield, Lucky
I drink and play.... just make sure I don't get too silly to play decently... other friends of mine do likewise, the key is moderation and knowing your own limits.
Kudos to that last DM. I have to wonder if there was an out of game dislike the paladin had for the new player and used the whole she's a Tiefling bit as an immature way of trying to get them to leave.
but how in heck do you get THAT hammered on 5% AbV seltzer?
9:52 make him buy the whole table a new set of dice😂
At this point, both sister and brother should both go. Shes nothing but an enabler for her brother and letting him back in will only be an ok for him to continue this. It doesnt matter if shes a good roleplayer or not, either he goes or theyre both not welcome back. Apologies are just currency for behavior like this to this kind of person. Im sorry, but this guy needs professional help and its not fair to put that burden on a ttrpg group to be free replacement therapy.
Expecting the worst, got way more then that! Jeez!
Dungeons and dragons needs dice😮 that's why I have at least 12 sets
You gotta pump those numbers up!
@@DnDDoge what can I say I only just started recently we haven't even started the game yet
Story #! - Could go either way on this one, I think it'd be up to the group themselves. Since he has a close relative there who'll be keeping a close eye on him, that is a point in his favor. Personally I'd say. allow him back, but under very strict guidelines. No drinking or substances is top of the list, but it should be clear that ANY anti-social behavior will be grounds for permanent ejection. No tap-backs, no new chances, no excuses.
Story #2 - Should have just kicked Luigi early on. If he wouldn't listen to advice, and would rather mess with his phone than play, then why is he there?
Story #3 - Paladin had it coming. If he wanted to play someone who starts out distrusting Teiflings, that MIGHT be acceptable in a lot of groups. But he took things way too far, and paid for it very appropriately, imo.
That girl needs a restraining order
Okay! Story #1 has me very concerned, especially since the problem player is like REALLY intent on hitting and flittering with his sister.....😕.....I want to say he should talk to someone about this but I feel like I'm reading to much into it, but I also feel even more concerned especially with the sister not being harsher in telling her brother to quiet it. Even if she thought her bros flirts and whatnot were joking, its still a weird and creepy thing that would make me feel uncomfortable.
Also I have a strong no alcohol rule at my table. i have seen TOO many problems that come from it, that I put right say no when the mention of beer or wine, or anything else I'd even suggested.
Yeah that story number 1 has a lot of things left unsaid I would say. I've been wrong about stuff before but there is absolutely no way that there isn't a different sort of relationship between them. It's just to strange way to react and defend.
Kudos to op in the 1st story for at least seeing that the dude might need some help. I had a friend like that I was trying to help out because his parents were abusive and being normal was only something he could do in bursts. However IF you do take him back, he would have to be on permanent parole. I've been hammered many times and never whipped it out. Or hit on my sister. I think......
Congrats on 20k!
First story :... He showed his WHAT?!!! To his defense he was drunk, but still... damn. Also he's an idiot if he seriously thought he could kill a god. Though even if he had succeeded I doubt the paladin would have appreciated. "Oh, you killed the being I worship and devoted my life to it, sure, I'll sleep with you now." Dumbass
Last story annoys me. Why are there so many idiotic lawful stupid paladin players who think Tiefling are all demonic and evil?! They do realize that's a stereotype for villains and not heroes, right? The whole point of Tiefling is that they don't have to follow the step of their parents!
Exposing yourself while drunk is just pathetic, exposing yourself while drunk in an attempt to seduce YOUR SISTER in front of strangers is beyond creepy and grounds for being institutionalized.
@@ChuckPalomo Agreed. No idea what the deal is with him targeting his sister specifically.
So the people who showed up not knowing they needed dice were probably just there to take instagram photos.
Don't do Midousuji dirty like this
well this is an ominous title, cant wait
How was it? I'm amazed you got here 4 minutes after the video was posted.
Think I'd be worried about the woman if her brother is constantly hitting on all of her characters and then gets drunk and does that.
So close to 20k let's go
The paladin character in second story is pretty specist sounding
sounds more like an edgy 13 year old murderhobo who came straight up from Warhammer 40k. 😂
MORE OF THE MICRO-PANTHER BARDS!!!
I don't know what white claw is, but it seems to play a supporting role in a lot of stories of problematic people
In all honesty, the DM of the last story _did_ solve things out of game - he kicked the player out.
When the "hub" brainrot takes over.
In that first story, I'm less bothered by him exposing himself than I am by the (apparently) months-long creeping on his own sister.
If it had been only 1 of his characters, I would have written it off as creepy, but whatever. But Every. Single. Character. He. Plays? No. That's some hardcore bleed. Even if his sister has convinced herself that he doesn't mean anything by it, no one else should be convinced. He wants to get with his own sister- nothing will convince me otherwise after everything he's done, especially after exposing himself in response to the sister's joke. In vino, veritas.
Paladins have detect evil at will, do they not? Obviously just the player being difficult for no reason.
The guy who was trying to seduce his sister's character was clearly thrown at a wall as a child.
At this point, the sister LIKES the attention, but doesn't want it to be sexual, but is enabling her brothers weird obsession. They're BOTH a problem.
I think the dude that exposed himself mighta thought he was playing the wrong game. Maybe Pokémon or Yu Gi Oh.
“I place my Trouser Snake in attack position and end my turn.” 😂
There is literally no reason to let someone who does not have some kind of developmental issues stay at yojr game table after EXPOSING THEMSELVES! Being a drunken asshole doesn't cut it.
Pretty sure that brother/sister duo have the last name Lannister...
He's pulling his 🐓out!
Ah ha yugi youve activated my trap card.
What do you play kaiba?
I play the one eyed white dragon yugi!
The what kaiba you mean blue eyes white dragon?
No yugi I mean my penis! Slamming noises intensify...
go home kaiba youre drunk.
Im drunk on Power!
I confirm that that is how I duel.
@thegreekatheist3580 lol if kaiba starts working on a card called manaconda it can't be tournament legal
Why? Are? All? Of? The? DMs? In? Most? Horror? Stories? Too? Weak? To? Kick? Problem? Players?
As a forever DM (who prefers that because D&D is one of the worst games I have ever played but DMing is a breeze), WAY TOO MANY DMs like to be too afraid for kicking players from their table. If more DMs knew how to grow a pair then there'd be much less issues with problem players and thus fewer horror stories.
But then again, what do I know? I'm just a DM that is NOT so cowardly to kick problem POS's from my table. Not every DM has a spine. Then again, if you don't have a spine, then you have no place running a campaign.
Doge just realized how many spelling errors and grammatical errors you auto correct when reading these stories. Lol mad props.
Tbf i would let him (guy from 1 story) stay if every one else don't mind. I also feel sorry for his sister since if he's band she probably will force herself to also leave.
I mean i watched hundreds of horror stories and this guy is rather harmless in comparison.
To be fair, the feywild stands no chance against a drunk, angry and rejected wizard. I'm pretty sure in all the religions of our world that story must exist. If not, it SHOULD!
First story- thats a form of sexual harassment, no way around it. It made everyone at the table (but he and his sister) very uncomfortable. That alone is enough for me to kick them from the table.
Its pretty obvious he has serious boundary issues, and that his sister has covered for him too many times. Kick him, kick her if you need to. He needs to endure consequences and she needs to hit her last straw with enabling him.
Edit: fixed term
I hope they burned the table
I remember 1 other story where ppl were arguing over who would be party leader so one guy whipped it out saying I have the biggest dong so I'm the leader XD
Man we should elect that guy president with those diplomacy stats
@@GodOfPlague
that guy probably WAS president between 2016 and 2020 lol
If I am being honest a DnD campaign where everyone is drunk while playing might seem fun but if its just a single player it might be annoying
DnD Doge might be the only dog to like cats
It’s a cod nuke well actions have consequences
First Story: is anyone else seeing red flags? Because i am seeing less red flags in Communist China? And i wrote this before the pecker came out. I am thinking this is more than just flirting with his sister's charecter, and maybe is into some sis con. He needs therapy. If he comes back in the game, its after he gets a therapist.
2nd story: love it when the ones that say you should grow up cannot act like a grown up. This is noob behaveior and not newb behavior.
3rd story: i hate these lawful stupids! I get it, racism is a thing, and that is half the point of playing a teifling is to battle the injustice of it all. But Paladin's antics are just baffling. Also why didn't he dod the detect good and evil thing paladins get? If nothing else but to prove a point, and have that backfire completly. This is...just...bull. it was justified for him to get kicked, but i am guessing this had gone on long enough for the DM to need to talk privatly with him
I cant stand players who say "play this subclass only or else your bad." I get a lot of flack for playing a drakewarden ranger with mostly flavor choices on my character. And not doing gloomstalker. "B.c its actually good and you can do over 100 dmg in a round". Zzzz boring.
For the first story, that guy needs therapy. I'd be overly concerned with his need to try and seduce his sister's character versus anyone else's. I know that the characters they're playing aren't related, but it still feels way too incestuous. It just makes me think that he's got some skeletons that he needs to work out.
First story.. yaaaa kick both them out XD
Thank you lucky!
What in the implied incest 😭
-signfeld meme here-
dude that's abuse! put that poor little thing away. and give it back to its mother! baby mice need to nurse.
And cats need to eat.
@@seto_kaiba_ well yeah but if your gonna keep a baby mouse in your pocket you shouldn't be whipping it out like that.