Great video. I do these a bit differently. I press the bearing cones in and then fit the pinion and bearings in plus the prop flange BEFORE fitting the seal. I tighten the pinion nut up to compress the spacer until there is 95% zero free play but the pinion still spins freely. Without the seal fitted you can feel a minute amount of play. Then mark the nut to the pinion, remove the flange, fit the seal and refit the flange, tightening the nut to where it was before but fractionally more. You can do these without a press (I don't have one) using long thin chisels to remove the cones. Be careful not to mark the diff casing or the shim. The big one is very tight. I get the casing nice and hot before fitting the big cone that I leave in ice cold water. I find the worst bearings for wear are the Japanese KOYO brand, very bad. The side circlips are also shims and must be marked side to side. These days I never replace the diff side bearings to keep costs down - they are rarely worn like the pinion bearings. I use EP90/140 synthetic oil as well - the original oil is too thin, the reason these diffs wear out. I've also found that many diffs only need the small end pinion bearing replacing, and that the big one is still serviceable, even on very noisy diffs.
Great info, my pinion bearing has gone noisy and i'm considering doing it myself but not sure i've got the skills. I think i can but what if i cant half way through 😂
Amazing video, thanks to our guys in Serbia I was able to rebuild mine properly. Be aware everyone, the oil the gentlemen is using is wrong and not compatible, it was the reason why my Diff got damaged 2 years after putting it. I did a lot of research and asked BMW and I came to a conclusion that OEM oil is the only stuff I should use, nothing else. (Liqui moly also confirmed the same conclusion that they themselves don't have a compatible oil for this specific diff. Good luck everyone!
@@dadwillfixit You're right, but their bearings aren't available everywhere so I strongly recommend using the OEM stuff and it should last about 4 years before it needs replacement.
@@ve9ine true. Btw Liqui Molly does have the oil, at least for my diff. "Fully Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil (GL4/5) 75W-90" or "Fully Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140"
When I first watched this thought he used the angle grinder to basically cut the bearing seat off, nope cut a slot to place a chisel so would have a solid ground to smatch it off ,very very much so impressed.
works great for wheel bearing races stuck on hub surfaces as well, (can be a bit more difficult with thicker bearing material) cut down almost through the race and then chisel to split it in half, race slides right off then.
You should mark which output flange was which when disassembling. Same with half shafts. The splines have been stressed in one direction during use and can fracture if replaced on opposite side of the diff as the stresses are reversed.
This is above my pay grade but you may have helped me diagnose my issue. 2011 e91, 6 speed, decelerating from 40mph and noticeable whine from front end. Thought maybe front drive shaft. Not. Maybe differential. Great vid!
Very few people are repairing diffs correctly in Russia, it's even harder to find one here in Sochi, I was also told not to change the crush sleeve after replacing the pinion bearings, I know that it should be replaced and preloaded to spec. Keep on enlightening us 😀🤝
Very educational video. If you have the opportunity to measure the height of the new 215 type shank spacer, please let me know. Thank you. My front shank bearing is noisy but I don't know the height of the new bushing.
Hi, I have a question, there's a difference that the ends of the circlips goes up or down? The differential it's a 215L from a e90 330d 2006, there's no an oil passage on top, I'll appreciate the answer, thanks in advance.
thanks for this great video. I don't know where to buy the key you use to check the pinion. Can you give me a name of any company that sells it? Thanks in advance.
Hello, I have one question - I almost replaced the differential on the bmw 118d 122hp 2007 M package in service and they put the bmw 120d differential instead (since it doesn't break down like they said) and I noticed that my car in the same RPM has now less speed then it had . For example, in the sixth gear, the speed was 195 km / h at 3,000 rpm, and now it develops 180 km / h at 3,500 rpm or less. Is it differential problem and which should be put to be as it was?? Thank you
Hello. I have a problem with the front differential, BMW E84 2103 (184 HP) and I have to replace the 2 bearings from the pinion. Can you tell me how tight the pinion nut should be tightened? I suspect that the procedure is the same, the measurement will be done under the same conditions as in the video above. Thank you very much!
We always check it, but it's not necessary since bearings are made to 0.001mm tolerance. So, if there isn't wear on gears, you can simply return everything as it was.
I have a badly reconditioned differential at the moment and I’m trying to re do it myself. I don’t know if when initially was reconditioned, they have fitted the c-clips the right way. Do you know what dimensions this c-clips should have? So I can find out which one goes left and which one goes right? Thank you.
How did you get out the bigger pinion bearing cone? I failed right know to get it out.. I am thinking of leaving the old one there because a damage is not recognizeable. Thank you for your great video and inspiration!
I would recommend taking it out, better to have new one there. If it is stuck very hard there, try to heat the material of the housing around it. Cheers!
I'm in the process of redoing a differential on a 2013 114i, it's a 168mm but "LW". Between the two conical bearings of the pinion connected to the transmission shaft I find a deformable ring on the axle but there is also a ring on the housing with two holes (certainly to lubricate the axle). It gets in the way of removing the outer ring of the bearing on the transmission shaft side but I can't find it as a spare part. Do you have any information on this?
Great video!! What torque meter are you using to measure the preload? Also I didn’t realise the circlips were different sizes, do you know the correct thickness for a left hand side snap ring on an e90 188size diff? Thanks for sharing this information and I will definitely buy from your company in the future.
There are many makers of torque wrenches. They are all ok. Just make sure you use the one which measures 0-5 Nm. Each diff has its own snap ring measures. There is no default size.
Another nice video, thanks for giving the dimensions of those pressing tools. What kind of paint /brand of paint was used? Also the sealing compound? Looking forward to video on how to set the backlash on a ring and pinion replacement.
I rebuilt a bmw front diff, everything seems to be fine (not fitted yet) but i'm wondering why there is a spring plate/preload washer under a side bearing? When i put the cases together, i think i felt a resistance when screwing in the bolts. Could it be the washer/bearing fitting in? All assembled it seems to spin quite nicely by hand, set the pinion nearly to the same mark with a new crush sleeve as it was, as a starter.
Thanks for this nice video! In my case, the nut is still very, very loose when the clearance is already 0. Would you know what could cause that, or is that normal and does it need loctite? Thanks!
@@RacingDiffs yes absolutely, I installed new bearings and crush bushing but can tighten the main nut so tight by hand, that it is impossible to spin the pinion wheel. That feels very odd. Removal of the pinion gear shows the crush bushing is still uncrushed
@@RacingDiffs Can you listen to my car noise video and tell me your opinion on the decel noise ? To you, does it sounds like a front differential issue ? The car only have 70K miles on it. Thank you for the reply.
Can you change the side load bearing where the axles slide in with out doing the whole diff, or removing the Diff pinion and ring? Just those bearings are bad from a lift on my e83
@@RacingDiffs thanks for getting back so fast. Yeah after I asked, Im digging into finding them. But cant get the part numbers without taking the CV out and seal. I noticed the diff side bearings wouldnt roll when I did the CV. But wifey had to have it running for work. So gotta dig back in there, since they don't roll and are prob the loud howling squeal Im getting off the trees and overpass walls as I drive by. I knew better, too, should done it while I was in there.
@@cerwin21 we have a set available. But the thing is, if you are buying just side bearings alone, they'll cost the same as a full set. This is why we don't offer them separately. There is no point.
Is this diff same for 520d, my diff is making a clunking noise on light acceleration when taking off. In guessing the shims need replacing or increasing.
hi! after rebuilding my differential as the video said, i get a noise on deccelerating / engine braking, like something is vibrating / rubbing. any ideas on what i might have done wrong?
@@RacingDiffs Hi again! After some more driving I'm still experiencing some noise when accelerating or cruising in certain speeds, I've seen at 20-25km/h, around 60km/h and the most noise is at like 80km/h, maybe I would still need to tighten the nut a bit more? I cannot test the preload as I do not have access to the tool that you use in the video
@@RacingDiffs Also, what would be the symptoms of a pinion nut that is too tight? I'm asking so I know what to do the next time I take my differential down to tighten or loosen the nut
Do you work on other cars? I have a 2013 BMW 128I, M sport with the whiny, noisy rear end l. It was swapped out for another one and it sounds exactly the same. Could it be something other than the rear end? I was reading that these are problematic. The car only has 60,000 miles on it. Can I send you a video? What is your location? Thanks, Ken.
Dear Ken, please write us to office@racingdiffs.com, and colleagues from the support team will give their best to provide all the info. 👍🏻 Also, please feel free to include the video.
Pozz majstore. Imam i ja taj diff na e90 pa imam jedan mali "problem", 6 rucni mjenjac. U drugoj brzini (i samo u drugoj) u neko vreme cuje se da nesto pomalo zuji. Ma skoro ko da je zupcanik druge brzine ravan kao na turnom autu za utrke. Ne primeti se to toliko, ni drugi ne cuju, cuje se bas simpaticno da kazem, ali sumnjam da je krivac u difu. Ni kod jedne druge brzine se to ne cuje, ne suskaju lageri, ne kuca kardan, nista. Samo malo pozuji kad ga vozim u drugoj brzini. Isto tako ne baca mi iz nijedne brzine, sve radi normalno. Ako je to dif, naravno da se cujemo sledece godine, da ga sredite
hi the link gives error 404. is the diff kit still available for E30 diff? what tool did you use for such low torque reading? is it a specialist tool for diffs?
We changed link's url, sorry about that. Please drop email to office@racingdiffs.com and we will help you out. Good news is that we now have the 20% off E30 kits.
I have TIS , Bentley and Haynes literature for my BMW but in none of this i can fint the values you pubblished on youtube. My car is a E90 2006 330xd european and according the ETK has a rear diff type 215L. I found accross bimmerforums values ranging from 1.5 to 2.5 Nm for new rebuids and 1.0 to 1.5Nm for my differential after run-in. These values are almost double yours. Are your values from your personal experience or are they comming from BMW?
My questions is why You don't change teflon washers located under the small gears "satellites" In my experience, it is these washers that are responsible for the play that forms in the drive axle, the bearings last 300 to 500 thousand, unless the car was drifted by a young driver. Regards
It's not recommended to return old bearings as they were in the same environment with broken bearings, so metal particles possibly damaged hardened layer of bearing cones. That is why we sell sets only. www.racingdiffs.com/collections/bearings/products/bmw-differential-bearing-oil-seal-service-pack
I am repairing a F20 differential which also make noises, do you know what the torque values are for the pinion bearing? The inners of these diffs are exactly the same as the diffs found on the E90-E93 and E85-E89
@@RacingDiffs Thank you for being so helpfull, I got the bearings changed but the diff is still making noise. But now it is only from 40 mph or 60 km/h, I did set the preload at 0.3 nm and the backlash is at 0.07 mm (0.0027 inch), these settings work fine with the e90/e87 series of differentials. Can you give me any direction to where I have I have to look to find a solution? Any help would be very appreciated.
One question. Does the oil from differential goes on the outside bearings (going to left and right wheel)? The ones that you popped out with hammer. Or outside bearings have their own grease? Also, pinion bearings as well?
Great Video in one step you mention to not mix up the C clips somebody knocked the parts tray. How can i measure wich belonged to wich side? Thanks and many thanks for your effort on the video. Greets
Great Work guys!! So if my differential makes whining noises when releasing throttle it's the pinion bearing? Or is it possible that it#s also one of the side bearings? Or even the ring or pinion gear? Thank you and kind regards from germany! Currently waiting for your LSD Conversion Kit to arrive, can't wait!
Thank you! Whining noise on throttle release is symptomatic for pinion bearings. However we always advise to change all bearings at once as metal shavings gets easily through oil to side vearings as well.
if the pinion nut is to tight after rebuild will it be whining if this is correct can it just be loosened and corrected or will the crush ring need replacing again ?
@@RacingDiffs I've just done my bearings this morning but there is still a slight whine, that's why I wondered if I'd over tightened. They were knackered before, really loud
Thanks for the video! I have replaced the bearings, but i have a noise. Is it possible that i switched the left&right clip? Looks like gears singing.... Greetings
@@RacingDiffs BMW recommends 75W90 grade diff oil for the non-M models.You recommend using 75W140 grade oil.So,is it safe to use 75W140 in non-M diffs,more precisely after the conversion?
@@RacingDiffs The E46 seems to use roller bearings - The E92 uses ball bearings. Do these follow the same process and share the same pre-load settings?
How could you expect this to work properly when the gear mesh was not even looked at? Typically when changing the bearings you will have altered the relationship between the pinion and ring gear, requiring a change in shims to insure they mesh together properly. The process as I have seen it involves marking compound on the gears, rotating them together, and observing how the teeth contact. Adjustment may have to be made in the fore-aft position of the pinion, or the shimming of the ring gear.
@@BMWI-gk9wh healthy diff mustn't make any noise at all. If you have any noise from it that means bearings started to fall apart. And they will fall apart progressively. Check out description of this video, you'll find links for repair sets and also torque spec. If you can't find the way, send me your VIN to office@racingdiffs.com 👍🏼
Hello, Great video ! I am from Holland so sorry for my englisch. Soon i start rebuilding my diff of my e91 318i from 2007. Finally i found de specs for the pinnion bearing in your video!! But what About the backlash or is this the same before you take all apart? Greetings, Vincent
Backlash needs to be adjusted only if you change carrier unit or gear ratio. If you are changing bearings, backlash adjustment is not required. Bearings are made in 0.001mm tollerance so practically you can say they are identical.
In the process of doing bearings on my open diff, 188l , great video has helped me have confidence to go ahead with it myself, although I think I'll have to get someone else with the know how to tighten the pinion shaft nut correctly. Differential has a constant whine only changes with road speed,put it on stands spun the wheels to 100kmh, noise is from differential box but no sign of excessive wear on bearings, I'm starting to think it's the gears making the noise not the bearings, any ideas?
That's the spec. Just another thing. Oil the sealing surface of the new oil seal (pinion seal). As if you assemble it dry, it will mess up your measuring.
@@RacingDiffs nema problema, samo sam pitao u slucaju, da trebas to recimo hitno. Svaka cast, zelim vam puno srece i posla. Kupio sam neki E91 s ovim difom, vec je bio mijenjan pa ako u nekom slucaju sad ovaj rikne meni, znam koga pitati. Pozdrav iz Slovenije.
Using a grinder and no pullers to remove bearings is a hack job. I know has I have repaired more than 900 of these and I kept the used bearings to prove it.
We are making how to videos for people who want to do the job by themselves. There's no point in showing them how to do it with special tools. Of course we have all kinds of pullers, but we wish to show it can be done simple.
Amazing!!You are a rare find. People don’t do this anymore..
Thank you! 👍🏻
Seriously professional work. There are very few people who can repair things to this quality level.
Great video. I do these a bit differently. I press the bearing cones in and then fit the pinion and bearings in plus the prop flange BEFORE fitting the seal. I tighten the pinion nut up to compress the spacer until there is 95% zero free play but the pinion still spins freely. Without the seal fitted you can feel a minute amount of play. Then mark the nut to the pinion, remove the flange, fit the seal and refit the flange, tightening the nut to where it was before but fractionally more. You can do these without a press (I don't have one) using long thin chisels to remove the cones. Be careful not to mark the diff casing or the shim. The big one is very tight. I get the casing nice and hot before fitting the big cone that I leave in ice cold water. I find the worst bearings for wear are the Japanese KOYO brand, very bad. The side circlips are also shims and must be marked side to side. These days I never replace the diff side bearings to keep costs down - they are rarely worn like the pinion bearings. I use EP90/140 synthetic oil as well - the original oil is too thin, the reason these diffs wear out. I've also found that many diffs only need the small end pinion bearing replacing, and that the big one is still serviceable, even on very noisy diffs.
Wow, lots of fantastic information, thanks for sharing!
Great info, my pinion bearing has gone noisy and i'm considering doing it myself but not sure i've got the skills. I think i can but what if i cant half way through 😂
This is what i like to hear , my diff is noisy , and want to diy this at home I have no press
and lots of valuable info you have dropped here
Thanks
so looking at my toolkit I have everything, I will need to invest in a bench vice , and circlip pliers
Amazing video, thanks to our guys in Serbia I was able to rebuild mine properly.
Be aware everyone, the oil the gentlemen is using is wrong and not compatible, it was the reason why my Diff got damaged 2 years after putting it.
I did a lot of research and asked BMW and I came to a conclusion that OEM oil is the only stuff I should use, nothing else. (Liqui moly also confirmed the same conclusion that they themselves don't have a compatible oil for this specific diff.
Good luck everyone!
These guys manufacture the bearings used. I'm sure they know what oil is right for those bearings.
@@dadwillfixit You're right, but their bearings aren't available everywhere so I strongly recommend using the OEM stuff and it should last about 4 years before it needs replacement.
@@ve9ine true. Btw Liqui Molly does have the oil, at least for my diff. "Fully Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil (GL4/5) 75W-90" or "Fully Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil (GL5) LS SAE 75W-140"
@@dadwillfixit That's the correct oil from Liqui Molly yes but it's not available in my region.
@@ve9ine damn. Well, the OEM will do just fine, shouldn't be much more expensive
That´s that i call professional services !!! Good job.
Thank you sir! Much appreciated 👍🏼
When I first watched this thought he used the angle grinder to basically cut the bearing seat off, nope cut a slot to place a chisel so would have a solid ground to smatch it off ,very very much so impressed.
works great for wheel bearing races stuck on hub surfaces as well, (can be a bit more difficult with thicker bearing material) cut down almost through the race and then chisel to split it in half, race slides right off then.
@@MyNameIsJustinKeenan i agree and must say always use appropriate safety equipment too, as in glasses or goggles 🤓😎👀🙈
Danke für das tolle Video. Dadurch konnte ich mein Differential selber reparieren!! 🎉
And how is it holding up , preparing to do the same
@domkraggp9944 all good 👍🏻
Did you stop the tooth flank game? And what needs to be hired alone?
You should mark which output flange was which when disassembling. Same with half shafts. The splines have been stressed in one direction during use and can fracture if replaced on opposite side of the diff as the stresses are reversed.
Can't wait for my lsd conversion kit to arrive and help with the open diff 'issue'.
This is above my pay grade but you may have helped me diagnose my issue. 2011 e91, 6 speed, decelerating from 40mph and noticeable whine from front end. Thought maybe front drive shaft. Not. Maybe differential. Great vid!
After the bearings have been installed, what needs to be adjusted? Just the tooth flank game on the big gear or what else?
In this video it only shows how to remove 1 pinion race. How to remove the other (the larger race?)
awesome, better than Bob Ross 🙂
Super video, make more of those!
Great video, very informative, is it required to set the backlash or it purely dependents on tightening up the pinion bearings correctly? Thanks.
Glad you like it. 👍🏻 No need to adjust backlash. Just remember to put back adjustment c clips on the proper sides (as they were)
@@RacingDiffs thank you 🤝
Very few people are repairing diffs correctly in Russia, it's even harder to find one here in Sochi, I was also told not to change the crush sleeve after replacing the pinion bearings, I know that it should be replaced and preloaded to spec. Keep on enlightening us 😀🤝
We're glad being of help! That is what RUclips should be all about. 🙂
Very educational video. If you have the opportunity to measure the height of the new 215 type shank spacer, please let me know. Thank you. My front shank bearing is noisy but I don't know the height of the new bushing.
Thank you. I'm glad you liked the video. And by shank spacer, you mean crush sleeve?
Hi, I have a question, there's a difference that the ends of the circlips goes up or down? The differential it's a 215L from a e90 330d 2006, there's no an oil passage on top, I'll appreciate the answer, thanks in advance.
thanks for this great video. I don't know where to buy the key you use to check the pinion. Can you give me a name of any company that sells it? Thanks in advance.
Do you reuse the old pinion shim or did you install a new one?
Thanks
Los datos de precarga del piñón, son con el retén montado?
Yes. It is measured with the seal.
@RacingDiffs thanks
Hello, I have one question - I almost replaced the differential on the bmw 118d 122hp 2007 M package in service and they put the bmw 120d differential instead (since it doesn't break down like they said) and I noticed that my car in the same RPM has now less speed then it had . For example, in the sixth gear, the speed was 195 km / h at 3,000 rpm, and now it develops 180 km / h at 3,500 rpm or less. Is it differential problem and which should be put to be as it was?? Thank you
You put a shorter gear ratio differential. Check another video on our channel on how to determine which gear ratio your BMW has. It will help👍🏻
Hello. I have a problem with the front differential, BMW E84 2103 (184 HP) and I have to replace the 2 bearings from the pinion. Can you tell me how tight the pinion nut should be tightened? I suspect that the procedure is the same, the measurement will be done under the same conditions as in the video above.
Thank you very much!
Hello, literally everything is the same as in this video. Even bearings. 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs So the tightening torque is correct 0.2Nm - 0.4Nm?
I really appreciate your work.
Thank you very much.
Yeap that's right👍🏻 pleasure to be of help.
Did you check the backlash when the re-build was complete? It's not shown on the video.
We always check it, but it's not necessary since bearings are made to 0.001mm tolerance. So, if there isn't wear on gears, you can simply return everything as it was.
How much do you charge for a rebuild?
Probably cheaper to buy a good second hand diff
Hi, thanks fo excellent video. output shaft, should there be play? or are they soild tight?
In shafts themselves shouldn't be any play.
Thank you for the video!!!! What tool do You use to measure the bearing torque?
You're welcome. We use simple torque wrench that measures 0-10 Nm.
hello. i mix up C clip😏. one is 3.28 and other 3.68. from your expiriance where put the tallest one?🤔 thaks a lot.
Try putting thicker to the right side.👍🏻
I have a badly reconditioned differential at the moment and I’m trying to re do it myself. I don’t know if when initially was reconditioned, they have fitted the c-clips the right way.
Do you know what dimensions this c-clips should have? So I can find out which one goes left and which one goes right?
Thank you.
You have to measure backlash. No one knows thicknesses as they differ for each differential. Measure backlash, you should have around 0.06mm.
Very nice video.. and satisfying, thanks for sharing!
Does it work for the e91 (320d and 330d) as well?
How did you get out the bigger pinion bearing cone?
I failed right know to get it out.. I am thinking of leaving the old one there because a damage is not recognizeable.
Thank you for your great video and inspiration!
I would recommend taking it out, better to have new one there. If it is stuck very hard there, try to heat the material of the housing around it.
Cheers!
I'm in the process of redoing a differential on a 2013 114i, it's a 168mm but "LW". Between the two conical bearings of the pinion connected to the transmission shaft I find a deformable ring on the axle but there is also a ring on the housing with two holes (certainly to lubricate the axle). It gets in the way of removing the outer ring of the bearing on the transmission shaft side but I can't find it as a spare part. Do you have any information on this?
No, sorry to let you down.
Great video!! What torque meter are you using to measure the preload? Also I didn’t realise the circlips were different sizes, do you know the correct thickness for a left hand side snap ring on an e90 188size diff? Thanks for sharing this information and I will definitely buy from your company in the future.
There are many makers of torque wrenches. They are all ok. Just make sure you use the one which measures 0-5 Nm. Each diff has its own snap ring measures. There is no default size.
Nice video! Do you happen to know what s the good value for setting carrier unit preload in bmw 168 diff?
Thanks! 1nm measured without ring gear.
Another nice video, thanks for giving the dimensions of those pressing tools. What kind of paint /brand of paint was used? Also the sealing compound? Looking forward to video on how to set the backlash on a ring and pinion replacement.
We use Rust bullet for paint and Dirko sealant👍🏻
'Brantho Korrux' ist a good choice, too. Love this Video ! Best regards from Germany
Do you offer this service, along with your LSD kit fitment all at once?
Yes, of course 👍🏻
Can a bad differential break a CV axle
Depends on what's wrong inside the diff. Bad bearings usually can't harm axles.
whether you can write bearing markings, or replacement bearing markings
We have the set available
www.racingdiffs.com/collections/bearings/products/bmw-non-m-differential-repair-kit?variant=41060311793826
What type of sealant are you using when mounting the oil seals?
The same as for the rear cover. victor reinz
Hi
how can I know which bearings I have on the differential (168, 188 or 215)?
Thanks
Hello, here's a video to help you.
ruclips.net/video/WCa7zL9vm7s/видео.htmlsi=CZAyMoMKeAD50zaO
Super gemachtes Video. Es wäre noch besser wenn ihr die Drehmomente angegeben hättet anstatt den Deckel mit dem Schlagschrauber zu verschliessen
So the seals can be replaced by just forcing them out and pushing new ones in? You don't need to open up the entire diff just for this, do you?
I rebuilt a bmw front diff, everything seems to be fine (not fitted yet) but i'm wondering why there is a spring plate/preload washer under a side bearing? When i put the cases together, i think i felt a resistance when screwing in the bolts. Could it be the washer/bearing fitting in? All assembled it seems to spin quite nicely by hand, set the pinion nearly to the same mark with a new crush sleeve as it was, as a starter.
This shim creates optimal preload on bearings, so you don't neet to adjust it by yourself. Actually the clever thing.
@@RacingDiffs Thanks for the fast answer and great work overall helping out people! :)
Much appreciated 🙂
Hello what dynometric force should be used to tighten the rear nut???
You tighten the rear nut until you get 0.6 - 0.8 Nm of torque resistant of the pinion (without carrier inside).
Was that assembly lube applied onto the bearing cone(before pressed in) and the bearings as well ?
We lubricate all with Motul Gear Competition
Thanks for this nice video! In my case, the nut is still very, very loose when the clearance is already 0. Would you know what could cause that, or is that normal and does it need loctite? Thanks!
Did you put new crush sleeve?
@@RacingDiffs yes absolutely, I installed new bearings and crush bushing but can tighten the main nut so tight by hand, that it is impossible to spin the pinion wheel. That feels very odd. Removal of the pinion gear shows the crush bushing is still uncrushed
@@rickstigter9086 some bearing cone didn't get to the end. Check that again and I'm sure you will find it.
@@RacingDiffs I used a hydraulic press to install it. Could it have to do with the spacer ring underneath the biggest cone?
@@rickstigter9086 possibly. We use dentist mirror to check the ledge.
Wow, amazing video. I love people who repair things instead of throwing and buying new one. Just curious, how much do you charge to do that ?
We charge 100€ for labor + parts. Thank you for your compliment! 👍🏻 Much appreciated.
@@RacingDiffs Can you listen to my car noise video and tell me your opinion on the decel noise ? To you, does it sounds like a front differential issue ? The car only have 70K miles on it. Thank you for the reply.
@@John-qc1zv sure. Send video to office@racingdiffs.com
Just from curiosity, which country is that?🙂
Great video! You wouldn't happen to know what the pinion torque spec for roller bearings in a 215K should be? 🫣
Thank you! It should be 0.6-0.8Nm without carrier unit inside👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs Thanks for replying. So the same specs apply for both ball bearing and roller bearing?
Pretty much 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs Thanks 👌🏼
Do you have kit for 04 BMW 325xi 2.5l sedan awd 3.46 my bearing are making hollow sound
Can you change the side load bearing where the axles slide in with out doing the whole diff, or removing the Diff pinion and ring? Just those bearings are bad from a lift on my e83
You sure can. But it will be hard to find them out of the set.
@@RacingDiffs thanks for getting back so fast. Yeah after I asked, Im digging into finding them. But cant get the part numbers without taking the CV out and seal. I noticed the diff side bearings wouldnt roll when I did the CV. But wifey had to have it running for work. So gotta dig back in there, since they don't roll and are prob the loud howling squeal Im getting off the trees and overpass walls as I drive by. I knew better, too, should done it while I was in there.
@@cerwin21 we have a set available. But the thing is, if you are buying just side bearings alone, they'll cost the same as a full set. This is why we don't offer them separately. There is no point.
@@RacingDiffs Copy. I will go on your site. Thanks again for helping out and super quick
@@cerwin21 pleasure to be of help!
How do you check crown to pinon lash ?
With dial gauge. However, in case of bearing change, you don't need to.
Is this diff same for 520d, my diff is making a clunking noise on light acceleration when taking off. In guessing the shims need replacing or increasing.
It is a different diff so they are not interchangeable. But rebuild process is the same.
hi! after rebuilding my differential as the video said, i get a noise on deccelerating / engine braking, like something is vibrating / rubbing. any ideas on what i might have done wrong?
I would say you have to tighten pinion nut a bit more. If you did everything else according to the video.
@@RacingDiffs Hi! Thank you! That solved my issue!
@@RacingDiffs Hi again! After some more driving I'm still experiencing some noise when accelerating or cruising in certain speeds, I've seen at 20-25km/h, around 60km/h and the most noise is at like 80km/h, maybe I would still need to tighten the nut a bit more? I cannot test the preload as I do not have access to the tool that you use in the video
Possibily, yes. If it was better than the first time, then add some more.
@@RacingDiffs Also, what would be the symptoms of a pinion nut that is too tight? I'm asking so I know what to do the next time I take my differential down to tighten or loosen the nut
Do you work on other cars? I have a 2013 BMW 128I, M sport with the whiny, noisy rear end l. It was swapped out for another one and it sounds exactly the same. Could it be something other than the rear end? I was reading that these are problematic. The car only has 60,000 miles on it. Can I send you a video? What is your location? Thanks, Ken.
Dear Ken, please write us to office@racingdiffs.com, and colleagues from the support team will give their best to provide all the info. 👍🏻 Also, please feel free to include the video.
hello, how much would a differential reconditioning operation like this cost me? Raport 2.58 e91
500eur.
Pozz majstore. Imam i ja taj diff na e90 pa imam jedan mali "problem", 6 rucni mjenjac. U drugoj brzini (i samo u drugoj) u neko vreme cuje se da nesto pomalo zuji. Ma skoro ko da je zupcanik druge brzine ravan kao na turnom autu za utrke. Ne primeti se to toliko, ni drugi ne cuju, cuje se bas simpaticno da kazem, ali sumnjam da je krivac u difu. Ni kod jedne druge brzine se to ne cuje, ne suskaju lageri, ne kuca kardan, nista. Samo malo pozuji kad ga vozim u drugoj brzini. Isto tako ne baca mi iz nijedne brzine, sve radi normalno. Ako je to dif, naravno da se cujemo sledece godine, da ga sredite
Morali biste poslati diferencijal na pregled. Bez toga bi samo bilo nagadjanje.
Which of these bearings is the one that most commonly fails on the 320i please?
The small pinion bearing.
hi the link gives error 404. is the diff kit still available for E30 diff? what tool did you use for such low torque reading? is it a specialist tool for diffs?
We changed link's url, sorry about that. Please drop email to office@racingdiffs.com and we will help you out. Good news is that we now have the 20% off E30 kits.
I have TIS , Bentley and Haynes literature for my BMW but in none of this i can fint the values you pubblished on youtube. My car is a E90 2006 330xd european and according the ETK has a rear diff type 215L. I found accross bimmerforums values ranging from 1.5 to 2.5 Nm for new rebuids and 1.0 to 1.5Nm for my differential after run-in. These values are almost double yours. Are your values from your personal experience or are they comming from BMW?
This is from our personal experience of rebuilding diffs in the last 10 years.
Today i finish rebuild my 168l diff and i can see The backlash is about 0.15mm. this is todo much, i need change my Shims?
Are you sure you returned c clips to their original positions?
@@RacingDiffs i think yes. Tomorrow i change The position of c clips and measure The blacklash.
My questions is why You don't change teflon washers located under the small gears "satellites" In my experience, it is these washers that are responsible for the play that forms in the drive axle, the bearings last 300 to 500 thousand, unless the car was drifted by a young driver.
Regards
Did You buy a repair kit for all the bearings and Sealings, or just clean the old ones..?
It's not recommended to return old bearings as they were in the same environment with broken bearings, so metal particles possibly damaged hardened layer of bearing cones. That is why we sell sets only.
www.racingdiffs.com/collections/bearings/products/bmw-differential-bearing-oil-seal-service-pack
I am repairing a F20 differential which also make noises, do you know what the torque values are for the pinion bearing? The inners of these diffs are exactly the same as the diffs found on the E90-E93 and E85-E89
Toque specs are the same as this one as both diffs use ball bearings. 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs Thank you for being so helpfull, I got the bearings changed but the diff is still making noise. But now it is only from 40 mph or 60 km/h, I did set the preload at 0.3 nm and the backlash is at 0.07 mm (0.0027 inch), these settings work fine with the e90/e87 series of differentials.
Can you give me any direction to where I have I have to look to find a solution? Any help would be very appreciated.
@@martindekoning5270 I would add a bit more pinion preload. Let's say 0.5Nm. That should help👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs Thank you, I will try that.
One question. Does the oil from differential goes on the outside bearings (going to left and right wheel)? The ones that you popped out with hammer. Or outside bearings have their own grease? Also, pinion bearings as well?
Oil lubricates all bearings.
But with a thicker oil it doesn't get quieter or does it?
When bearings start whining, that's a game over. No oil can change that. They need to be replaced.
Great Video in one step you mention to not mix up the C clips somebody knocked the parts tray. How can i measure wich belonged to wich side? Thanks and many thanks for your effort on the video. Greets
Usually thinner goes to the left. But not necessarily. The best way is to try both sides and measure backlash. Should be a bit below 0.1mm
@@RacingDiffs thank you :)
Have you replaced Bearings on a E9x M3 diff? Same procedure or any thing different?
Actually, we have a video for E46 M3. That is the same procedure.
ruclips.net/video/F7QTGKCcWVU/видео.html
Did you change the planet gears?
No, there is no need to touch them if they visually look good.
BMW E91 330D differential 2.35 215 type LW
Great Work guys!!
So if my differential makes whining noises when releasing throttle it's the pinion bearing? Or is it possible that it#s also one of the side bearings? Or even the ring or pinion gear?
Thank you and kind regards from germany!
Currently waiting for your LSD Conversion Kit to arrive, can't wait!
Thank you! Whining noise on throttle release is symptomatic for pinion bearings. However we always advise to change all bearings at once as metal shavings gets easily through oil to side vearings as well.
@@RacingDiffs OK, thank you!
How much is the tourque for the pinion bearing?
You need to tighten the pinion nut until you get 0.6-0.8 Nm of torque resistance of pinion gear.
if the pinion nut is to tight after rebuild will it be whining
if this is correct can it just be loosened and corrected or will the crush ring need replacing again ?
If nut is too tighten, it won't cause whining immediately. But it will affect longevity of bearings significantly.
Also new crush ring is needed.
@@RacingDiffs I've just done my bearings this morning but there is still a slight whine, that's why I wondered if I'd over tightened.
They were knackered before, really loud
@@kierongrant6426 did you return c clips as they were? Right to the right and left to the left?
@@RacingDiffs yes, after watching your video I made sure I marked them
Thanks for the video!
I have replaced the bearings, but i have a noise. Is it possible that i switched the left&right clip? Looks like gears singing....
Greetings
Could be. If backlash is not correct, nois can occur.
for bmw 118d 122cv pinion is ok 0.3nm is not slow?
Too low. Give it a bit more👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs for now Bering is ok 0.8?
Yes, perfect.
@@RacingDiffs Thank you
Do the customer have to buy differential oil or it is included as a part of your bearing and oil seal service?
Not included. You'll have to buy on your own.
@@RacingDiffs BMW recommends 75W90 grade diff oil for the non-M models.You recommend using 75W140 grade oil.So,is it safe to use 75W140 in non-M diffs,more precisely after the conversion?
@@onlyhuman7420 no bad effects whatsoever. Rest assured that it will work much longer, including bearings as well.
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Is there any chance you have the torque specs for the BMW Mortorsport (E9x, etc.) pinion bearings?
ruclips.net/video/F7QTGKCcWVU/видео.html
Sure we do. That would be on this video.
@@RacingDiffs The E46 seems to use roller bearings - The E92 uses ball bearings. Do these follow the same process and share the same pre-load settings?
@@davidscharbach5242 yes, the process is the same.
How could you expect this to work properly when the gear mesh was not even looked at? Typically when changing the bearings you will have altered the relationship between the pinion and ring gear, requiring a change in shims to insure they mesh together properly. The process as I have seen it involves marking compound on the gears, rotating them together, and observing how the teeth contact. Adjustment may have to be made in the fore-aft position of the pinion, or the shimming of the ring gear.
Bearings are made in 0.001mm tolerance. So if you return adjustment shims to their original place, there won't be any difference.
Thats a great information from a Professional! Ist this your daily work? How much Diffs did you fix? Best regards, Stephen
@@StephenKeller-r6o I lost count a couple decades ago.
There are a couple of mechanics in the company. We have 3 diffs daily in average. I'm glad you liked the video👍🏻👍🏻
Wow, thats a lot ! Thank you very much for this Video, now i am looking forward to fix my Diff ! Best regards from Germany, Stephen
Does the pinion make noise at all just got a used diff and its clean but the pinion still makes same noise as my other
In 99% cases, bearings are the problem. They always make noise.
Ok. You got a link for a pinion rebuild? Appreciate your reply nobody has yet.
@@RacingDiffs so a fresh healthy differential doesnt make any noise spinning correct?
@@BMWI-gk9wh healthy diff mustn't make any noise at all. If you have any noise from it that means bearings started to fall apart. And they will fall apart progressively. Check out description of this video, you'll find links for repair sets and also torque spec. If you can't find the way, send me your VIN to office@racingdiffs.com 👍🏼
Did you used the same crushed sleeve or put new one in?
We used new one.
How come on your website the kit does not inlcude a new crush sleeve but instead just a shim?@@RacingDiffs
@romelpalmes2235 you can use shim as well to restore the factory thickness of the crush sleeve.
Any idea what the preload is on the 168 pinion new bearings (rotational force)
Of course. For ball bearing 0.2-0.4 Nm and for roller bearing 0.4-0.6 Nm. Measured without carrier unit inside of course.
@@RacingDiffs that you very much by far the most detailed and informative videos around
@@jackrees5325 thank you! Much appreciated 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs now im looking forward to doing my diff next week
@@jackrees5325 glad to hear that! If you take some pictures and shoot video, please share with us at racingdiffs@gmail.com.
Do you offer an exchange service for these diff's?
Ball bearings.
Hello,
Great video !
I am from Holland so sorry for my englisch.
Soon i start rebuilding my diff of my e91 318i from 2007.
Finally i found de specs for the pinnion bearing in your video!!
But what About the backlash or is this the same before you take all apart?
Greetings,
Vincent
Much appreciated! Thank you👍🏼
Hello racing diffs,
About the backlash... is this only required If you adjust more things than the bearings??
Greetings,
Vincent
Backlash needs to be adjusted only if you change carrier unit or gear ratio. If you are changing bearings, backlash adjustment is not required. Bearings are made in 0.001mm tollerance so practically you can say they are identical.
Racing Diffs ,
Thanks !!!
I let you know when all is mounted!!
@@tuono1682 Please do.
Torque specs for The diff cover? Thanks
Yeah and I guess that fill plugs never coming out again
In the process of doing bearings on my open diff, 188l , great video has helped me have confidence to go ahead with it myself, although I think I'll have to get someone else with the know how to tighten the pinion shaft nut correctly.
Differential has a constant whine only changes with road speed,put it on stands spun the wheels to 100kmh, noise is from differential box but no sign of excessive wear on bearings, I'm starting to think it's the gears making the noise not the bearings, any ideas?
Thanks! Glad it helped you! Try tightening a pinion nut a bit more. No wear on bearings, but still whining can be from loosen pinion nut.
Very cool👍🏻 Do you know which spec for 205l(ball bearings)?
It should be 0.8-0.1Nm for the large case ball bearing diff.
To be more precise 205al bmw f10
That's the spec. Just another thing. Oil the sealing surface of the new oil seal (pinion seal). As if you assemble it dry, it will mess up your measuring.
Thank you very much. This very necessary information
Glad to be of help.
How much, where are you from and do you do exchange (you keep my old part and send me a refurbished one right away)?
Can't do that, sorry. We are from Serbia.
@@RacingDiffs nema problema, samo sam pitao u slucaju, da trebas to recimo hitno. Svaka cast, zelim vam puno srece i posla. Kupio sam neki E91 s ovim difom, vec je bio mijenjan pa ako u nekom slucaju sad ovaj rikne meni, znam koga pitati. Pozdrav iz Slovenije.
@@seasonedtoker za prijatelje iz Slovenije uvek nesto moze da se resi.😉 Ako zatreba cujemo se telefonom. Lep pozdrav!
Using a grinder and no pullers to remove bearings is a hack job.
I know has I have repaired more than 900 of these and I kept the used bearings to prove it.
We are making how to videos for people who want to do the job by themselves. There's no point in showing them how to do it with special tools. Of course we have all kinds of pullers, but we wish to show it can be done simple.
Hallo
Was kostet bmw hinter Differenzial Überholen
Lg
Drop email to office@racingdiffs.com
Hi
Nice job
Can you provide me the measurements for the bearings?
All in the description. 👍🏻
How do i know my differential size
@@ashrafmouhammad4976 ruclips.net/video/Tedvr4gLYeM/видео.html
@@RacingDiffs thank you
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I’m so mad to the BMW. Mine is f30 and the differential gear is broken. I have never heard that are broken before. So wired car.
Sadly, quality grade drops with years.
whether the parishioners are stealing
All that could of been done in 1 hour max without any tools.