The Hubris of Stockton Rush | OceanGate Documentary
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0:04 National Treasure
10:10 OceanGate
23:12 Remember The Titan
42:40 Pet Palate Cleanser
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Josie Naikoi (NOT THE GOOD GIRL)
Daniel Nunez
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@@oldironsides4107 absolutely lol. i like games and i like supporting the youtubers i watch. it’s a win win? lol
Omg another “subject matter expert” for this ocean gate. It’s ridiculously obnoxious you came out of the woodwork to do a video about SOMETHING YOU NOTHING ABOUT.
Video games that are "free" to download and designed to addict you so that you dish out cash for further play options...talk about scams 😳
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Even though I don't think the refugee vessel should be a hot topic or even brought up when discussing the incident with Titian, I can appreciate the factual comment on it being a hot topic that comes up whenever Titan is mentioned; for this comment my view on that is irrelevant, just wanted to state it for the record.
Your video was well researched and enjoyable to watch. I do however think that the first submersible was actually purchased; that yellow one presented in your video. I vaguely remember watching something on the Ocean Gate website pertaining to it, which I'm sure I downloaded prior to its deletion from their site. But great job on doing a deep dive (no pun intended) on the background and life of Mr Rush and the origins of Ocean Gate. It was nice to get some different information for once about this topic than the standard storyline.
As someone who works with hazardous chemicals and combustible dusts, the logic of "nothing bad has happened in 35 years, so nothing bad is ever going to happen" drives me crazy. The fact that people weren't getting hurt is proof that the safety regulations worked, not that they were an issue.
Yes, it's not exactly the same, but it always puts me in mind of the famous example of the engineers in WWII trying to work out where to put armor on the planes, and first placing it on the spots where they found damage, only to later realise when nothing changed, that the reason that they came back with bullet holes in the wings was because they were the lucky ones which survived, and the places they should put the armor was around the pilot. Assuming that because there are haven't been issues with design and construction means that there isn't any problems with design and construction is moronic and naïve
Hm, i get you, but i don't think you need to worry. This is not even an example inside dive community, it's just a rich asshole that besides the money to buy his license to be the youngest ou newest something something, toys and the law, he's even rich enough that after dead people talk and make videos about him!! So... the problem is not yours or your industry, just from stupid people like people making this video for example.
While I'll be the first to admit it's easy to see and say in hindsight the fact that Rush missed the forest for the trees on this simple point bothers me to no end.
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Whenever I hear that, it always sounds incomplete and I add “happened YET” at the end. Too many people think that luck is something to be relied on, instead of the fluke that it is
One small correction: carbon fiber is not outdated as a hull material. It never was safe so never had a period of use.
The carbon fiber he used was outdated and couldn't be used in aviation. He got it cheap because it was too old.
Too old to use for airplanes, let's use it for a submersible!
Carbon fiber for a boat hull is fine, cheap fiberglass is used for that purpose all the time. Carbon fiber for submersibles and submarines has never gone through extensive testing.
It was already too weak to withstand the tension put on it on an aircraft I definitely shouldn’t have been but carbon fiber shouldn’t ever be used under compressive forces put on it which is why no submersible has. It’s a very durable material if made properly and works great for boats and airplanes but definitely not subs
@@emmetthowell899My understanding is, that carbon fiber is great at resisting tension and is extensively used for that purpose in the aircraft industry, as, for instance, for aircraft wing applications; but it is weak and unpredictable under pressure and iffy to use in submersibles under pressure. Using "beyond best use date" carbon fiber as Stockton Rush reportedly did for his submersible was the height of folly.
@@SteelHex Thank you for that clarifying fact.
Just to add, passengers were classified as “mission specialists” to claim them as “crew” and avoid regulations regarding passengers and oceanic tourism. Great video!
Sounds like Heaven Gates "Away Team"
The guy spent more effort in avoiding regulations than making sure his sub was safe for the depths it was intended to go.
Yeah when I heard that part of the video I thought the exact same thing. Genuinely ghoulish.
I’m not impressed with Rush growing up with the rich and distinguished all his life.
Somehow, Rush missed the boat when it comes to practicing common sense!!!
@@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459yep and some idiots were willing to pay money for it. Darwinism at its finest.
Okay, let me get this straight: This guy was making a submersible that needed to go deep into the ocean…so he chose a material that would degrade quickly in saltwater?? I’m speechless.
Oh it gets worse. So the industry standard for stuff made out of carbon is weaving the carbon fiber in a 4-point weave, basically a braid where the fiber overlaps four times. (Remember those little plastic string square braid bracelet/keychain things we used to make at summer camp? Like that.) Genius Stockton over here decided to use a one-point weave that's far less secure and is never used in basically any industry because the four-point weave is obviously way stronger. The carbon hull would have failed eventually anyway, but shit like that--ignoring even the tiniest industry standard for literally no reason (there is NO REASON not to use the four-point weave)--is the reason he's fish food right now. It's just awful that he was allowed to take others down with him.
@@Beauty_Botthe worst for me is the 18 year old, he didn’t even want to be in that shoddy water coffin but went anyway to make his idiot Dad happy for Father’s Day.
I dont think it meant that carbon fiber literally disolves in salt water, even tho a quick google search finds that there could be such problems, but as I understand it its not proven. The problem with carbon fiber was more that it "broke" a little bit every dive. Like the fiber strings or composite with the highest stress that dive would break, and then the next dive the ones now experiencing the most stress would break. Basically the hull was slowly breaking all the time until it could not hold up to the pressure anymore, thus there were cracking sounds heard on previous dives.
Similar to the Logitech gaming remote used to maneuver the titan
Why the fuck would you build that thing out of anything but solid fucking titanium??? And why this shape??? This is so tragic and avoidable 😮
You mean a man born into a wealthy family thought the rules didn’t apply to him? I AM SHAKEN.
*pretends to be shocked* 😂
Honestly I'm most surprised that he went on the suicide missions, rather than just sending his employees or unsuspecting customers to die
@@janeeyre1990 He believed his own lies.
"Let's take my unsinkable sub down to see the unsinkable ship..... that sank."
Stockton 'I'm in a' Rush
Concise yet thorough
Stockton was able to accomplish getting his commercial jet license at 19 safely and successfully because of people before him making sure to follow safety measures on the planes, and in their teaching practices.
The same age as Suleman, who died because of Stockton's absolute disregard for these same regulations.
This!! Severely underrated comment.
Damn.
He managed to replicate Lego hair on top of his own head using his own hair. That’s impressive
Suleman was stupid to go. He was not a minor. Youth today just say yes to or go along with many ideas of their parents. Cut the cord and cut social media off...only then can a young person develop reason, logic, worldview, and boundaries to others around you. A boundary for me is safety and another (of many) are that I have to 'want' to do the thing I am being asked to do by someone.
@@Amped4LifeThe mother said she gave up her seat for the kid, so it can't even be said that "He didn't want to go and was forced!" He literally was so excited he brought a Rubik's Cube to become the first person to solve one next to the titanic.
Previous customers had heard the crackling sounds of the carbon fibre delaminating, and when they raised concern, Stockton replied with "Don't worry, this carbon fibre is 5 inches thick"
How did he NOT care that the carbon fibre was WEAKENING with each dive?
I think he'd half convinced himself that the fibers were somehow settling in when the noises were heard rather than delaminating. And maybe that's not completely insane, since some things do improve with use -- like baseball gloves, cast iron pans, and, so I've heard, titanium subs, because the squeezing of the pressure sort of makes them more compact and solid over time.
@@polarvortex3294 I drive a roll off bin truck for a living.I know every single soud and noise the truck makes during operation.If I hear a noise that's not normal, that is 100% indicative of a problem.
Even if the truck is still operating correctly I KNOW that it needs to be looked at in very least.
I most certainly would not operate a truck that someone made with glue and carbon fibre UNLESS they could prove to me it was reasonably safe to operate and had undergone the requisite certification process.
We are talking about equipment operating on land.
So you can imagine how I feel about this disaster given the cavalier attitude Stockton took with OTHER peoples lives.
WHY didnt they test and certify the damn thing, ESPECIALLY after hearing the crckling noises?
Im sorry, but to me there is just no excuse, this tragedy was entirely predictable and avoidable, only the arrogant hubris of a dilettante allowed this foreseeable inevitability to take place.
@@_BLACKSTAR_ Neat story, about your bin truck... Seems like a lot of people are striving to understand what happened with the Titan and Rush and are approaching the story from many interesting perspectives. And almost everything seems to point to OceanGate having been a slipshod operation with a near-madman in charge, overlain by a thin veneer of competence and confidence that kept customers and money coming in.
But Rush heard all of that when he was alive. No outside testing? "All systems go." No classing or certification? "All systems go." Unanimous warnings and concerns from the industry? "All systems go." Somehow he always found a reason why he should keep moving forward. And he really did seem to have come to peace with the ominous-sounding cracks.
From my own perspective, the key to understanding this horrible submersible implosion is to realize that the OceanGate venture was premised upon Rush's psychological assessment of undersea engineers and the men who ran the other sub operations. He felt the engineers were "obscenely safe" in their approach to submersibles and that the sub CEO's were content with an old status quo that kept entry costs very high and potential rivals out of the game. This left, as he saw it, a wide field open between their ultra-safe parameters and the actual bounds of danger where a sub empire could be built -- a cheaper and "innovative" alternative to the industry dinosaurs that would give a better customer experience as well. The engineering and physics-based concerns that were so often voiced were, to him, really just part of an attempt to force him into acting like the others, or to force him out of business altogether. It's not like he ran the numbers and concluded they were wrong. It's not like he had an expert in his corner whom he felt outranked all the others. I mean, he did his own testing and had his crack-detecting machine, but the main thing is he knew that, historically, all of the game-changing business mavericks were scorned and criticized by the established players. He knew the winners all had an iron will and an enthusiasm that powered them past the old-guard static. He felt the objections of his critics were not coming from a good place and he was not inclined to heed them.
Maybe it's like you said -- once he got a few victories under his belt and proved to his own satisfaction that his path was sound, disaster was a "foreseeable inevitability." His critics were an afterthought. In fact he was truly sick of them! As long as the money didn't run out, only the ocean could stop him.
Rush is quoted as saying "There's nothing dumber than doing anything on the surface of the water", then subjected the submersible to take on all sorts of knocks & blows & turbulent waters, being towed back & forth for 100's of miles during the last year in operation.
He hadn't an ounce of concern for anyone else's life, he was too busy wrapped up in his God complex.
@@_BLACKSTAR_ 💓🚚💓
Okay, having watched the full piece:
It perpetually stuns me how often mega-wealthy people like Stockton take shortcuts to cut costs, to SAVE MONEY, despite having endless amounts of it. 🤯 Especially, and knowingly, at the price of safety.
This guy reminds me very much of Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos, the fallen billionaire with the fake blood testing device. The insistence on being the first of their kind, “innovators,” under the guise of changing humanity. The obsession with the marketing and optics over substance, willingly pushing ahead despite experts telling them “it’s not working, it’s not safe”. And especially the utter disregard for the way their creations can harm, or even take, human lives.
Research the ShirtWaist Factory burning. Wealthy business owners have ALWAYS created shortcuts in safety. Always placed and will forever place profit over people.
You get rich by loving money above all, they have a billion and are willing to sell their childs into slavery for 1 more penny, they admire, crave and are obsessed by money
Literally a friend of the family has private jets, and he was driving his 500k car, but fill it with the cheapest gas, and he even made the math of how much he saved by not using the recomended gas 😂😂😂😂
@@lesliewarnell5172Yeah, but that only hurt others. Cutting corners on a sub that you yourself will be in is another level of 'why????'
I mean, wealthy people continue being wealthy that way, they’re cheap and cut corners, that’s how they STAY rich 😅. I’ve seen this too with my very eyes..not sure if they’re all that way, but a lot are 😅
You don’t get rich by spending the money. You get rich by hoarding it.
i'm a safety engineer in the nuclear sector. the whole oceangate thing had me bug eyed at all the glaringly obvious failure points and major construction issues i could see at first glance as someone who has no idea about submarines...
I’m a quality engineer. These cases have me on them like flies on poo 😅
@@pleasantsville big same!
I'm not any specialist at all and was lost at a video game controller lol😅
@@Dra3000 😂 for real!
It’s like the old guy who drives an old car with bad brakes and is likely going to hurt somebody then starts a bus service with an old bus he got out of the scrapyard that’s not inspected and obviously not safe. Then he makes two claims that are technically true but misleading. 1) busses are statistically safe. 2) I have a spotless record
I don’t think you want to hear crackling when you’re 12,000 feet below the surface 😮 This guy’s interview was astonishing. Why ANYONE would get on that is mind blowing and heartbreaking. And to top it off he told the interviewer at one point that his vessels were [indestructible]-and when the interviewer pointed out the irony of that statement, he doubled down that he was a better engineer than the Titanic builders. Unbelievable.
Yes that part was mindblowing. "Yeah a window may be unsafe, but at least we will hear the cracks before it breaks"
Stockton was so full of himself. He could only hear himself talk. He can't hear the warnings of real experts in deep sea diving. He's more like Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos than Steve jobs of Apple. He's believing his own BS. The thing is no one dies if an iPhone malfunctions.
@@sauronthegreat5799 He really was a Silicon Valley tech guru approach to engineering, and as much as I hope it doesn't stay a trend, I'm afraid as long as a certain x-happy individual keeps blowing up 'test' rockets we'll see even more like this.
@@sauronthegreat5799I noticed that Rush and Holmes are similar. I found them both distrustful too full of themselves.
WOW, WHAT AN EGO STOCKTON HAD.
AND. HE'S ALL WRONG TO BOOT.
It's shameful to see a pilot with such contempt for safety protocols... I don't care how many aeronautical degrees or how many kit airplanes he built. he learned NOTHING from his aviation background.
yes it's almost like wealth and power makes people think they are better than other people.
He probably didn't show up for class.
No, he knew damn well what he was doing - he just didn’t care
He saw it as worth the risk
Rush sounds like every MBA I’ve ever worked with, placing money over everything and believing that he knows more than the actual subject matter experts while loudly claiming that he listens to them.
He said he doesn't listen to them.
Rush literally fired the security experts from their jobs and nature fired Rush from his life. Oh, the irony, lmao.
To add, stockturn only hired young employees because they'd be too inexperienced and naive to question his dangerous neglectful attitude to the sub, and he refused older employees because they'd immediately call him out!
He also fired the safety experts, who warned him beforehand.
I believe there's one glaring fact that he didn't have any chief pilot of the sub because one or more left earlier in the company during its years of operation and then he asked his head accountant to be a pilot. The fact that he was driving the thing himself meant that he had scared off anyone else. Imagine the CEO of a failing airline flying the planes himself
He asked his accountant to take over as pilot of the sub when the professional sub pilot quit the company due to safety and design concerns.
Good point.
@@WarrenPostma Press F for doubt that SR had "safety concerns".
Great point I never thought of this, he was the only one deluded enough to use this thing, it's almost suicidal
Rush was someone who thought he knew better than people who had vastly more experience and knowledge about the processes he was using to build his submersible, and the actual environment in which it was assembled.
I worked in healthcare, in Hospital Pharmacy. I worked for over 25 years in Aseptic Services, in Pharmaceutical grade clean rooms, making sterile injections, intravenous feeds for adults and neonates, cytotoxics, and radiopharmaceuticals for injection.
I once had an opthalmic surgeon who wanted to make up cytotoxic injections by herself in the operating theatres.
I almost laughed in her face, but she was a Consultant Opthalmic Surgeon and I'm just a Pharmacist, so I said, 'No. If you want them they need to be made in the Aseptic Unit in Pharmacy.'
She said, 'The operating theatre is sterile. It's cleaner than Pharmacy.'
My reply was, 'Operating theatres are not clean. You might think they are, but they're not. I see staff in the theatre suite in outside clothes all the time, and Theatres staff wandering all around the hospital, and in the canteen eating lunch every day, wearing their theatre scrubs & boots. If operating theatres are sterile, why do so many patients get post-op wound/joint infections and become seriously ill and/or die from them?
In 27 years I never saw one patient getting an infection after being given a product made in a Pharmacy Aseptic Unit.
Pharmaceutical grade clean rooms are some of the cleanest places on earth. Which is why they are used when something needs to be made without ANY contamination, be it bacteria, fungi, viruses or simply particles of dust or other materials. Not just pharmaceuticals. Components for space travel, computer chips, mixed alloy & composite components for Formula 1 and other race cars, etc, etc. Made in clean rooms of a pharmaceutical standard.
There are multiple steps of cleaning and decontamination before anything goes into a clean room. The staff must have showered before their shift every day and have to strip out of their outside clothes and into fresh clean room clothes in a clean changing room every production session. Everything has been laundered, sterilzed and plastic vacuum packed and is only used for one production session. That's just to go into support rooms. If you come out of a support room, you have to change into fresh clothing before going back in.
The staff going into the actual production clean room have to change again in a second cleaner changing room into clean room clothing which was laundered, sterilized by ionising radiation and double plastic packed before use. Plus that clothing has a very short shelf life before requiring to be re-sterilzed.
Every time you move further into an aseptic suite the rooms become a higher grade of sterility and more cleaning, more thorough sterlization (radiation vs. autoclave) of clothing and more layers of packaging protecting everything that goes into the most clean rooms applies. To ensure an absolute minimum number of particular contaminates in the production area.
The space where the Titan hull was glued together looked like a vast open warehouse, with people in overalls stood on step ladders 'cleaning' the titanium rings beforehand, bare-handed, using dirty rags. It was/is filthy.
It's no wonder anyone with any actual relevant experience to manufacture that submersible was either sacked for raising safety concerns or walked because they knew it was going to be a disaster.
Every new video I see about the construction of the Titan it raises more red flags. No wonder Rush wouldn't put it in for independent certification.
You mean he knew the sub wouldn’t pass examination and would ruin his dream/ timeline an he was impatient or knew he needed money from paying passengers to fix or pay for upgrades
@@nikkismith2858 , both.
"Yes"! Covered this in Pharmacy Tech school "!😊❤❤
Great story. Just to add, clean rooms that are designed for micro chips/ components are way cleaner then clean rooms used for pharmaceutical applications, I would even suggest a pharmaceutical clean room (iso class 5/7) is relatively ‘filthy’ when compared to the ISO class 1, 2 or even 3 clean rooms required for micro chip manufacture. The clean room design, air supply filters, clean room garments and physical parameters (e.g., air change rates) used for electronics are all of much higher standard then for pharmaceuticals, you cannot compare the two.
Additionally, while you have luckily not experienced a patient death in your professional career, you would be aware that contaminations during aseptic compounding leading to patient deaths do occur. Albeit they are always related to malpractice or a poorly designed or maintained clean rooms/devices.
I used to compound neo-natal TPN, once we had completed training and media fills, we had to visit the neo-natal wards and look at babies in intensive care the size of your hand. That was the best training I ever had. 👍🏾
@@Strafuzz , I absolutely agree with you. Whilst we're talking about pharmaceutical clean rooms, I only recently saw video of how/where the Titan submersible was constructed and everything about the environment, to the processes used, clothing, 'cleaning' materials, etc, etc. made me scream.
There's no way I'd have got in that thing if I'd seen how it was built, even if I didn't know it had a composite pressure hull.
I think that the clean rooms in the hospital I last worked at were ISO 4. We had a radiopharmaceuticals room and a TPN & others room. I suppose we can get away with lower grade room as any products are injected through an inline 0.22 micron filter which would remove any particles.
We did adult & neo-natal PN on the aseptic side as well as sterile opthalmic injections.
As you say, there is nothing which focuses your mind on doing your job properly than seeing a pre-term baby whose survival is 100% reliant on those who are looking after it.
The smallest baby I ever made PN for was a female twin who had been starved of the placenta and was born weighing 450 grams. She would easily have lain in the palm of my hand.
Being on SCBU/NNU always made me determined to make products of the highest standard possible.
Unfortunately the aseptic unit in that hospital no longer makes products as the chief pharmacist decided to run it into the ground. The plant was getting old and she refused to fund replacing it.
She was a very odd woman who decided to do her best to ruin the entire pharmacy and all the staff who worked in it.
Sad but true.
Stockton Rush is directly responsible for what happened to the Titan. If he were alive, he would be charged with murder to go along with the numerous lawsuits for negligence. He ignored outside engineers. He ignored outside scientists. He fired people who were in the company who sounded the alarm as early as 2018. He hired inexperienced people on purpose to save money and to avoid hearing the word No again. He thought that he knew best and that he was an innovator but he wasn't. He was a selfish entitled asshole and it hurts to know that his choices and arrogance eventually led to the death of 4 people, one of them being only 19. I feel no sympathy for Stockton outside of the sympathy I feel for how the victims died. They were crushed and vaporized in a glorified tin can with just enough time to realize what was happening before it did. That's something out of a nightmare. I hate that The Titanic is seen as a tourist destination like Mt. Everest. I hate how the wreck has been disrespected by the tourist industry and even some scientific/aritifact gathering expeditions over the years. It's a mass grave for over 1000 people and should be left alone going forward. There are plenty of museums, books, and documentaries to learn about The Titanic and it should be learned about. It shouldn't be forgotten. I'm not even saying that submersibles and submarines shouldn't exist but the regulations are there for very good reasons. Oceangate has written a new chapter in those regulations in the blood of innocents and yes, they were innocents despite all the money they had. The tragedy could've and should've been avoided. Sorry for the long comment. I've followed the story since it first happened and it's just so sad and rage inducing. As harsh as I know this is gonna sound, I truly hope Stockton Rush isn't resting in peace. He doesn't deserve to.
I doubt he would be charged with "murder". Negligent manslaughter sounds more likely.
Agreed fully well said
Except would be manslaughter
Crimes of thy father. I believe any children he has should be charged for murder in his place.
@@JacksonPlant No, he knew it was dangerous and lied to those on board to get their money. That's second degree murder.
My father works at Boeing. When I told him that Oceangate bought expired carbon fiber from them to build the dinky little sub, he was appalled -- if it isn't good enough for an airplane, it certainly isn't good enough for a submersible
I have bought and used multiple expired materials in my university days. It's good enough to doing learning labs maybe a few projects, you can get pretty good materials for pretty cheap.
But those projects were building 50 pound drones that would be operating in a controlled environment away from people, or a race car's aerodynamic panels. Not the thing that holds the wings on the plane carrying hundreds or the keeping the water out of a sub.
ANYTHING safety critical needs to be done right. Especially if it is for profit, and especially if there is no escape plan.
sadly, the reason Boeing's reputation for safety is a smoldering ruin is that, like Rush, they have been trying to skate by without third-party scrutiny, they dismiss regulation as stifling innovation and a waste of time, and are so hyper focused on short term pandering to shareholders that they lose all sight of the long-term benefits of quality and safety. They're living in a radical libertarian fantasyland where every human endeavor is whittled down to pure cash and exploitation.
capitalism is great but there's no such thing as a truly free market. if we want desirable outcomes we need to regulate.
even non-expired carbon fiber should never be used in a submersible
@@jakeyounglol when I first heard that they used carbon fiber, I too was appalled. Carbon fiber is good in tension, not in compression. Deep sea keep the water out is a compressive load.
That said, I'm open to being convinced. Show me the engineering calculations where you proved that it's safe. Show me the rigorous non destructive and destructive test campaigns to ensure safety and compliance with the calculations. Show me the independent oversight and certification.
Oceangate didn't do that. Perhaps because they knew they couldn't. Perhaps because it isn't possible at all. I lean towards the latter option, but I like to leave the door open.
Damn this aged crazily
For those saying that they signed a waiver, it doesn’t matter in this case, the tourists consented to the risk of death in the off chance that it could happen, they didn’t consent to death due to deliberate design flaws which would triple their chance of dying. Stockton, if alive, would still be sued and possibly charged with man slaughter/murder because he never disclosed the design flaws. The tourists consented to what was on the waiver, believing that there was a very very small chance that death could occur, they consented believing that it was 99% safe, they didn’t consent to near inevitable death.
Im a Boeing 737 first officer. And this guys atitude and nature when it comes to safety blows my mind. In aviation everything and everyone involved is always thinking of safety. And this guy just gives safety the middle finger.
There's a great interview on you tube by a guy who's going to go on a submersible dive with the guy who went on Titans first deep dive in the Bahamas (it's second ever dive). He points out hair raising stuff and saying it wasn't safe. Hes situated in Bahamas and has an uncertified sub (he talks about that too-theres uncertified and Uncertified!!) Hopefully you'll find it, the guy has given interviews to media after tragedy his name should be easy to find on Google. it's about 50mins long.
Thanks ill take a look at it
I’m a Cessna 152 first officer, I agree.
@@Cruz474 never heard of a cessna 152 needing a two person crew 😂
@@saskiadolk3967😂😂
I've been following this story closely, but I still learned a lot about the CEO's back story. You did a good job framing how being born into wealth is a huge advantage and being born poor is a huge disadvantage. It's so obvious, yet some deny it's even a thing. Keep up the good work!
Yeah. But being born into privilege made him think he was invincible. It was his downfall.
Being born poor is an advantage because you're realistic, wary, and don't trust anyone. Born rich you tend to be naive and soft.
@edp3202 this is what poor people tell themselves
@@Notepad37 oh no. I disagree. I've met so many people who grew up soft who are fools.
@edp3202 well, of course you would, as I just mentioned, they tell themselves this
As someone who SCUBA dives, granted not on this scale, the second I started hearing things like “off the shelf” and “no third party testing” my eyes went wide and I started going “NOPE. Nope, nope, nope nope nope, not getting on that for love or money!” The ocean is amazing, but it’s also very unforgiving. It’s NOT a field that you can entrust to a Logitech game controller!
Or him pressing the company's staff accountant to take on sub pilot duties as well..
@@rosean374 That part almost had me falling off my chair. What the!!!
Imagine if any of those off the shelf components had thrown a spark after the submersible was sealed.
A game controller is not designed to be a safety critical component, as the steering mechanism for a submersible needs to be.
people forgot that nature, while gorgeous, is deadly and VERY unforgiving. they think its just some joy ride when its not.
the loss of human life is tragic in almost* every scenario, but if you play stupid games, you’re gonna win stupid prizes.
* i say almost, because after learning so much about stockton rush and seeing his hubris, i really can’t bring myself to feel that bad. he fucked around and found out, it’s a shame he took 4 other souls with him
Given just how shoddy the construction was, I'm honestly kind of impressed it lasted as long as it did.
More pure luck than anything else. Go a touch deeper on any one of the previous dives of the Titan and I believe that think would have imploded there and then.
Right. It was built so badly that it is crazy that it did last so long. The window was not even approved for use at the depths they were traveling to. I am surprised that the window didn't break or implode on the first trip down.
The man managed to construct a life sized Lego man hair on his own head using his own hair, genius
I had recently re watched James Cameron's documentary of their journey to the challenger deep and seeing him recognize all the marine life he saw really puts in perspective how passionate he truly is. Compared to Stockton talking about having an expert on board to point out ocean life. Just a businessman, no true interest or respect for the marine life he was sharing the ocean with.
Makes me wonder how much future devastation to deep ocean life and ecosystems has been avoided by stocktons demise.
He went down and saw dollar signs, not nature. No respect and it resulted in disaster
@@kingworm7168 Agree completely.
I noticed his detachment in a couple of his videos. He had no real passion for what he was doing.
@@kingworm7168we wasn’t doing this for money only. He wanted social status and had a high risk appetite. If he wasn’t doing this he’d be doing something else adventurous
The fact that he considered the “Sub Safety Act” “obscenely safe” should have been a huge red flag to someone.
It was, and he got fired and sued. I would have made them take me to court and then recouped the legal fees and damages.
The reason they never had any prior issue is because it was all military who used subs. Nobody was building their own subs.
@@daniburke9452 There have been non-military submersibles in use for exploration and research since about the 70's.
I’m currently taking the Lean - Six Sigma training. Waste elimination is the central theme, so I immediately recognize his saying that “safety is waste”. Safety in extreme environments requires redundancies, everything has to be extra because the smallest failure can be catastrophic. Redundant safety is waste 99.9996% of the time, but in the rare 0.0003% event where a safety issue happen, that redundancy would literally be the difference between life and death. The Lean philosophy was devised to make factories work more efficiently (and make more money), it was never intended to deal with hazardous environments. If you trim your business operations to a minimum, the worst that can happen is bankruptcy; you lose money but nobody dies. If you trim safety to the bare cheapest minimum in the deep ocean or in space, people die. This is why robots are much, much cheaper than manned vehicles in these environments.
I don't think I've ever heard of Six Sigma claiming safety was a waste. Probably because most industries have had their safety regulations written in blood.
@@user-gl5dq2dg1j it’s Lean Six Sigma, a combination of “Lean” and “Six Sigma”. Waste elimination is the central concept in Lean methodology.
Lean - Six sigma sounds like a cheap dating coach 😂
@@alinac5512lol who definitely has a podcast
If those leaked communications from the Titan to the surface are legit, they knew for 20 minutes that they were in serious trouble. They were hearing crackling sounds and attempted to surface but ascending seemed to be labored. Indications are they descended much quicker than planned. They were 1200 meters deeper than they should have been based on their posted schedule. The last messages from the sub were rushed and short. Stockton might have been trying to put on a brave face but he also might have been freaking out knowing how serious things had become. When he heard the crackling and then couldn't ascend in an emergency rate of speed, he knew what was coming. God only knows how one would act in that tight space with 4 other people in panic.
Absolutely fucking terrifying.
@@kass_G59 I can disassociate myself from the reality of being there because God himself couldn't sweeten the deal to get me to go. Sarah Boone would have a better chance of getting me to lay in that suitcase lol
@@K131399 LMAO same! That Sarah Boone case is also so wild.. I feel horrible for that poor guy
I guess this is what separates the men from the boys.
@@jeaniechampagne8831 What separates the men from the boys is that the men don't do stupid shit and go "muh innovation", pretty much. Safety rules are written in blood.
my jaw dropped when I read the document that said the porthole on the vessel was only certified to about 1200 meters of depth. He absolutely knew the risks he was taking. Carl Stanley's interviews are probably the most insightful about Stockton and his attitude toward submersible safety
He’s like the rich guy who wanted to be a cool tech innovator but rode his way through his entire Ivy League education on smarmy smiles and inherited wealth.
Can’t you just picture him with a white powdered wig, in colonial times, flexing his calf muscles at debutantes, showing off his ascots to remind the slaves who their master is (?)
Or maybe it’s just me lol 😂
Reminds me of that scene in 'Twister' when the family storm cellar was kept closed by the cheapest looking padlock that shockingly didn't hold up to a tornado.
I concur 👍🏻
@@djofortunato5799 Reminded me of the smug country club crowd from Trading Places
Idiots always think that theyre smarter than others.
Carbon fiber is very good at resisting tension,but not as good at resisting compression.
That's why you can build a plane, which is pressurized from the inside, from Carbon fiber (like the 787. It has a carbon fiber fuselage) but not a submersible, which takes pressure form the outside.
After watching this, it seems that Rush's affluenza was much worse than anyone thought; to speak publicly about how "we need to explore the ocean because it's full of resources we haven't exploited yet" is horseshit. The only sad part is he took four other people with him on his Russian roulette unaliving trip.
@shattered shards: exactly! "affluenza" = the mental 'disease' of the arrogant egocentric Uber rich or famous that they are "above the laws" that the rest of us inferior little people have to live by.
Human creed to ruin the ocean too…
When I heard he was a signer descendant I knew what happened perfectly well. I come from a declaration signer family and there's meetings and clubs for us, he just sounds like every other jerkass who still has the family name of their ancestor. They've all got an inferiority complex about getting that name back in the mouths of the public, like anyone cares lol.
I like how he not only included the oil and gas industry, but also said that he’d be willing to take down foragers to basically go and grave rob.
Rush's story could literally be a leftover diary entry in a post-apocalyptic novel or game
There’s kind of a weird point where the “new” inherits the characteristics of the “old” - i.e. outside the box becomes dogmatic in its own right. This should remind us all that “inside the box” thinking exists for good reasons and challenging it simply for the sake of it is no substitute for good science and engineering.
I think it really depends on what you’re working with. In this case, “thinking outside the box” was a terrible idea because “thinking outside the box” meant violating and ignoring all safety measures and requirements for Rush.
I went into this having only heard that it happened, and assumed it was just a tragic accident. Not only was it a tragedy, but Stockton actively caused it through his reckless behavior. Thank you for teaching me about this, amazing content.
I wish Stockton Rush had not been on board for this incident. He should be alive and facing the consequences of his arrogance and stupidity. Would have loved to have witnessed his downfall, rather than his death.
Macklemore riding on a sub with Stockton is another plot twist I didn’t see coming. This story just gets weirder and weirder
Right? I was distracted for a minute and suddenly Macklemore of all people is on screen.
Right ! Notice how NTGG makes no mention - just lays it out there, letting the viewers decide, perhaps ? 🤔 Dunno - bad optics = bad karma ?? 😮
Yeah his hubris got him killed but the truly unfortunate part is that he took 4 others down with him.
And? They knew the risks … experimental sub in that depth … enough concerns online!
@@GanymedeXD They definitely didn't know the risks.
But they signed a waiver so it’s fine
True enough , but the 4 others should have done their due diligence , to understand what they were embarking on . I believe the all knew the risks , but overlooked those risks to experience the Thrill .
At least they were all rich as shit
I've never clicked anything so fast in my life.
lmao na foreal 😭 immediately clicked off the video i was watching, i have to see this.
Lol same
For real!
Same nearly broke my thumb 😂😂
Right? 😂
"What's great about this acrylic window and this hull integrity alarm system is that they'll give us plenty of warning before something catastrophic happens," said guy who completely ignored plenty of warning that something catastrophic was going to happen
Also, how useful is a warning 2 miles down the ocean? "Oops, the acrylic window is cracking. This duct tape should do until we're close enough!"
The "crackling" of your window at any depth just means impending death. You cannot ascend quickly enough to avoid the implosion. That's not "hubris"; that's down right negligence and stupidity. It's an "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" attitude. It was only a matter of time. Unfortunately, people were with him. However, if he's not wanting to call you a "tourist" which is what you are and wants to call you a "mission specialist" then HE should've been paying them to go down there.
People can innovate all they want, but they are still bound by basic physics. The passenger compartment needed to be a sphere to equalize the pressure. A cylindrical compartment, especially one made of two different materials, allows for unequal pressure and too many potential failure points.
Spherical shape would be an easier design, however a cylindrical shape is reasonable also but one has to design it correctly and use suitable materials You are correct that there more design issues with a cylindrical shape that will need very careful attention and possibly testing before using it on manned missions.
@@washingtonradio I am glad that we are all experts now. I do agree with you:)
Physics always wins.
Frankly, being able to innovate WITHIN the safety regulations is far more impressive than someone cutting not just corners, but whole sheets to create something.
On a base human level, I feel sympathy for this mans violent and horrifying death. But seeing his entitlement and the utter environmental destruction he was willing to and planning on committing in the future for the sake of making the world his playground…. Let’s just say I’m glad he won’t be able to bring anymore harm to anyone or anyplace ever again.
Don't forget that there are too many others just like him, even if they're just 1% of the population, the amount of damage they're able to do is why we're headed for climate chaos and ultimately, extinction.
The sad part is he probably died too suddenly to even realize that he had F'd up. Smug and arrogant one minute, pulverised paste and body parts a nanosecond later
Thankfully it would have been so quick that none of them would have felt anything.
@@lesigh1749but why wish such a horrible death on him? He still has loved ones, do you not Realize that?
Environmental damage? Wtf you smoking...
I think the most telling thing is that, instead of looking at this as an opportunity to find new life, to understand more about the planet that we all live on. His biggest concern was what minerals, chemicals and watery graves he would be able to find, and then ultimately exploit for financial gain for himself and anyone else with no soul who will do anything for cash.
Gaia knew what she was doing when she ended this man.
I just commented on the same lines. These people are scary, because even if he didn't get to do it himself, he piqued other people's greed.
I am about halfway through this documentary, and *I WANT TO SCREAM!* I have wanted to be an oceanographer and marine biologist since I was young, and even though I ended up not pursuing that goal I still educated myself enough to know that YOU DON'T USE LIGHTWEIGHT MATERIAL LIKE CARBON FIBER IN HIGH DENSITY SETTINGS, and especially not in the ocean. This man said, "modern submarines are still heavy and clunky!" Yeah! Because it has to be able to withstand high pressures and cold temperatures/ high temperature changes within a short-ish amount of time, all while the currents and chemical compounds of the ocean itself fights against the 1 thing keeping you ALIVE! This man had such an ego, and the more I hear about this case the more I feel like he needs to be charged for some sort of malicious conduct when putting people's lives in danger like this. He essentially took a red bull can with a plexiglass port and purposely sunk it into an olympic-sized swimming pool with dry ice at the bottom. What's worse is that he even RUSHED the project! Again, there is a reason you have all these regulations.
Shame on him and his company.
Google the Robert Stockton 1884 PEACEMAKER disaster resulting in deaths of wealthy famous passengers onboard. Modern day SR was a chip off the old block.
What do you mean he needs to be charged? The guy is dead.
@@nerdbites2212they can still sue his estate
This is an outstanding video: the historical, biographical, and technological background and explanations are superb. And, as an added bonus, the narration is pitch-perfect. Thank you.
his Grandfather Robert Stockton was responsible for the destruction of a canon, that killed 6 people and injured many others on the "Princeton", he changed the dim. and the design of a Carronade, a new sort of canon build in England. The aftermath was the explosion of the Carronade! of course he was able to evade every punishment bcs of his name!! sounds familiar? Stockton had no clue about canon engineering, but his ego was too big
@@Ezekiel903 I was running around RUclips asking WHY Mr. Rush was allowed to carry on the way that he did, even though so many insiders in the industry knew about the serious defects on this vehicle. You just made it all crystal clear. Thank you.
I agree, great summary of the story
So the company and its employees ran away. That tells me everything that I need to know about these people.
@@sadecoco1502 Stockton said it was important to him to have a young and dynamic squad that was diverse and inclusive. Experience, which is a key factor in this area, was too expensive for him, he simply said that the over-50s don't want to try new processes! But I don't blame the remaining staff! $15 an hour? And now take responsibility?
Also another note on this. I hope visits to the Titanic will stop. Unless the trips for science based. One of the more gross things that happened. People actually got married on the ship. The ship is graveyard and should be left alone. Many visitors have also helped destroy the shop faster.
Lego hair
The only person I feel bad for is that teenager that was also on the submarine. Story is he didn't even want to go, but his dad basically made him because he thought it was a good idea.
As hard as it is to say no to your parents, it's a lot worse when they have money. Mostly because the more money they have, the more they love dangling the fact that they basically own you over your head every time you want/don't want to do something. Usually at least.
Stockton Rush is a great example of how when rich people are reckless idiots they are viewed as eccentric innovators. He convinced a lot of people to go on that sub. Too bad he cant “innovate” anymore.
Stockton Rush is a great example of a real life person with Lego man hair
the last thing i expected in this video was to see macklemore
No kidding
While people rightly bring up the difference between both rescue missions, it must be rememebered that both accidents happened in different parts of the world. I live in St. John's, the home port/base for the Titan search and rescue mission, and can guarentee that the Canadian Coast Guard would have put in the same effort for each if the refugee boat also capsized in or near Canadian waters.
I think part of it was the breathless press coverage for the Titan and so little for the migrant boat. The migrants were part of a much bigger story that needs to be addressed, but let's have these five people be above the fold on national media for five days.
I haven't heard of the migrant boat or whatever you're referring to, I think that says volumes
@@industrialover Maybe that's because you don't follow news because I heard of it. The Titan sub is just a more of an interesting news story. The boat sinking is tragic but it's not a very compelling new story. A bunch of migrants got on very overcrowded and leaky boat and sank, it happened before and it will happen again.
@kbird6208 Agreed. The press coverage of both events were definitely unequal. They decided to focus on the more 'entertaining' event instead of the more important one.
@@dopecat4012I’m sorry but you’re saying a BOAT SINKING isn’t an interesting story? Literally the Titan story respawned people’s obsession with a damn ship sinking. 🤦🏻
I think this is my favorite Ocean Gate / Stockton Rush video so far. It's the most comprehensive. I like how it really went into the guy's background, for better and worse.
Stockton was the first human person to achieve perfect Lego man hair using his own natural human hair
My Dad and brother both work in the field of non-destructive testing (NDT). It's a specialized field, not very many people actually work in NDT. In simple terms, NDT is designed to measure the structural integrity of materials without causing damage to the material being tested. This is performed with various complex methods, there's quite a lot of physics involved that I personally don't have the knowledge to explain.
It's insane to me that the Titan sub underwent ZERO NDT. They knew that carbon fibre was a risky material in the first place, but the fact that they didn't use NDT means they would have no way of knowing how severe the situation was becoming. If Rush cared enough that anything could save his life, NDT would have saved him and everyone else on that sub, it also would have revealed how unsuitable carbon fibre really is for this purpose.
Using weal material like carbon fibre with glue and under rated glass window were already big signs of suicidal mission
Impressive documentary June. I'm a docent at Morven, the home built by Stockton's ancestor, Richard Stockton which is now a Museum in Princeton. Several generations of Stocktons including Navy Commodore Robert Stockton(grandson of the Signer) lived at Morven, so when I heard about this I felt a haunting feeling of coincidence to the Peacemaker tragedy in 1844. If you google "Stockton peacemaker disaster" there is information about the event. Commodore Stockton had intense interest in Naval architecture and canon design. Some of the most remarkable similarities to me are 1) the materials decisions used 2) the lack of needed testing and 3) the warnings from John Ericsson. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the connection.
Would be interesting to add this historical info to this video!
I still think it’s rather funny to know that Josh Gates, mad lad extraordinaire and man most likely to die chasing cryptids, refused to get on the sub.
Question -- If we take the leaked transcript as accurate about the warning alerts and imagine that the crew somehow made it back before the implosion - would Ocean Gate halted dives and done testing? Or would they be so impressed with the success of the warning systems that they continue as normal? Discuss
They would have continued diving without a thorough investigation. He didn't care about safety at all.
They had problems before this, on pretty much every dive Titan did there was a problem. All ignored by the looks of it
Isador and Ida Strauss weren’t even that old when they courageously gave up their seats on a lifeboat on the Titanic. 67 & 63. They both likely sacrificed a solid
ten to twenty more years
of living. Heroes👏🏼💙.
As someone of a similar age and not to diminish Mrs. Strauss, her age at the time was considered older than it is today. It wasn't that log ago that if you died in your 60s the only cause given was "natural causes"
@@adamwatson6916 it's sweet though...
Your talking over 100 years ago. Life expectancy then would be lower than it is today. You are looking at the early 50’s not the 80+ it is today,
@@helenllama While life expectancy was lower in the past, it's important to remember that that math usually includes infant mortality, which has (thankfully) reduced over the years. When you had lived to a comfortable adulthood, it's not hard to find historical records of people living to ages fairly similar to today. Isador's brothers lived to 82 and 75, so it's not a stretch to imagine Isador and his wife could have done the same.
"It needlessly prioritized passenger safety."
By the Gods, this man was ASKING for it.
At NO point is safety just a waste. Human life is priceless and irreplaceable.
"At some point, safety is pure waste" sounds like it would be a perfect epitaph to carve onto his grave stone. If there was actually a body to bury, of course.
That's not to say that all risk-takers are idiots. Progress always requires risk, but that risk needs to be calculated and managed and people who don't fully understand the risks should never be exposed to them.
We need risk-takers in society, just not the Stockton Rush kind who treated both the calculus of risk and the laws of physics with contempt. It's funny that his story intersects with the story of Pete Conrad, because as a test pilot and astronaut, Conrad was the sort of person who was aware of risk and was prepared to take calculated risks to advance the sphere of human knowledge, not the kind to needlessly throw his life away on a stunt.
Stockton Rush was suffering from a Fatal Dose of Main Character Syndrome... it sucks he took all those people with him just to feed his ego... this is what happens when you have all the money you can ever spend and been told all your life that you are special and the rules don't apply... he had so much money and "power" that he wasnt even human anymore... not really...
Stockton and Oceangate were running out of money. His 12 million isn't going to cover the typical 50-100 million to design and built a deep sea vessel
I knew this guy had money but I had no idea he was this plugged in. Declaration of Independence signer ancestors, recent relative was a founding member of Bohemian Grove, wife is an heiress to the Strauss'. I mean wow
Guess what the lake in the Bohemian Grove was named until recently.... Moloch Lake. 5 years ago this name was on Google maps but no longer. Go figure.
Bohemian Grove tells me all I need to know about him.
And yet this guy now gets to go down in history as a better example of hubris than Icarus himself
And still cut corners
and none of it mattered when he got crushed by his own recklessness
He got the parts for the craft shopping like a billionaire on Temu.
Adventurers and gamblers may seem cool in movies, but the last thing you want an irl engineer to be is a risk-taker
The arrogance and narcissistic of one man killed four people, but then again, if it was my life in the line I would’ve make sure that sub was well built. If you don’t care about stuff like safety then you got what you deserved. You missed the part where the CEO said “the titan is invulnerable” and the reporter replied back “that’s what the owner of the titanic said” and Rush said “you bet”.
Thats bullshit … all customers knew the risks … there were enough information available! Stockton praised his shit … well, he has to … thats normal its his product … that depth … something goes wrong … all or nothing … high possibility of death …
He is such an obnoxious and arrogant person. Listening to him speak is insufferable
So you check your cars engineering drawings?
You check your airbag company specifications?
Do you stress test your seatbelt?
Cars are much more dangerous than submersibles... and no, it is not different.
It's the businesses job to check that, not the customer.
@@CheeryRhymes Ironically you're supposed to do the third every year, according to the theory half of the exam on your driver's license, at least in Canada.
Also in there, you need to make sure your airbag isn't expired every five years and replace it when it is, so while you don't need the company's specifications you need to know your airbag's certifications because that would include the expiry date.
Also also, your car's engineering drawings (or rather the full engineering plan, with all parts labelled), ought to be in your car's user manual. (At least, it was in the cars I owned, I avoid computer-ladden crap because I like it when I can just get my car fixed with pieces from manufacturers or cannibalized from other cars that were sold to be dismantled. Getting the giant eldritch tome of a car manual is worth it specifically because of the diagrams telling you how to put it together and take it apart yourself.)
So given you SHOULD familiarize yourself with your car manual, yes, you should check your char's engineering plans and make sure that nothing is blatantly out by doing a walk-around visual scan before you get into the car, too. (Every time before you drive, for that one, that's also in the test to get a driver's license.)
Most tourists don't check every safety detail. They're not meant to as.theyve paid others to do it and they are not experts. Doing research on your own if you're not an expert can lead to all sorts of false conclusions. They signed up in good faith that the company.had done its due diligence, like most tourism companies do.
I've been so obsessed with this Titan submersible subject since I heard of the lost contact on Father's Day. I always try to look for daily or weekly updates on the news and RUclips, but most of the content I find is the same thing over and over again. This video is by far the most informative, original and interesting documentary I've seen to date. Good job on the research and looks like a lot of hard work was put into making it.
The coast guard site is where to go. They are the ones doing the investgating. It states the investigation could take 12-24 mos. There won't be updates. Only hyped up non stories by social media and reporters.
I kept waiting for updates because deep down, no pun intended, I thought "There's no way a sub that was designed to go all the way to the ocean floor suffered catastrophic failure before making it one third of the way there."
Then he details about how many corners were cut in designing that deathtrapt started coming to light...
Stockton Rush had an engineering degree, which is worse because he should have understood that everything he was doing was wrong.
Now I'd love to be able to see the ocean and shipwrecks up close (especially the Titanic) but I would never pay a company that cuts so many corners and doesn't actually care about regulations to do so.
I’d never known that James Cameron is actually a sub/ocean expert. Also, this documentary is fantastic and so in depth! I haven’t seen a lot of the videos you put in.
Cameron had the good sense to know his limits and surround himself with real experts who knew something about submarines and submersibles.
he is an owner of Triton Submarines which builds crafts that have gone to the Titanic dozens of times as well as craft that reach the ocean floor. go look at the professionally made submersibles than contrast them with the made in a backyard shed craft Stockton was proud of.
He was involved in the design and manufacture of Deepsea Challenger, his sub for his journey to The deepest point in the ocean.
Amazing work as usual, and so fast! Everyone has said their piece on youtube already, but you're the first documentary channel I've seen with this kind of long form information. Well done
This is by far the best documentary coverage of the Oceangate story and tragic event.
Really curious to know what he hired teenagers to do for $15 hr.
My father-in-law recently retired after decades of being a Nuclear Submarine engineer. I hatw to share this video with him when I can SEE his reactions.
I would also love to hear your FIN’s reaction.
Make sure you film his reactions 😂
The worst part of this disaster is that the idiot behind it is dead. I have a background in electronics and the exposed wiring on that thing makes my eye twitch. Even if the pressure hull held, a curious squid or random fish could have killed everyone on board.
Not to mention intending to explore a shipwreck when the steering only works sometimes.
Supposedly college students designed all of the electrical systems - which had ongoing problems prior to the fatal dive
Didn't go to space because he didn't want to be a "tourist"... dies spectacularly during a tourist excursion in the ocean...
As a health and safety consultant myself, with clients across many industries…well, that title was basically snuff pron.
But seriously, hubris is the word I’ve probably used the most to describe this entire farce.
"Bringing an outside entity up to speed on every innovation before it is put into real world testing is an anathema to rapid innovation." - Stockton Rush. - Proving Rush thought "rapid innovation" was more important than safety..
Proof that even the most highly educated and overly privileged can also be complete and utter idiots
"It needlessly prioritized passenger safety." Thank god his fascination was with the ocean and not nuclear energy.
Truly a "Rush Job"
Also, "rapid innovation" for what!? Deep water exploration is pretty well understood by now. Carbon fiber was, and mostly still is, largely ignored as a deep water material for a reason. This guy just wanted notoriety. He got it, that's for sure. But he's dead, took other people down with him, and doesn't even know what he's noted for.
Yeah, I'm sure he really pat himself on the back for saying that. He thought he was so cool & smart. Geez.
at 29:22 you mention that the hull was rebuilt at janicki industries. I've toured their manufacturing facility in Washington and they are the real deal. Their manufacturing rooms account for the curvature and spin of the earth. I'm shocked that they even agreed to work on this but it's probably because they are an aerospace company and were just working off of what Stockton told them.
I appreciate the research and lack of sensationalism in this documentary. As always, the video was educational and un-put-downable. 😊
Like everyone else I was fascinated by this story and I've watched a ton of videos on the tragedy.
In one of them they were showing excerpts from interviews of "mission specialists" from a previous trip. He used to be my boss, we still talk on Facebook. His name is Derek and man, little did I know how loaded he was. He went last year and is lucky to be alive today.
Hell, even Tony Stark stress tested his suit in Iron Man then immediately used that against the villain of the movie Obadiah who did not know at a certian altitude the suit would ice up and fail. So Stockton Rush is literally more arrogant than a character who was self admittedly and exaggeratedly egotistical ☠️☠️☠️ great video, everything i learned about this guy suggests he *never* should have been in the deep ocean and certainly had no business taking other people there.
Storytelling skills are ON POINT girl!
She didn’t mention he had Lego man hair
It is SO sad that 4 other people died in a terrifying, preventable way (including a 19-year old kid) just because of Rush's anti-safety, mercenary hubris.
Ive spent ALL day bingeing on your videos. Well done
Back in the 1990’s in the course of my work, I had occasion to be transported in an open boat across a bay of the North Atlantic on the eastern shore of Newfoundland, roughly 900 miles vis-à-vis from where the Titanic lies. The seas were considered to be "calm", which is why we attempted it, but I found the experience so harrowing, the tossing and heaving, that I still remember it clearly, and would never attempt it again. If that was the kind of sea that the Titan was towed through, and over that great distance, then it was certainly a foolhardy and dangerous thing to do. Who knows what damage that might have inflicted on the eggshell-like submersible.
Thank goodness he didnt build it bigger so that more people could fit in there, what a bigger disaster that would be.
I'm not an expert in anything, I know very little about the creation of vehicles of any kind. Yet I still had a feeling in my gut that something wasn't right when I heard that the hull of the Titan was carbon fibre while the caps were titanium. I didn't know why until I actually started looking a little deeper, and I'm still appalled by just how little that one detail seemed to matter after learning just how flimsy the Titan was.
Thank you for this documentary! You provided info I hadn't seen before about Rush's career.
Ending with James Cameron's comments was perfect. He had the best voice while the Titan implosion news was breaking and explains it directly, expertly, and without hubris.
" At first they call you crazy , then they fight you , then you change the pressure inside the cabin "
Stockton Rush's purpose in life was to serve as a warning to others
I think it's so important that you started off with his family history. Only someone raised in those circles could value "innovation" so highly over people's lives
The Titanic engineers: "This ship is unsinkable."
Stockton Rush: "This sub is uncrushable."
How could he call it 'innovation' when he was just using off-the-shelf products, some of which were expired and which were widely known to be inferior from a physics standpoint? It's terrifying that he believed his desire to cobble together some crap and call it progress, dismissing the safety of the passengers he was testing his crap on, is what passes for 'innovation' in our corporate sector
It's like those cardboard boat contests except those people know to stay near land.
Properly designed submersibles have already been build and have already gone much deeper. He reminds me of someone strapping an Acme rocket to his back, getting on a bicycle and claiming to have pioneered the invention of the motorcycle.
What amazes me is not that he tried to sell permission to ride on this deathtrap, but he was willing to go on it himself
What amazes me was his amazing Lego man hairstyle
This is so good and well made! I learned a lot of things that I didn't know about this tragedy. Thank you for doing incredible research and leaving irrelevant personal opinions out of the video. I love that you always keep it factual.
❤These are really GREAT documentaries. Super well put together.
They can put that on his tombstone. “Safety is a waste.”.
The most iconic quote from the one who literally blew himself up 😂
Imagine what Stockton could have done, if he had chosen to do it the RIGHT way. The safety measures, the right metals, just all the right things. He could have done so much more. Smdh.
Google the 1884 Peacemaker disaster - a flawed design by his relative Robert Stockton that killed people as well.
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"Needlessly prioritizes safety of passagengers" that mentality is what killed him.
So instead of engineering reliability into the system, the approach was to DETECT imminent failure, then pray to J that you'll have enough time to do something about it?