Great video! I am able to get A bunch of these wink relays for cheap. Is this hack still relevant today August 30, 2021? Supposedly there is a $5/month fee from wink. Do I need to pay this fee if I am using your hack?
Still works, the Android OS on the WINK is getting dated (version 5), but it is what it is. When downloading the APK's just use the older versions and not the very latest.
Finally got mine to display a flip clock! Good enough for me since this has been permanently mounted to my wall and displaying a log in screen for months.
Quick question please. I have Wink and the Ring. My Wink is used to control my Schlage Connect wireless door lock. I can access my Ring app with my Wink app however it goes to the Play Store page for the Ring and forces me to open it there. I have a Samsung Galaxy S10. Though on my old Samsung Tab A it works perfectly. Wink support hasn't gotten back to me about this issue.
Just performed a factory reset / wipe on my Wink Relay a couple of days ago. This still works. One caveat - when I did this four months ago (and again two days ago), I force-stopped the WinkUpgrade v1.1 app AFTER the major update that is applied when you login to the Wink Relay app for the first time. That major update gets you to software (firmware) version 1.0.602. With this software version, you can still customize your launcher and third-party passwords are not erased every hour. Any additional updates to the Wink Relay firmware will likely hose your edison.zip file and the ability to keep this thing running and perhaps be able to reset it. I was still able to install and run the latest wink - smart home app v. 6.9.0.70. From here on out, I just make sure and avoid the "Software Update" that is offered when viewing the Wink Relay from inside the Wink app, or when the Wink Relay app is opened. Running: Apex Launcher (nice details like no widget borders, etc) v. 3.3.3 - APKPure v. 4.0.1 was corrupt Multi-Action Home Screen Button APKPure Lightify (Gardenspot color looping not available with Wink) Digital Clock Widget (nice widget) v. 3.0.2 Pandora (bluetooth to home stereo) v. 6.6.1 - supports Pandora Plus, not Premium TuneIn Radio Weather Underground (owned by Accuweather, like their widget) Here are shots of my three home screen pages: 1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMG20bg5aPCCJxZRg 1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMI5uEXgJaePKeAoA 1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMK9eB_LiLDn5FZPA
Thanks for the post, agreed it still works as I did one too the other day, you just have to not upgrade it first, I think I originally said that somewhere but it's been a while.
it wants to perform another update after the first one - that second one causes the logging out of third-party apps every hour or so and other draconian behavior. This is relevant to those who want to keep the Wink integration.
Still working. Just did this again today trying to fix the Wink Relay Weather widget, but this may be broken at Wink. Note, there are several Assistive Touch apk files available. Tech Fan's video looks like he selects "Assistive Touch for Android".
Excellent job! Inspired me to take the plunge after picking up an open box Wink Relay at HD last week for $56. I particularly liked the idea of using a computer power cord (dozens of those lying around!!!) and "mounting" the WR in a box (USPS Priority Mail Small Box is PERFECT for this. I can't even imagine the agony of setting up a WR that is already mounted in a wall. After installing the "Assistive Touch for Android (Assistive Touch Team)" and "Total Launcher", it is very important to reboot the device BEFORE logging into the Wink Relay (and maybe the Wink) app(s). The update that is forced into the Relay after logging in the first time will uninstall ALL browsers, successfully disable the above modifications if the WR has not already rebooted, and otherwise create havoc with this procedure. This happened to me the first time, but thank goodness both a factory reset and image restore got me back to step 1. Not sure if both were required, but it worked. No luck in getting "OK Google" to work yet, however. Still looking for the GPS version number that works with Android Jelly Bean 4.3. Once the Wink features are up and running satisfactorily, it may be desirable to take advantage of the individual app permission modification feature "app ops" of Android 4.3 and disable Wink Upgrade appropriately. Still figuring out which app (hopefully free) can accomplish this task.
The last task in the video which is step 5 is to reboot and then login because it will do just what you said, I am working on a followup video right now with some tips and tricks, I will add that. Google Play Services works and is needed to load apps like Amazon Music but the Google Play store will not work unless you "KingRoot" the device. I would only suggest that for folks who are not going to be using WINK and use it for Smartthings and or other services that require you to stay logged in all the time. There is a modified WINK Relay APK that works too after rooting, but rooting the device carries risk in bricking it if you make a mistake or something goes south. You can fixed a bricked device but need a serial cable to connect to it to restore the Edison.zip file. The factory reset works well and will take you back to the start but I don't suggest doing too often as I have read some folks bricking it too with flashing it too many times. If you want to stop WINK from turning the screen off you can force the app to stop running and if you do a few times it will totally stop from reloading up. This is useful if you want to keep the screen alive all the time but most don't. I will post the video late tomorrow with more tips and tricks that I have come across. The wall controller / relay is great for $50 and gets the job done but has limitations as many have noted. Thanks!
Hi, I just recently came across your video, very helpful! I just got 1 question, how you managed to get the "OK Google" to work on your google app from the Google launcher home screen? TIA
Do you need to add this via Wink first before you do any hacks or are you using it just like your phone via the app? I have a new Relay in the box but never used it and was wondering if this will make it useful. So do I install via Wink then follow the video.... or are there newer steps and apps. I use Alexa at home too, so would like to use that instead of google
You do not need to add it to wink, factory fresh is best. Just follow the video, the steps take you from Wink to not Wink, you just need to start when it's time to get to the internal browser. If you need more help I can find the exact time of the video but you should be able to see it.
Tech Fan Hi, I started to do this but I failed at the first hurdle. The downloading of the apk’s, it just does not do anything and says the downloads are unsuccessful. As I mentioned, this is the first time I have powered this up since I bought it 2 years ago (long story) so I have not done anything to it. It did allow me to set up the developer (7 clicks on about) and also install from other sources but I am stuck there as I have no home or back key I have to keep powering down....any clues/tips?
Great video. If we do this, do we only get 2 buttons on the relay wink, or do we also get to see all the lights and switches tiles that i have on my Hubitat on the wink relay?
Could you please tell me if this hack would allow me to use my wink relays if i switch to the Samsung Smart Things Hub. I am wanting to move to smart things to allow for Konnect alarm systems to be activated and it is only available on Smart Things and not Wink.I am very happy with Wink, but would very much like to add the Konnect Alarm system so sadly dont have a choice unless i dont go ahead with Konnect. But because i have a Wink hub and wink relays i was hoping to still use the wink relays with the smart things as i dont want to have to give the relays up. Hopefully you can help or shed light on this matter, i must warn you i am not very tech savoy, just enough to get by.
You would be able to use it as any android phone / tablet. Basically under the hood is exactly that. The relay buttons on the right require some special programming so don't expect those to work as they do on WINK.
This Video is awesome, but I have a problem: the Winkrelay screen doesn't change! I have pressed the reset button several times and still that screen comes back doing nothing. any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
The Wink does not do voice natively but does fully support Alexa and Google. I use it with the cheap echo's in each room and it works just fine for controlling WINK modules. You can use WINK to control zwave plugin models for lamps and similar items. You buy the WINK Hub and pair it will Echo as well, you can also go the Smartthings route too. Let me know if you need more help, willing to guide you?
Just doing this to my relays, but stumbling on Google now launcher and "ok Google" detection. What versions of that and play services should be installed?
Good morning, Tech Fan. First, let me say thanks for posting this. It is very helpful. I do have a question for you. How did you get Google Now Launcher to work? I downloaded the apk but it says I need a newer version of Google Play Services. I downloaded that but it will not install.
@@TechFan Thanks. I managed to get Google Now Launcher and Google Play Services to install. I still have not figured out how to keep the notification panel available. When the Relay is restarted, it is there but then the Relay software login comes on screen. I go back to home (which I have set as Google Now Launcher) and the wallpaper is not there, the notification panel is not there and the screen never goes to sleep. I have uninstalled the Wink Relay app within the launcher but apparently the thing still tries to be the boss of the device. Is there a way to remove it from the Relay completely? I am not physically connecting anything to the 2 switches so I don't need it added to my Wink and prefer to access Wink with the Wink app versus the Relay software.
You can solely use it with SmartThings but you need to root it as I show in my other video's. If you don't root it, you will keep getting logged out of SmartThings. When you root it you can also install the Google Play Store too. After rooting you can remove Wink too if you are not using it at all plus install a full screen app etc. I show all of this expect the actual SmartThings install. If I get time I will make a video of exactly that but since the Wink Wall unit was discontinued by Wink I haven't put any time into new videos for it.
thanks! Lots of good launchers for downloading that do most of the work, it's just a matter of placement for the most part. The harder part is getting everything all set for your application use (Automation / convenience) and practical use etc. You can also connect the relay to bluetooth speakers, I found that very helpful for using it as whole hose music controller. Sonos works great too as well as some other streaming apps including it will tie into Alexia if you have that or google home.
Awesome video Tech Fan! Super informative - and helped me to unbrick my Wink Relay from over 1.5 years ago when I first explored this process. Thanks for spending the time to document all the steps as well as provide insight on how to avoid common pitfalls. That said, was wondering if you could share how to do this : "You can also default the display to stay on all the time if you do not like the sensor or tap to display feature. " as you mention this in your notes. I have security camera software running on the Wink Relay, and I'd prefer that it's always on. Thanks
@@junw3199 that's the one place where you can't change the behavior if you are using the relay buttons. In order to stop the process that keeps track of the display you have to move over to the android version of WINK but that version does not support the relay buttons natively. Not to say it can't be done with a workaround because you can but it's way too much work.
So close :) sadly not much new stuff with the WINK these days, wish they would add more products, but as a wall mount doing other stuff for me it's a gem. I picked up 4 of them when they went on close out, gave one away as a gift.
Yes it should be able to, you just have to load any app that controls this function. It's basically an android table on the wall. Only issue is that it's an older version of Android so you need to sometimes use older version of the APP from APK repository.
Great video . I did run into some issue though . Not sure this happened to you or no but I was having trouble launching some apps such as Vesync , Amazon music then I realized that google play service and google Play store needs to be installed in-order for the other apps to work .
I had loaded that as well when I was installing apps during the video but didn't note it and I didn't think about the link between it an other apps, I will add it to the notes, good catch! Thanks!
Try Nova Launcher on it . You may like it . I am using it on mine . When I have time I will make a video as well and share about my Automation home set up . Do you have any idea about "ImperiIhome" types of app that is free and don't have to subscribe ?
Nova is another good one. I looked up "Imperlihome" but key will be for me with any of the all in one is how well it works with my (eco system) WINK Hub, Alexia and security setup. I will also try to do an updated video with what it looks like after customization in the end. Also I think you only need Google Play Service for loading some apps and getting the Play store to actaully work takes some work and patience.
Hello, thanks for this great video. I’ve been trying to get my SONOS app to work but is not letting me. It says “the software on this device is outdated”. Have you come around with a solution for this? Thanks again
I think the Android OS on the WINK relay is becoming too far outdated for the current apps. I am sad to say it's useful life is turning a corner for the worse. I also hear that trying to root has become more difficult due to the newer root tools not having support for that version of OS.
Yes they do, there is a program for that if you want to link it to another hub. STWinkRelay APK 30 or follow this - if you moved to habitat like I di - community.hubitat.com/t/beta-wink-relay-lan-integration/272
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Set to 15 seconds still stays on indefinitely. I’m going to try the entire process from the beginning again to see if I missed something along the way. Thank you so much for replying looks like it’s been a while since anyone has left a comment. I appreciate your time.
Wondering if this is still working. I can’t seem to download any apks, they seem to start and then disappear so I can’t even get the chance to install.
Yes I did, as you see in the video the other end went into an outlet. That was just for the video and or someone setting up the controller before installing.
Great vid. Easy to follow, very detailed! Keep these up! BTW I did hack mine a while back its okay...honestly just too slow and very limited on what I REALLY want to run on it. Like having spotify on it, and playing music to the Echo...but spotify will crash the device running it out of memory. Too bad wink will not make a new updated version.
I find that the latest Total Launcher and Google Now desktops are fast with the apps being fairly response and working well for a on the wall device. For $75 is a steal and will work for quick access to lights, music and information widgets. It's not like the latest smart phone or tablet on the market with the super fast chips but still a good value and use. Thanks for the comments, video took a long time to complete. I am working on an update for a Star Trek interface, more tips on cool applications and or uses etc. PS - I tried Spotify and it didn't crash, widget worked fine too.
It seems to me that wink or someone has managed to get in and ixnay this process. I have tried to watch this and follow along pausing and getting through it, but i seem to get hung up when trying to install the wink app from APK. it says unknown application and will not allow for install. please let me know if there is a new way around this or if I missed a step somewhere. :(
I doubt they did anything different to stop it as they no longer support the device. Before you tried what I showed step by step did you do it from a factory fresh or after it was updated from WINK to the latest version of their last release?
Hi thanks for this. I’ve come across a problem on three of the relays I have tried this on. I get “unfortunately, wink relay has stopped” so it quits, and then also it’s unable to update my brand new Relays to the current software version. Anyone else having these issues? Thanks
Are you taking the wink relay from factory fresh or factory restore and applying the changes per the video? After you do so the Wink app quits? Did you first configure the wink relay software, update then follow the video? Generally when you want to add the the other apps you want to get rid of the built in wink relay app and use the standard android version, only downfall is if you are using the buttons on the right you need to do additional work to get those working outside of the built in app. The Wink Relay has an older version of the Android operating system and as time goes it will be less compatible with the newer apps being released. With that said it still works will everything that is out there and shown. I suggest if you are going hybrid and keeping the wink software intact you should keep the extra apps to a minimum. The Wink Relay is limited in memory and CPU which is a shame as it's a great wall controller but quickly falling out of date. When the app quits what happens? does it just restart?
Tech Fan , thanks so much for the reply. Yes I was following the instructions per your video. I had the same issue for a two year old relay as well as a fresh one (I was able to pick up four from HD the other day). So I’m able to set them up as you advise, but after I reboot and log in, it seems to work for a short while, it then tries to auto-update, when I run into issues. It basically can’t do the software update and then after some time quits the app with the error that it’s stopped. Restarting the wink helps for a time, but issue will reoccur. I spoke to wink support and apparently they have a recent issue they are trying to fix with regard to the software updates. Hopefully that’s true! I do use the switch buttons, which is why I want the native software working. Thanks again. Keep up the great vids!
Are you saying there is no way to stop the auto-update, I remember being able to suppress any updates and also remember applying the update with it still working fine? I haven't done one of these in a while and maybe the latest updated software they are pushing has made changes which is the actual issue as you noted. The downfall of these relays is that WINK has stopped production and software updates are at will and not a must to continue support of it. Sad, I wish they were really popular and had an option to release an updated version with more CPU and memory. To date I can't find a good all in one wall replacement that connects direct to 120v.
Options are that you can load a few apps that force it to stop or just force it close a few times. You can can root it and then unload it, and load the google WINK version which is the same. Only downfall is the loss of the buttons when going that route. . Did you upgrade WINK or is it at the factory reset or new out of the box version?
Make sure you are connected your wireless network, if all else fails you can always factory reset it and start over, make sure not to upgrade it first.
This is now even more important since WINK is going to charge for WINK.. You can also follow this doc for Hubitat - community.hubitat.com/t/beta-wink-relay-lan-integration/272
Oh dang, Did I read the notes correctly? . . . There's no more Wink Relay?? (dated Jan 2018) Man, just watched 10 vid's about this and got all excited about getting one! whaa! . . . . . . .So, Okay. What should I find thats nifty?
They are on eBay for 65.00 new or about that. Software on them is still supported and working fine as it stands or if you want change to be an android OS controller. Note that if you really are just looking for an android device to put on the wall there are many other options that have newer faster hardware for about the same just a hair more. The mount into an outlet is the best feature and ease, the downside is the hardware is older and there are no updates for the underlying OS (Android). With that said there are still updates for WINK and WINK is still selling stuff.
@@TechFan i tried to go.on your website to buy a relay that was already hacked. But it looks like website is down. Do u still sell any that are already hacked? Thanks
@@bizoyd29 I was not the one selling them but they are for sale on eBay for about $60. Just get one there and have at it. It's fairly easy to get it going and nothing is perfect with it. Note that you cannot update the android OS and or its limited CPU speed will limit how far you can really take it. A wall mounted tablet or iPAD is the way to go right now. Only advantage is the built in native WINK relay for two light switches but that's about it.
not sure what part you are at, you can also use an older package if the latest does not work. WINK relay android version is version 4.x, really old but still works. This device is not long for the world...
Did you first enable the debug mode Enable Android USB Debugging Mode Go to Android home screen. Pull down the notification bar. Tap "Settings" Tap "About Device" Tap on the "Build Number" button about 7 times. Developer Mode should now be unlocked and available in Settings > More > Developer Options.
@@TechFan Really apreciate the reaply it worked and now i have it ty :), also is thier a way to mae the screen stay on and also a way to get premium weather app as I h8 adds and pop ups
Yes it does but you have to load the correct version for Jelly Bean 4.3. One can also root the device to take it a step further to free the wall controller totally of WINK should you not own any WINK devices. I will work on a step by step for both Rooting and the Play Store in the near future.
How to identify "correct version for Jelly Bean 4.3"? I tried 9.4.52 (20171116) and it seems to succeed. But Google > Settings > Voice > "OK Google" detection continues to be stuck "retrieving settings"
If you install and run "Kingroot" and then use "Root Package Disabler" to disable wink, then run a few commands the latest google play store version will work but unless you really need the play store I don't suggest rooting it.
Nice, I will give it a shot later, I am trying to get the video done with all the tips, so I will look to include this. I knew it was a combo of older versions thanks for posting it as many ask.
@@verebs1 thanks so much for your reply and taking the time. Your awsome. I'll give it a shot. If you have any sires that I can download from would be great. Thanks again
Great video! I am able to get A bunch of these wink relays for cheap. Is this hack still relevant today August 30, 2021? Supposedly there is a $5/month fee from wink. Do I need to pay this fee if I am using your hack?
Still works, the Android OS on the WINK is getting dated (version 5), but it is what it is. When downloading the APK's just use the older versions and not the very latest.
Finally got mine to display a flip clock! Good enough for me since this has been permanently mounted to my wall and displaying a log in screen for months.
Quick question please. I have Wink and the Ring. My Wink is used to control my Schlage Connect wireless door lock. I can access my Ring app with my Wink app however it goes to the Play Store page for the Ring and forces me to open it there. I have a Samsung Galaxy S10. Though on my old Samsung Tab A it works perfectly. Wink support hasn't gotten back to me about this issue.
Just performed a factory reset / wipe on my Wink Relay a couple of days ago. This still works. One caveat - when I did this four months ago (and again two days ago), I force-stopped the WinkUpgrade v1.1 app AFTER the major update that is applied when you login to the Wink Relay app for the first time.
That major update gets you to software (firmware) version 1.0.602. With this software version, you can still customize your launcher and third-party passwords are not erased every hour. Any additional updates to the Wink Relay firmware will likely hose your edison.zip file and the ability to keep this thing running and perhaps be able to reset it. I was still able to install and run the latest wink - smart home app v. 6.9.0.70.
From here on out, I just make sure and avoid the "Software Update" that is offered when viewing the Wink Relay from inside the Wink app, or when the Wink Relay app is opened.
Running:
Apex Launcher (nice details like no widget borders, etc) v. 3.3.3 - APKPure v. 4.0.1 was corrupt
Multi-Action Home Screen Button
APKPure
Lightify (Gardenspot color looping not available with Wink)
Digital Clock Widget (nice widget) v. 3.0.2
Pandora (bluetooth to home stereo) v. 6.6.1 - supports Pandora Plus, not Premium
TuneIn Radio
Weather Underground (owned by Accuweather, like their widget)
Here are shots of my three home screen pages:
1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMG20bg5aPCCJxZRg
1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMI5uEXgJaePKeAoA
1drv.ms/u/s!Auc5ch0CTcmUjZMK9eB_LiLDn5FZPA
Thanks for the post, agreed it still works as I did one too the other day, you just have to not upgrade it first, I think I originally said that somewhere but it's been a while.
it wants to perform another update after the first one - that second one causes the logging out of third-party apps every hour or so and other draconian behavior. This is relevant to those who want to keep the Wink integration.
Still working. Just did this again today trying to fix the Wink Relay Weather widget, but this may be broken at Wink.
Note, there are several Assistive Touch apk files available. Tech Fan's video looks like he selects "Assistive Touch for Android".
Excellent job! Inspired me to take the plunge after picking up an open box Wink Relay at HD last week for $56. I particularly liked the idea of using a computer power cord (dozens of those lying around!!!) and "mounting" the WR in a box (USPS Priority Mail Small Box is PERFECT for this. I can't even imagine the agony of setting up a WR that is already mounted in a wall.
After installing the "Assistive Touch for Android (Assistive Touch Team)" and "Total Launcher", it is very important to reboot the device BEFORE logging into the Wink Relay (and maybe the Wink) app(s). The update that is forced into the Relay after logging in the first time will uninstall ALL browsers, successfully disable the above modifications if the WR has not already rebooted, and otherwise create havoc with this procedure.
This happened to me the first time, but thank goodness both a factory reset and image restore got me back to step 1. Not sure if both were required, but it worked.
No luck in getting "OK Google" to work yet, however. Still looking for the GPS version number that works with Android Jelly Bean 4.3. Once the Wink features are up and running satisfactorily, it may be desirable to take advantage of the individual app permission modification feature "app ops" of Android 4.3 and disable Wink Upgrade appropriately. Still figuring out which app (hopefully free) can accomplish this task.
The last task in the video which is step 5 is to reboot and then login because it will do just what you said, I am working on a followup video right now with some tips and tricks, I will add that. Google Play Services works and is needed to load apps like Amazon Music but the Google Play store will not work unless you "KingRoot" the device. I would only suggest that for folks who are not going to be using WINK and use it for Smartthings and or other services that require you to stay logged in all the time. There is a modified WINK Relay APK that works too after rooting, but rooting the device carries risk in bricking it if you make a mistake or something goes south. You can fixed a bricked device but need a serial cable to connect to it to restore the Edison.zip file. The factory reset works well and will take you back to the start but I don't suggest doing too often as I have read some folks bricking it too with flashing it too many times. If you want to stop WINK from turning the screen off you can force the app to stop running and if you do a few times it will totally stop from reloading up. This is useful if you want to keep the screen alive all the time but most don't. I will post the video late tomorrow with more tips and tricks that I have come across. The wall controller / relay is great for $50 and gets the job done but has limitations as many have noted. Thanks!
Hi, I just recently came across your video, very helpful! I just got 1 question, how you managed to get the "OK Google" to work on your google app from the Google launcher home screen? TIA
Do you need to add this via Wink first before you do any hacks or are you using it just like your phone via the app? I have a new Relay in the box but never used it and was wondering if this will make it useful. So do I install via Wink then follow the video.... or are there newer steps and apps. I use Alexa at home too, so would like to use that instead of google
You do not need to add it to wink, factory fresh is best. Just follow the video, the steps take you from Wink to not Wink, you just need to start when it's time to get to the internal browser. If you need more help I can find the exact time of the video but you should be able to see it.
Tech Fan Hi, I started to do this but I failed at the first hurdle. The downloading of the apk’s, it just does not do anything and says the downloads are unsuccessful. As I mentioned, this is the first time I have powered this up since I bought it 2 years ago (long story) so I have not done anything to it. It did allow me to set up the developer (7 clicks on about) and also install from other sources but I am stuck there as I have no home or back key I have to keep powering down....any clues/tips?
Great video. If we do this, do we only get 2 buttons on the relay wink, or do we also get to see all the lights and switches tiles that i have on my Hubitat on the wink relay?
Yes you can, via the browser, I loaded Firefox on mine and can see all of my tiles on the dashboard.
Could you please tell me if this hack would allow me to use my wink relays if i switch to the Samsung Smart Things Hub. I am wanting to move to smart things to allow for Konnect alarm systems to be activated and it is only available on Smart Things and not Wink.I am very happy with Wink, but would very much like to add the Konnect Alarm system so sadly dont have a choice unless i dont go ahead with Konnect. But because i have a Wink hub and wink relays i was hoping to still use the wink relays with the smart things as i dont want to have to give the relays up. Hopefully you can help or shed light on this matter, i must warn you i am not very tech savoy, just enough to get by.
You would be able to use it as any android phone / tablet. Basically under the hood is exactly that. The relay buttons on the right require some special programming so don't expect those to work as they do on WINK.
This Video is awesome, but I have a problem: the Winkrelay screen doesn't change! I have pressed the reset button several times and still that screen comes back doing nothing. any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
Has anyone installed the ring app on this? Where you can answer the doorbell using the wink relay and see who's on the door?
Will the wink relay accept voice commands to operate smart plugs without Alexa. Can the smart switches be used to operate plugin modules.
The Wink does not do voice natively but does fully support Alexa and Google. I use it with the cheap echo's in each room and it works just fine for controlling WINK modules. You can use WINK to control zwave plugin models for lamps and similar items. You buy the WINK Hub and pair it will Echo as well, you can also go the Smartthings route too. Let me know if you need more help, willing to guide you?
Just doing this to my relays, but stumbling on Google now launcher and "ok Google" detection. What versions of that and play services should be installed?
Would this work better with the old Zeam launcher?
Will really work with any launcher, current ones still work and they even archive the older ones
Good morning, Tech Fan. First, let me say thanks for posting this. It is very helpful. I do have a question for you. How did you get Google Now Launcher to work? I downloaded the apk but it says I need a newer version of Google Play Services. I downloaded that but it will not install.
Check my other video's as I have one for the Google playstore. If you need more help just reply back and I will try to help you.
@@TechFan Thanks. I managed to get Google Now Launcher and Google Play Services to install. I still have not figured out how to keep the notification panel available. When the Relay is restarted, it is there but then the Relay software login comes on screen. I go back to home (which I have set as Google Now Launcher) and the wallpaper is not there, the notification panel is not there and the screen never goes to sleep. I have uninstalled the Wink Relay app within the launcher but apparently the thing still tries to be the boss of the device. Is there a way to remove it from the Relay completely? I am not physically connecting anything to the 2 switches so I don't need it added to my Wink and prefer to access Wink with the Wink app versus the Relay software.
@@davidc.fraley4378force stop the wink relay software and uninstall it quickly. Install the regular google version.
Hey can i just purchased this unit and use it with just smartthings. Or do I have to buy the wink unit..? Thsnks.
You can solely use it with SmartThings but you need to root it as I show in my other video's. If you don't root it, you will keep getting logged out of SmartThings. When you root it you can also install the Google Play Store too. After rooting you can remove Wink too if you are not using it at all plus install a full screen app etc. I show all of this expect the actual SmartThings install. If I get time I will make a video of exactly that but since the Wink Wall unit was discontinued by Wink I haven't put any time into new videos for it.
Tech Fan .. thank for ur reply... it looks really cool how you made that interphase..
thanks! Lots of good launchers for downloading that do most of the work, it's just a matter of placement for the most part. The harder part is getting everything all set for your application use (Automation / convenience) and practical use etc. You can also connect the relay to bluetooth speakers, I found that very helpful for using it as whole hose music controller. Sonos works great too as well as some other streaming apps including it will tie into Alexia if you have that or google home.
Awesome video Tech Fan! Super informative - and helped me to unbrick my Wink Relay from over 1.5 years ago when I first explored this process. Thanks for spending the time to document all the steps as well as provide insight on how to avoid common pitfalls. That said, was wondering if you could share how to do this : "You can also default the display to stay on all the time if you do not like the sensor or tap to display feature. " as you mention this in your notes. I have security camera software running on the Wink Relay, and I'd prefer that it's always on. Thanks
Are you using the relay buttons too? If not it's simple to stop the sensor if so it's tricky to get it to stay on as the methods are different.
@@TechFan I currently use the relay buttons.
@@junw3199 that's the one place where you can't change the behavior if you are using the relay buttons. In order to stop the process that keeps track of the display you have to move over to the android version of WINK but that version does not support the relay buttons natively. Not to say it can't be done with a workaround because you can but it's way too much work.
I subscribed because I use wink, and live in South Bound Brook. Hello local!
So close :) sadly not much new stuff with the WINK these days, wish they would add more products, but as a wall mount doing other stuff for me it's a gem. I picked up 4 of them when they went on close out, gave one away as a gift.
Does this also have the ability to change colors of Philips Hue bulbs
Yes it should be able to, you just have to load any app that controls this function. It's basically an android table on the wall. Only issue is that it's an older version of Android so you need to sometimes use older version of the APP from APK repository.
Great video . I did run into some issue though . Not sure this happened to you or no but I was having trouble launching some apps such as Vesync , Amazon music then I realized that google play service and google Play store needs to be installed in-order for the other apps to work .
I had loaded that as well when I was installing apps during the video but didn't note it and I didn't think about the link between it an other apps, I will add it to the notes, good catch! Thanks!
Try Nova Launcher on it . You may like it . I am using it on mine . When I have time I will make a video as well and share about my Automation home set up . Do you have any idea about "ImperiIhome" types of app that is free and don't have to subscribe ?
Nova is another good one. I looked up "Imperlihome" but key will be for me with any of the all in one is how well it works with my (eco system) WINK Hub, Alexia and security setup. I will also try to do an updated video with what it looks like after customization in the end. Also I think you only need Google Play Service for loading some apps and getting the Play store to actaully work takes some work and patience.
Hello, thanks for this great video. I’ve been trying to get my SONOS app to work but is not letting me. It says “the software on this device is outdated”. Have you come around with a solution for this? Thanks again
I think the Android OS on the WINK relay is becoming too far outdated for the current apps. I am sad to say it's useful life is turning a corner for the worse. I also hear that trying to root has become more difficult due to the newer root tools not having support for that version of OS.
Do your two buttons on the Wink Relay still function after the root?
Yes they do, there is a program for that if you want to link it to another hub. STWinkRelay APK 30 or follow this - if you moved to habitat like I di - community.hubitat.com/t/beta-wink-relay-lan-integration/272
Added another video on step by step rooting and getting the Google Play store to work (Check it out)
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Watch the tips and tricks video for enabling adb connect
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Tech Fan I cannot get google play services to work it says it is not compatible with my device
After completing all the steps , also I am unable to dim or brighten it is just one brightness any suggestions would be appreciated
Part of my message was cut out but my main issue is the screen never times out any suggestions?
Check the settings menu, as it's the same Android OS as before, but if you load "
Set to 15 seconds still stays on indefinitely. I’m going to try the entire process from the beginning again to see if I missed something along the way. Thank you so much for replying looks like it’s been a while since anyone has left a comment. I appreciate your time.
@@dupyml Did you run the STrelay app?
Wondering if this is still working. I can’t seem to download any apks, they seem to start and then disappear so I can’t even get the chance to install.
Yes it still works, swipe down at the top, you will see downloads.
Did you connect it to a 120v wall outlet?
Yes I did, as you see in the video the other end went into an outlet. That was just for the video and or someone setting up the controller before installing.
Tech Fan thanks i'll try
Great vid. Easy to follow, very detailed! Keep these up! BTW I did hack mine a while back its okay...honestly just too slow and very limited on what I REALLY want to run on it. Like having spotify on it, and playing music to the Echo...but spotify will crash the device running it out of memory. Too bad wink will not make a new updated version.
I find that the latest Total Launcher and Google Now desktops are fast with the apps being fairly response and working well for a on the wall device. For $75 is a steal and will work for quick access to lights, music and information widgets. It's not like the latest smart phone or tablet on the market with the super fast chips but still a good value and use. Thanks for the comments, video took a long time to complete. I am working on an update for a Star Trek interface, more tips on cool applications and or uses etc. PS - I tried Spotify and it didn't crash, widget worked fine too.
Very nice, easy to follow...
Glad you liked it, I tried to make it easy to follow as possible and not run too long.
It seems to me that wink or someone has managed to get in and ixnay this process. I have tried to watch this and follow along pausing and getting through it, but i seem to get hung up when trying to install the wink app from APK. it says unknown application and will not allow for install. please let me know if there is a new way around this or if I missed a step somewhere. :(
I doubt they did anything different to stop it as they no longer support the device. Before you tried what I showed step by step did you do it from a factory fresh or after it was updated from WINK to the latest version of their last release?
This is an older video, does this hack still work if I were to apply it to my Wink relay?
Just as old the the WINK, yes it still works, you might have to grab some of the older APK version for the root program if the latest does not work.
Hi thanks for this. I’ve come across a problem on three of the relays I have tried this on. I get “unfortunately, wink relay has stopped” so it quits, and then also it’s unable to update my brand new Relays to the current software version.
Anyone else having these issues? Thanks
Are you taking the wink relay from factory fresh or factory restore and applying the changes per the video? After you do so the Wink app quits? Did you first configure the wink relay software, update then follow the video? Generally when you want to add the the other apps you want to get rid of the built in wink relay app and use the standard android version, only downfall is if you are using the buttons on the right you need to do additional work to get those working outside of the built in app. The Wink Relay has an older version of the Android operating system and as time goes it will be less compatible with the newer apps being released. With that said it still works will everything that is out there and shown. I suggest if you are going hybrid and keeping the wink software intact you should keep the extra apps to a minimum. The Wink Relay is limited in memory and CPU which is a shame as it's a great wall controller but quickly falling out of date. When the app quits what happens? does it just restart?
Tech Fan , thanks so much for the reply. Yes I was following the instructions per your video. I had the same issue for a two year old relay as well as a fresh one (I was able to pick up four from HD the other day). So I’m able to set them up as you advise, but after I reboot and log in, it seems to work for a short while, it then tries to auto-update, when I run into issues. It basically can’t do the software update and then after some time quits the app with the error that it’s stopped. Restarting the wink helps for a time, but issue will reoccur. I spoke to wink support and apparently they have a recent issue they are trying to fix with regard to the software updates. Hopefully that’s true! I do use the switch buttons, which is why I want the native software working. Thanks again. Keep up the great vids!
Are you saying there is no way to stop the auto-update, I remember being able to suppress any updates and also remember applying the update with it still working fine? I haven't done one of these in a while and maybe the latest updated software they are pushing has made changes which is the actual issue as you noted. The downfall of these relays is that WINK has stopped production and software updates are at will and not a must to continue support of it. Sad, I wish they were really popular and had an option to release an updated version with more CPU and memory. To date I can't find a good all in one wall replacement that connects direct to 120v.
Is there anyway to downgrade. Can load a launcher but after a few seconds goes back to wink launcher
Options are that you can load a few apps that force it to stop or just force it close a few times. You can can root it and then unload it, and load the google WINK version which is the same. Only downfall is the loss of the buttons when going that route. . Did you upgrade WINK or is it at the factory reset or new out of the box version?
I am stuck on the apk total launcher download and my screen does not swipe down and read downloading.. any help would be appreciated.
did you factory reset the WINK first before starting?
@@TechFan yes sir little
button sorry hit enter
I did everything step by step. My wink relay is offline and wont let me log in. It keeps saying Wink Relay has stopped working
Make sure you are connected your wireless network, if all else fails you can always factory reset it and start over, make sure not to upgrade it first.
This is now even more important since WINK is going to charge for WINK.. You can also follow this doc for Hubitat - community.hubitat.com/t/beta-wink-relay-lan-integration/272
Oh dang, Did I read the notes correctly? . . . There's no more Wink Relay??
(dated Jan 2018)
Man, just watched 10 vid's about this and got all excited about getting one! whaa!
. . . . . . .So, Okay. What should I find thats nifty?
They are on eBay for 65.00 new or about that. Software on them is still supported and working fine as it stands or if you want change to be an android OS controller. Note that if you really are just looking for an android device to put on the wall there are many other options that have newer faster hardware for about the same just a hair more. The mount into an outlet is the best feature and ease, the downside is the hardware is older and there are no updates for the underlying OS (Android). With that said there are still updates for WINK and WINK is still selling stuff.
@@TechFan i tried to go.on your website to buy a relay that was already hacked. But it looks like website is down. Do u still sell any that are already hacked? Thanks
@@bizoyd29 I was not the one selling them but they are for sale on eBay for about $60. Just get one there and have at it. It's fairly easy to get it going and nothing is perfect with it. Note that you cannot update the android OS and or its limited CPU speed will limit how far you can really take it. A wall mounted tablet or iPAD is the way to go right now. Only advantage is the built in native WINK relay for two light switches but that's about it.
technology channel..i love your video..
Cool tips! Nice video
Error parsing package how do i stop that?
not sure what part you are at, you can also use an older package if the latest does not work. WINK relay android version is version 4.x, really old but still works. This device is not long for the world...
I don't know if I trust this if it's set to my home automation somebody could control my alarm and other devices lol
I'd rather Velcro an old phone over the display and be done!
I enjoyed the video very much
Thank you but sadly When i try to download the total loader it says download started but i cant seen to swip down to enable unknown sourses
Did you first enable the debug mode
Enable Android USB Debugging Mode
Go to Android home screen.
Pull down the notification bar.
Tap "Settings"
Tap "About Device"
Tap on the "Build Number" button about 7 times.
Developer Mode should now be unlocked and available in Settings > More > Developer Options.
@@TechFan Really apreciate the reaply it worked and now i have it ty :), also is thier a way to mae the screen stay on and also a way to get premium weather app as I h8 adds and pop ups
Does Google Play work?
Yes it does but you have to load the correct version for Jelly Bean 4.3. One can also root the device to take it a step further to free the wall controller totally of WINK should you not own any WINK devices. I will work on a step by step for both Rooting and the Play Store in the near future.
How to identify "correct version for Jelly Bean 4.3"? I tried 9.4.52 (20171116) and it seems to succeed. But Google > Settings > Voice > "OK Google" detection continues to be stuck "retrieving settings"
If you install and run "Kingroot" and then use "Root Package Disabler" to disable wink, then run a few commands the latest google play store version will work but unless you really need the play store I don't suggest rooting it.
Got it working:
Google Play Services (version 9.4.52)
Google Now Launcher (version 1.3 large)
Google (version 7.18.50.16arm)
Nice, I will give it a shot later, I am trying to get the video done with all the tips, so I will look to include this. I knew it was a combo of older versions thanks for posting it as many ask.
Can you put youtube on this?
sure can
@@TechFan how do I connect this to my lights
I added an update video to watch after this one with some further tips and tricks
ruclips.net/video/DP2WLER3iuI/видео.html
Getting a parsing error, not sure why?
Says "there's a problem parsing the package"
@@swatpup9281 the application version is not compatible with the android version you have installed. You will need to download an older version.
@@verebs1 thanks so much for your reply and taking the time. Your awsome. I'll give it a shot. If you have any sires that I can download from would be great. Thanks again
thnx its good
Sonos app won’t work!
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