David is an amazing man….I say this as an agnostic: thank God for David French! He is brilliant and incisive. Everything he said is spot on. He hits the nail straight on the head. I’m amazed how accurately he gets it. He’s a hero.
This is such a great conversation. I have had very similar thought to what Russell Moore and David are saying and to hear intelligent conversation about it is so refreshing and needed.
I identify as a fairly liberal Christian and Democrat. But I've always looked at the vote the way David describes. I have credited both of these's men's opinion more because of their willingness to act against self-interest and call out their friends on their hypocrisy. This conversation was excellent in how they examine both their own beliefs and others with an open mind.
It’s so refreshing to hear this conversation. It’s nice to know I’m not alone in seeing things after unhooking myself from constant news media. Great conversation.
I've really come to appreciate this channel; however, while captions for this are hilarious to read, our deaf and hard of hearing friends will be completely lost or worse insulted by these captions.
Who cares? Russell said at the beginning that the whole show was just about having conversations from a Christian perspective. He didn’t say it was to have a conversation about Christian related things.
This is very much a Christian conversation. Donald Trump has done more to harm conservatism and to the witness of Christ. Who would ever want to be a Christian when non Christians see them promoting Trump, who has done very little for Christianity?He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.
I sorta get what these guys are saying but they make a lot of strawman arguments. I don’t know any serious people calling for banning non-Christian religions.
Time: 38:00. My thoughts. As Christian myself who is not Republican or Evangelical the Christian Right support of Trump is baffling. There are lots of us out here watching with bewilderment. To frame this a Evangelical vs liberals is too narrow. It’s evangelical vs a mass of Christians outside their tent.
It's the same as Christians who voted for either Clinton or Obama, then Biden. Same bewilderment, different cat. It's not complicated when understanding our innate temperamental differences, for starters. When was the last time we saw the Ideal running for either party, BTW? I was more interested in Tulsi or Rubio, but went with Trump. And am glad to discuss/debate with any Progressive or Liberal Christian who just "cannot fathom" why. Again, vice versa. I could just as easily judge my Brothers and Sisters who do not vote MY way. Rather boring. Very arrogant. "Divisive". ( When people obsess over Trump being divisive, I just as easily recall Hillary or Obama or Biden being deeply divisive, not uniting. And so it goes. )
@@machtnichtsseimann I cannot fathom why you would vote for such a morally depraved man as Donald Trump, I can certianly udnerstand why you would vote for Marco Rubio or Tulsi Gabbard. I would say the same thing if this were 1968, and you were supporting George Wallace.
@@machtnichtsseimann YES!! Well said. @machtnichtsseimann, let's not forget that it was the DemoRats that sought out the Satanic church to help them fight against the prolife movement. Is that the side you want to side with. All the movements of the left is anti-God, such as the wicked indoctrination of our children, forcing transgender on our culture, and pushing the alphabet peoples wicked, perverted lifestyle on our culture.
@petermenkveld4162 Did you hear about David's good friend Joel Searby? It would appear that he is a member of the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes. He tried setting up a mentor program for a 15 year old boy, and got arrested.
Pastors are always criticized and will be but they should preach AND live out the Gospel, not be partisan. Most times, if you are being led by the Spirit of God, you “won’t” agree with either party exactly and all the time. If you are praying for Biden and Trump, be not ashamed.
Nope, i think it’s you that just proved that. Can you provide an example of something he said that supports your comment? You need to think outside of your bubble. David French is brilliant and incisive. Everything he said is spot on. He hits the nail straight on the head. I’m amazed how accurately he gets it. He’s a hero.
Your take might at least be fair in terms of present Christianity, then again we're talking about the greater complexity of America with its various strains and ideologies at play, pendulum swings, lies vs lies, cheap clickbait media manipulations. Answer to Your Question: When I happened across news that wasn't Prime Time about Trump, I heard and saw him acting quite "lovingly" and respectfully and articulately in a good leader kind of way. A "Christian" take on any man or woman is to strive to evaluate the good, bad and ugly. Trump wasted FAR TOO MUCH time fighting with the Media which continually mis-quoted and lied about him, hence his correcting and rebuking them. Trump went too far at times, but other times he was pushing back on sheer corruption. I'll take the bad with the good in that context about him. It needed to be done, and the Dems/Media should be held accountable for not pummeling the Media for their toxic divisiveness.
@@machtnichtsseimann 32 sexually attacked women might disagree with you. Jean Carroll (raped by Trump) might disagree with you. Porn stars might disagree. Trump (is) sheer corruption. Anyone who doesn't see that is in the deepest denial possible no matter how one twists it. Next you'll be rationalizing how Satan and Putin have good ideas.
@@machtnichtsseimann Hitler was a vegetarian who wanted animals protected….but so what. He was still an evil human being that no decent person should have supported on a “values” basis. Just because Trump “acts nicely” sometimes (to his friends and allies) in ways we would normally expect from any decent person doesn’t excuse tolerating his monumental vileness that goes against every so called Christian value. Also, something to consider, the man is obviously an Atheist….ironic….what a joke. Evangelical Trump supporters are making a blatant mockery of the Christian religion. What would Jesus do? Answer that question….thank God for David French. He’s a true hero.
Thanks, Russell Moore, for these conversations. Refreshing, intelligent, congenial.
David is an amazing man….I say this as an agnostic: thank God for David French!
He is brilliant and incisive. Everything he said is spot on. He hits the nail straight on the head. I’m amazed how accurately he gets it. He’s a hero.
This is such a great conversation. I have had very similar thought to what Russell Moore and David are saying and to hear intelligent conversation about it is so refreshing and needed.
I identify as a fairly liberal Christian and Democrat. But I've always looked at the vote the way David describes.
I have credited both of these's men's opinion more because of their willingness to act against self-interest and call out their friends on their hypocrisy. This conversation was excellent in how they examine both their own beliefs and others with an open mind.
It’s so refreshing to hear this conversation. It’s nice to know I’m not alone in seeing things after unhooking myself from constant news media. Great conversation.
I've really come to appreciate this channel; however, while captions for this are hilarious to read, our deaf and hard of hearing friends will be completely lost or worse insulted by these captions.
Wonderful, thoughtful conversation
Sorry couldn't follow along with this conversation. It's more complicated than it needs to be.
This felt more like a political conversation then a Christian one.
Who cares? Russell said at the beginning that the whole show was just about having conversations from a Christian perspective. He didn’t say it was to have a conversation about Christian related things.
@@beav15 I think you've unintentionally affirmed my comment.
You must be a Trumper
@@myronstewart1473 who is? It's not me as I'm not even American.
This is very much a Christian conversation. Donald Trump has done more to harm conservatism and to the witness of Christ. Who would ever want to be a Christian when non Christians see them promoting Trump, who has done very little for Christianity?He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.
russel should have a conversation with Doug Wilson. But he won't because he has scorn for the body of Christ.
I sorta get what these guys are saying but they make a lot of strawman arguments.
I don’t know any serious people calling for banning non-Christian religions.
He Who Sits In The Heavens shall laugh; He shall hold them in contemptful mockery.
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Time: 38:00. My thoughts. As Christian myself who is not Republican or Evangelical the Christian Right support of Trump is baffling. There are lots of us out here watching with bewilderment. To frame this a Evangelical vs liberals is too narrow. It’s evangelical vs a mass of Christians outside their tent.
It's the same as Christians who voted for either Clinton or Obama, then Biden. Same bewilderment, different cat. It's not complicated when understanding our innate temperamental differences, for starters. When was the last time we saw the Ideal running for either party, BTW? I was more interested in Tulsi or Rubio, but went with Trump. And am glad to discuss/debate with any Progressive or Liberal Christian who just "cannot fathom" why. Again, vice versa. I could just as easily judge my Brothers and Sisters who do not vote MY way. Rather boring. Very arrogant. "Divisive". ( When people obsess over Trump being divisive, I just as easily recall Hillary or Obama or Biden being deeply divisive, not uniting. And so it goes. )
@@machtnichtsseimann I cannot fathom why you would vote for such a morally depraved man as Donald Trump, I can certianly udnerstand why you would vote for Marco Rubio or Tulsi Gabbard. I would say the same thing if this were 1968, and you were supporting George Wallace.
@@machtnichtsseimann YES!! Well said. @machtnichtsseimann, let's not forget that it was the DemoRats that sought out the Satanic church to help them fight against the prolife movement. Is that the side you want to side with. All the movements of the left is anti-God, such as the wicked indoctrination of our children, forcing transgender on our culture, and pushing the alphabet peoples wicked, perverted lifestyle on our culture.
How hilarious these 2 mean fan stan super hero movies...not sure what to make of this.
Dave French supports freedom of speech? Where was his outrage when they threw Trump off Twitter?
@petermenkveld4162
Did you hear about David's good friend Joel Searby? It would appear that he is a member of the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes. He tried setting up a mentor program for a 15 year old boy, and got arrested.
Good conversation...❗❗❗
I prefer my Christian media to be more "rowdy".
What happened to Eric Metaxas?
Pastors are always criticized and will be but they should preach AND live out the Gospel, not be partisan. Most times, if you are being led by the Spirit of God, you “won’t” agree with either party exactly and all the time. If you are praying for Biden and Trump, be not ashamed.
David French is proof that being intelligent doesn’t make one smart
Being intelligent does make one smart, it doesn't make one wise.
Nope, i think it’s you that just proved that. Can you provide an example of something he said that supports your comment? You need to think outside of your bubble. David French is brilliant and incisive. Everything he said is spot on. He hits the nail straight on the head. I’m amazed how accurately he gets it. He’s a hero.
French has forgotten more than you know, bro. ✌
Hilarious that you have to wait an hour to get the argument, then it turns out to be about comic strips.
Trump exposed the inherit weakness in Christianity and it's purpose. If God endorses Trump, why would a loving humane person look to God?
Your take might at least be fair in terms of present Christianity, then again we're talking about the greater complexity of America with its various strains and ideologies at play, pendulum swings, lies vs lies, cheap clickbait media manipulations. Answer to Your Question: When I happened across news that wasn't Prime Time about Trump, I heard and saw him acting quite "lovingly" and respectfully and articulately in a good leader kind of way. A "Christian" take on any man or woman is to strive to evaluate the good, bad and ugly. Trump wasted FAR TOO MUCH time fighting with the Media which continually mis-quoted and lied about him, hence his correcting and rebuking them. Trump went too far at times, but other times he was pushing back on sheer corruption. I'll take the bad with the good in that context about him. It needed to be done, and the Dems/Media should be held accountable for not pummeling the Media for their toxic divisiveness.
@@machtnichtsseimann 32 sexually attacked women might disagree with you. Jean Carroll (raped by Trump) might disagree with you. Porn stars might disagree. Trump (is) sheer corruption. Anyone who doesn't see that is in the deepest denial possible no matter how one twists it. Next you'll be rationalizing how Satan and Putin have good ideas.
@@machtnichtsseimann Hitler was a vegetarian who wanted animals protected….but so what. He was still an evil human being that no decent person should have supported on a “values” basis. Just because Trump “acts nicely” sometimes (to his friends and allies) in ways we would normally expect from any decent person doesn’t excuse tolerating his monumental vileness that goes against every so called Christian value. Also, something to consider, the man is obviously an Atheist….ironic….what a joke. Evangelical Trump supporters are making a blatant mockery of the Christian religion. What would Jesus do? Answer that question….thank God for David French. He’s a true hero.
Woohoo! David French!
Great conversation .
I didn’t know the View was on RUclips
No thanks child sexual abuse? Ewwww!!! No thanx