Apparently it was secretly buffed. The window to jump cancel went to 4 frames instead of 3 frames. Back then it was too late once you see her wings come out, but now it's the first frame of her wings.
inplane Idk if it was buffed, however sometimes you could see her wings for a frame and still be able to save your Double Jump. If it really was buffed tho, I’ll happily take it
I’m super late, but the hit box on witch twist was also buffed, it keep you dragged in close to her compared to before when an enemy could di all the way through and below witch twist.
I've heard most people suggesting to have a shoulder button for the technique, but I feel awkward using the shoulder button for that. However, I discovered that stick jump can also be very helpful and maybe easier to use for the jump cancel if a person prefers that setup. It stays neutral and then I flick it at the same time as pressing the B button.
Ignacio Osorio I’d say whichever feels best to you. I also have tap jump too for the easier short hops, on top of stick jump for the jump cancels. Test out what feels best.
I used too use tap jump and I did for a good 3 months and then I realised that with tap jump I kept bruffering jumps all the time and wand never able to use her combos properly, would highly recommend using the zl button instead of tap jump, for the first few days using it, it will feel off but you will notice that your playing better. Promise
Bayo is one of the last characters I’ve still got to get into elite. Her combos are so different from the rest of the cast, so this tutorial was helpful, thank you! :D
You are truly a pro at playing as Bayonetta... I main her too but sometimes even you are able to impress me with the creative combos your able to pull off. I can already imagine you playing for EVO someday... I wish you the best of luck! 👍
Thank you so much for posting this! I didn’t even know any of this was possible, and Bayonetta has been my main for quite a while now! I call her The Combo Queen. Now I can use even bigger combos lol!
0:25 Lmao I love that. The DK starts running around preparing for the next stock only to realize that Bayo can make that recovery. Then you proceed to kill him.
There’s another another piece of this tech missing. When comboing into witch twist. If you have a double jump you can cancel it twice. Like when you catch them in an abk to start you can jump cancel into witch twist then abk and jump cancel again. It gives me so much more height but no one is talking about it.
Another one of these legendary tutorials! Thank you even though I can do this already. Can you make a video on what you think about the bayo buffs, her spot on the tier list, and possible new combos?
Thank you so much! Been looking for something to try and find out how people do it and it’s so useful and helpful for getting back to stage. Thanks again!!
Nah this is the easy part, the harder part is using this to creatively recover and knowing when to use this technique in gameplay such as edgeguarding and how much you need to time it so that you snap to ledge perfectly in order to try to avoid getting two framed
Be aware that the button configuration is not required, if you are already used to doing the tech in SSB4 then this should be simple for you to do. (There is, however, a small delay because of the Witch Twist start-up nerf)
If you are just learning this/never played Bayo before then ignore this and stick to the method in the vid and work your way up to the normal method. Don't do the normal method immediately. You're only hurting yourself.
I suggested this configuration because it’s how i learned to do it (and it fits well for my other characters), but you’re right, it’s ok if you prefer another configuration or already knew how to do it.
It seems you made another comment but idk why i can’t respond to it, however; I was considering making that video. I think I have some “Witch time tips/combos” I’d like to share. So expect it soon (i hope)!!! :)
Its easy for me if a use use the Y button on procontroller, i just need to slide down my thumb to the special button after perfoming a jump to the special upB
Hi! You may not see this since it’s a new comment and the video was released a long time ago but I can’t get the second witch twist to connect after the jump cancel because my opponent takes to much knock back even at zero percent. So I’m kind of struggling. Any idea on how I can fix this?
Why do you cancel your jump on your first witch twist tho? The first one is just free, only the second one requires you to „have jumped“ or am I overlooking something? I only ever jump-cancel on the second witch twist.....
I always cancel both jumps because it gets you higher. but there are some cases (e.g. When the opponent is too low after an Abk) where is better to not cancel the jump so that the witch twist hits
Thanks! Try practicing on training mode with a slower speed. You could start with frame by frame to see how it looks and then go increasing the speed until you get used to the input
[Applies to any move you do after Witch twist] Input your next move just right when the 7th (last) hit of WTw ends, you can use the sound as a guide to know the exact moment
The camera on battle field is not big enough but you jump, Witch Twist jump cancel, witch twist again and air jump again since thr first air jump was cancelled? It has been a long time since i played Smash cause Im living far far from civilization and youtube is my only escape tbh 😅
You can buffer the WTw, but only the WTw. What I mean is that you can’t buffer the jump cancel witch twist. You have to time it right after you finish your other move
Hey ra the controls you recommended in the video for the controller, how to 8 get my hands and legs out to finish people off or can i not do that seeming as it is replaced with tilt button or do you in general just not use the hand punch and leg things move..m
Is it possible to do it with a GameCube controller on default settings? It's kinda hard that I have to stretch my thumb between B and Y buttons which is harder to pull jump cancels 😭
Yes, this technique doesn’t need specific settings, I suggest you try different setting until you find the one you’re more comfortable with. As for me, I really like doing it with a shoulder button
I can perform the jump cancel when Im not attacking the opponent, but when I try to follow up my ABK with Witch Twist Jump Cancel, I just double jump. Any tips?
Just as an FYI this has nothing to do with the buffs; she was already able to do this lmao
Apparently it was secretly buffed. The window to jump cancel went to 4 frames instead of 3 frames. Back then it was too late once you see her wings come out, but now it's the first frame of her wings.
inplane Idk if it was buffed, however sometimes you could see her wings for a frame and still be able to save your Double Jump. If it really was buffed tho, I’ll happily take it
@@inplane9970 Was it really that tight??? I did this tech day one and only had to delay my button press a bit because of the Start-up nerf.
I’m super late, but the hit box on witch twist was also buffed, it keep you dragged in close to her compared to before when an enemy could di all the way through and below witch twist.
After buff I feel now that I reach higher with jump canceling, able to finish the stock with up air and make it stylish
If you want extra height, do it at the very 3-4 frames, it will make a huge dofference but you have to MASTER her
I've heard most people suggesting to have a shoulder button for the technique, but I feel awkward using the shoulder button for that. However, I discovered that stick jump can also be very helpful and maybe easier to use for the jump cancel if a person prefers that setup. It stays neutral and then I flick it at the same time as pressing the B button.
i use tap jump too, i was considering changin jump to zl or l but i can already do some combos, is it really necessary?
Ignacio Osorio I’d say whichever feels best to you. I also have tap jump too for the easier short hops, on top of stick jump for the jump cancels. Test out what feels best.
I used too use tap jump and I did for a good 3 months and then I realised that with tap jump I kept bruffering jumps all the time and wand never able to use her combos properly, would highly recommend using the zl button instead of tap jump, for the first few days using it, it will feel off but you will notice that your playing better. Promise
Ik I'm late but I just use the Y button. When I do the cancel, I just flick my thumb from the Y button to the B button while holding up.
Bayo is one of the last characters I’ve still got to get into elite. Her combos are so different from the rest of the cast, so this tutorial was helpful, thank you! :D
I just start playing bayo and your channel is gold ! Thank you your doing a Amazing job for bayo players !
You are truly a pro at playing as Bayonetta... I main her too but sometimes even you are able to impress me with the creative combos your able to pull off. I can already imagine you playing for EVO someday... I wish you the best of luck! 👍
Thank you so much for posting this! I didn’t even know any of this was possible, and Bayonetta has been my main for quite a while now! I call her The Combo Queen. Now I can use even bigger combos lol!
Only person that actually explained everything and how to do it. Tysm +1 sub
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Lmao I love that. The DK starts running around preparing for the next stock only to realize that Bayo can make that recovery.
Then you proceed to kill him.
Talk about the new buffs 🤘🏽💀 also love ur vids
There’s another another piece of this tech missing. When comboing into witch twist. If you have a double jump you can cancel it twice. Like when you catch them in an abk to start you can jump cancel into witch twist then abk and jump cancel again. It gives me so much more height but no one is talking about it.
I already know how to triple jump but i want show spport to this channel your the best RUclipsr for bayo content
Another one of these legendary tutorials! Thank you even though I can do this already. Can you make a video on what you think about the bayo buffs, her spot on the tier list, and possible new combos?
Bayo got buffed !!
Witch time and guns are not buff yet
This is the only thing why i love Bayonetta ( with infinite combo in smash 4) 😂
Thank you so much! Been looking for something to try and find out how people do it and it’s so useful and helpful for getting back to stage. Thanks again!!
As a Bayo main, it’s actually really hard to pull off. It’s always recommended to have a second jump button for it.
You are the one who explain this ! Thanks you !
so THIS is why no one can just pick uo bayo
Nah this is the easy part, the harder part is using this to creatively recover and knowing when to use this technique in gameplay such as edgeguarding and how much you need to time it so that you snap to ledge perfectly in order to try to avoid getting two framed
Don't forget the horrible endlag on all of her abilities and low priority where jabs cancel her smash attacks. Never smash attack with this character.
I am pretty sure it can be buffered which makes it a LOT easier
Thanks for the tutorial, even if i don't play Bayonetta, it was very useful
I really can't pull off that jump cancel, especially on tiny characters like Olimar.
I used to mash Jump+Up-B to do this
Be aware that the button configuration is not required, if you are already used to doing the tech in SSB4 then this should be simple for you to do. (There is, however, a small delay because of the Witch Twist start-up nerf)
If you are just learning this/never played Bayo before then ignore this and stick to the method in the vid and work your way up to the normal method. Don't do the normal method immediately.
You're only hurting yourself.
I suggested this configuration because it’s how i learned to do it (and it fits well for my other characters), but you’re right, it’s ok if you prefer another configuration or already knew how to do it.
It seems you made another comment but idk why i can’t respond to it, however; I was considering making that video. I think I have some “Witch time tips/combos” I’d like to share. So expect it soon (i hope)!!! :)
@@Ra-wn1tb Great! Maybe with your video I will actually consider using Witch Time!
Its easy for me if a use use the Y button on procontroller, i just need to slide down my thumb to the special button after perfoming a jump to the special upB
I didnt realize you could store it twice
Hi! You may not see this since it’s a new comment and the video was released a long time ago but I can’t get the second witch twist to connect after the jump cancel because my opponent takes to much knock back even at zero percent. So I’m kind of struggling. Any idea on how I can fix this?
I love everything about your video! I love how you used the OST of the Gates of Hell! Thank you for this!
Its so easy just mash jump and up b at the same time
Bayo with no brim
Why do you cancel your jump on your first witch twist tho? The first one is just free, only the second one requires you to „have jumped“ or am I overlooking something? I only ever jump-cancel on the second witch twist.....
I always cancel both jumps because it gets you higher. but there are some cases (e.g. When the opponent is too low after an Abk) where is better to not cancel the jump so that the witch twist hits
Ra Oooh ok, that‘s good to know, thanks ^^ great video btw
it hurts to do it with x but it might be confusing to change i
I find the Y button easier since I can just slide my finger to the B-button
Smash 4 tesifieds.....
Hey. Your a really good bayo! I’m having trouble with the timing. Do you think you can help me?
Thanks! Try practicing on training mode with a slower speed. You could start with frame by frame to see how it looks and then go increasing the speed until you get used to the input
Damn I can't do the combos she's too hard to use😭
Your a god thank you
Thanks for the video
Can you explain how to cancel WT to perform ABK with no wasted frames?
[Applies to any move you do after Witch twist] Input your next move just right when the 7th (last) hit of WTw ends, you can use the sound as a guide to know the exact moment
@@Ra-wn1tb thx a million. Sound worked perfectly
... well, this might explain her triple jump against Ridley back when the game wasn't released ...
She was able to do this in Smash 4 too lol
ok but how do i combo some who di's out at mid (40-60) and high (80- 120) percents
It's spelled "montage" by the way. But this is some useful stuff.
Oops that was a typo, im gonna try to correct it, thanks for noticing
Buen tutorial amigo 🤚😂
The camera on battle field is not big enough but you jump, Witch Twist jump cancel, witch twist again and air jump again since thr first air jump was cancelled?
It has been a long time since i played Smash cause Im living far far from civilization and youtube is my only escape tbh 😅
There I jump cancelled both witch twists
TYSM
Question can you buffer the witch twist
You can buffer the WTw, but only the WTw. What I mean is that you can’t buffer the jump cancel witch twist. You have to time it right after you finish your other move
Anyone else knows how to JC witch twist but just watched anyway?
DaniLovesArt12 Dim jump cancel
Hey ra the controls you recommended in the video for the controller, how to 8 get my hands and legs out to finish people off or can i not do that seeming as it is replaced with tilt button or do you in general just not use the hand punch and leg things move..m
You mean the smash attacks??
i need help 💔
can someone pls explain was abk and the other letters listed in this video ?
omg i was a newbie i improved so much with bayonetta
I LOVE YOU RA
How do you cancel into side b?
Is this only for the up special or can this be utilized with side special?
No, you can only cancel it into upB
do we have to have an alternative jump button
It’s only recommended, i find it easier with jump on ZL but maybe you prefer another way to do it
Is it possible to do it with a GameCube controller on default settings? It's kinda hard that I have to stretch my thumb between B and Y buttons which is harder to pull jump cancels 😭
Yes, this technique doesn’t need specific settings, I suggest you try different setting until you find the one you’re more comfortable with. As for me, I really like doing it with a shoulder button
@@Ra-wn1tb I want a pro controller the more I think about it cuz those buttons r much closer to each other
bayomoment
hey are you planning on making a witch strike/ wavebounce witch twist tutorial in the future ?
I’d like to, but I’m not consitent with that techinque at all. Maybe one day if I learn to do it properly
Whats the song, that jazzy vibe
It’s The gates of hell from bayonetta
just check out the whole bayonetta soundtrack its got some cool music
Hello,
I’m having trouble in doing witch twist 4 times, do you have any tips plz ??
4 times?!
Mmm... unless I’m misunderstanding you can only do 2 witch twists,
Could you explain more why you’re having troubles??
Can you help me on how to perform these things into combos
i love you
thx
Justo el tutorial que necesitaba, ahora en español xd
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Holisss❤️🌚
I can perform the jump cancel when Im not attacking the opponent, but when I try to follow up my ABK with Witch Twist Jump Cancel, I just double jump. Any tips?
just started labbing her and almost all my jump cancels are just double jumps when i'm hitting an opponent because of the hitstun
Tf does wtw mean
Witch Twist
@@Ra-wn1tb ty. I have comeback to this video as a not as fuckin dumb player. This really helped TYSM.
I didn't find this useful at all. As someone completely new at Bayo, I feel like I have LESS jumps than the rest of the cast.
Lmao y’all don’t use normal jump button get outta here