654 Comparison Forestry Helmets. Protos Integral Arborist Helmet. STIHL. GRIPO. 4K
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Getting the itch already? Yup. Me too. Firewood season is around the corner. Let's take a look at some Forestry helmet options. The STIHL, GRIPO and my newest addition, the Protos Integral Arborist Helmet. Different price points. Different builds. I'll share some info I learned that may help you as you consider the right helmets for your needs. Cheers!
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Just had a branch fall into my protos yesterday. Helmet and head were great. Should not have put hand up though. Broke finger against helmet. All is well better than being dead. Spend the money.
Morning Mike. Geez - happy to hear you are ok. I think it is kind of reflex to raise your arm to try to protect yourself. I probably would too - thanks for sharing this - speedy recovery on the fingers and all the best!
Hi GP: I have Protos Integral helmet and a Husqvarna Technical helmet. The Protos helmet is by far the most comfortable for all day wear. I like the chinstrap and the low profile design. Running forestry equipment, I like the chinstrap just in case there is an accident with the equipment, with the chinstrap, the helmet should stay on my head. The low profile makes it easy getting in and out of the cabs without hitting the face shield. The Protos is expensive, but a fantastic helmet.
Hey thanks Richard! I am looking forward to some real use soon. Cheers!
If it's not comfortable you won't wear it...I love my Protos Arborist Helmet...I bought one 6 months ago based on your negative feedback on the Stihl ... its so comfortable I seriously don't even notice I'm wearing it...👍👍
GP great review, ironically I had a video planned in the near future on my Pfanner helmet as well.
I’ve had my Photos Pfanner for about 2 years, As you pointed out it’s extremely comfortable, my only issue is the chin strap, I find it a bit cumbersome with the magnet and occasionally pinch my neck.
Enjoy your new helmet! 👍TCT
Thanks Tony! I will keep that in mind - thanks for the tip. It is removable as you probably know. I will use mine with the strap for a while to see. Cheers and all the best!
There is dead Ash trees everywhere when I'm working in the forest don't like being in there without a helmet
as Im just starting with chainsawing , I need a helmet... I love your presentation ... Im buying a Protos... the Sthil can stay on the shop shelf !
I was shopping for replacement parts for the suspension in a 20 yo stihl helmet when I came across your video, just ordered a new Protos helmet. Thanks for the info.
GP It is great to see your pride in the Canadian Flag! As a lad from south of your border I would be honored to wear my flag in such a fashion! I will seriously consider the Protos! God Bless!
Gord loved the video today. I cut a fair amount of wood for many years and never wore a helmet. I was really lucky I never go hurt bad got a few goose eggs over the years. I’m older any disabled now and a few years ago an old timer that was a friend ( mid 80s). Was out cutting all day by himself on miles long fence rows and never came home. His wife was disabled and knew he would be home by dark. It took 2 hours for the sherif and rescue to find him but the widow maker got him. The price of safety gear is nothing compared to what we all lost.😮
So very sorry to hear about your friend Tom. I wish you and ours all the best - thanks for saying hi with a comment this morning!
I have to get into making safety helmets. Wow. Good safety equipment is always worth it.
As my forestry professor told us one of the first days in class. You don’t walk INTO the woods without a hard hat, they don’t call them widow makers for nothing…referring to hanging branches. I learned something new about the service life today; thanks for the PSA!
Nice info, never thought about the life of my helmets. Harvesting firewood out of our back 40 using a German helmet for 12 years. Time to replace thanks to your review. BUTT, those Protos are pricey. Worth it.
Thanks! Yes pricey but honest, the most comfortable helmet I have ever had. Cheers!
Excellent video GP !! Very informative and important! I think I’ll be looking into a much better helmet 👍 Thanks ! 🤯👏 Rick
Thanks Gord, I think I know what to tell my wife what I want for my birthday:) Thanks for sharing!
LOL! Cheers Tom ( and Happy Birthday!)
Although expensive you can’t beat the Protos for Tree Work!!!
Happy holiday! I just pulled the trigger on that helmet and I'm 66 yrs old. I've got two old Stihl hats with ear and face PPE and neither of those owe me a dime and both have done their job over and over with primary insults being slash and branches in the face. So IMO make an attempt to spend as much as you can regardless on how much time you spend actively felling.
I personally NEVER run a saw in full PPE, things happen. Word for knowledge: "accidents are caused they don't just happen!" Oh, 'DEAD WOOD," in 2002 I was felling beatle kill in N. AZ. I was 40+ ft up, wedged a saw, second saw up, finishing the job, (last tree of the day, (MISTAKE!!!) barber chair. I was able to drop down a few feet, hit in the hardhat, pushed me over, hit just behind right shoulder pushing me into the tree. I was able to climb down. Damage: compression fx neck, 3 broken ribs and a horrible embarrassment. I knew it was bad from the start and should have modified my topping procedure.
To everyone, PPE should be your first purchase when buying your first saw! At 66 yrs, I'm on my 3rd pair of chaps.
Looks and your comments are pushing me in the direction of getting a Protos Arborist helmet. Besides using such a helmet for firewood, my wife and I many times will use the chipper (and is quite loud) for turning the smaller limbs into mulch. We really need a good communication system when the chipper is being used as well as the log splitter. I see the Protos are available with the Sena 4 system and was curious about how well the muffs reduce the sound, as well as the quality of communication if the Sena 4 is installed. My current helmet is an Oregon w/ face shield but does not have any communication system. Perhaps I could install the Sean 4 into it.?.? We currently use Sena 'over the head' headsets, but that doesn't allow a helmet. The mic in the headsets have a very good noise canceling ability and am happy with them. Thanks Gord for doing the comparison.
Hey good luck Dave. I am not familiar with the Sena's but the helmet is awesome. I might suggest you email them on the Pfannercanada website and I am sure they can help you further. I am fortunate my neighbour Guy is big on safety so we v=have hand signals between us when working with chainsaws, splitter and chippers. Wish you the best- have a great and safe summer!
The earmuffs on the Pfanner helmet have an SNR rating of 26db. I use 3M Peltor X4P5 earmuffs which offer significantly more protection (SNR 32db). By comparison a good pair of foam earplugs have 38db SNR. For the price, it seems like Pfanner could do better?
Morning - that's an interesting one. I am not too familiar with SNR, to be honest. Any PPE I have ever used always uses NRR as the spec for Protection. Anything over 22 db NRR is recommended (from previous knowledge). I did see the SNR chart on the manual but didn't pay too much attention to it ( cause I was not sure of it's relative importance to me for ear protection, to be honest). .Thanks for bringing it up - I might spend some time trying to understand it. Cheers and thanks again!
I Thought That German Helmet Was Expensive, Until You Realise It Works Out At Less Than A Dollar A Week Over The Lifespan Of The Helmet 👏🇬🇧😎👍
Thanks! That's how I'll justify it to my wife!
I did not know about service life, for sure my cheaper Stihl version is too old. Secondly when I fist started riding a motorcycle, someone said to me when I was thinking of going cheap “whats your head worth?”, I didn’t buy the cheapie. I certainly don’t cut as much standing wood as you do but the Protos while big bucks will be my choice, I have been ‘brushed’ once this year, thats enuf. Secondly the Protos also offers integrated safety glasses and for those who need to talk to others there is an integrated microphone/headphone option if I recall correctly. Bucks - but whats you head worth if you drop trees, especially standing dead? Thanks Gord!
Makes good sense David! I did also buy the optional safety glasses. Integrated right into the helmet and adjustable two different ways. They put a lot of thought into the helmet. Best of luck!
Nows the time to cut trees. Spring means your tractor is ripping up your yard and forest.
Still darn cold -24c in parts of Ontario and Quebec
In Ontario they are going to be making the Black Ash tree an endangered species next January will this affect you guys?
Morning William. No, not at all - but thanks for the heads up!
I’ve got a Protos Integral as well. I love the 🇨🇦 on your face shield! I went boring and just got an orange and charcoal helmet with a plain black shield. The integrated ear muffs that tuck up and under the helmet are my favourite feature, along with the smooth operation of the shield and infinite adjustment to suit your noggin shape. Like a pfd when on the water: a comfortable helmet is one you actually wear.
Yes it is a lot of money, but when you’re out working in the forest, all it takes is one widow maker to come down to ruin your day (or longer). To each their own, but I choose to wear my helmet. For the ultimate in quality and comfort, I chose to pony up the money for a Protos. (edited to fix typo)
Great video Gord. Do you think the safety glasses would fit over prescription glasses?
Morning Brian. I don;t think so. They are adjustable outwards and pivot but i am pretty sure I can't get my glasses under them. Cheers Brian!
Great information Gord - the evolution of protection has come a long way, glad you found the Mercedes in the helmet world, superior protection and comfort that the company stands behind worldwide. Your Gripo can be used for when you wipper snip or nail it to the wall in your shed as a reminder. Guy has burnt a lot so far this winter, hope March is not that cold for him. Cheers and have a great weekend. Pete
LOL! We were just looking at it the other day estimating. Thanks Pete!
Fun fact? ANSI vs CSA? Kinda playing fast and loose with the word fun there aren't we?🤣I think we're going to have to see a video of you sitting around the house with the girls with the helmet on.
LOL! Good day Mark. There are pictures...but I am not sharing.:))
Have a buddy that's a DR. When we first met 30 years ago he rode hair scramble race's with his dirt bike. He brought a new helmet and I asked why pay so much money for it, he said if you have a 10 dollar head you by 10 dollar helmet you have a Dr's brain you buy a Dr's piece helmet cause they are built better. I'm just a retired electrician so I always went cheap. Great video as always 👍 thanks 😊
That Protos looks good. An arborist I like to watch & his crew wear them. I have a big head and have not been able to find 1 close so I can try on.
In high school 66-69 I had to give a speech about a controversial topic. I chose to talk about motorcycle helmets. I found out a lot of interesting facts.
Got to slightly defend Stihl lids. I’ve been using a mid range one for just over 5yrs. and though I’ve got a couple of gripes, rain, snow or hail passing between the visor and the peak, has never been a thing. Not happened and not thought about it really. The gripes of my particular lid, are that the ear defenders occasionally detach in thick brush and the visor when fully open, can catch on low branches of neighbouring growth.
I’m in Brexitania, here and in the EU, industrial helmets including those used in forestry & by arborists. Must be replaced every 5yrs., from date of manufacture. I think a lot of people go over that but for insurance cover, it’s 5yrs. maximum. Even if the lid has an UV indicator.
But the renewal of safety lids, due supposed UV degradation, is overstated. The regs. have not kept pace with the change of construction material type. Yes polyurethane does soften & degrade with exposure to UV light and yes certain safety helmets, notably motorcycle helmets are partially made with polyurethane.
However, the vast majority of industrial safety lids, (including those for chainsaw protection) are actually made from ABS, (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene). And one of the notable attributes of ABS, is that it does not soften, nor harden, nor degrade with exposure to UV.
So while the regs. say 5yrs. This is just pandering to the whims of manufacturers. Who are happy to over-sell their products; and safety regulators, who just can’t be bothered to update their outdated knowledge of manufacture materials.
Hey thanks very much for offering some perspectives and your experience - greatly appreciated. And thanks for watching!
@@GPOutdoors - Thank you for a great comparison review.
Hey GP the helmet planner helmet is on sale for $349 Canadian and that exact model with the Canadian flag. Keep up the great videos
The Protos is in a class of its own, just superb quality and comfort
I was literally looking at forestry helmets online this morning Gord! Fantastic timing, thanks...for the great info. Don't think my needs justify the $300 helmet but I learned a lot in this video. Thanks! 👍😎
Morning Chris! Good luck in the search. There are also helmets made by a company named Kask. Not sure of the pricing but they tend to have good reviews I found. Cheers!
Hey Gord, thanks for the helmet research. Just like you I have a gripo and stihl helmets. My buddy doesn’t like the stihl…as for me it’s ok. At least once a year something hit my helmet and appreciate the protection.
Great Informative video of GP . Loving the Maple leaf on the new helmet keep up the great content cheers my friend. Brad 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
The extra cost of the Sthil helmet is name brand. I don't know anyone that has purchased one that likes it. The Protos sure looks like a well-made product and I am looking forward to more reviews. Thanks again GP. Cheers
I also disliked the Stihl helmet, fit and quality were sorely lacking.
Another informative video GP! Thanks! We are still waiting for snow here in southern Massachusetts. We've had a lot of rain but no appreciable snow this winter. Cheers from MA!
How's she goin'? That's a fancy helmet there GP. I like the face shield!! Take care!!!
I never bothered with a helmet for wood cutting. May rethink that stance!!!
Very informative GP. Have to look at mine now and see if I need a new one. Nice looking helmet and very comfortable looking.
Fantastic video sir…thanks a ton you really did anyone watching a service and saved them some time, i couldn’t agree with you more on the the stihl helmet albeit a different (basic function economy design) but for a 120usd helmet it’s truly underwhelming almost to the point of being insulting ( the ear muffs are the cheapest pieces of crap with the flimsiest plastic connectors ever) not only that the steel mesh cover really obstructs your view and at 110$ usd on Amazon as of 10/2023 so considering the husqvarna is half the price and imo a better helmet overall With some electrical protection as well as better mesh for viewing and much better ear muff adjustments so I can wholehearted and honestly recommend it over the stihl and save yourself 60 bucks…the protos is on another level and out of my needs tbh but a very nice one nonetheless. Thanks again from Indiana USA
I tried for a while using the exact same cheap Chinese forestry helmet you have with the "Gripo" brand. I guess this is generic stuff that's sold everywhere under who knows whose brands. I bought mine from the Swedish hardware retail chain Biltema in one of their stores in Finland. The hard hat was relatively usable with a good fit and poor comfort, and did protect from a large branch falling on my head. The visor is not exactly good in less than optimal lighting conditions as you know after trying better options. Quite useless when it snows.
But none of this was The Issue with the cheapo: the hearing protectors lacked sealing pressure and would not do much to actually protect hearing. This is why I tossed it instead of saving for daytime firewood work and other non forestry things. Other than that it would have been OK for at least some light duty use on my yard in bright daylight, or for a spare helmet. The visor wire mesh was nice for blocking a ventilation hole from rodents though, so it saved me a trip to buy something and was eventually worth every ~20 euros I paid for it.
I currently have the same Stihl helmet, and I like it. Probably has to do with head shape too and would not fit everyone. This kit with the regular hearing protectors is around €120 around here which may not be a dream deal, but with a BT headset it's €200. This is less than just a Husqvarna BT headset accessory alone would cost, for their helmet kit you buy separately, so... It depends a lot on what your needs and criteria are.
I guess the chainsaw brand helmets I mention are among the cheapest and most balanced options when looking for safe and fairly usable PPE quality, basic connectivity and a proper visor. Not as much so when looking for the bare minimum. And especially they don't offer anything that could compete with the Protos. That felt just too expensive, let's see how I assess this next time with constantly growing expectations.
Your video almost - almost - seems like a prophecy. I've also used several Husqvarna and 3M hard hats and just might consider the Pfanner Protos as I believe it's better than anything I tried yet. Except currently their extra cost for the very basic feature of BT connectivity costs about €500 extra which is ridiculous. That's a lot compared to Stihl's 80. The actual Pfanner helmet without features at 250 isn't that bad for what you get, but I think one could reasonably expect BT at a total of less than 400. I mean, who buys an expensive pro helmet without connectivity in 2023? That's a minority to say the least. And it's the least expensive, almost bolt on, part of R&D for something like the Protos PPE system.
I have same but the hearing protection sucks ...over $300 one should not have pain and loose hearing from basic only protection!
Same here when i saw Cotontop Tim's video of being hit by the stray falling branch.
Looked at my aged stihl helmets and said time for an upgrade.
Have cut for a week with the Protos. it's extremely high quality and very comfortable.
Well worth the price
Seriously, are you making videos based on my search history? You are literally reading my mind here. :-) Thanks for the informative review. Modular replacements are a very handy feature.
Nice information!I use husqvarna technical helmet,pretty happy with it.But protos would be nice.
Great information Gordon. I didn't know a lot of that stuff. I have hated hard hats for the simple reason of them falling off when I looked down.
Stihl is a great brand for any saw but ppe is their Achilles heel I go husqy all day for economical forestry ppe
The chin strap is removable for ground work; my understanding it’s better to have the helmet move and take the impact force away.
Old vid but quick comment about sweat bands - the terrycloth ones absorb a lot more sweat and are easy to remove and wash. Cheap too. Avoids the forehead rash.
Great topic here Gord! Thanks for all the great videos
Morning Sandy!
Great video Gord. You learn something new everyday
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Thanks for sharing, very informative. Craig Pa
I liked my Husqvarna helmet. But, it's getting kinda old. So, I ordered the red and yellow Protos.
Thanks for this video. I never thought about the plastic aging.
Cheers Gary! Hope you enjoy it!
I had the same problems with my Stihl. I also had problems with the muffs popping out away from my head. I decided to purchase a Protos last year but I haven't been able to afford it yet. I will acquire it before spring and cutting season. FYI-A tree service person died due to a limb coming down in Western WA on January 20th. He wore an old-style helmet but I heard it wouldn't have mattered. His friend makes videos for RUclips under Guilty of Treeson. There is a tribute to Jed there. You can't argue expense when you hear that.
Good morning Wing! Yes I heard - very sad. The helmets are still on sale on the pfanner Canada website. It's a good price reduction - I think it is on the patriot styles (Canadian or US flag models) only. Best of luck and stay safe!
Timely video. Was in the market for a new helmet as getting ready to get back in the bush. My Husqvarna helmet's faceshield keep rusting out (3rd one) and have the same problem with them staying on the old noggin. Thank you for the review.
Morning Sherpa! Good luck with the new helmet. Hope life is treating you well out East!
GP, I live in the UK, and I always use my helmet when cutting timber. It doesn't matter if I am taking trees down or simply bucking rounds.
Morning Jason!
Wait do you guys have to wear helmets in Canada?
w00t!
I've got the Stihl ProMark (no chin strap) for on-the-ground work. Soon I will be starting to go aloft, so I will be needing an arborist helmet with chin strap.
I got a w00t!! Cheers!
Loving the Protos Gord! Enjoy the snow! It’s finally looking like winter here in Downeast Maine. Take Care!
Cheers!
Good day GP, excellent video. The Pfanner helmet looks great and I have been thinking of upgrading to one. I have been wearing Stihl helmets for decades and I cut all year round, summer, fall, winter until it gets to muddy in the Springtime. I agree, even though I wear Stihl helmets I am not impressed with the quality. They are cheap and not comfortable, I guess I have just become accustomed to them. Have a great day!
Cheers JO! Be safe out there!
service live, in my opinion, is just a ploy to make you buy another helmet in a couple of years. same goes for motorcycle helmets. as long as they havent been abused or impacted, they are pretty much ok......jmho. great info though, appreciate the segment.
UV, ozone, chemical exposure, and impact events(accident & mishandling) are the big issues with helmets. If you keep them properly when not actually in use, they will have a much longer service life. The service life from mfgs. is derived from actual testing for above average to extreme usage conditions, but it is also a liability escape route for them when bad things happen to someone when the product is beyond that time period, even if they did take good care with it.
Gord, where did you order the Protos helmet from? All the best.
Hey Gordon ! Catfish here ! Great info , going places no one has been before ! Always cutting edge , always good !
LOL! Cheers and good morning Catfish!
Good morning, Gord I noticed on the website that there are options and accessories listed. Have you upgraded anything on your helmet, other than the clear shield?
Hi Bryan. I decided to grab a pair of the integrated safety glasses and also an additional sweat band. Otherwise all stock. Cheers!
The Protos simply looks better made and functionally better. I hope you enjoy wearing it and staying safe out there.
Cheers Tim!
I love my Stihl power equipment, but feel like their PPE is an afterthought. It is also hard to drop $600 on a pair of boots or $400 on a helmet without first trying them on. Thanks for doing the research on these and giving us your opinions. With only a few dealers in the major cities in Canada, your videos offer great insight into this specialty equipment.
Cheers Paul!
Fantastic information Gord, yea it's expensive but it does more for the protection and comfort for all day wearing and the falling debris and getting knocked around inside the cab of different logging equipment too. Stay safe and keep having fun around there. Fred.
Good morning Fred!
Awesome helmets. Great video Gord. Cheers
Morning GP! That red and white helmet must have been a special order, they don't offer that combination on their website! Lucky You! But paying a large sum for protecting the main nut is money worth spending! 😆
I think so Bob! It's a beauty. still on sale on the pfanner canada website. :))
Great tip about the forestry helmets
Great info. Thanks Gord.
Great content GP. Work safe.
All good information to know! Thanks for presenting that review.
Morning Joe!
Fine presentation today.
What
Ear protection will you be choosing to use with the new lid?
Morning Jean. I am going to use the muffs that are included. The pads are really soft and comfortable. Cheers!
Definitely some food for thought GP, thanks for the video
Morning Dude!
Thanks for your review. Timely since I’m on the hunt for a helmet. It’s been a bit frustrating finding one thats well fitting for my small head. One size fits all helmets generally doesn’t work out well for women. I’m not in the bush cutting on my property enough to spring for the Protos but it’s likely the one that would be the most flexible for fitting. Thanks again
All the best in your search. There is another brand called Kask. Not sure of the cost but they look very well made. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors thank you for the tip, I’ll check it out
beautiful helmet
Enjoy your newest addition, GP. Life’s short and you work hard out there. It’s less an indulgence and more simply smart.
Great review and information GP. As always, it's real food for thought based on your application. Love the Canadian flag shield. Cheers!
Nice Helmet !!!
Thanks for another great video and for your continued focus on safety. But… one problem with that new Pfanner… it might just be too pretty to wear out into the forest and get tossed around the back of the tractor. Cheers!
Another great informative review Gord! The only thing you forgot to tell us is where you got the Protos on sale!! Have been drooling over one for a while now as I'm in the bush pretty much every day.
Hey Earl. pfannercanada website ( dot ca). Still on sale. :)) Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors Thanks Gord!
Ordered! If I'm ever up your way I'll bring my saw we can be bucking twins!!
@@earlzathome LOL! Cheers!
I am not Canadian and I would buy it just for the cool Maple leaf. Great helmet. I have a Stihl and I hate it also.
Good Morning GP
Morning Richard!
Other RUclipsrs need to watch your content and take notes. Well done, as always.