Tom Schreiner, Derek Thomas, Steve Lawson, & Andy Naselli | TMS Chapel | Q&A

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2024
  • During a special chapel at The Master's Seminary, Austin Duncan moderated a panel Q&A where Dr. Thomas Schreiner, Dr. Derek Thomas, Dr. Steve Lawson, and Dr. Andy Naselli discussed topics including Christian nationalism, historical theology, and navigating theological controversy.
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Комментарии • 85

  • @bell4289
    @bell4289 4 месяца назад +4

    Amen brothers! The contemporary church no longer produces preachers, but rather motivational speakers! True preachers have theology in the soul!

  • @betsyharnish6962
    @betsyharnish6962 3 месяца назад +2

    Tom schreiner is so incredibly humble given his knowledge.

  • @robertlotzer7627
    @robertlotzer7627 6 месяцев назад +29

    I was a pastor for 20+ years in three different churches and none of them wanted a theologian or anything close to a pastor-scholar/teacher. They were all satisfied with having their ears tickled.

    • @jimijames7703
      @jimijames7703 6 месяцев назад

      So what does that tell you about these buildings?

    • @scootamikekannegieter6549
      @scootamikekannegieter6549 6 месяцев назад +3

      That’s so sad I think. Did you ever overcome that hurdle at any of those churches ?
      It really says allot about the pastors who were there before you I think !!

    • @JohnLoughlinPreachOrDie
      @JohnLoughlinPreachOrDie 6 месяцев назад +1

      I believe that.

    • @SlaveofChrist1
      @SlaveofChrist1 6 месяцев назад +1

      Been there, brother.

    • @Blessedhope83
      @Blessedhope83 5 месяцев назад

      Dealing with this currently, thankfully though, I’m starting to see the years bear fruit.

  • @ChristoConfido1985
    @ChristoConfido1985 6 месяцев назад +14

    I had never heard this portion of Dr. Lawson's testimony. What a faithful, faithful man. God bless TMS and the men at GCC. Thank you for sharing this!

    • @franklogan494
      @franklogan494 5 месяцев назад +1

      H.B. Charles on his Utube Channel, has a two part interview with Pastor Lawson, if you are interested.

  • @ehudsdagger5619
    @ehudsdagger5619 5 месяцев назад +5

    In the future, time stamps with the questions would be super helpful. Thank you, Master's Seminary!

  • @Christ-CenteredPodcast
    @Christ-CenteredPodcast 6 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome panel. God Bless You All saints.

  • @surenshrestha6405
    @surenshrestha6405 6 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome panel

  • @jdmbraceyourself695
    @jdmbraceyourself695 6 месяцев назад +1

    You guys are awesome

  • @2wheelz3504
    @2wheelz3504 5 месяцев назад +5

    I agree with Thomas that the 10 commandments are foundational to effective government. In fact, I believe they are God's formula for a society that will prosper with relational purity.

  • @PaDutchRunner
    @PaDutchRunner 6 месяцев назад +8

    Logos is absolutely overwhelming lol

  • @user-dc5xi8pq6c
    @user-dc5xi8pq6c 6 месяцев назад +13

    Lawson can speak for hours with no stop

    • @henbra7930
      @henbra7930 5 месяцев назад

      True. Do you like it or not?

    • @josiahpulemau6214
      @josiahpulemau6214 5 месяцев назад

      @@henbra7930😂

    • @user-dc5xi8pq6c
      @user-dc5xi8pq6c 5 месяцев назад

      Sometimes is not enough time for the other people

  • @pastorjimwalls5924
    @pastorjimwalls5924 5 месяцев назад +10

    I've been in the ministry now for over 24 years and I can attest to the sad reality that most churches & church goer's can't even handle deeper theology. I teach using verse by verse exposition & some thematic preaching as well. My experience has been that most congregations still need to be fed milk and can't handle the meat of deeper truths. Christian's really need to stop making Pastors the scapegoat for their poor spiritual health. You an an individual Christ follower have the responsibility to study and drink from the depths of Holy Scripture. I'm finally but thankfully at a Bible believing church that loves the teaching & preaching of God's Word. Most of our people actually bring their Bibles to church. Imagine that. 😂😊.

    • @AnonyMous-if1od
      @AnonyMous-if1od 5 месяцев назад

      Very well said, @pastorjimwalls5924!

  • @user-iv4zg7mf1k
    @user-iv4zg7mf1k 5 месяцев назад +3

    Please am from Pakistan and i am a christian and its my humble wish l service the Lord and get bible education from abroad

    • @henbra7930
      @henbra7930 5 месяцев назад +2

      Hey Brother, Jesus bless you there in Pakistan.

    • @user-iv4zg7mf1k
      @user-iv4zg7mf1k 5 месяцев назад

      @@henbra7930 thanks pastor God bless you

    • @josiahpulemau6214
      @josiahpulemau6214 5 месяцев назад

      Stay at it brotha. May God bless you abundantly in the riches of His wealth in Holy writ 🤙🏾🙏🏾🇦🇸

    • @donaldgiltner7232
      @donaldgiltner7232 4 месяца назад

      May God continue to bless us all especially those living where they don't have the freedoms some have.❤

  • @user-iv4zg7mf1k
    @user-iv4zg7mf1k 5 месяцев назад

    Praise the Lord hallelujah kindly pastor plz don't mind tell me how am apply for this college on my self charges plz 🙏🙏

  • @2wheelz3504
    @2wheelz3504 5 месяцев назад +2

    An excellent discussion. We tend to bring new interpretations to the Word of God not thinking that these things have been thought through by men as Godly as we are, and maybe more so, for 2,000 years. The problem arises when we almost always go back to one segment of the Reformation in our historical theology (with the exception of Augustine since Calvin uses him exclusively), and not to others. We throw in, "oh, and of course, Scripture" so we appear biblical when our primary thought sources are human. I know all of the panelists are reformed, but Lawson's "ah hah" moment in seminary was almost salvific when he talked about the "doctrines of grace." An honest theologian must admit that there is one doctrine of grace which is manifested in countless ways. Limiting it to five serves the "system" and not Holy Scripture. He was excellent, however, on original sin.

    • @trh1493
      @trh1493 5 месяцев назад

      Lawson has wisdom & a heart for God and loves to talk about preciousness of his Savior...we should all be like that....

    • @2wheelz3504
      @2wheelz3504 5 месяцев назад

      I'm sure that is true for the most part, but I have heard him call those who do not part their hair exactly as he does theologically, heretics and unbiblical. Far better to say that you do not agree with their interpretation of that passage than to label them as practically outside the faith.@@trh1493

  • @2wheelz3504
    @2wheelz3504 5 месяцев назад +4

    I really like Naselli's approach to "Christian Nationalism." A lot of wisdom here. Keller was dogmatically anti-CN and it was divisive and not helpful.

    • @leeshadrick3155
      @leeshadrick3155 5 месяцев назад +1

      Because Keller was a wolf to mark and avoid.

    • @annerector8765
      @annerector8765 4 месяца назад

      @@leeshadrick3155 Amen....Keller was NOT a Christian. NOT in the least.

  • @robertmccown7525
    @robertmccown7525 6 месяцев назад +2

    Next up, Moses and Elijah

  • @jaymiller5494
    @jaymiller5494 6 месяцев назад

    @14:00 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @estherlong807
    @estherlong807 5 месяцев назад

    I believe Derek Thomas' mike is either turned off or the volume is severely low. at the 48:51, Just saying.

  • @briannimrod386
    @briannimrod386 5 месяцев назад

    @ 15:00

  • @RestorationMinistries-qj2nm
    @RestorationMinistries-qj2nm 5 месяцев назад

    And so they wrap it up. The least of them is a brier and the most upright is shaper than a thorn hedge.

  • @hauthang85
    @hauthang85 6 месяцев назад +2

    So, I am still lost… Is Jesus eternally submits to the Father? What was the answer?

    • @gdot9046
      @gdot9046 6 месяцев назад +1

      No. Just in his incarnated state.

    • @gytmarv123
      @gytmarv123 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@gdot9046Jesus is GOD the Father Incarnate. The humanity is subject to the Spirit. God is one!

    • @PastorJacobFrett
      @PastorJacobFrett 6 месяцев назад

      No, that is not right. ​@@gytmarv123

    • @gdot9046
      @gdot9046 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@gytmarv123no. Jesus is not the father. Read nicene creed.

    • @gytmarv123
      @gytmarv123 5 месяцев назад

      I reject all extrabiblical creeds, and believe only the Bible.@@gdot9046

  • @svenskbibel
    @svenskbibel 5 месяцев назад

    This time they all seemed to have difficulty finding words and struggled to express themselves, and it became quite unclear what they really wanted to say. Nor did they seem particularly alert and engaged. Perhaps they were a bit tired and drowsy after a hearty evening meal? But we all have our slumps. They will surely come back next time, God bless them!

  • @davidsutter1846
    @davidsutter1846 6 месяцев назад

    Is Steve referring to Dallas Seminary?

  • @SimonDMal
    @SimonDMal 5 месяцев назад +3

    According to Lawson, once you're not a full-blown Calvinist anymore, then you're on the way to apostasy.

    • @tomh3721
      @tomh3721 3 месяца назад

      Loosening a grip on sound doctrine is much more likely to result in slipping off completely than someone who holds on firmly. Not a 100% certainty but generally more likely.

    • @SimonDMal
      @SimonDMal 3 месяца назад

      @@tomh3721 I understand, but making 5-point Calvinism the standard of truth used to measure the likelihood of apostasy is far-fetched. In fact, thousands of orthodox evangelical Christians adhered to an Arminian view and did not end up in apostasy from the general tenets of the Reformation. I have yet to be convinced that, historically, there is a causal relationship between abandoning 5-point Calvinism and apostasy from the evangelical faith. Of course, my argument presumes that we both agree that reformed Arminianism and reformed Calvinism are to be considered within the boundaries of evangelical orthodoxy.

    • @tomh3721
      @tomh3721 3 месяца назад

      @@SimonDMal I’m not in disagreement with most of what you’re saying or Lawson to be honest I think not holding to confessional Christianity is the problem. Without those safeguards for doctrine almost all churches end up abandoning reformed orthodoxy, though I will add I don’t believe arminians are in any sense reformed

    • @SimonDMal
      @SimonDMal 3 месяца назад

      I understand and agree with the importance of confessionalism. However, we can respectfully agree to disagree about Reformed Arminanism. God Bless you! Thank you for the polite interaction@@tomh3721

  • @nigelmcculloch3746
    @nigelmcculloch3746 6 месяцев назад

    We see the father in Jesus because he has been with God for untold millions of years and is the first born of creation, that's why Jesus could say that, exactly like someone might say you look, sound, talk and act like your father but is not the father

    • @gytmarv123
      @gytmarv123 5 месяцев назад

      Isaiah 9:6

    • @nigelmcculloch3746
      @nigelmcculloch3746 5 месяцев назад

      @@gytmarv123 thanks for your reply, that scripture is more evidence of Jesus's position in relation to his creator, God, he (Jesus) is a mighty God not the almighty God, there other gods referred to in the scriptures, for instance read 2Corinthians 4 v 4, Jesus himself also referred to this god as the world ruler John 14 v 30; 1John 5 v 19; in other places in the bible idols are called gods. He is called the eternal father because he has been given the authority to resurrect the dead Matthew 28 v 18; the prince of peace again shows his position in relation to God, a prince is the son of a king.

    • @gytmarv123
      @gytmarv123 5 месяцев назад

      That scripture calls him the Everlasting Father.

    • @gytmarv123
      @gytmarv123 5 месяцев назад

      @nigelmcculloch3746 also, in Revelations 1:8 Jesus calls himself the Almighty.

    • @nigelmcculloch3746
      @nigelmcculloch3746 5 месяцев назад

      @@gytmarv123 that is because he has been given the authority to resurrect probably 100,s of millions of people back to life Matthew 28 v 18; Acts 24 v 15; yes he is a mighty God and has enormous power and is going to make a appearance at Amagedom but clearly he is the first born of creation Revelation 3 v 14; God's son

  • @thembamaselane5885
    @thembamaselane5885 2 месяца назад

    Original sin is an Augustinian invention that insults Post exilic apostolic pre Augustinian Biblical understanding of Scripture. Reform, Catholic, Orthodox can't be the premise, the foundation, context of understanding the text of the Bible.

  • @SomebodysGrandmother
    @SomebodysGrandmother 5 месяцев назад +1

    Failures!!

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord 5 месяцев назад

      I'm sure that meant something to you.

  • @michelhaineault6654
    @michelhaineault6654 6 месяцев назад

    They talk about God theology BUT REFUSE TO CONDEMN THEIR FALSE GODS BEING THREE DIFFERENT GODS , they call it now TRI-UNITY just to seduce more. God never been three and is name is I AM and not WE ARE. If we see the Son WE SEE THE FATHER and nobody else.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord 5 месяцев назад +3

      They don't have false God's, they have one God. Wow, you want to complain about the Trinity yet don't even understand it. Also, you offer up no valid alternative doctrine.

    • @donaldgiltner7232
      @donaldgiltner7232 4 месяца назад

      Elohim is a plural noun. No one absolutely understands the Trinity.