Fathering Your Own Grandchild - Law & Order SVU
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- An esteemed religious spokesperson is revealed to have been having an affair and impregnated his son's wife.
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From Season 1, Episode 17 "Misleader" - When the pregnant daughter-in-law of a prominent religious figure is found slain in a hotel room, it is discovered she may have been having an affair.
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"this is grief talking"
"this is ME talking!"
i relally loved that part, because it showed that the husband didnt see her as a person capable of doing anything else other than following him blindly.
Right?! Can you spell narcissist?
Pary Cartoons exactly! And the fact that he made everything and everyone’s lives revolve around him, even the wife’s put downs were in relation to the father!
Him trying to gaslight her made me so mad🤣
that was how my dad thought of and spoke to my mom. he believes that she is weak and incapable to do anything without him. after some family drama that almost sent me to therapy, I supported her to file a divorce.
The way she says “a lifetime of grief” shows they’ve had issues from the beginning, and that this probably wasn’t the first time he’s cheated. Only this incident was the last straw for her because it affected their son. The fact he was willing to hurt his own child to satisfy his own ego shows he is truly depraved.
That son going "YOU!?" got me. Felt that. 👏🏽
Not surprising. All the hatred in the universe in one word.
Yeah.
The Soulja Boy song popped into my head right away 🙈🙈
@@justadjustor8993 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you were him in that situation, what else can you say???
Fun fact: The actors who play the father and son are father and son in real life.
Wow! That's amazing!
Never knew that awesome fun fact
Man that had to be fun. As well as the jokes on set
I figured something like that. They look strikingly similar to each other.
Wow that's amazing.
How that man had no remorse for it, thats even more terrifying
Yeah, the classic sorry they got caught, not sorry they did it and hurt you.
Sadly there are a lot of Morally and Mentally Challenged people in this world. It's why things a such a mess.
Yeah. Even the son had the sense to feel remorse when he killed her.
It's called 'malignant narcissism'. They feel no empathy, remorse, or guilt. They expect blind loyalty but ironically aren't loyal themselves. Amazing acting
These men are Everywhere especially the ones with endless incomes ✍🏻
His wife stole that scene. When she said what were you gonna call him. Her husband didn't know what to say. She Nailed it.
I agree 💯 percent
@@joelbotello1235 If the mother had known that for 2 years, why didn't she say something? Why didn't Sylvia tell her husband or hinted something, so he'd know? ? for 2 years?
@@landang7906 Maybe it was because she still loved her husband, or she didn't want her son to get hurt. It could be for a lot of reasons but you could tell that she had had enough at that point.
Talk about keeping it in the family. These are some very sick people.
I know right?
@@SuperSoldier26 right
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I just flashed on something. I remember an old episode of "Hawaii Five-O' (the real one). These hillbilly type people from the mainland came to Honolulu. They were one nutty messed up family. Once McGarrett caught them, they said "It wasn't killin' cuz they weren't kin, and it wasn't stealin' cuz they was already dead".
But she was no relation so the child would have been normal.
I felt so sorry for the wife. A lousy husband and losing her son who she clearly loves. Poor woman.
Poor woman? She knew all along and said nothing. She is as guilty as anyone here.
@@ajvanmarle Imagine having to try to tell your son that his father and wife were having an affair.
@@ajvanmarle she is not as guilty as anyone. She didn’t commit these acts.
@@ajvanmarle women always back each other up. Look at the comment section every time some mother kills her kid(s)... it's all "poor thing couldn't help it, she is postpartum!" comments from women. When Mary Kay Letourneau died, all the women were RIPing her and rewriting history to sell her molesting her husband as a "better love story than Twilight" and it was all "it may have started off wrong but grew into real love" etc.
@@ajvanmarle It'sthe daughter in law's fault a bit. She at least could have let the husband know when the old man started his advances. Granted shed looks down on her husband a bit, but she could have left, or told someone, instead of letting things escalate. The father is an old sick hypocrit.
Law & Order dealt with a lot of creepy and disgusting plotlines over their years. This is one of the creepiest. I wanna take a shower after that scene.
LMAO wash off the Oder
@@b2kzangelalwayz Oops! I’ll fix that 🤣
Donegal62 no silly lol it made it funnier :)
They’re actually father and son in real life ...makes it creepier
To me the creepiest is the Teacher who seduced & slept with a student not knowing it was his daughter
I know it's all acting, but man, I cannot blame that guy for being angry at his father. I would have been furious too.
Bruh how would you NOT be angry at the father
@@AreeeAsh It's impossible to. The man destroyed two families: his own and his son's family.
He was tame though haha. I'd have legit started swinging. May only get one good one but worth it if I'm already going in the box for life.
Had it been me I’d kill him. I’m already going to jail for one murder might as well make it two.
" My husband, my soon to be former husband fornicating with his son's wife"
She gave him the business saying that
Fathering his own grandchild 🤮
Those lines sank into my soul. Just looking at him.
So if the son hadn't killed his wife she would have gone on to have his son-brother? Happy families huh 😳😁
That’s just sick
@@rachelgarber1423 I can't agree with you more 🤮 thankfully it was just a scripted show and not real life 😁❤
@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 Things like that happen more often then people want to believe sleeping with in-laws is very common one lady married her daughters ex-husband
@@sammagny6548 ex is better than present husband.
@@Jade-ig9lq no it’s not specially if kids are involved it’s still disgusting 🤮
"We can finish this later" ...in the middle of a murder confession??! That's A+ police work right there.🤦♀️
It actually is his lawyer could say he made a confession under emotional distress
@@JustLikeAFlower yes. Emotional distraught folk CANNOT give honest testimony, let slone confession.
The police and judicial branch are firm, but not heartless.
😅😂 you know nothing
For those looking for a Biblical source, here it is: "You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter in law; she is your son's wife you shall not uncover her nakedness." Leviticus 18:15
we all know that the bible is, in many situations, about the last thing a minister of a big denomination would follow
the fact that people needed to be instructed not to do this is just messed up. It's kind of natural to find it wrong, otherwise it wouldn't be like that in many cultures and religions.
@nadiamccall4311
Well hence we are all sinners-
Temptation is human nature. And I agree it’s wrong Ofc
Technically, he wouldn't be fathering his own grandchild unless he impregnated his daughter. His daughter-in-law's child would not be his grandchild unless fathered by his son.
You nailed it
Biologically you are correct. But when it comes to social assumptions of paternity it's his putative grandchild.
In law is the key. In some cultures that means literally she is his daughter.
@@kellharris2491 Not in the culture with this family, though.
The child would legally be considered the husbands thus it would legally be his grandchild. Then there is the fact that clearly they would hide the child's true paternity so the son would have been unknowingly raising and acting as a father to his halfsibling and the father would be acting as the grandfather. In this way he would have fathered the child that was believed to be and legally would be his grandchild. Even if her being his daughter by law doesn't count in this families culture to many others it does, and in many other respects he would have fathered a child that was considered by everyone to be his grandchild. The mothers statement holds fact because that's exactly the way it would be seen.
the mother waited 2 years to tell the son and work on a divorce? Not nearly as bad as the father, but you aren't helping your son either
I wonder if she really knew who he was having an affair with. Given her rage, I'm thinking she only just found out but used the line to inflict damage. Sort of a "I'm gonna tell the world what you did in our divorce filings and it'll destroy you" She obviously loves her son more than life itself. I don't see her as the kind of woman who would watch him be hurt like that.
@@Mybpeterson If she did know about, she likely kept it a secret because he wanted to spare his son the pain of knowing about his wife's affair with his father. It's not something that comes up in a casual conversation.
Robert Foxworth played this part VERY WELL.
He should have AT LEAST received an Emmy nomination.
His portrayal here is
COLD TO THE MAX!!!
He blindsided his son and his wife with a calmness that really HAS to be seen to believed.
Almost chilling how he CALMLY explains to his wife that the son killed his wife AND how he CALMLY told her she was being hysterical due to her grief.
Chilling.
Foxworth has really blossomed the past 25 years into a real GEM of an actor especially when playing villains...in fact, another great acting job was on the original L&O where he played a writer who used a woman so much so the son killed someone and she was so wrapped up in Foxworth that when the son was arrested and arraigned her ONLY thought was of Foxworth, not her son. Foxworth gave her a cold stare and walked away at the end.
I may have missed a few elements here but check out that episode...it is tooo much.
Great job by Foxworth!!!
By the way, the way his "son" says "YOUU!!!!" is so visceral that it seems REAL. He was hurt and disgusted all at once.
That was good acting from the son... Probably learned that from his dad.
"Passion", (1999)...That Episode Was So Sad...All What That Son Did For His Mother That Ended Up All For Naught, In More Ways Than One...The Son Never Got His Mother's Love...And Despite Her "Innocence": The Mother Never Got The Guy...Smh. 😒
Mr. Foxworth was Elizabeth Montgomery's fourth husband.
@@bluecollarlit
Sure was
He's a very good looking man
@@mercedyzmarieguion292 Yes.
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Fun Fact: Aside from the actors playing father and son are father and son in real life, the father (played by Robert Foxworth) once acted in FALCON CREST (1981-1990), a contemporary soap opera of DALLAS. In real life he was also married to actress Elizabeth Montgomery, who played the title role of Samantha Stevens in BEWITCHED (1964-1972) until her passing in 1995.
Mariska was also on Falcon Crest as Carly Fixx
This is what I want. A whole channel that skips all the filler and goes straight to the end.
The way the guy said "my father" in such a soft and broken manner really gets me.
That actress ALWAYS plays rich, snobbish, elitest society women and she is always IMPECCABLE in her role.
But as messed up as what he did was, it wasn’t illegal. The only one in legal trouble is the son for killing his wife
He interfered with an investigation and participated in trying to hide and dispose of evidence, contaminated a crime scene, tampered with the body, he’s definitely in legal trouble. With his money and status he probably wouldn’t have gotten much of a sentence. But definitely legal trouble
@@taniele84 Not to mention his loss of status, both socially and with the church. His punishment will go far beyond the penal code.
Exactly! He may not go to prison but he lost all respect, family and friends and most probably his businesses.
No one will want anything to do with him.
@@supersonic2387 I mean he still sounds like Alabama's finest with his wreath shaped family tree plans 🤣
@@supersonic2387 Depends on where he lives. In Alabama, they'll just play the Banjo for him.
His father. His son. His brother.
Achievement Unlocked: Holy Trinity
Nice Chinatown reference.
@@sarahjaneheckscher6737 didn’t think anyone would get it!
Making babies with the daughter-in-law...how biblical, definitely old testament :)
Indeed
Just reminded me of Joseph’s brother, Jude.
Name the book bro! Lol!
@@TheDHEL13 his dad will go jail the old testament forbids that sorry God's law never changes
No not biblical or old testament, it defies the testaments and the bible. Thou shalt not commit adultery- one of the ten commandments set down by God, along with thou shalt not kill.
His own father destroyed his life and marriage 😢
We almost never see Cragen In on these interrogations. He does a Great Job, so do the Guest Actors!
I feel really bad for that guy. Growing up with a sociopath for a father. Then finding out that your remorseless father was sleeping with the woman you love and got her pregnant.😢😢😢 I hope that in the SVU universe they worked a deal so that he didn't spend the rest of his life inside.
The actor playing the father would kill it in a villain role his voice is perfect for it😂
His father would do anything to have a perfect family even if means destroying his son or daughter marriage to have the next family hair and not once care about his son feelings for being so useless by not being able to do anything without his father money by getting a into a good college, a job and fathering his own wife baby.
"Then I was looking at my hands around her neck and wondering what I was doing choking her"
I watched this episode at my friend's house once and his dad cracked up at that line, then we all started laughing. 😂😂💀
I think I would have run from the house and never looked back!
@@richardvinsen2385 He wasn't laughing in a sadistic way, more of an "Oh Lordy this show is cheesy" sort of way.
@@richardvinsen2385think you need to go outside more
Why would that be amusing to you? Says something about you, doesn't it?
That dad was a real sociopath. No conscience.. To sleep with his daughter in law? Not just immoral, but it screws the son up...
Yo svu’s been so long this scene has a tape recorder 😂
_[makes awkward gesture after Sharon leaves]_
This is so cool. I know the actor, Bo, who is playing the son. Sat with him at a gala last Saturday. He is the son of a friend. We were in a musical together many years ago.
The father guy played Admiral Layton in Star Trek Deep Space Nine
SWEET
That voice. I knew I recognized it from somewhere
Robert Foxworth
Chase Gilberto - Falcon Crest
He also voiced Ratchet in the Michael Bay movies
Nice guy, he puts his son in jail , he loses his wife (and he'll be paying her thru the nose when she divorces him) . He did a great job of ruining his family and his own life, fooling around with his own son's wife, who also is now dead, because of him. Seems to me that he should be the one going to prison .
With his money, this grandpa could have enjoyed so many beautiful young women of his own choice in this God's green earth. Why messed up with your own daughter in law and risked getting caught?
Some guys are just plain dumb.
Yeah it's a shame this sick evil person wasn't smart enough to avoid getting caught
It's the allure of taking someone that doesn't belong to him.
Yep and this is some sick s**t
Or he could have just been faithful to his wife like a good Christian man. 🙄
@@taraz6786 true enough but assuming he didn't want to do that he had options options that weren't his son's wife
This reminds me of another episode where the father and the daughter were having a long term affair. Whenever the daughter got pregnant with her father’s baby she would dump the body in a random place and then go back to her dad to get working on the next baby.
Which episode was this?
What… Wha… WHY??? No man’s that good!!!
The episode is "Taboo", season 7 episode 14
@@lenawagenfuehr53Thank you!
@@denisecarson8405Season 7 Episode 14
lenawagenfuehr53 passed it on.
To quote Chris Rock: "I'm not saying he should've killed her! But I understand."
So creepy. An affair does not justify murder
Pity he didn't kill his father instead.
So you're saying that it's understandable to commit murder just because she cheated?
Firstly, you both are taking a RUclips comment way to seriously. Secondly, understanding how someone in that situation might just snap and do something truely awful isn't the same as justifying it. Just like how some affairs can also be understandable but of course not justified. They're not equal either, just understandable.
Now many many years ago when I was 23, I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be...
Just what I was thinking: "I am my own grandpa; Yes, I am my own grandpa; It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so ...."
Really?
@@SuperSoldier26 It's from a song: "I Am My Own Grandpa."
If you're interested: ruclips.net/video/eYlJH81dSiw/видео.html
Got to love that movie, THE STUPIDS
I felt that "YOUUUU!!"😕
Captain Cragen is the best I miss him
That is one of those Shakesperean tragedies that we all hear about.
I always read SVU as SUV
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😂
Technically, it's not fathering his own grandchild. The son's wife wasn't related to him. Step-grandchild perhaps, but then the pair get a divorce and never treats the kid as his own, so he's just the father and the other is half brother. :p
He's probably wondering how much money he has to pay to cover up his little screw up. Rich jerks. They get on my nerves so much.
Looking back at this episode The Father Clearly destroyed his own family (and the one he truly hurt is his son)
Son: What the hell is going on here?
Detective: Sweet Home Alabama!
Robert Foxworth was such an amazing actor
Some people just cannot keep their pants zipped up
Now that's a family you'd see on Maury Povich.
In another clip of the same episode the son's wife was said to have been flirting with the Accountant. She definitely wasnt a keeper. Dont know why the son put up with her for so long.
Two whole years and his mother didn't say anything. That's ridiculous.
Did she actually know??? I mean I think its implied that she just found out now.
My god America, your writers come up with some crazy stories!
Some are based on newspaper articles
many are based on real life The real life scandal of Jerry Falwell Jr is pretty dark.
Thing about Law & Order is that many of their storylines are based on actual events
@@SportsSpeak73 yep that's always been their model.
I wonder if they will ever bring Jefferies back. I really liked her
They did indeed bring her back. I'm not sure which season though. But they did bring her back.
@1:38 that was quite the you. It’s like an artillery shell exploding, sudden and violent.
"BANG!"🤬🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋
Wow! The wife knew for 2 years and the husband really suspected nothing?! Then she decides to divorce him! He certainly underestimated her.
"he's my son" (slap) "he's my grandson!" (slap) "he's my son!' (slap) "he's my grandson!" (slap) "HE'S MY SON AND MY GRANDSON!"
Talking about keeping it all in the family
I wouldn't have even talked.
I would have been over that table in 0.06 seconds flat and I would have delt with the assault charge.
patricide ?
@@rickkhemai1443 100%
The grandfather doesn't even care.
The father knew that he did was wrong and disgusting 🤢🤮by impregnated his daughter in law!!!
That had to have been the most angry heart wrenching “You” I’ve ever heard.
Fathering your own grandchild?
It wouldn't be grandchild lol
Now, THAT is an Egomaniac there!
You kind of feel bad for the Son yeah he killed his wife only because she was cheating on him and to find out she was pregnant and with his father's baby which is messed up.
ONLY?!
I mean not only the microphone didn't get my words correctly.
I find it odd that the father could be here in this time, while also serving as an Admiral in Starfleet in the 24th century. Though, I find it even more strange he was also the head of Vulcan High Command in the 22nd century...
He ran a winery in the 80s
Always loved the captain a great character loved his funnies about sobriety
Robert Foxworth played Paul buher in The Omen 2 who was on the Antichrist's side. Robert alson did another Law and Order SVU episode in season 7 called "Rockabye he didn't play a good guy too.
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You can't father your own grandchild.... it would be his own child.
Man imagine if they managed to get his actual wife to play the wife
Fathering a grandchild who was about to be born?! This man shouldn't be a grandfather anymore. Maybe he should stay away from his family, who are not going to talk to him after what he did.
Technically, the father would not have fathered his own granchild, unless the woman (his son`s wife) had been his own daughter ... as presented, he would have just fathered his own child ...
My god. Of that happen to me I’d have to terminate my child. Not because I don’t love them, but because I don’t want for them to grow up in confusion like that. It’s messed up for me and my baby.
I mean, a better solution is to not open your legs to your father-in-law in the first place. Surely that would have prevented the pregnancy entirely.
@@KurtCobainsMicrophone That’s true. But still.
Such fine actors on this series.
Chase from Falcon Crest.....dang
1:38 If words could kill
The mother seems upset over what the son did, but doesnt get fazed by the fact her husband was having an affair with the daughter in law? 5:14 oh ok. story gets more Jerry Springer by the second.
Okay, so you didn't watch the whole clip, where she refers to her soon to be ex husband fornicating with his son's wife...
I miss this
How did they know it was the father in law's baby ?, Did they have medical evidence the son / husband was infertile ?,If she was still sleeping with her husband the baby could have been his, It was wrong but the woman and innocent unborn baby did not deserve to die for it .
He's his own grandpa
Sharon: What were you gonna call him, Ben? "Son"? "Ben the Third"?
Me: Or "G.B." (Good Ben)
the Foxworths are amazing, I loved him in Falcon Crest
Fathering your own grandchild solved: their son is married to the mom if the fathers love child making him the child’s stepdad hence making the sons father the child’s dad and step grandpa and making the son the kid he thought was his child, his brother and stepson 🤨
Huh?
that's not his grandchild. that's the son's brother/sister 😭
Even though his wife was a murdered victim she was far from innocent. Not only betraying her husband but with his father and getting pregnant. That’s beyond repulsive. I understand the son’s reaction but murder is murder.
5:39
Excellent Display
i loved when cragen took a big part in the stories😁
Anne Twomey is a great actress.
For anyone wondering,
This is season 7 episode 14
This was some twisted S**T 😫😫
So they were just calling out the Ford family in this one. I like it.
Wow. Some of these early episodes went pretty hard. 😐 I forgot how twisted some of them were.
The father is a sociopath. Can just sit there with absolutely no remorse. He doesn't think he's done nothing wrong. He wasn't even surprised that he was the father to that news. Didn't even flinch.
BTW the son is a terrible actor. SLLLLOOOWWWW at the news that it was his father who got his wife pregnant. Wow!
Ben Hadley Sr. didn't go to prison but he should have.
" She's my sister.. She's my daughter !!! "
Even Lannister family values don't cover this!
Fun fact this type of incest is legal in 45 states in America 🙃
I swear, I think affairs should be illegal. That guy was an awful, miserable human being and he got off scot free because he didn't break the law. People would be less inclined to cheat if there were more serious consequences. So yeah, I think affairs should be illegal, if only because of the emotional damage they cause.
I agree it should't happen in the first place.
Personally I think it should at least invalidate any consent given if there's a reasonable expectation of the person to have not slept with other (like them being your spouse) and yet they have done so but haven't told you. Then it counts as SA or something of that sort.
It puts you at risks that you never agreed to, physically, mentally, and financially. It's just f'd up all around and really should be punished. Especially considering that marriage is supposed to be a LEGAL agreement.
Dear God, who in their right mind would sleep with their Daughter/Father in law?
People with an Electra Complex?
No way on God's green earth. Period.
My 8th grade sub played a cop on here once