It's Sick But Not Illegal - Law & Order SVU
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2021
- Stabler and Benson discover their murdered victim is older than they initially thought.
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From Season 2, Episode 9 "Pixies" - When a young gymnast is found murdered, Detectives Benson and Stabler investigate both her demanding coach and a wealthy benefactor.
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His "I did NOT!" is about as convincing as "I did not hit ha! I DID NAUGHT! Oh hi Mark"
😃
Hahahahahaha xDDDD
It’s a little Kate Mara! When you rewatch all these old episodes you see so many people getting the bit parts that catapulted them into an successful acting career! 😄
Yeah, several big name actors have pointed at this show for giving them some of their first roles.
@Don’t care! Her other grandfather is co-owner of the Giants too.
Ive ALWAYS found Kate to be the more talented of the Marea sisters
Yeah, well she is a family member of the owners of the ny football giants, so...
I can't with these because I love her but I can't see her as a child after house of cards and A teacher
"you have a blank check to help you solve the mystery but I draw the line as answering questions or giving blood" lol
I’ll help you put other people in prison but not me
You will be a detectives wet dream, if they ever suspect you of doing something wrong.
You should never give consent without a lawyer present, regardless of innocence. These shows pedal all sorts of BS saying you look guilty if you say no. I respect cops and I still say no.
@@jasonbelt8954 Well, BELT since you're among us, let me inform you; refusal to comply to certain questions strengthens the authorities' assumption of you as a suspect. This is exactly what game teaches us about interrogation.
@@TheMightyN Assumptions are just that, assumptions. Those don't hold up in court. You also realize they tell you that your words will be used against you in court, right? The more you say, they more they have on you. Basic 5th ammendment.
"Your honor, he said nothing so I assumed he was guilty"
"So you have no evidence?"
"Only my assumptions"
"Case dismissed".
Ah yes, let's touch everything with no gloves, contaminating the crime scene. Stellar work, detectives
😂ikr?
I can't believe i wanted to be like them when i was a kid.
3 things fooled me for it :
1.Long coats
2. That guy who wanted to catch scafild in prison break.
3. Patrick in the mentalist show
@@mehdihoseyni6352 Ah yes Patrick Jane. His understanding on psychology lets him get as close to psychic as anyone can convince me yet.
CSU may have already collected what they needed. They were just looking for motive.
@@wxclim8 but they had just gotten the search warrant. Wouldn't csi have to wait for that?
@@johnmcmanus2447 I don't trust RUclips comments btw
I agree with what was said at the end of the video about female gymnasts not looking their age. I'm reminded of a female co-worker of mine from years back. She had been or still was a gymnast. My co-worker was a college student but looked and sounded like someone maybe ten years younger.
It’s weird how male gymnasts are ripped to the max but female gymnasts need to be as small as possible. I wonder why that is.
@@Sam-nz3vj I agree. It doesn't make sense. Detective Benson mentions how girls don't eat so as to keep their weight down and the result is no monthly cycle which means no estrogen which means no growth. There's no reason why female gymnasts should not be allowed the normal, healthy physical maturity and weight of their male counterparts.
With male wrestlers you can find a similarity to female gymnasts: the effort to keep their weight down so as to be in a certain class of wrestler based on weight. A wrestler that I knew was all muscle but noticeably short. I suspect he stunted his growth because of self-starvation. I also know of high school wrestlers carrying a can with them in school so they could spit into it rather than swallow their own saliva. The liquid in the can was that much less liquid/weight in their bodies. I don't know all the detatils but my understanding is wrestlers want to be in a low-weight class of athletes but with muscles of the higher weight-class and a way to do that is reduce the weight of liquid in the body. I hope these foolish and dangerous practices for both female and male athletes are on the way out.
@@andrewbrendan1579 yes, I heard something about, what happens when women physically train and work out so often that they loose their period.
That would be a cool conversation starter. "You do gymnastics?" "Yeah since early highschool how'd you guess?" "Oh just a lucky guess" *winks*
@@Sam-nz3vj there's a video about that on RUclips because female gymnast used to be built just like Olympic skaters but now there's a demand for them to be petite because they think it makes them more aerodynamic when in reality the strongest gymnasts are built like strong women, not like little girls
Why is it there's so many men involved in girl's gymnastics? What? There aren't woman gymnastics coaches?
There are but unfortunately there’s this notion amongst the gymnastic associations that men are better at coaching then women. Read it in some old article can’t remember its name but it was written in the mid 2000s. I was a kid and was wondering myself why men coaches dominate in gymnastics so came across that article. I’ll look it up and paste it on here.
@@kayanurshiya3778 I think it has to do with both the emotional and psychological role men and woman play. woman are often caring and considerate in regards of their athletes, kinda the mother figure that lets them know they can do better. while men are the other side, strict and demanding taking the father role. much like a child, the athletes think of these coaches as parents to the point they want to get praise from them more then from their own parents. female coaches are the ones who step in after a lost and help build the person up while the males demand perfection all the time, the ladder of which makes amazing stars while the former makes better people which is why most parents op for male coaches
Why there are so many women involved in education? What there are no male teachers? lmao.
There are more these days.
Men have the upper body strength to spot them better. Those girls are very bulky and heavy. There are women coaches too.
Benson is good at carrying empty coffee cups 😄
😂I thought the same thing
Knowing what actually happened to women's gymnastics this is ire.
…That is not what ire means.
Ironic?
fire*
@Turd Ferguson eerie*
Ire is anger.
She gets all the best gifts, bracelets and stuffed animals. I wonder if the best foods are filet mginon and Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
As underweight as those girls were? Probably eggs Benedict, a little caviar, washed down with a laxative smoothie, assuming they didn't puke it all up 20 minutes later.
Dark humor at its finest 😭😭😭💀💀
You have a blank check to catch her killer… Except for that part where I have to do anything.
That's Armond Schultz as the real estate broker here. Without looking it up, he's been on multiple L&O episodes in the franchise.
They're in the middle of the investigation, questioning suspects, and don't even know the victim's age? Very weird.
What's more important? Knowing the girl's age or finding out who killed her?
@@kyndrablankenship1758lol they didn't know that either. Just saying it's weird not to know basic details, is all.
@@kialuvsyoo from what I know, gymnastics go under heavy duty diets so they look a lot younger than their actual age
I love when they threaten people with jail and end up looking stupid because they didn't do their homework on their victims backgrounds before pointing the finger at suspects.
@@kyndrablankenship1758 both. They were accusing someone of having an intimate relationship with a minor when she was actually a legal adult.
So many one-liners in seven minutes!
Ah yes the best presents....... stuffed animals
Stuff it full of chocolate and wine and I'll be happy 😂
@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 you're talking my language! 🍷🥂🍫🍩🍪🤣🤣🤣
I can be bribed with stuffed animals
Don’t pretend you’re too good for plushies lol. Although I wouldn’t take them from a creepy guy like the suspect he might put a camera in it or...contaminate them 👀
Don't be too judgemental. Some stuffed animals can be extremely pricey/valuable. Stein Teddy Bears can sometimes go for upwards to $5000. And lets not forget the Beanie Baby Craze of the late 90s...
I have to believe this is Kate Mara's first acting role.
It's not, but it's close. And and episode of the original L and O *was* her first role.
Does anyone notice when the detectives enter the love nest - they’re not using gloves 🤔
it's a show what do you expect bruh
@@lazy5418 right, I see new comments hating on the show and I’m like… it’s fake, and it’s old lmfao
As a failed pathologist, I can't tell you the number of times I mentally screamed watching a cop/LEO procedural show, where the investigating officers walks into an active crime scene, still wearing their street clothes ...
... but then I had to get over myself, despite the crazy levels of cross-contamination ...
@@nigelft I bet you can't watch Columbo then :)
Why didn’t they check her birth certificate in the first place instead of relying on “he said she said”.
Cause cops have their ego so far up their asses they rather just go by what they are seeing instead of following actual evidence
And... wouldn't the coroner be aware of this? I mean they'd have access to medical records, birth records, etc. as part of their investigation wouldn't they?
Admittedly I don't remember the entirety of the episode, but I'm sure that would have come up before having to rely on that guy to tell them. Hell if they thought she was 16, they'd have to notify her parents. And whether they're real parents or surrogates playing the part, I'd think they'd spill the beans on her actual age, especially in a situation like this.
Because she looks like a 14 year old. If someone looks 14, was in a program for adolescent gymnasts and everybody who knows them thinks they're 14, they're not going to put in a call to the county records office in Powhattan New York to request a copy of a birth certificate.
In a case like this they would find out she lied about her age from her family or next of kin. I forget why no next of kin was available to claim the body and answer questions.
And the coroner is going to be establishing cause of death, not checking bone deterioration for an accurate age.
Love watching law and order both me and my dad💓😎
I feel like Korska is a fictionalized version of Karolyi
U might be onto something 🤔
I think you are spot on
CORRECTION: That is what we call Adult-Grooming, and yes, that kind of relationship can be illegal being placed under domestic abuse. It is also wrong of the suspect to abuse his power to fixate his libido. In other words, Hubie the Laughing Man in some parallel dimension where the law is firm with their technicalities you're going to jail. Did I hit the mark, ladies n' gentlemen?
Indeed. He took advantage of the massive imbalance in the power dynamic and it's disturbing. 🤢
Exactly, does anybody happen to know how the episode ended?
Best comment ever!!
@@sherrybaby8623 Thank you. I dabble in this stuff once in a few moons or after a good vibe.
Without a complaining witness, you could never make a solid case.
One mistake with the writing, age of consent in New York is 16, she was legal either way.
17
Still makes it sick, he was old enough to be her dad, plus she said he reminded her of her dad and she called him papi.
Stabler has a handsome appeal.
He was buttramming Beecher in Oz.
Woh! Kate Mara?
With her real nose!
Usually they try to pass 13 year old gymnasts as 16, not 19 year old gymnasts as 16.
Why would anyone do that? What benefit is their to entering a 13 year old as a 16 year old in competition? She will just lose big style. Where as if you enter a 19 year old into 16 year olds competition, the 19 year old will be alot better than the other contestants. Some African footballers have been caught doing the exact same thing. I think your comment is completely backwards and wrong 😂😂
@@adam.677 This isn't football, it's gymnastics. Haven't you ever wondered why gymnasts are so short? The smaller someone is, the stronger they are proportionally, and the easier it'll be for them to spin at high speeds. In the Olympics, China is constantly being suspected of sneaking underage gymnasts into gymnastics for that reason, and you would find a flood of news articles about it if you bothered to look. But you didn't look. Instead you accused my comment of being completely backwards and wrong.
@@BigSlimyBlob No they are NOT all short. What the hell are you talking about,😂 small people are not "stronger proportionally" ether!! You are so full of B.S it's hilarious 😂 20 year old gymnasts absolutely wipe the floor with 13 year old gymnasts. You are the one who can't be bothered to do some research. If what your saying has any 6 all the top gymnastics records would be held by kids, and guess what? There not
Nostalgia.
Well at least she was technically of legal age
Seriously
Literally why didn't they have her birth certificate already?
She may have given a false one to the coach who was acting as a guardian so they might not have had the real one originally
I had that exact purple bear.
Kate Mara @ 3:11 ?
and it ended up to be one of the girls that she train with that killed her.
Talk To My Lawyer!!!!
She's right it's sick but not illegal
Cragen!!
It's sick but not illegal
I hope this is good enough
Seeing the power dynamic of their relationship, it seems like it would be illegal in most places in the US.
I don't think back then it was. It really seems like the whole bosses shouldn't sleep with their employees rule came about recently because Jack McCoy as the show pointed out was both boss and lover so I don't think that was enforced or maybe the law wasn't even around back in the 90s/early00s
God bless you.
It is not illegal to give a 19 year old woman lavish gifts and have a sexual relationship with her anywhere in the United States. It's called being a Sugar Daddy or a Gold Digger and it's perfectly legal.
For it to fall under sexual harassment statutes the attention would have to be unwanted, or they'd need to establish a quid pro quo relationship where the pervert was making her coach give her preferential treatment to the detriment of the the other girls. The pervert here is insulated both by the nature of their relationship being secret from her actual employer and the numerous tapes he recorded that establish their relationship is consensual.
It's sick but not illegal. Because it's not a motive for killing.
Oh god he's like an internet troll only he goes outside
6:18 this gymnast on the floor exercise has a week transition from her front step out to round off back handspring. She’s loosing all of her power and momentum; especially when ending the run with a double salto (ie double back; Arabian double back) or a layout single, double or triple twist (or any twisting variation).
ma’am this is a show 😭 i doubt they’re professional gymnasts or planned on actually getting into gymnastics after the show
Losing*
The commenter above included several spelling errors in their commenting routine, which in a real spelling competition would have had a negative effect on their score.
Found the gymnast
I love Olivia Benson
This show is sick but not illegal
That looks like the moves that the MMPR do
Anyone else see the irony of a bunch of actors saying how horrible it is for the guy to like them young and getting on their high horse about an industry chewing up young women and spitting them out when they get too old?
Too old being in their 20's and having arthritis by age 30. My childhood friend competed and even tried out for the olympics. . . .I have learned a lot and she has a fractured pelvis and other stress fractures and when I was in gymnastics with her in high school she would just tape up her foot even when it was so bad I don't know how she walked on it, let alone was practicing on it!!! She is barely 35 yrs old and her x-rays remind me of an 80 yr old woman. She had big name sponsors whose clothes she needed to wear and energy drinks she needed to be drinking at meets and posting on her social media, but I would estimate she wears the same size as when we were in high school and she has openly said how she gave up kids for it as she couldn't have kids and keep her body in the condition it needed to be in.
When that girl does the flip thing that almost reminds me of the Green Ranger
The killer in this episode is portrayed by actress Kate Mara, who is also the sister of another great actress Rooney Mara (who is engaged to Joaquin Phoenix and they have a son together named River in honor of Joaquin’s older brother who was also very talented and tragically died at only 23 years old).
Kate Mara is also married to another fellow actor, Jamie Bell, and they have children together.
A very talented family between them all!
They would be wearing gloves searching the apartment.
Only the best stuffed animals, beanie babies
He has to feel some kind of remorse, an abuser giving victims gifts (jewelry, stuffed animals, etc) is normally a sign of guilt, he knows what he did was wrong, but he wants to keep a brave face and it makes him look even more disgusting than he is.
It's grooming, not guilt.
@@definitelynotmothman6171 It’s both. He feels guilty because he groomed her.
Sound like somebody I heard of.
Name rhymes with fates.
Is it Gates
Gregory Yates
@@courtneyadams-belzer6046 I think so.
Different spelling. More ethnic.
BILL MURRAY Gat Maetz?
Matt Gatez for $200 Alex.
Did y’all notice her say did you give it to her that night lol
She was only 16.... no she was 19 WHAAAT
Anna Kendric and Kate Mara looks similar
Really even tho I don't know this kate I thought she reminded me of a younger hailey steinfeld to me🤷🏾♀️
i think that was hayden from ahs
I’ve never been so early
That's not what my mom said.
@@phobos258 don’t make me laugh
The real horror is that the Olympic gymnastics team and some colleges allowed Larry Nassar to molest girls for over 20 years, pretty much since his career started. He acted nice to the girls because coaches were so cruel. So they trusted him but didn’t understand he was a predator, and now he’s been beaten in prison. No one listened to the first victim to come forward, he was doing this to Olympic gold medalists, and other top performing athletes who trained their whole lives to achieve what they achieved, this is a lack of respect and care for our own female gymnasts and shows that they are not valued but seen as objects for adult coaches to get famous like the husband wife team the Karoly’s who had a ranch where a lot of abuse occurred. And it even happened when they were competing at the Olympics. Even some of the women covered for the predator. Everyone that covered it up should have lost all rights to having any career or make money off these girls who sacrifice their lives, their health and being normal their whole lives. I read the saddest story about this Russian or Eastern European gymnasts that was pushed to do her gymnastics and was paralyzed because of the coaches pushing her to perform while hurt, she said she was relived when it happened so she wouldn’t be pushed like that anymore, she died a horrible death and was forgotten about. She deserved live long care, they should have been serving life for causing it and she deserved a medal of her own, because she would have been an Olympic gymnast if any one had cared to protect her. It’s ridiculous what is done to young females and same when football players get hurt early on and their brain is destroyed. That’s why I don’t like football. My brother was badly hurt and made to play when he had a horrible concussion and it caused him to have horrible issues after that form traumatic brain injury, I watched this dr talk about how their brain is like an egg yolk being bounced around and that the helmets provide do not provide the protection they need. It just causes the brain to be bounced around.
It's the one liners for me
The interaction at 3:58 is not believable. They should have had the guy stacking boxes.
Was that Erin Moriarity?
Was that Kate Mara?
Yep
The nose job changes a gal!
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Gloves, anyone?
Hubert. Apt.
18 AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Ice-t😅
Season episode?
Edit. Nvm I got it
read the description box.
For what the gymnasts have to do to be the best,ot keeps them from looking older.for mistakes,blame the scriptwriters.
Law and order svu still a great show after Law and order and Law and order dreamland internation.
I actually have to take issue with that train of logic - unless they're saying that girls who look like that can't date anyone or have sexual relationships, they are obviously going to end up dating people who find that kind of physique attractive. It's not even really sick - are they supposed to stay pure and virginal until they *look* old and mature enough for the DA's tastes?
I think it's more the age gap in relation to the looks of the gymnastics than only the looks of the gymnastics.
He is in a powerful position that can directly be executed over her, it's called abusing the power to take sexual advantages. Like old Harvey did
Coming from someone who’s of legal age but looks way younger because of my height, it’s a weird line to walk, trying to figure out if he’s a creep or not.
@@katelynnholt6699 I read a similar case somewhere about a woman who looked like she was 12 and she also had to keep a lookout on who she was dating just to be sure they weren't a creep.
Yeah, the show did this kinda of bc more than once too. Olivia being quite angry at a African man having more than one wife for example. I asked myself how much would she care if it was a nonconservative American guy in a relationship with 2 other women. Etc.
Is that Kate Mara?
After I started understanding about the constitutional laws this shows make no sense anymore. Nobody should EVER talk to the police in a consensual manner
Kate Mara?
So creepy, especially when you remember that 19 year olds can vote.
nawal👩✈️🚔
It’s sick but not illegal can also apply to anchovies and olives on pizza. That’s something that should be illegal.
You mean pineapple dont you
@@StarWarsHour 90% of Italians
no. Anchovies are disgusting. What sick person decide to put little fish on pizza.
@@StarWarsHour Italians do. They eat them on bread as well. Google it, you'll see they're very popular in Europe
Olives in general.
And I live about 35 minutes from the restaurant credited with putting pineapple on pizza, if you'd like me to pass along any messages. 🤣
Jamaica needs them trust mi😩😭
true dat
There is no such thing as witches so there is no such thing as a witch hunt. A criminal investigation means asking everyone hard questions and looking for facts. This is something the whole country needs to remember and believe. Police need to follow the rules just like everyone else. That is the real need for truth and justice.
There never were witches. But there were witch hunts. A witch hunt is a search for scapegoats and innocent peiple get destroyed.
What kind of argument is that? The whole point of the witchhunt analogy is there were no witches yet there were witch hunts because people believed erroneously in them.
It’s a figure of speech 🙄
As a witch myself I can only SMDH at the ignorance of that comment.
@@1313tennisman we aren’t an error.
Because men push harder maybe.
Good Morning Oscar...Rosastorage2021
If it’s not illegal, who the hell cares? It might be socially unacceptable, but I don’t see it as morally unacceptable as long as they’re of age.
I really hated the ending
"It's Sick But Not Illegal." Just like Piracy...I think.
You think creeps being attracted to people who look like children is the same as copyright fraud? I can't see the comparison, who loses their childhood through it? A company losing money isn't as terrible as adults preying on vulnerable and desperate teens imo. I might have misunderstood your comment though, were you being sarcastic? If so we are on the same page 😂 Either way I hope that you are well, no hate towards you. I am just not sympathetic to corporations who are only concerned with money, we can respectfully disagree however. You're probably just a squirrel trying to get a nut like the rest of us 😁❤
@@blahblaahh3004 Losing their money is an iffy. Reason I pirate games i because i wouldn't be able to afford them in the first place. These companies literally had no chance of getting my money in the first place so pirating isn't necessarily taking away from them
@@blahblaahh3004
It was an attempt at a joke.
actually, it's the exact opposite.Piracy is illegal but not sick.
@@blahblaahh3004 is that parody?
Whenever someone claims that they're victims of a "witch hunt", you know they're guilty.
It cracks me up how people like to comment all the ways in which the police and detectives on the show deviate from actual law-enforcement. Would probably be a lot more boring and longer if they did it by the book which is not why they made the show.😂😂😂😂😂
Gn
I say,
One of the female athletes killed her.
Killer might say ,i hate her so i killed her.
Or
she was the first n i was second so i removed her to be number one.
Or
She was using sx to get popular.
So we are dealing with depression and obsessive jealousy or obsessed with victory (those criminal who say: 😡i must be the boss of mafia, no matter what or who is in my way, 😡 i remove them all)
That's killer's software problems .
Hardware problems :
They never eat enough, they gain weight n they think they are getting fat. But they are growing, their weight must rise during growth.
With or without growing problems, they don't eat enough. Blood sugar is always low , n they are burning fat all the time, which is toxic AF . Low carb drop the serotonin level, so it's like dopamine increased , but it's not, they're just unbalanced,
either way with low carb n burning fat every day, dopamine make u aggressive AF. After one point you reach the level that i call : VFP = volunteer for psychos . Cause unlike other patient they haven't born this way, but they got volunteer for it.
And since the problem is feedback, if u put her in a cell n give her enough food n sunlight. After only a few days, she start to cringing n confess the the murder.
And i think you know what would happen if a psycho found a reason for removing you.
Now im not doctor or cop or jobs like that.
Im playing around, don't get obsessed with my comments.
Dating a 19 year old isn’t even sick.
If two adults are into each other, who are you to judge?
if he knew her/liked her before she was a legal adult, then he was pursing a minor/grooming. Plus she called him papi and he reminded her of her dad (he was old enough to be her dad), so that's just sick. It's the age gap that is inappropriate at least, she was barely an adult at 19 while he was middle aged (old enough to be her dad).
@@Inhisarms333
"if he knew her/liked her before she was a legal adult, then he was pursing a minor/grooming."
You have no context nor evidence to assume this happened.
"old enough to be her dad"
SFW? You're just being the morality police. If you don't like it, then no one else should do it.
People like you are the reason cannabis has been illegal for decades.
wander into a crime scene and touch all the potential evidense with no gloves..... dont find out how old she is before pulling in some guy for raping her..... what kind of "Detectives" are they..... this is the worst detective show ive ever seen..... if they contaminate the evidense this badly they could find their own semen at the crime scene, because if they dint care about their jobs this badly they probably dont wash their hands
Third
first one here ahhhhh
They still call the guy a predator even after proving the girl was over 18. Unbelievable
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Bulgaria has no medals in male gymnastics in the female artistic gymnastics, should have made more research in the name too. Not a Bulgarian name.
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Nothing wrong with the bedroom. Ageplay is very valid as long as all partners are adults and consenting. The issue is the adult women was lying about her age. She was a criminal. You cannot participate in child sports when you are not a child. Add to the fact that most female agile athletes all look 10 years younger than their actual ages, and you have a major issue. A 25 year old can easily pass for 15, getting free things because everyone assumes they're a child, winning child competitions easily because they're over mature for the age bracket yet no one questions is. There's literally nothing wrong with the man besides him abusing the power dynamic between them. Sleeping with someone on the team when you're tied to it is wrong.
Weirdo 🤢 it’s so creepy!
what's wrong with dating younger? they're tighter and more groomable
Get serious help