Reckless great lakes freighter nearly causes a do it yourself shipwreck

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • This is a firsthand look at how to almost end up shipwrecked. This is a how to lesson in coming too close to ending up in the frigid waters of Lake Erie in December of 1992. Here the reckless captain of a 767 foot long Great Lakes ore freighter sets a collision course with another laker and it is all caught on video. The captain of this lakeboat nearly created a do it yourself shipwreck. Details if the entire story are in my book "Shipwrecks and Rescues" www.authorwes.... This video has been edited from the original

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  • @melanieshub
    @melanieshub 3 года назад +99

    My dad was captain of the Callaway in 1981, her last year as a straight decker before being converted to self unloader during winter layup that year, along with her sisters, the Arthur M Anderson and Phillip R Clarke. It was also the last boat I was aboard, having grown up aboard USS boats. It's easy to see that the owners of the fleet now only care about money. I don't know of any captain under US Steel ownership that would take risks like this. It wasn't always that way. I remember when dad was first mate, although I'm not sure which boat at the time. The captain was Bob Phillips, and I was about 8 years old. We were downbound and just locked through the Soo and it was Canadian Independence day. Bob stopped the boat and reported engine trouble, although there was none. He stopped the boat just so I could watch the fireworks.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +12

      Great stories! Thank you for posting this!

    • @Local-Of-The-Mitten-State
      @Local-Of-The-Mitten-State 2 года назад +1

      sweet

    • @MikeAmerica219
      @MikeAmerica219 Месяц назад

      Cool 👍

    • @XRPeakyBlindAR
      @XRPeakyBlindAR 7 дней назад

      When i worked for ASC it was very evident. From the terrible food to the extreme unnecessary conditions that their only concern and still is, the bag. Especially when the captains get the bonuses. At the expense of the safety of others.

    • @melanieshub
      @melanieshub 7 дней назад

      @@XRPeakyBlindAR Terrible food? Wow, US Steel cooks were awesome. More so before the late 60's when they made everything from scratch. Cooks complained of never being able to go ashore in port, and USS went more to frozen foods. A good cook, however, could make frozen food taste like freshly made. Accidents happened, of course, but USS really put emphasis on safety. I remember we had a deckhand from Afghanistan. We were locking upbound in the Soo, and the aluminum ladder caught on the dock face, bent the ladder like a bow, then snapped and nailed that guy. Things happen.

  • @stacymirba1433
    @stacymirba1433 3 года назад +31

    Fascinating footage and when you consider this was 30 years ago before everybody had video on their phone it makes it even more amazing.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +12

      That camcorder was state of the art for non-professionals in its day too.

  • @creatrixZBD
    @creatrixZBD 3 года назад +18

    I just love the sheer volume of maritime/ship/boat enthusiasts/professionals etc that share their interest and knowledge via this platform. I am always discovering new people/channels who bring their unique character and areas of special interest to the genre, and the incredible amount of work and energy they out into running their channels is both admirable and enviable. I have leaned so much and gained such an appreciation for both the content creators and the maritime operating environment, and I am very grateful to have such an excellent and ongoing resource body for my layman’s curiosity.
    Thank you 🙏🏽

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Glad you're enjoying it!

  • @roderickcampbell2105
    @roderickcampbell2105 3 года назад +42

    "Too close for comfort" is one of those classic understatements. And I did not expect to hear "Venturi Effect". Fluid dynamics. A field that I always struggled with. Thanks Wes. You'll be getting a couple of book orders from my son or me soon.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +9

      Hey, I have a degree in Aeronautical Science... I should have a Venturi tattoo.

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 3 года назад +5

      I've felt the Venturi effect when truckers would pass me. I was limited to 60mph, so everybody wanted to pass. Some of them passed so close that I could feel the trailers being sucked together. After feeling that a couple of times, I would just tap on the brakes when somebody wanted to pass, just to get them off of my side faster.

    • @eltoro6688
      @eltoro6688 3 года назад +5

      @@authorwes , In NASCAR Racing we call the "Venturi Effect" the "Side Draft", We also call the Maneuver the Cap'n on the Cason pulled a "CRAZY IVAN".

    • @roderickcampbell2105
      @roderickcampbell2105 3 года назад +1

      @@eltoro6688 Thanks ElToro66. I've heard side draft a thousand times or more. Didn't know it was Venturi. There are a few crazy Ivans out there alright.

    • @squigglyline2813
      @squigglyline2813 3 года назад +5

      Close enough to throw some tomatoes at him for acting stupid!!

  • @imadequate3376
    @imadequate3376 3 года назад +7

    Your model ships are GORGEOUS!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +4

      They keep me sane.

    • @Cora404
      @Cora404 9 месяцев назад

      very nice models they from kit or built from scratch?

    • @imadequate3376
      @imadequate3376 9 месяцев назад

      @authorwes I've been trying to play Warhammer...key word trying.
      Too much fun assembling and actually painting. I've gone back and stripped a few of my old models from my childhood and redid them knowing now about shades and contrast paints they look presentable 😂

  • @michaelgarrity6090
    @michaelgarrity6090 3 года назад +59

    When I was in the Coast Guard, we considered any other ship being with a mile of us to be too close unless we were doing an unrep with that ship. This was definitely a close call. You have to wonder what that other ship's captain was thinking.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +27

      He was thinking only of beating us to the fuel dock.

    • @WindsorRailProductions
      @WindsorRailProductions 3 года назад +7

      out of my 10 years on the lakes working for csl I have never seen anybody or anything reckless happening except for the American Spirit grounding in Duluth

    • @howardgroover1343
      @howardgroover1343 3 года назад +5

      @@authorwes This must have been a scary thrill for you. Was there any communication between the two ships? I'm glad this popped up, I'm subscribed and like your story. Thanks

    • @thomassteenburg7220
      @thomassteenburg7220 3 года назад +4

      would have been serious repercussions if they had collided--VET USN/USCG

    • @trucking604
      @trucking604 2 месяца назад

      Did anybody show the video to the Coast Guard and or file a complaint or anything? What that Captain did was downright dangerous and should gotten some kind of reprimand.

  • @phyzyks
    @phyzyks 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for the reupload, its a shame the original is gone

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +4

      I had to make a minor edit and the only way to do that is to delete the original. You won't even notice the change but it was truly needed.

    • @Redwingster
      @Redwingster 3 года назад +3

      @@authorwes I KNEW I had seen a video about this before! Thanks for that clarification so I don't doubt my memory any more than I already do! The urge to fire torpedos at that knucklehead must have been powerful.

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo 3 года назад +5

    If only the other ship had a "How's my Driving?" sticker on the stern.
    Such a missed opportunity for universal irony.

  • @doberman1ism
    @doberman1ism 11 месяцев назад +2

    I grew up on the shore of Lake Erie, Ohio near the Fairport Harbor lighthouse and Coast Guard Station. The lake boats always intrigued me. I would watch them arriving into Fairport Harbor fully loaded low in the water and completely empty floating high on the lake. In the upper peninsula of Michigan I remember a Russian vessel sailing through the Portage River underneath the Houghton Hancock lift bridge from Lake Superior. Off the coast of Newport Rhode Island I would watch automobiles being transported on the ocean heading for Providence, Rhode Island. Several of Aristotle Onassis' ships were docked off of Rhode Island.
    I was a guest on board two Navy Destroyers. One on the Pacific Ocean off of San Diego and the other on the Atlantic ocean off of Newport Rhode Island. These were called Dependent Cruises. 🚢 I miss those days.

  • @timmclaughlin5033
    @timmclaughlin5033 3 года назад +2

    @4:51 mark my gut tightened up and I was bracing for impact, awesome footage.
    I grew up on the straits near CHEBOYGAN and loved sitting on the beach with binoculars watching the boats go thru the south passage....

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jeffrey9882
    @jeffrey9882 3 года назад +17

    With the shallow point and the rocks, he was lucky he didnt tear the ship in half.

  • @captainhml3868
    @captainhml3868 3 года назад +8

    Still a great video! Unbelievable the recklessness of that jerk.

  • @njresrie
    @njresrie 3 года назад +4

    That was difficult to watch, much less how it must have been in real-time. Glad you had a camera. Will check the books, thanks for the charts, etc. for context!

  • @nickphillips1721
    @nickphillips1721 3 года назад +67

    I wonder what would happen when the crews of two ships, in instances like this, end up in the same bar or dock ? Any stories about that ? Liked and subscribed, I live north of the blue bridges and watching the big ships is a local hobby.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +32

      No problems- they're really easy going folks. This was treated like someone cutting you off on the freeway.

    • @lesmawson7298
      @lesmawson7298 3 года назад +15

      @@authorwes did you flip him the “bird?”🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nascarfan88ta
      @nascarfan88ta 3 года назад +3

      Sometimes theres a "WTF were you doing back there"

    • @L3GHO5T
      @L3GHO5T 3 года назад +4

      Dunno about the states but being on the same bodies of water there most likely cut from the same cloth, so I’d say it would be a 50/50 for a good old fashioned bench brawl 🤣

    • @robertjaent6087
      @robertjaent6087 3 года назад +9

      @@authorwes these days you cut certain people off on freeway and they start shooting at you!. Other captain should have been reported to whatever governing board controls these ships (if there even is a control board)

  • @deanwoolston4794
    @deanwoolston4794 3 года назад +23

    This incident could have just as easily been another tragedy, on one of the Great Lakes. And just to save some money, many lives could have been senselessly,lost.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +5

      But at least I'd have had it all on tape... if I'd have survived.

  • @shanepatrick4534
    @shanepatrick4534 3 года назад +74

    Bad drivers seem to exist everywhere. Two ships of that size will be pulled by the low pressure area on the sides of the vessel right into each other. What a bad move by that fellow.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +14

      Especially when you see it in person.

    • @tc1uscg65
      @tc1uscg65 Год назад +1

      You know how I could tell this was near Detroit? No turn signal.

  • @michaellippmann4474
    @michaellippmann4474 3 года назад +31

    Wow....that was pretty amazing! Unbelievable how stupid the other Skipper was!
    Truly a lack of professionalism by that guy!
    Great Video and Thank you!
    Mike 🇨🇦🍁

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @jillsmcfarland2001
      @jillsmcfarland2001 3 года назад +1

      And not adjusting accordingly to the stupidity 🙄

  • @ellesmerewildwood4858
    @ellesmerewildwood4858 3 года назад +24

    Well of course he got away with it, most likely this behavior is encouraged by the ship's owners. I worked on a busy international airport tarmac for 30 years and while the rules for drivers on the airport apron are stringent, authorities would turn a blind eye to poor driver behavior as long as schedules were met.
    That is until there was ever an incident and arses would get kicked and heads would roll without mercy.
    And at a busy international airport, you can't pick your nose without being on some camera somewhere.
    In this situation, if there had been an incident involving injury, loss of life or loss of vessel, THEN heads would roll and there would be crying and gnashing of teeth. As always, only after an event does action get taken.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +6

      As a former airline captain I can personally say... YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!

    • @Irena_Posner
      @Irena_Posner 2 года назад

      @@authorwes I think that is a feature of many lines of business. A lot of people will turn a blind eye as long as "the ball keeps rolling and the gears keep turning". I don't like that, but that is still more understandable than those who turn a blind eye to violations just so they will have less work to do.
      I guess that was a long-winded way of saying: "I find greed to be more understandable reason to take risks than laziness"

    • @tc1uscg65
      @tc1uscg65 Год назад

      Here's hoping someone from the Marine Safety Office or MIO reads this for future reference. Wanna pee off the "company"? Have the MIO go onboard during fueling, shut it down and do a white glove inspection before fueling is allowed to continue, delaying their departure by hours, maybe a day. Wanna see the phone l ight up in the Operation Center? Just make sure you turn your phone off while doing said boarding. ;-)

  • @pitbull2743
    @pitbull2743 3 года назад +12

    Should have been a review of the captain and an explanation as to why he would put his crew and others in such a dangerous situation. I would love to hear his reasoning behind such behavior.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +5

      Just to save 4 hours... that's pretty much it.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 3 года назад +3

      @@authorwes Probably the reason. Money makes everyone out there do strange, unusual and weird things. Yes, he obviously has a load to deliver, however at what price? His ship, his crew his job being the ships master? As stated, best always to avoid other seafaring vessels at any cost, never to go bear them or approach them and in this case wouldn't it be best to shut the engines to quarter speed until both vessels have safely passed far from each other? Would have been much better to take her further out at sea once the other vessel passed by approprately, once both are safely far away from each other, then resume course and order the engine room to then go full speed ahead.

  • @goodbonezz1289
    @goodbonezz1289 3 года назад +3

    Since the Calloway was on the Mauthe’s starboard, did they not have the right of way?

  • @kenofken9458
    @kenofken9458 2 года назад +1

    They need to bring back the old British Navy tradition of flogging around the fleet for that kind of action!

  • @michellep1965
    @michellep1965 3 года назад +2

    Enjoyed this video even if my jaw did hang down!! UNBELIEVABLE that there were no consequences??!! And for what? To be first at the gas pump? To save $6000? Versus how many lives in jeopardy? I’m stunned to read nothing was done to the aggressive captain. Absolutely incredible. Your video was great and the comments were enjoyable. Joe Hazelwood behavior indeed. I’m thankful no one was injured over his foolishness.

  • @danroose693
    @danroose693 3 года назад +3

    Just a little FYI; No lake boat could cut across that shoaling, after draft probably almost 20’ or more lightship.
    The Calloway entered east outer channel just below Light 10 where it’s 24’ deep or so as seen in the background of the video as was standard back in the day, rather than heading straight for light 1E.
    Also That channel is 1200’ wide and those boats are 74’ wide or less, not uncommon to have three wide in that channel, one up and two down or two up and one down (the loaner taking the middle of the channel).
    Far more dangerous at the turn for Bluewater Bridge when they used to have two way traffic.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      The "Light 10" error is mine- I had scribbled it wrong in my notes that morning. When the mate ran his pen across the chart, he put it across those shallows and said casually "...he's cuttin' here, the shallows..." so that's the way I noted it. Thanks for your input.

  • @MikeAmerica219
    @MikeAmerica219 Месяц назад

    That captain was a fool for putting safety second like he did .
    I hope he got in trouble for that unsafe action .
    Great video and channel 🙏

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Месяц назад

      No action was taken.

    • @MikeAmerica219
      @MikeAmerica219 Месяц назад

      @authorwes ok

    • @MikeAmerica219
      @MikeAmerica219 Месяц назад

      ​@@authorwesI subscribed to your channel I like ships .
      I go to Port of Milwaukee to do things love seeing the cement and Salt ships come in , The Alpena comes there a lot.

  • @B.A.S.Drydock
    @B.A.S.Drydock 3 года назад +14

    I had watched the full video before. A question I had then and still do is, what if anything happened the that crazy captain? Did he get in trouble?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +15

      No action was taken. However a copy of the tape was sent to the Mauthe's owners who said they were going to hang onto it until the next time the Callaway's owners complained about one of their boats.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 3 года назад +4

      @@authorwes Unbelievable! Totally UNBELIEVEABLE!

  • @BSMLC
    @BSMLC 7 месяцев назад

    I really love how in the intro he highlights the AMA and what she did on November 11th '75 she's really overshadowed by the Fitz.

  • @MikeAmerica219
    @MikeAmerica219 Месяц назад

    Wow , i just read this ship ,the Callaway was 767 feet long , and was in a collision in 1955 with another vessel called the B.F Jones and now adays its in Escanaba Michigan for a long lay up .

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  28 дней назад

      Keep in mind, that incident took place when long before the CALLAWAY was lengthened.

  • @mcspikes1
    @mcspikes1 3 года назад +17

    Was there no communication between the two vessels? I would think the radio waves would have been filled with expletives and WTF ‘s. I’m also amazed that no action was taken against the Calloway.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +6

      If you watch my "Trip 29" video it has the actual radio communication between the two captains in real time... it's not what most folks would expect.

  • @lynlewis8606
    @lynlewis8606 3 года назад +4

    J.L. Mauthe: Cason stop were sisters
    Cason J Callaway: I have no sister

  • @firebrand07
    @firebrand07 7 месяцев назад +2

    What became of that captain? Can’t imagine that move went well with anyone on the lakes let alone Interlake.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  7 месяцев назад +1

      The president of Interlake took his copy of the video and kept it for the next time management of the tin-stackers complained about one of the Interlake boats- then he sent that video to them with a note that read something like, "Oh yeah? Look what one of your boats did to us!"

  • @FixAndForget
    @FixAndForget 3 года назад +3

    Wow very close call, certainly reckless action involved. I would add that although one vessel certainly seems to be the "aggressor" in this situation, they were showing your vessel their red sidelight. I would also add your vessel did not take any action to avoid the situation such as changing course or speed, regardless of who would get to the fuel dock first. If a collision had occurred, both vessels would in some way share the damages/fault in court.
    Anyway just the worthless opinion of a deep sea sailor. I spent a summer training on the lakes years ago and have a huge admiration for lakes sailors ship handling abilities. Thanks for sharing this excellent footage with us. Cheers!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +2

      The Mauthe could not have altered course, she was established in the channel.

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 3 года назад +2

      @@authorwes and speed?

    • @garywolfe5906
      @garywolfe5906 3 года назад

      0

    • @racrx7
      @racrx7 3 года назад

      The Mauthe was in the channel. Where did you want it to go?

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 3 года назад

      @@racrx7 possibly altered speed to increase CPA

  • @alexcutionman4569
    @alexcutionman4569 2 дня назад

    I must ask how you managed to snag a sailing on the great lakes? I am envy

  • @rtrThanos
    @rtrThanos 3 года назад +1

    As a fan of aviation that is scared to death of anything naval, I will never cease to be amazed that there isn’t naval traffic control similar to air traffic control. If these were two cargo planes someone would be losing their pilot’s license for months at a minimum, having their license revoked and face fines at the medium, or go to prison at the maximum…unless they died after causing a collision.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Once you are in the Detroit River and St. Clair River system, Sarnia Traffic control acts like ATC. Same goes for the St. Marys River and Soo locks- there Soo Control works much like ATC and the lock master works like approach control by doing sequencing. On the open lake, however, the Captains rule all. The Coast Guard is much like FAA... if no metal was bent and no blood was spilled, they really could care less.

  • @Peter-976
    @Peter-976 3 года назад +5

    Now if that was me, being a hothead, I would have taken a tender over to the Calloway and beat the shit out of that captain while he was refueling. I know I would then be arrested but at least that captain would never, ever, fuck with me again.

  • @michaelh1621
    @michaelh1621 2 года назад

    Great footage….thanks

  • @johnpierce1251
    @johnpierce1251 Год назад

    I subbed cause I’m hooked on Great Lakes shipping

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Год назад

      Get your fixes here... it doesn't cost anything.

  • @donallan6396
    @donallan6396 9 месяцев назад

    Well it wasn't exactly a car chase scene from Bullett but for those on board it must have been alarming. Interesting video.

  • @thescotishtwins9106
    @thescotishtwins9106 2 года назад

    WOW! you got you're self a new subscriber!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      Welcome aboard! Thank you!!

    • @thescotishtwins9106
      @thescotishtwins9106 2 года назад

      @@authorwes No problem i have been on the lakes boat loads of times

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson8008 3 года назад +6

    I remember the original video & am still amazed at the lack of concern for other vessels/safety. Yet after reading your latest book, it pales to the utter act of stupidity by the captain of the Henry B Smith.
    Still I'd bet this kinda thing happens a helluva lot more than we know given the dynamics of business in shipping, not that it makes it any better. Knowing the history of past events the Fitzgerald went thru long before sinking is another indicator.
    I wonder what kind of melee it was way back with so many different vessels in the trade.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +2

      In the early days it was insane. In the 1800s collisions of one sort or another were a daily thing.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 3 года назад +4

      @@authorwes With the technology now at hand which is much more sophisticated than ever before, no excuse for any of this behavior from any seafaring vessels ships master. Common courtesy rules both life on dry land along with the seas, no matter whare you are, what your doing upon this earth.

  • @wrotedog
    @wrotedog Год назад +1

    He saw a green running light on your starboard side. Thought he had right of way

  • @darthdevious
    @darthdevious 2 года назад

    That is crazy, right here in the Maumee Bay heading into the Detroit river! I live just outside of Toledo.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      Toledo has done SO much with their waterfront area, you should be quite proud.

  • @jamesmccarthy5086
    @jamesmccarthy5086 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing! I didn’t understand the name of your ship, what ship was it? And what was the captain of the Calloway excuse for being too close? And love all the models in the background!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  6 месяцев назад +1

      J.L. MAUTHE was the vessel

    • @jamesmccarthy5086
      @jamesmccarthy5086 6 месяцев назад

      @@authorwes thank you. Is she still sailing?

  • @canabox7112
    @canabox7112 3 года назад

    I was told the crew of the Fitz were all drunks. Especially the captain. Likes and subbed btw

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      You were told completely wrong. Booze is very expressly forbidden aboard ship and a crewman under the influence will lose his or her job. It's been that way since the 1950s.

    • @HarryPost-o9c
      @HarryPost-o9c 5 месяцев назад

      @@authorwes I worked on the SS Alpena last year and I can tell you that even though it is a dry ship I know of at least one person who brought booze on board and drank in his room. I also know he was at the very least hungover when reporting to his watch in the engine room.

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 11 месяцев назад

    Me, personally, I have lived in California my whole Life, and have personally never seen the Great Lakes. Although, I really do like the Stories and ships of the Lakes.

  • @watchfullwarrior8180
    @watchfullwarrior8180 2 года назад

    1992, was M Hallin a mate on board??

  • @larry648
    @larry648 3 года назад +5

    That’s nuts! I have lived near and boated the St. Clair River and the Flats area my whole life ( except when I was in the service). I remember the Smith Avery collision. We made a family trip up to see it in PoHo. Did the USS Captain receive any discipline for this?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +5

      Nope- it was treated like someone cutting you off on the interstate.

  • @TheReal_Faxzy
    @TheReal_Faxzy 3 года назад +1

    I love Great Lake ship i sub i like your video and that captain of the Callaway was very reckless maybe next time he needs to map it out

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @TheReal_Faxzy
      @TheReal_Faxzy 3 года назад

      @@authorwes no problem keep the good work up

  • @benjaminallen2370
    @benjaminallen2370 2 года назад

    Amazing video. Such negligent (illegal?) operation on the part of the Callaway; hopefully both caps were on the radio, and the Callaway's actions were reported.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      For the conversation between captains see my video: ruclips.net/video/ennHEa1mVmM/видео.html

  • @gayprepperz6862
    @gayprepperz6862 3 года назад +1

    I'm curious - was this guy reported for his recklessness? If they want to blow off the fact that he endangered another ship, what about cutting across the "shallows''?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Nope- the crew just treated it like someone cutting them off on the freeway.

  • @mcgoo721
    @mcgoo721 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a maritime equivalent to giving the guy a number to call like in aviation?

  • @andrewk2996
    @andrewk2996 3 года назад +1

    Was the other Captain reprimanded do you know? Im curious to know if there were charges brought and great video! Cheers

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      None- it was considered no worse than being cut off on the expressway.

    • @andrewk2996
      @andrewk2996 3 года назад

      @@authorwes wow that doesn't add up at all even when you think he sailed over the rocky area. Thanks for letting me know

  • @WndD_74
    @WndD_74 Год назад

    Why didn’t the Callaway wait and pass on the Detroit River, Lake St Clair or St Clair River? I’ve seen many times ships passing to the left heading north on the St Clair River.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Год назад

      Good question. He did pass 2 other vessels on Lake St. Clair.

  • @northerncaptain855
    @northerncaptain855 3 года назад +1

    I can’t speak definitively about the Lakers, but normally ship Captains will make their intentions known to each other via voice radio communication. It’s fairly routine for the faster ship to overtake the slower ship, conditions permitting. If agreed upon, both Captains have a responsibility to arrange and facilitate this safely. If it is required to accomplish this maneuver safely the slower ship should slow down early and sufficiently enough to avoid a close quarter situation.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      I was tape recording the marine radio channels and there was no prior communications at all.

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 3 года назад

      My thoughts exactly. Both vessels share responsibility.

  • @imxploring
    @imxploring 3 года назад +3

    Any CYA radio transmissions by the ship you were on advising the other ship that they were operating outside the channel and on a collision course?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +3

      See my video "Trip 29" and the unedited radio exchange between the two captains is on there... it didn't go like you'd expect.

  • @eldrenbiddle9358
    @eldrenbiddle9358 2 месяца назад

    Was there any consequence for this reckless seamanship? Was there an Admiralty hearing?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 месяца назад

      There were no consequences

  • @EJRadio
    @EJRadio 6 месяцев назад +1

    Kind of reminds me of the people on the interstate that are desperate to stay in the closed lane so they can get one more car in front of you. Unless you slow down and let them in, meaning you are the responsible one you would both be dead.

  • @johnwurfel2862
    @johnwurfel2862 8 месяцев назад

    How did the Calloway not ground out? She drafts more than 10 feet.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  8 месяцев назад

      The Mauthe's crew were watching on radar and asked the same question.

  • @MLJFireDragon747
    @MLJFireDragon747 2 года назад

    He starts kicking up mud when he straightens out, less than 300 feet away, how thin is the channel? That depth difference from that far apart, 300 feet isn’t really that much to these Lakers, how far were you from the shallows?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      We were right in the shipping lane about 2 or 3 vessel widths from the bank (just a guess on my part)

  • @northernbettygirl
    @northernbettygirl Год назад

    What kind of action was taken upon the, then, captain of the Callaway? I didn't read the book.

  • @leehanna4929
    @leehanna4929 3 года назад +14

    I remember an under way refueling back in my Navy days. I don’t think we were that close to the other ship!

  • @arthurhackman3229
    @arthurhackman3229 3 года назад

    were the coast guard on Belle isle appraised of this ? he could have been fined along with ships owner that is way to close!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Nope. It was considered no worse than being cut off on the freeway

  • @hankschrader149
    @hankschrader149 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video and story Wes! I can't believe the risk he took?! Wow! Maybe he was a little Joe Hazelwood-ish? 🤔

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      I couldn't believe how matter-of-fact and cool our crew remained.

  • @dougcrawford66
    @dougcrawford66 2 года назад

    Crazy . any ramifications?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      None- it was considered the same as someone cutting in front of you on the freeway.

  • @mileagemaker9925
    @mileagemaker9925 3 года назад +3

    I thought road rage only happens on land. That captain should be grounded for doing something that foolish and putting both ships and crews in such danger.! I'm a new subscriber and really enjoy your videos ! 👍👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for subscribing! It was a pretty strange setting for my first day out there, but the crew pretty much shrugged it off. Like being cut off on the highway.

  • @Gdindyvideo
    @Gdindyvideo 3 года назад

    Why don't we hear any radio chatter between the two boats, did the captains not communicate?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      In my video "Trip 29" you'll hear the only words exchanged between the two captains... and it's not what you'd expect.

  • @donb4138
    @donb4138 3 года назад

    What are the rules of the sea. If they were two sailboat the other ship had the of way.

  • @gregoryjones8388
    @gregoryjones8388 7 месяцев назад

    Do you know we’re I can some models of the Great Lake freighters

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  7 месяцев назад

      Not really- I build my own.

  • @rapturebound197
    @rapturebound197 3 года назад +1

    The amount of lawlessness has been increasing in every area of life for the past 40 years..but the last 2 have been off the hook!

  • @user-cc1mq3qo6o
    @user-cc1mq3qo6o Месяц назад

    Is 4 hours worth the expense of a collision? Could your footage have been used in court?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  28 дней назад

      Actually, the president of Interlake got a copy of the video and kept it. So the next time he got a complaint from GLF about one of his boats doing this or that, he sent them the tape in reply.

  • @rodneydavis9230
    @rodneydavis9230 Год назад

    As I am not a mariner, could you explain the proper etiquette or explain who has the right of way?
    I am just assuming that the ship you are on is making a straight approach in to the channel and would have the right of way over the other ship approaching from an angle.
    If I am wrong PLEASE correct me and explain.
    I love learning new things snd don't want to just assume stuff.

  • @lynnclark4208
    @lynnclark4208 8 месяцев назад

    Was anything done to the other captain?

  • @johndeere772002
    @johndeere772002 3 года назад +2

    What’s “check-down”?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +2

      A signal on the telegraph to the engine room to reduce the speed.

  • @willmont8258
    @willmont8258 3 года назад

    Is the depth chart in feet or fathoms?

  • @zacharywalters8139
    @zacharywalters8139 Год назад

    Now would the captain of the Callaway get in trouble for something like that?

  • @NickFortier
    @NickFortier 3 года назад

    Alright I subbed :) pretty cool models!

  • @JavierBonilla78
    @JavierBonilla78 3 года назад

    This is a remarkable video Mr. Oleszewski. If may I ask you a question inside the bridge sounds too quite is it like that or you edited the sound?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      No editing- it was quiet, like a poker game. Those guys are true professionals. If you watch the whole video (my "Trip 29" video) you'll hear the un-edited radio exchange between the captains... it's not what you'd expect.

    • @JavierBonilla78
      @JavierBonilla78 3 года назад

      @@authorwes Hi there again! Thank you for answering my question, what I meant was that in the video I didn't hear loud engine or ship sounds. We have to agree that this particular crew and their captain are professionals or even veterans in the business.

  • @philkipnis740
    @philkipnis740 3 года назад

    So question did the skipper of your ship contact the Coast guard and make a complaint against the other captain's license for reckless seamanship etc and if not why?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Nope- it was considered no worse than getting cut off on the highway.

  • @justingeisenhoff441
    @justingeisenhoff441 3 года назад

    I think you might have the Callaway's course a little off, I doubt they drove over that shoal. It looks more like they rounded detroit river light "10" to meet you. The detroit river lighthouse would have been to your port side shortly after. R "16" is a buoy

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      You are correct, I copied it wrong in my notes when I was aboard and then all these years later used those same notes to make the video. I correct it in my "Trip 29" video, where I also have the actual marine radio exchange between the two captains... which doesn't go the way most folks expect.

  • @bernardcarpenter6949
    @bernardcarpenter6949 3 года назад +3

    He didn't do that just to save himself 4 hours, he also did that because of ego.
    Very cavalier with lives to be playing that game. I'd see that type of thing from time to time at Port Fourchon LA.
    Lack of professionalism coming from that Captain.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      Well said.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 3 года назад

      I should say so. Best to avoid other sea faring vessels when on the Great Lakes like this especally when everybody KNOWS that those lakes can at any time release their fury at anytime at any second.

  • @ronrompen7334
    @ronrompen7334 Год назад

    I've seen that happen a few times during my time on the lakes. Yes, it is nice to get to the dock first, but NEVER at the risk of your ship or another ship.

  • @falcondragonslayer
    @falcondragonslayer 3 года назад

    Why did the Mauthe not send out 5 quick horn blasts? That’s used to signify danger or that one ship doesn’t agree with the other ship’s intentions

  • @petervankauwenbergh3375
    @petervankauwenbergh3375 Месяц назад

    Was the captain reported?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  28 дней назад

      No. It was considered no worse than being cut off on the highway

  • @puttszer
    @puttszer 2 месяца назад

    Does not take 4 hours to fuel at shell. The way she is overtaking, she seems faster than the vessel you were on. Thus if she didn’t over pass now she would have to run below river speed behind your boat, thus taking a much longer delay for the next 7 hours to the fuel dock. Seen vessels many times cut into the river. No biggie. And as we all know running the rivers sometime vessels meet within 60 feet of each other doing 12 mph. Shows the Master of the Callaway knows how his boat handles. I have been Captain on the Callaway, Clarke, Anderson, and Munson. Safety first. You have your own perspective. But from my experience I know those men in the pilot house were being nothing but professionals, or like we always say, “it’s time to get your game face on”.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for your input!

  • @ianross7399
    @ianross7399 Год назад

    I wonder if captains have any punch outs at the fuel dock?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Год назад

      Not in modern times that I know of.

  • @deksea
    @deksea 7 месяцев назад

    I dont understand why there was no apparent attempts made at radio communication between these ships.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  7 месяцев назад +1

      There are radio communications, but they are all very passive. NO ONE will EVER imply or comment on how one captain is operating their vessel. It is all up to the captain alone. It always has been and always will be.

  • @adriannegrillo8394
    @adriannegrillo8394 2 года назад

    I say " Better safe than sorry" He's crazy!!

  • @craigcook1571
    @craigcook1571 9 месяцев назад

    I would refuse to sail under that captain again

  • @jamestanner9601
    @jamestanner9601 2 года назад

    Who was the Chief Engineer in 1992, remember the engine crew???

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад

      The chief didn't want his name mentioned, and he was NOT happy that I was aboard... so NO, I do not recall his name and it is not in my notes.

  • @nolangoldberger2921
    @nolangoldberger2921 3 года назад

    Liked you immediately.
    New subscriber

  • @scottydog62
    @scottydog62 2 года назад

    Was that captain reported to the Coast Guard?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад +1

      Nope... this was considered to be no worse than being cut off on the freeway by another driver.

  • @raywest3834
    @raywest3834 2 года назад

    So, were there no consequences for this reckless captain? Was he reported? The whole thing is filmed after all, it seems his master's licence should be under review?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 года назад +1

      Nope- everyone considered it no worse than being cut off on the highway. You can see the long version and hear the un-edited radio exchange between the two captains in this video...ruclips.net/video/lRKuKh-XeZc/видео.html (it's not what you'd expect)

  • @JeffreyHatch69
    @JeffreyHatch69 3 года назад

    What does the term check down mean?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Signal the engine room to reduce speed.

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
    @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Год назад

    Hopefully the captain on your ship told the Callaway that they were “number 1”

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Год назад

      The full ship-to-ship radio can be heard in this video: ruclips.net/video/lRKuKh-XeZc/видео.html

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 3 года назад

    That's like some dirt track racing on Saturday night. I wonder if the crew on your boat would have backed down without the you being witness.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад +1

      Oh yes- the captain of the Mauthe was pretty much ignoring me and my camera at the time. Afterward he asked for a copy of that tape... which he got and then FedEx'ed it to his company HQ.

  • @Michiganrailfanner23
    @Michiganrailfanner23 2 года назад

    Sorry to tell you this but this might hurt me inside to think about this but, the Mau the is a tug+barge

  • @tylerhoop5312
    @tylerhoop5312 3 года назад

    Man i wish i had a good camera. Tried taking a picture of the Munson off Miller Beach and its just a blurry lump on the horizon with my phone

  • @oceansoul3694
    @oceansoul3694 3 года назад +1

    Does the captain of the Calloway still hold his Captain's license?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      No action was considered. He's probably retired by now... this was 1992.

  • @nothing-b2n
    @nothing-b2n 11 месяцев назад

    Yea

  • @ArizonaMoose
    @ArizonaMoose Год назад

    Did the USCG ever get involved in this incident? Yes, I said incident, as it was a blatant violation of navigational rules of the road. The captain of the Callaway should have been fined and have his license suspended for a year. Not to mention the fines to the company.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Год назад

      It was considered no worse than someone cutting you off on the freeway

  • @ctrongful
    @ctrongful 3 года назад

    Was the Calaway's captain reprimanded for his recklessness?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  3 года назад

      Nope- it was treated as no worse than having someone cut you off on the freeway.

    • @johnshepherd8687
      @johnshepherd8687 2 года назад

      @@authorwes Without a cop around. If Cutter observed this I am sure he was received a visit from the Coast Guard?