Wilderness Warfare: Militarized Cartels Hiding In America's Woods (with John Nores) | Borderland #14
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Today on Borderland, Vince talks with former Game Warden John Nores about how Mexican drug cartels operate in America's forests and public lands.
John served as a Game Warden for the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for more than 25 years. He helped develop and lead the Marijuana Enforcement Team (MET), an elite tactical unit targeting cartel drug operations on California’s public lands and created the agency’s sniper capability.
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The betrayal of the American people by the federal and state governments is absolutely disgusting!
Obama probably gave them the guns.
It will take bands of coordinated citizens to rid ourselves of the threat.
Make no mistake about it, the American people betrayed themselves. They are the ones who put the government into office.
Been that way that since the early 1900's.
@@GiacomoRavioli Cartels in our woods?
I wonder how many people that go missing in our parks are really dead and buried by these type of criminals?
idk id believe most of it truly is people being stupid and getting lost
Great question!
@@docmain999A lot are people who just make dumb decisions, the rest are people who wonder into the wrong place at the wrong time and encounter someone or multipld someones who don't want to be exposed. 0% are people that get abducted by big foot or what ever other woo crap David Paulides peddles.
A lot , look into the emerald triangle up here in northern california or all the missing people in Humboldt county . Weeds a multi million dollar industries now , people are getting killed and “ghosted” over it , wouldn’t be surprised if they grow poppy’s in certain seasons as well. A lot of people go missing every year in our national parks , it gets even weirder the closer you get to the border .
@@docmain999please don’t be that naive!! Most definitely there’s a decent number of individuals that innocently stumble upon these encampments and grow sites and unfortunately and unfortunately when those individuals get seen inside of those encampments and grow areas, they are not allowed to ever walk out of there no matter what promises are made to not say anything!! Those innocent individuals are exterminated whether you want to admit to it or not unfortunately. Yes, there are a few cases where it’s where the hikers ended up getting lost, turned around, injured, etc, but the bigger number is what I have said above and the media snd government refuse to disclose the truth about it and keep it hidden from the American citizens!!
The fact that the cartels are here, makes me feel like we need to bring back deputized posses and militias.
They should have never went away to begin with.
California allows it. I promise land owners in Georgia do not.
Reach out to your state legislators and ask them to repeal your state’s paramilitary ban. It is illegal in virtually all 50 states to assemble with more than 3 people for the purpose of training to fight.
@@freegeorgia4808 Mi...grant mi..li..tias already here.
Until those people become exactly like the cartels. There are enough armed idiots already. If that were to happen there's bound to be a disaster. Now if those people were heavily vetted and trained the right way it may work. But there is a real discipline and intelligence required to gather a group of people with good intentions and proper respect for fellow citizens.
We have HUNDREDS of vets who were impeccably trained for this sort of thing
Yeah but now we're all beer bellied and spending our days watching Charlie Kirk on tiktok.
@@crono3339why in the world would u watch tiny face lol
@@crono3339 i wouldn't be surprised being disillusioned, especially how vets are treated these days by our own government and sold on a bed of lies to fight and die for nothing.
if only you all would do something about it then.
@@crono3339 not really some become hired guns for the cartels there have been a good number of ex-US military hunted down by mexican special forces because they are a danger
Whats bizarre is what should be a war is treated like social/LE issue. They play for keeps and we can't win until we do too.
100% correct. Sounds like a job the states national guards should love to get their hands on
And the feds are with the cartels.
My dads family grew up all over California and my grandpa always told my dad and his siblings be extremely careful in the cali woods not just for the wild animals but the cartels and growers were killing lots of people stumbling upon there operations and that was back in the 70s and 80s
I was living in San Diego and heard about this in the early 80s.
yep and this fool say oh 2000's christ what a waste of a person
Went huckleberry picking on Mt Rainier a few years ago and I was shocked at how many Chinese people were basically living in the mountains picking huckleberries. They had refer trucks and impromptu shelters set up. Talked to one forest ranger and they would roust them every 2 weeks because there's a time limit on how long you can stay in the same place in the national forests. There looked to be almost 100 people in the one group.
This country's like a sleeping child, so innocent of extreme hazards around us
Do something about it.
It's the same thing with mushroom foraging here in logging forests in oregon
@@growinglifeorganic940real typical thing to say coming from someone who probably and literally does nothing "about it"
Smh not sounding good
I have a hard time not thinking that local Politicians are in on it and getting a cut.
Yep, drug money is usually well distributed from local level park rangers, local sheriff’s dept, governors office. it def pays to have friends in high places.
In Oklahoma the politicians (some of them) were involved with Chinese.
Nah, watch too many movies. Maybe CIA or some other agency who is getting something else out of it. I’m not saying politicians aren’t dirty, but this is too shitty for 99% of political class. They deal with the other crap that hurts us, shady developers and crooked businesspeople. These operations are deep in the woods and armed to the teeth. They did not receive any permissions to operate as such. It’s just ignorance on our politicians parts. They are ignorant and worried about less important things. I say fund the departments and provide them all they need to root this out. I don’t want arrests; I want elimination of the threat.
Yup happens in Mexico all the time, makes sense they’d do the same here
Deleted my comment!!!!!!! F off!!!!!!
As an forestry inspector in Mendocino County, a couple of my employees were scared off of a timber harvest inspection by gun-carrying occupants. When LE later raided that site, the guns found were from the Mexican military. Working in the woods in Mendocino Co was always interesting. I was fortunate to only come across abandoned sites but I've seen a lot of sites. I have worked with landowners who were fired on, on their own property. I have a forester friend who was killed. This problem is very real.
the reports of hikers disappearing maybe connected too.
Been watching videos for years on missing campers in national forests and yeah, that was the first thing that popped into my head
It's why you never go hiking or overlanding without being Armed.
The single most dangerous animal out there is the Human you may encounter!!
@@tekiwi very true and human history says so.
@themissingenigma a good channel for a rabbit hole
Maybe in California
Cartels should be treated as terrorists organizations.
But the CIA needs money 😢
Western society functions on keeping its citizens afraid and miserable.
But Democrats say that's Nazism!!! Xenophobia!!! and WACIST!!!! LOL
@@Getsum725Federal Reserve Bank.
You would think. But, Buy...dem needs his 10%
Sinalo makes 500 billion a year, do you think our government wants to loose that?
No, just control it.
Exact what I’ve been saying. With all that money there’s no way you can convince me there aren’t some politicians or local law enforcement in some places in America who aren’t having their pockets lined to look the other way.
Many banks would collapse without drug money.
@@wildcat8598 Guess what? This is what happens when for decades, American right-wing ideology dictates that law enforcement can never do any wrong, law enforcement must not be scrutinized, law enforcement couldn't possibly be corrupt, and that it's absolutely unacceptable to prosecute law enforcement for any wrongdoings. You created your own swamp and the deflection that has been coming in since 2016 is absolutely insane.
@@Nitidus You are not helping anything by blaming one side. Take a step back and look at the problem from all angles, not just with this problem but all problems.
The worst part of this story is we could STOP THIS if we wanted to tomorrow 😢
How?
Bring back God’s Laws!
If we would only vote for the bad orange man, and not allow cheating.
Why aren't YOU stopping it?
Instead we will focus on people like Ruby Ridge/Waco type people.
In Mississippi, it's the cartel growers that come up missing.
@@maidenthe80sla Mexican cuisine??
That is exactly how it goes and will go. Wild hogs have to eat too When your federal government refuses to keep you safe it is your duty to stand up and do what you got to do.
Same here in the woods of Ky. no way that would fly here. Would be at the bottom of an abandoned mine shaft somewhere
@@chadillac365Ah, yes… the old hog evidence disposal system. Extremely efficient.
@@wildcat8598yea ain’t no body giving up that turf😂
This has been going on for a long time. I went into the Marine Corps in 1992. In 1994 I was stationed at Camp Pendleton in a scout sniper platoon and the federal government was considering using us for reconnaissance in national parks to locate growers and grow fields. It never happened.
It's honestly what we need to do - send marines, army, heck even use air force and test out their fancy gadgets & tech to find these grow ops, cartel, gang hideouts. It would be GREAT TRAINING & practice for our military, they would truly be defending our homeland too. I literally can not think of a better "training" opportunity for our military. Also a active military presence would SURELY deter gangs being out there. I think this option makes the most sense because the military is ALREADY well funded & certainly CAPABLE of the task meanwhile it is clear that the federal and local governments are completely overwhelmed with the issue and can not handle it themselves and or can't get the funding or support they need to handle it themselves.
This is proven with the native American tribes, like the Cheyenne & Blackfeet who are suing the federal government for failing to provide the resources to protect them from cartels on the reservation........both tribes (and more I'm sure) have LITERALLY CREATED "VIGILANTE GROUP TASK FORCES" to help handle the problem. And since the reservation has their own soveiengity, these vigilante groups are technically legal or allowed (which are they still technically "vigilantes" at this point? Or just deputized citizens in a way).
We are already paying tax money for the military to train on dummy targets and do exercises. We could literally not spend a dime and cut down on a few extra training exercises and instead have them do some REAL exercises to protect our national & state & public parks.
Since it’s been going on for a long time, we should probably just ignore it.
@@nicklibby3784I'm not so sure all of those rainbow-haired people would defend anything if they end up getting drafted between ages of 18 and 26😂
Another question is how many politicians and others are in the cartels back pocket?
All by design...
Why's the border wide open??
I know , but look over here instead!
According to intelligence reports, it's not that they're necessarily making anything from it, it's that they've been blackmailed or threatened/extorted. They fear for their lives.
Biden family is probably one do to crack use or whatever the drug is
@@joeyride58it’s just plain idiotic what you guys spit in ur echo chamber, do you numb nuts even know how many people border agents progress everyday? open borders??? under biden admin they’ve caught and sent back more illegally immigrating people than during trumps admin, that’s not to say biden doing it better but it’s ridiculous to think the borders are open
Newsom is
I like how the interviewer lets the man talk, you don’t see very often nowadays
and that guy could talk. Perhaps he got into some of the other confiscated stuff.
@@TheMrTslab He’s very passionate about the environment and America 🇺🇸. I do know what you mean though
@@TheMrTslab- my thought too. I've never heard anyone talk that fast for that long.
I LOVE people who have never run a show criticize how interviewers do their job.
Most conservative interviewers are like that. They let the interviewee talk.
They are 100% letting this happen on purpose. If they were concerned about it as much is Israel and Ukraine, Special Forces could have this handled in a week.
The problem is, they see us AS GREET, were not gonna vote the way they want, so they are PURPOSELY DESTROYING AMERICA, all these people coming in ARE OUR REPLACEMENTS!!
They're gonna support them, house them, & then CUT IT COLD, what do you think is gonna happen, MARK MY WORDS, "THIS" is why this is all going on, they knew they lost over the minorities woke up, seen the Democrats are the racist evil ones, not us, so they know THEY HAVE NO CHANCE to win, so want to either make sure we have no election, or leave trump the biggest mess they can, but still, he's THE ONLY ONE I'd trust to even bring us back from something like this, the dude is always 5 steps ahead! 💯
Absolutely. Our federal government has its priorities all backwards. They're sending billions of dollars to foreign countries every year rather than taking care of the US... sure, it's a positive to help support allied countries but that should come secondary to cleaning or own house!
It's bizarre. You see this being allowed to happen, you see them literally PAYING to bring 45 MILLION illegals into the country- 70% of which are single military aged males.. NOT families. You see them 1000% engaged in foreign countries at the direct exclusion of America and American issues. What tf is going on? We- the US citizens are flat out under direct and deliberate attack- facilitated by those who were meant to serve we the people.
On purpose huh?
Your evidence of this beyond your emotion is……
@@digitalperson108keyboard warrior
Fun fact: the pesticides discussed are produced by multi national food corp Bayer, and are used on most crops in Mexico. The EPA is the government agency that has banned applications in the US.
Okay, I'll say that's probably a good thing, but what about the couple hundred other ingredients that the FDA allows food producers to put in their product? These things are banning other countries. Some countries won't even buy our pork. Too many things in the feed and such that should not be.
And the republicans and Republican dominated SCOTUS are foolishly systematically weakening regulators like the EPA.
And the republicans and Republican dominated SCOTUS are foolishly systematically weakening regulators like the EPA.
And we get our AvOcAdOs FroM MexiCo
I actually respect cartels LESS because they are so clever and hard working. That means they could easily live good, productive lives. Instead, they actively choose to destroy the lives of people around them.
Same thing the Americans do. XD Enjoy your own 20th century medicine. Fix your dollars back to gold if your so confident.
Legalize all of the snow and brown for your College kids on spring break can party "hard". Gross culture.
@@joefer5360But it’s not gross that the cartels oppress your people and you do nothing about it and your children continue to join these people because they in some way idolize them and you do nothing about it? So it’s not pathetic that you have a country so rich in natural resources yet you are still in extreme poverty and have one of the highest murder rates on the planet? It’s not disgusting that mexico has one of the highest rates of femicide on the planet?
Also the Peso is backed by depleting Oil reserves, not any precious metals.
@@joefer5360those drugs aren’t legal anywhere in america lol
Many of the cartel members are ex-military oath-breakers. What a shame.
My sister worked marijuana reconnaissance in the national Forest in ca. She tell me about hikers coming up on booby traps where they get fish hooks in their face and how the land was destroyed. People from South America would be dropped off to take care of these grow farms and they'd have some flour tortillas and this and that but not enough food so they were poaching endangered species to live down there cuz they were just dropped off in the forest. Joy was telling me this back in 2000, so I've known about it. Definitely a public safety and an environmental issue.
Just horrible. God please help America 🇺🇸 in Jesus name.
Yep legalize it all everywhere...money disappears the motivation disappears the violent crime disappears.
Issue is understatement.
Unfortunately oregon has legalized it all and now theyre backpeddling like crazy because of the drugs and crime.@mrmotofy
I had very little understanding of how widespread and how dangerous this infiltration is, and how international crime is gripping our public lands like eagle claws. John Nores, thank you. You are an outstanding speaker, building indisputable credibility and keeping politics 100% out of your presentation. I would have resisted and rejected this info if it had been a right-left pitch... I have a large network of military friends, lots of SpecWar active and vets... I will send this to everyone. Subscribed.
I lost my Baby Girl / Love of my life(only girl) to fentynal 2 years back 💔. My life will never be the same!! Fact!!😞 I appreciate all the energy and knowledge this video puts out there to who receives it! I'm all in for whatever needs to be done to fight for this cause. God Bless America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 and all the folks that have already lost a child do to this horrible entity.😞 I pray for you all 😞🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Bless you.
Want to take control of drugs out of drug cartels ? Legalize and regulate. Drugs are here to stay and with billions of dollars and countless amount of time spent on the war on drugs, there is no results to show as drugs have only gotten more plentiful and less expensive and stronger. Drugs are not going anywhere. I too lost a family member because of drugs but I int delusional about the reality of the fact that they aren't going anywhere. More of the same ''war on drugs'' will not change anything. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Baby Girl was a pill popping coed college toss around gal.
Troy, my sincere condolences 😢. Death upon our loved ones hit low n written off as stuff happens. Just another day for many LE agencies. We Americans need to take things into our own hands. Our government does nothing with cartels n their payoffs towards LE. We have so much corruption.
I was on Fentanyl patches for 5yrs n destroyed my entire life. Legally prescribed for spinal injuries. Got a few holes in my sails. If I could Troy, I'd give my life in exchange for your lost. Noone should have to experience these drug cartels killing their family members. No parent should suffer such a loss in their family such as yours n many others. May Jesus heal your heart n soul in every way.
I had the same problem in Los Angeles High Desert. 640 acres, 2010. I did a 2am Falluja RAIN of 308 M62 TRACERS from 600 yards away. 100 rounds of TRACER into the tents and GREEN houses...(2drums from my PTR91) they left and abandoned their tents and green houses..... Lake City NATO 308 M62 Tracers bouncing around at night will scare most people away....
Sounds wild.. bring friends next time mate
Hell ya
the insecticide drums spilling and contaminating though
@@firstname-qq3xpMurica
You're doing God's work.
I'm from Los Gatos. You can hide a lot up in those hills, as the redwood trees create an almost impenetrable canopy from airborne surveillance. Growing up in the Santa Cruz mountains, there were always pot growers out in a few places, and everyone knew it, BUT these were local guys. We didn't have, or didn't know of any cartel stuff going on back then. I will say, when I was a kid (late 90's-2000's) there were still enough hardcore "mountain folk" up there that would NOT have put up with this stuff, especially from the old timer type men that had been there for generations. Unfortunately most of those people have either died or have sold off thier family's land due to the high cost of living and expansionary nature of the tech crowd constantly wanting to buy their real estate. Its an amazing place, and most if it is still completely wild and natural. Hopefully we can figure this problem out.
The guy who runs Missing 411 about all the disappearances in forests never mentions this as a possibility and won't respond to questions about it. Makes it all seem like woo incidents. Strange.
Theres bigfoots that take folks but I will admit the organized plundering is peak clownworld.
Which is strange since he was a cop.
Maybe he's in on it.
A leaked CIA document regarding a military operation called "Highjump" actually lends credence to the "woo" as you put.
According to the document, National Parks are hunting grounds. Grey's have permission to abduct people in return for technologies and have had said permission since the early '50s, when the technology boom started. I.e. Microchips, Lasers, etc.
The leak itself could just be a psy-op though so who knows 🤙 But I put a lot of faith in the word of Admiral Bird, and his flight beyond the ice wall. Most decorated pilot in history.
Scion?
In 1992 I was working in the logging industry between college and we ran into multiple grows out by Feather Falls in California. They’ve been doing this for decades. I was fortunate to be able to map it out for the authorities and fly in and destroy the grows. Great experience
The whole crew hated you 🤣 They were all planning on grabbing a ton of plants at night but they were like F*CK Mike gotdam snitched already 🤬
@@PerspectivePossibilitiesNah get shot taking them plants . Got lost in off limits area and in the nite a guy was harvesting a grow 100 yard away an another guy about 50 yards on a different grow. I spoke with one guy but he could not see me . I asked how he got this far since the bridge was out. He told me the route so I was appreciative since I was lost. That night also a bear stole everything I had 20 feet up in a tree branch. 14 miles to walk out. But you gotta be careful who is also out there
Oh. So you're a self admited narc of Cartel resources? And you're on a public forum outing yourself? Did your parents have any children who survived childbirth?
@@tmayorca8770 right , same as MOONSHINEING in the 20`s !
@@EDD519 yup. Funny thing I was not lost at that time actually. I'd found my way back on the trail but I needed to find a safer way to get around the bridge. He told me to go 1/4 mile downriver and cross over logs.
I have never heard of this happening. Thank you for bringing it to people. Anybody that cares for our environment and country should hear this.
Wow, I am a Vet. from the 80's and 90's . You all are the front line in our backyard! Go get them.
I have listened to a pod cast on Narcofornia. That was the first time I had heard this. I travel alone a lot up and down interstate 5 and Hwy 97 into Oregon. I started really looking hard at who I see at rest stops and small towns like Doris California. What I see scares the crap out of me. The Trinity national forest in Trinity County has like 5 deputies and is massive. These guys are even stealing water from farmers and ranchers. I dont go out in the hay ranch that we own that I am not armed. Who knew I would have to have my head on a swivel and a firearm within reach out there. I moved up there from the gang infested east San Fernando valley. This is wild land and it needs protected.
You're spot on. This adds perspective, especially for situations like in Nogales, Arizona, where the rancher shot at an illegal on their land and was taken to court by the state.
@JasonRing I know that one blew my mind. Some days, I feel like the "that could never happen " is our everyday.
@@chrisannegresham4178 It's never been more clear to me that the solution to so many issues that we face as a nation will not and can not be solved by the federal government and that the power, responsibility, and authority of deterring and preventing criminal illegal aliens from entering the nation, and using law enforcement to arrest and deport them, should rest with the states who border other nations.
So much of the nation's attention is focused on national and federal elections and for as important as they are, it's a distraction. As our nation is a constitutional federal democratic republic, everything starts with the voter and local elections and works its way up from there.
Every elected local official will impact your life every single day and there is no such thing as a "minor" or "insignificant" local official.
Whether it's criminal illegal aliens on rancher's land in Arizona or the cartel in California, the local areas and state should ultimately be held responsible for the integrity of and enforcing laws on its borders. The only way that improves is through the power of the voters in electing officials who will represent, serve, and protect the citizens.
Ultimately, it's "we the people" who have failed our local community, state, and nation and only "we the people" have the power and responsibility to save it.
@@ads06.1 Shit he didn't shoot at, he shot, lol. Judge called a mistrial, hopefully the prosecutors leave it alone.
Stop the goffyness .... This is happening is all states you are so ignorant 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the Chinese send the proceeds back to their homeland
We Will take OUR land back:.
Mexicans too.
@@sergiorifa8673your ancestors were an example history is going to repeat itself 🪳🗑️🪳🗑️🪳🗑️
@@sergiorifa8673you're just too bitter that you lost the land that was never yours in the first place fair and square to a real war 🪳🗑️
Who then uses that money to purchase land in the US
We need to go hands on with the cartels immediately
There's drugs in every neighborhood! Get to work.
I disagree. The Cartels are in fact some of the current people hunting down Globalist pedos because the Globalists failed to pay the Cartels for years now and the Cartels recently learned the Globalists do not control the digital world financial system so the Cartels understand they don't need to do business with the Globalists and their slavery Govt. The world and Multiverse is not what we've all been misled to assume or believe.
First of all, weed is legal. Yes they are doing damage. But we don't need to further militarize the police. They have enough toys. Use the military. This is what they do. A seal team would not have allowed 30 to escape and would have at least captured one of them. Won't take long for them to run the supply up until the stuff is worthless.
@@jimmyhunt9081 We are trying but yall keep voting for open borders.
@@RoyalWulffDry 🤣 who voted for open boarders!??🤣🤣
This could account for the missing hikers who may have stumbled upon them.
Thank you for your service. Both of you guys are great. Great video.
I had no idea the situation was this bad. Thank you for having John on this podcast.
Thank you so much for this interview. Knowledge is power....Never underestimate the true American spirit. 🇺🇲⚖️🇺🇲⚖️🇺🇲🕊
Mid '80's, Southern Oregon, I was part of a "Student panel" that talked about this !!
Thru' the decades hunters have had "issues" in our hunting spots..."State of Jefferson" area.
Bro, why do you use "quotation marks" like that?
I wish we could get more people who want the State Of Jefferson.
We Will take OUR land back:.
@@slappy8941 To "annoy" you.
@@sergiorifa8673 Who's land do you believe it belongs to ?
Go to Costco or Sam's club and you'll see these Cartel members and the Chinese mafia members filling up hand carts with enough supplies for a 5-10 man grow crews for however long. They'll buy 30-40 dozen eggs, 20 or more cases of top ramen, a few dozen cases of sports drink mix or Gatorade, TP, tooth brushes, tooth paste,... They always stick to those easy basic items. The reason I know this is through personal observation and people I know who work at these big box stores. If you want to find these crews, go where they buy their basic needs supplies...
"oPeN bOrDeRs iS gUd fOr mUh eCoNoMy"
💩🐮
@@humbleopinion2722been going on for 30 years....borders arent open....quit letting Fox and Newsmax do your thinking for you and have a look for yourself. I just got back from multiple wilderness areas in borderland Arizona, the border is the same as always in wild country
Good for the places i buy my ammo from!@@humbleopinion2722
Brilliant. And put a GPS tracker on their care follow their patterns.
Hero interviewing a hero.
Glad someone is taking about this. Spent years in the northwest forests. There's a war going on out there
Northwest where? Washington?
@johnadams8902 Oregon, that place is was a mess. Don't know how it is now. It was like a mix between Fallout and the Road Warrior. It got pretty nutz
@@Steve-bw4oh
thanks for the response and information.
when people are fed up they will go hunting for deer
@cardboardboxification you'd better be strapped cause they're using military equipment and tactics. Not to mention, local and federal law enforcement protects them.
We the people of America need to stop playing the nice guy and start protecting our country from these vermin
and start at the top with our corrupt government first.
The atf to busy jackbooting us ignoring all these terrible things
If citizens were not held down on so many laws I bet they would not be out there in the woods now.
If the drug laws hadn't been so ridiculous the past 50 years the cartels wouldn't have any reason to exist.
If the cops were not oathbreaker assholes who see us as the enemy, things would be better.
LARPing cops....
This type of activity has been active in the bay area mountains for decades. If you move north toward Healdsburg, Eureka, its even worse.
Yeppers, "State of Jefferson" area...since the early '80's at least !!
Emerald Triangle been going on for decades.
My uncle lived on the Klamath River near Happy Camp. Last time I was there in the 90's it was a little scary! 😮
Locals need to take their land back😮😮
@@rjay7019 Local saying around those parts... Take/Took a trip down the river.
you know what, ill check in here.
ive been a fentanyl addict for approximately 5 years.
as someone from that side of this tragic coin i am glad you fellas are talking about the why are we consuming sooo many drugs - whats going on in our families in our culture our social lives etc etc. a breath of fresh air that these things are being talked about by those you honestly dont really expect to hear it from.
subbed. much love.
May God cleanse you and straighten you to be his tongue.
John Norres certainly brought back vivid memories of a similar situation we had/have here in Region 4. I was working with an engine crew which routinely patrolled dispersed campsites and cleaned latrines at which took us to every corner of the forest. The days following the 4th of July we would make our way up side canyons and hike up to a high promontory to glass the surroundings, look and sniff for smoke. one of the crew would stay at the engine, another would be on a ridge while the third would go to the destination. (Radio relay when reception was crappy and no.line of sight. We spotted unnatural sights where the Aspen treeline roughly merged with the Gambel Oak . Where the Oak was were spots that were too "green" for the time of year. So we found a nursery just as described right to the camouflage and irrigation. Growers were using black HDPE pipe. The grow plots were broken down into 20 scattered subplots with 20 to 30 plants each. This was 1995.
Were you near the Toyabe Natl. Forest?
The last time war was brought to our backyard 1775, we cleaned the yard by having interested, intelligent, wise, willing, passionate, tactical and technically competent leadership.
Wasn’t 1942 the last time war was brought to our backyard? Or did you forget about Japan occupying American land?
So we have no chance?
Psst, you forgot the war if 1812, the Civil War, American Mexican War, Indian Wars, and that time Japan invaded and occupied some islands off the Alaskan Coast in WWII. The revolution was hardly "ghe last time War aas brought to our back yard".
Battle of Blair mountain, war on drugs.
Gavin is the best California has ever had
Ive been in recovery for 14 years and have been a drug counselor as well. I have lost 90% of the people i councild and ran with or went to school with. This fight is definitely personal to me. I would give my life to change it!
Enjoy getting deleted for your personal crusade. These people are fighting to earn a very big salary as crazy as it sounds to you. Soldiers do not care for the feeling of sheep. Especially if those sheep are complicit with their shepherds who are wolves.
You'd be considered a loony bin if you considered this notion and agenda with Alcohol.
not a good counselor then. only reason these guys are here is because the government won't legalize the lords plant. good try though
@@voodoofire34 People like you hurt legalization efforts more than you could ever know by making cannabis users look asocial and tardy.
@@voodoofire34 Not cool dude
Prior Horse Patrol Instructor USBP agent from Ajo Station. Im glad I found this channel and video.
Glad to see this stuff finally getting out there.
Yes yes get in touch with Tina Griffin Counter Culture Mon get on her show!!!!!
Our government needs an overhaul and they need to deputize minutemen across our nation to weed out this curruption and invasion
This stuff goes on even in Kansas. When you find an abandoned grow site it becomes apparent from the trash they leave they weren’t American.
I pray for your safety. ALL OF YOU! ❤
I have Been too! I wonder why they decided to Not bring SAT phone or something?
Protecting our kids and fish and forests, this guy is a real one.
Thank you both for all you do! May the Lord watch over you and protect you. Keep @ it brothers!
“Someone is stealing that water” out in the wilderness is crazy.
Every drop of Water in the United States is owned by someone other than you. Even the rain that hits your roof belongs to someone else. Just start collecting your rain water and put up a few solar panels and see how long it takes before someone from the town will want to know what was going on. In some states you can go to jail for having a windmill.
What a storyteller!! Had me on the edge of my seat. First beer is on me brother 🤝🏿
This is crazy. I've hiked Henry Coe for years. Up and down Carmel Valley, Kings Canyon and went to school in Los Gatos Hills. There are growers in the back side of Watsonville/Mt Madonna area. People are clueless. Lots of buddies with the SCSO as well. I'm telling you, you gotta keep your head on a swivel. 👊🏽
You got to Loma/CTE Middle School? When I was there, the Mt. Madonna guys were all locals.
This caught my attention immediately. I live in a small, extremely wooded mountain area in the middle of nowhere Alabama.
I've recently started hearing loads, and loads of gunfire, loud hard felt explosions possibly dynamite, or grenades. It also happens late at night, which is definitely against the naturel order of things here. We locals are extremely careful, and respect the peace of our neighbors. There is no noise ordinance here, but we stop shooting before dark. I'll checkmark this, and check in down the road...
Isis camps all out there too still
If you see something. Say something.
They say.
@@Thezachofalltrades1 There are no ISIS camps in the US. This is plain fear mongering or idiotic ignorance.
@@alexanderfolds3040 If you see something you probably won't live to say something.
I live in rural Kentucky, and it's local Americans buying up land and shooting tons of guns all the time disturbing the peace. I highly doubt it's isis or cartels setting up in your local redneck woods haha.
Sorry but our government is well aware of what’s going on and I’d be very surprised if they’re not a part of that business
BIDEN IN PARTICULAR BOTH JOE AND HIS SON OR MAYBE HIS WHOLE FAM DAMNLY.
Ollie North and Reagan are proud to have assisted.
@@joefer5360 I’m sure. Obama (operation fast & furious)
@@kmiller1341 For sure. Gotta give team blue their props too.
@@joefer5360 yep. The ole uniparty
'Belt & Road' through Darien Gap paving a comfortable
journey..silver bullets and stakes . Heart breaks for USA. Thanks for Service ( Australia) Vigilance for missing people in National Parks.
Hate that this is going on in our country ruining these beautiful areas.
2004?!?!? First of all, I’ve been a backpacker, hunter, fisherman, survivalist, etc most of my life. I’m no operator, but I can handle myself well. My bushcraft/survival skills are above average. I’m an excellent tracker (not trying to bump myself up, I’ve been told that by the two Sheriffs Deputies, one ex-Ranger and an ex-Marine with SERE training, who tried to evade me during a tracking training )No “formal training” until I got into SAR in 2009, and when I got into that I started to train them in some tracking survival skills, as well as austere field medicine/first aid. I hunt a zone in the Central Valley sierras. It’s 1994. At this point I’ve fished, hiked and backpacked this area since a was kid. Like a little kid. I’m 24 at the time. Ok…we’re truck scouting an area off the western ridge of this canyon, and I see a small rock formation on the side of this road. So I pull off and check it. It’s a small trail that leads down to upper fork of the Kings that feeds the much larger middle fork. It is a primarily south/east facing face. I told my buddy I was gonna walk it. He was gonna finish his “breakfast “ and meet me at the bottom. Now I knew, and had heard stories about grows in the National Parks that border this zone, heard stories of these guys stopping fishermen or hunters and taking their licenses and telling them ‘now we know where you live’ kinda shit, and although it’s in the back of my head, it’s not the first thing on my mind. I’m walking down, rifle in hand (always had a handgun on me), and I’m noticing new boot prints. I come around a small bend and there’s a little Laotian/Hmong guy sitting on a fallen tree with a sawed off 12g shotgun. I surprised him as much as he surprised me. I saw his grip tighten on the gun stock, I started to point mine more towards him, and from behind I hear a snap, then a “what the f$@k?” and my buddy came up from behind with his 30/30 coming up. It was really weird. Scary. A rush, and not really in a good way. We all kinda looked at each other. I kinda waved my hand low and we just left. I figured he was waiting for a drop (rock formation as a marker) and we were not who he expected. Let the local game warden know. A year later…HUGE grow was found in that exact spot. Fast forward 5 yrs later, on another ridge, this one skirting the north side of the Middle Fork of the Kings, south facing. I had started down this trail. I’m always checking for prints, wires, etc. And after the last go round I’m pretty much always in a heightened state when I’m up there…and honestly, it pisses me off these a$$holes are f$@king up MY sierras. As I’m going I look up just in time to miss a fish hook at my eye level. This is NOT uncommon. Especially in the less traveled areas, which I prefer to hunt. Even though I’ve seen this first hand, it still took me off a bit when we went through specialized training on this stuff in SAR. I generally hunt alone. After the couple of incidents, and these were just two, I keep a bag back in my truck with an extensive first aid kit, spare mags for the pistol I carry, as well as a spare pistol with high capacity mags, 3 military grade smoke grenades, and an AR500 plate carrier (able to stop a rifle round up to .308), with the extra coating. I’m not giving up MY sierras. I’m not giving up MY right to be in MY woods. And I’ll be god dammed if they’re going to intimidate me out of my life.
Hey I can't help but ask you this, hopefully I hear back. LOL. I have spent alot of time in the National Forests backpacking. I have spent even more time in the woods hunting, exploring, tracking. Currently I live in the woods. I have noticed there have been times when all around me got completely, eerily silent. There was one time when I was in the woods and something was upon me and I just bolted and got the hell out of there very fast. Never have I seen any sign of a Dogman, or a Bigfoot track. My crazy mother-in-law saw Bigfoot. I've seen wolf and bear. I can stalk up on a buck. So to me these paranormal creatures are just tales. Have you ever seen , noticed anything?
And actually had another weird one up the way from that one at the Inyo border by the Black Rock ranger station, kinda north and west of Kennedy Meadows. At that point it had been burnt down. But heard some vocalizations that I’ve never heard before, and I’ve heard all of the weird stuff foxes and coyotes can do, but it definitely put a chill down my spine. Slept with my Cattleman .45 LC under my pillow that night.
@@visamedic Wow okay. Well I am not looking to experiencing anything like that. LOL. Thanks for responding.
@@visamedica Sasquatch yodel?
@@bigthunder7002 No idea. Didn’t really want to find out.
California, Montana, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc .. they Cartels are everywhere.
Wait until the outsourcing to Arabs and Africans start. These cartels aren't stupid.
Safe houses for drug distribution in Milwaukee or Minneapolis yes, grow operations in the remote forests of northern Minnesota or the upper peninsula? Nah.
@@agricola The crops would die from the cold. Local warehouse operations cost more than moving it from established warehouse operations.
We need more than a new dam, we need to allow private citizen's to stand their ground without fear of prosecution by their own government who claims to be against all this shit. As someone who spent 25 year's in the cannabis industry of Humboldt County I will say that many consider law enforcement to be working against locals in favor of the cartels who compared to locals seem to very rarely be raided or pursued. If anything, the cartels almost seem to be protected and operate with damn near impunity. Their operations are massive in comparison to what locals do, they can be clearly seen on Google Maps, yet they are almost never busted. 🤷🏻♂️
This is f'd up. I'm sure it's true that they can be clearly seen on Google maps. They can be quite brazen. I can tell by just the attitude on the streets in the big city just watching the world around me. It's ridiculous. ("Ridiculous" sooms to be an end of the line word for me. Otherwise I am speechless.) ....
Your question has a simple answer:
LE is getting a cut, it is nothing new.
@@Kosher_Slider I don't recall asking any questions, but your "answer" is pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. Thnx 🙄
@@Kosher_Slider so are your overlords supporting the MID. good try though. way to show us you just support the latest trend.
@@voodoofire34 I’m Jewish bro, I’ve always supported Israel. I’m saving to immigrate there next year. Unfortunately where I live now, I feel like a pilgrim in an unholy land.
Thanks for hosting the Lt. I have heard his work for years. Your questions were quit on point. Bless you brothers for your work. Çheck 6!
Thank y'all for your service.Pray God be with y'all .
I am a member of the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, have buddies up on the Crow, Rocky Boy, Blackfeet and Flathead reservations, and know about these problems, and know about the trafficking issues, why are the Reservations shutting down and blocking folks from entering to handling the situation. Are they paying off the elders and tribal police. It is sad they are letting these things take hold
Same in New Mexico. My Native friends tell me all the time about children being taken by white vans. The elders do nothing. You'll get a ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit in a heartbeat though.
That's three of us that are pissed off!Friggen disgusting how law works at times!And unless your an aspiring official,it doesn't seem to count or work for us equally,basically the entire justice system is flawed
@@BBEEAATTNNGGUU who is behind it? the cartel?
It’s working all the way up through Montana, the amount of native children trafficked is sickening!
Do you know of Hwy 16 in British Columbia aka Highway of Tears? Haida buddies told me the truth that Hell's Angels are abducting and trafficking young Native girls/women on that highway. When I try to teach Canadians this truth, I'm shut down and called all sorts of names because most Canadians unfortunately have their heads buried deep in the sand and have already drunk the marxist Kool-Aid!
Come check out the desert in Northern Arizona. The sheriffs know & participate while homeowners are kicked off their own land. Its still the Wild West out here
I doubt it would be happening if ( Gov) Keri Lake was leading your state. 🇺🇲
Arizona is nothing but a corrupt pig-land of oathbreakers. Look into how many chiefs of police and sheriffs are criminals.
I worked in the forests of Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity county crushing rock for logging roads for 10 years. That was always the last thing we wanted to run into.
I’m retired USBP and was involved in these operations in north central Washington state. Worked in cooperation with state police, county sheriff, DEA, US forest service. Pretty wild!
Listening to this makes me think of a line from Sicario - Day of the Soldado: an agent says to his superior, "This is why nothing ever changes here!" She replies, "You really think CHANGE is the object here?" Or something close to that.
Someone is profiting from all this so they're actually protecting it with a SHOW of force occasionally to look like they're "doing something about it". And it seems thst NO ONE is willing to take the necessary action in the necessary strength to de- incentivize the activity. SMH
Gov is the biggest profiteer from it all. The DEA is the biggest dealer network. Then the whole LEO, courts to the prison industry is profiting from it. They don't want it gone at the highest levels.
In Arkansas a town over, a guy got his head cut off by the cartel. They just walked right in his house , grabbed him and started cutting. No questions , no anything.
where in Arkansas was this? I live in Montgomery county, we ain't puting up with them out here, getting my ar 15 out and stainless 1911 ten mm on my desk. I know there are a lot of shootings at places like Little Rock and Memphis. Dang it's getting bad for sure.
Where?
Where?
Worked for DOJ back in the mid 90's. The narc units from Riverside and San Berdoo were pulling out grows all under Arrellano-Felix and Sinaloa control. Game wardens weren't involved, unless they stumbled onto a grow and then would notify LE. Seen numerous game wardens shows dating back a decade and they are dealing with wildlife issues. Talked to a warden in Newport Beach who stated the judges don't hardly look at poaching cases or they give low sentences. When the guest is talking about all the poisons the cartels were putting in the water, he found out that the TF wasn't created for the damage to the forest, even though the California Governor's always lied about how much they care about the environment, that's all they were interested in doing, that's what we learned at DOJ.
Doesn't surprise me , back in 2006 right in the same hills you're speaking of (this was oniel park/ Saddleback area) there was a grow of 26k plants!!! I watched it get raided 😂the plants were 20 ft tall , they blamed it on Hondurans
"There are cartels in the middle of America"
Yeah, I've known about that since I was a kid back in the early to mid 90's.
Fantastic show, my sheriff in Osage County, MO has been giving similar classes. In fact, he realizes that the citizen base of the county will be necessary to keep the peace and defend themselves. You might find him a good interview, if interested, let me know!
We ALWAYS had a Domestic Enemy problem which works or allows these foreign groups
It's called Government ,
Cartels join our military to be paid for the education. When they do their 4 years they go back to serve there cartels. Happens all the time
They join the Mexican army and get trained by Americans.
Sad but true.
We've seen cartel grows throughout NorCal for decades when out deer hunting it's nothing new. 😢
I don't know how I came across this channel, but I'm glad I did. I had no idea this was going on. Great video, thank you.
Eye opening and a different side that has never been exposed… you guys are on to something big that will change lives.
Great job on the interview Rocco. John is one of the best interviews I’ve listened to.
Biggest hard Narco bust I ever been involved with was at sea and we used the game wardens authority to make it happen and they have a ton. Those dudes are vital to any anti Narco task Force and I enjoyed the 5 yrs shoulder to shoulder with them.
And we went over a lot of this in our SAR training. We were told and shown slides of HUGE busts. I asked what it took, to clean all that up. The answer was that 99.9 of these aren’t. Period. These guys will move from bust site to bust site, in a lot of cases, just resetting up what was taken down. And they’re able to grow this stuff above tree line now. So you’re talking 10,000’ +. There had been a meth lab somewhere on the Merced, east of Yosemite. They had used an old cabin site off a one, bust after bust for years. Someone went in and broke down the old wood stove, they came back. Then a fire finally took the old cabin out and that stopped it. Can you even begin to imagine what was flowing through Yosemite?!? The only real clean up is with private groups, I know our SAR group had hiked out a bunch of stuff and flew some out on netting when we had a guy who’d volunteer his little bird for searches and whatnot. They just will not give them the money or resources to clean these up, and a lot of these are in SNP and KNP. They’re really killing our mountains.
It's not just boarder states. It's across the entire country. Alot of missing people (411 cases) will never be found because that hiker saw something and was burned to nothing, remains tossed in a soda can and recycled. It's not paranormal and letting people think something paranormal is out there when its actually drug labs sends paranormal enthusiasts to their death.
At one point in Pennsylvania a ranger said "are you alone" I said yeah, he said "there's no guy with you" I said No, He said "alright listen, you're ok but you're going to want to move closer to designed camping spots before dark or get friends to join you" after a talk he said "mam it has nothing to do with animals" ..... I wont say whats next.
Came home and called my friend whos a detective in Buffalo NY and said "alright I've literally been stalked out of 3 forests in NY, and this is the 2nd time a ranger feared my safety in PA, Im finding needles in the forest of W.V. and people are missing further North and I'm starting to think it's not an accident nor UFOs or Bigfoot.
He said corruption. Until someone thats not a hooker or homeless ends up dead or missing it's being ignored. Basically be far enough in the forest that a vehicle can't travel, and avoid daytime recreation events and you can commit your crimes. According to him its why I was Basically intimidated out of an area before I ever left my car, to avoid being a missing person (which in all honesty I was grateful to the thugs for).
To other single campers .... if you have trucks following you, watching you, high beaming you .... turn around as soon as the road is big enough to do so, and leave, they'll follow you to the nearest main road and then leave you alone... take it as a warning ⚠️ that you don't want to go any further!!!
Chinese,and oriental origin folks are all over in the woods here in southern Oregon! They grow weed, they take all our mushrooms….. ridiculous!!!!!
When I visit my hometown in Josephine County, I feel like a foreigner and so do all the locals
In Maine it's the Chinese Triads who are operating the illegal grows.
It's common knowledge and the govt. has been talking tuff but in reality there isn't much being done about it.
Highest bail I've seen was $1500...
Proceeds estimated at 4 billion per anum.
The government is a neutered entity
I've had to clean up cartel grows so the domestic land owner would not get hit with double the fines for the cartel trespass growing on his property. I'm a grower myself, I don't need to use the mentioned chemicals and can instead run my whole crop with organic amendments and pest management routines. I wish I had more protections from law enforcement as a domestic USA born grower using these much more sustainable practices.
If they would finally just end the war on drugs that would be a good first step.
But u don’t they will kick ur door way before they kick a cartel door.
@@KWAHU93 trying to put this together what u mean I think I'm missing a word here.
@@HomesteadFreddy but the fact is they kick ppl like ur door before cartel.
Law enforcement hates you for being a grower of a plant they still want to eradicate
Spent three years in LA in the early 90s and word even back then was stay out of the backwoods wilderness areas. I was on a picnic with my family around lake Isabella and spoke briefly with a deputy there. He was insistent that i keep my family out of the backwoods areas.
It would be one hell of a fight between the 2A community and cartels in the US
Most are all talk
I have a comrade that I served with back in the early 80's his sons are DNR in Maryland, hope they are keeping situational awareness and not just poachers.
You know, I've been hearing stories for 30 years about transient marijuana growers using our forests. I now wonder how many of the 411 missing are their victims?
Yet the wonderful American politicians let this happen. Been going on for 30 years plus already
I worked in the forests of California, Oregon and Washington during the period of 1982-2018. I saw this in just sbout every US forest in every state. Black plastic rolls, HDPE pipe, steel rods, traps, trip lines. Its everywhere.
I did the same, sjsu, biology- fisheries and wildlife, then calpoly for forestry. Spent a total of 35 years in the woods. Been retired 5 years, i won't go into the woods. It's too dangerous.
I been hearing the cartels are in Maine and up north now too. Cali is just where they started at
God bless you guys keep praying too and have faith more are for this than against much respect
I feel like this kind of stuff needs to be put out to the American people. I would say barely 1% of Americans know this information and it needs to be the center of attention because this is becoming a national security threat letting all these criminals in and operating on US soil.
Twilight in America by Martin Mawyer 2012, this book talks about the camps and how they are funded. Its been going on for a long time.
DEA gots dis, on it
Past 65 years 💯🤡🌎😩
How does it come to be that this scenario of foreign or criminal groups who may or may not be citizens are actually living in national parks? That is insane to me despite however large the parks are. Billions go into defense, homeland defense spending how does this happen?
The government profits from it. Not very hard to understand.
We were being setup for hybrid warfare invasion.
around 15:48, these para military groups are part of what Colonel Towner describes as Operation Gladio, decades of infiltration. It is an international syndicate. It was reported years ago there are Turkish groups established in various states, and the Poconos apparently.
Homeland defense is as worthless as Tits on a Bore Hog.
The love of money is the root of all evil..lust, greed, selfishness,envy, strife. We cant get what we want, or we cant get enough, or we got too much.
So many people going missing in the National Parks esp Cali. What happens when a hiker comes upon a grow?
Missing 411 by David Paulides may have mentioned this in this and some of his other books; but the interesting part of his recurring theme is that the US National Park Service has never cooperated with his research.