To be fair, Cloud was completely comatose and Zack told him to be "his living legacy". It's not Cloud's fault. On top of that, Sephiroth and Jenova are messing with his memories by giving him Zack's memories via the Jenova cells. Finally, Cloud is as strong, stronger even, than a second class SOLDIERS like Roche. He has no reason whatsoever to think he WASN'T a SOLDIER 1st class.
Aerith already said "You Can't Fall In Love With Me" Cloud" ruclips.net/video/SwLt7WiNUPQ/видео.htmlsi=g5JH9nyKxnbsGJMF . The "DATE" is just cloud illusion. because Aerith (coma) know what marlene told zack about her like cloud, about "liking and liking". Aerith push cloud out from timelines so zack can alive and arrive/sit a cruch
@@MrInuhanyou123well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
I feel like all his delusions in this game are gonna build up to a worser mental breakdown for part 3 when he realizes what actually happened to Zack in this timeline 😭
Not inaccurate at all? Zack x Aerith were a couple until Zack went missing, and Aerith didn't know what happened to him. Zack wrote to his parents about finding a girlfriend, and Nojima points out in Crisis Core Ultimania that the girlfriend is Aerith. So I'm not sure what inaccuracies you are imagining. LOL.
@@JaggedVII And to further add on your point, he still thinks he was in Zack's position in Nibelheim. That "You came with me on the mission"" when it's really the other way around, he was a low level Guard accompanying Zack and Sephiroth. Shortly after the clip in this video ends, Cloud thinks Zack is the one who got washed away in the water. Idk how that dude thinks what Cloud said is the truth lol
More like isnt allowed to Remake and Rebirth are making it very clear when memories are being modified With static showing a modified memory and when its not, its a pristine transition But concidering the end, and that Cloud is making more general advances in this part, its going to be... interesting... how things unfold As allways, the key memories are those before the Nibleheim incident, the ones Jenova and Sephiroth cannot touch
He was his first friend. He had no one in Nibelheim. Tifa yea abit but they weren't that close. Zacks personality gets out the best in people. For Cloud a shy guy it was hard to make friends but with Zack since he's outgoing he got Cloud to open up. Then they became friends
@@casualgamer3040 tifa and Aerith gets mad at me for that lol why would you be such a jerk on a bestfriend who saved you . plus cloud already has tifa let zack have his gf Aerith kmsl you can't have two its a sin of greed. that's why his sepiroth's favorite puppet. sure call Zack loser. atleast Zack was the one truly loved by Aerith😂 and she won't forget zack no matter what. 😂 Becuz zack fair is the OG boyfriend of Aerith. plus they been thru so much together. alot And for the best Backfire shot Atleast Zack was Consider to be Sepiroth's friend too😂 but Cloud wasn't his just a puppet for sepiroth 😂 that's all .
I don't recall Crisis Core terribly well, but this might have been the first real chance Zack had to talk about having a girlfriend to someone he considered a friend and, knowing him, he'd likely be bursting to chat about it.
@@jameswest6232In Crisis Core Zack gets on many NPCs' nerves on SOLDIER floor because he's constantly talking about his girlfriend. Kunsel figures out Zack wants to see Aerith before he leaves for Nibelheim and covers for him. Even freaking SEPHIROTH knows about Zack's girlfriend and when Genesis's copies attack Midgar Sephiroth tells Zack Slums are also under attack and gives Zack permission to go defend Aerith. In OG there's a letter to Zack's parents saying he got a girlfriend, and in Rebirth instead his mom basically recognizes Aerith from how much Zack told them about her. I think this is just continuation of Zack being unable to shup up about her. 😅
Always thought Zack had the most miserable ending. All the guy wanted was to see Aerith, got hunted down with a comatose cloud, killed his best friend and forced into a situation he never wanted to be in. Then literally gunned down and died a few miles away from her. With Aerith never knowing how desperately this man was trying to get to her. The saddest part of the DMW in his final fight in CC. Basically every memory is fading away and the last person he holds on to is Aerith. Zack really loves Aerith man. Aerith downplays this super hard in the OG and to a degree in the remake. But at least rebirth made some effort to show more glimpses of zack actually showing this in flashbacks.
I made my first runs of FF7 with Zack just beeing "the guy in the photo". He didn't even had a name, and i didn't make the connection with his parents in Congaga. I'm not even telling you about the video in Nibelheim's manor that shows you how he died, that i found years later on youtube. For me, he was just killed by Sephiroth in the reactor...
Aside from finding the flashback on RUclips because I was just exploring right before the crater and stumbled on the scene, I get what you're saying. Zack was a footnote in the ff7 game even though a lot of the things in that game were centered around his memory. He was named when Cloud lost his mind, but it never really struck me that he survived after the reactor either until I stumbled back into the Shinra mansion.
A for effort Cloud lolz. But lets be fair, i honestly think Zack saw clouds potential and thats why he pseudo mentored him like what Angeal did for him.
player (US) as Cloud want save aerith will change the jack timeline. but aerith dont us do that because aerith want save jack at her timeline ( sit at cruch)
Cloud may remember Zack, but he doesn’t remember that he was never actually a SOLDIER like Zack or even that Zack is actually dead. Even the way he remembers the Nibelheim event is the same as how he first remembered it in the og game. I’m intrigued to see how this change in Cloud’s awareness now will affect his character going forward. Because even if he remembers some of it now, it’s clear he doesn’t remember what actually happened back then.
He even didn't remember how Zack died defending him and told Cloud to keep on living. He never even actually visited his mom, explained why he regretted deeply. This confuses me. I'm not sure there will be another memory reveal somewhen in part 3. In the original it happened right after Aerith died and he was in a coma state and Tifa helped him fix his memories.
1:13 For a moment, Cloud’s facial expressions here make him look like a completely different person. It’s like if for a brief moment, his real self made an appearance
Real Cloud comes out a lot of times, it's more noticeable during this and when he talks about the bridge incident with Tifa and during the dream date with Aerith
@@ashemabahumat4173shit he can basically be considered as first class. Roche is a 3rd class soldier and cloud easily dog walks him every time they fight. In rebirth roche gets even more enhancements most likely pushing him to 2nd class ranking and even then he still gets out classes by cloud with relative ease. Clouds not first class on paper but his abilities and strengths are definitely in 1st class ranking.
@@TheAkibared spoiler....square enix release novel of aerith point of view after her death.... she met zack and together they help cloud restored his memories.. then zack also help cloud attained omnislash... omnislash is combination of sephiroth octaslah and zack technique... ohh.. and the novel is released after ff 7 ps1 ended.. is not about aerith.. but about the soul of the death whom lifestream carried
@@pitodn0047 except Aerith and Cloud are alive in Zack's terrier timeline along with Zack, no one knows which way it will go until the 3rd instalment of the game.
@@pitodn0047Are you talking about that book that Square DOESNT back anymore lol. Because it doesn’t add up with the canon events of CC and Dirge.. and Advent Children.. even this game tbh. That book sucks lmao. I’m glad it’s not canon, it’s ruins so much and Aerith is so out of character it’s insane. Literally made to appease Clerith shippers.
Not really. Cloud still thinks he was a SOLDIER in the mission. Not the grunt he was hiding away from everyone. He also lied about going to see his mother. Cloud had a mental breakdown after those events and he is having one again at the end of Rebirth. When Cloud has to deal with massive events in his life. He hides it all inside and makes stuff up in his head.
@@Hezzoran395True, but what Jenova does is make your deepest desire come true through illusions. So Jenova is conjuring illusions on what Cloud wished was true.
@@juliogomesdesouza9035it’s not so much as illusions as it is imprinting and mimicry, a lot of people think the personality Cloud has in FF7 is him mimicking Zack…..which is half true, the JENOVA cells in him not only used Zacks memories but what it gleaned from Tifa in the first encounter in Midgar when she found him suffering from Mako poisoning, you can tell because you see him have one of those large episodes where you can see him grab his head, his brain was literally being rewritten to find a way to fuse the memories of Zack that was copied onto him, with the perception of what Tifa would expect to see in a soldier 1st class cloud strife. It’s kind of funny because in OG when Hojo said Cloud was a failed sephiroth clone that created a personality based on Tifas memory……he was absolutely right……he just did take into consideration of JENOVA making a caricature of 1st class cloud strife from Tifas memory of clouds personality and her own expectations……on Cloud strife
well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
Aerith already said "You Can't Fall In Love With Me" Cloud" ruclips.net/video/SwLt7WiNUPQ/видео.htmlsi=g5JH9nyKxnbsGJMF . The "DATE" is just cloud illusion. because Aerith (coma) know what marlene told zack about her like cloud, about "liking and liking". Aerith push cloud out from timelines so zack can alive and arrive/sit a cruch
At the very end of the game Zack is trying to get back to aerith. He's not giving up even if aerith originally thinks she has to force herself to move on
@@Senko4509 no that's false at first she was intrigued by cloud since he looked so similar to zack but started falling for him and even told she wanted to see the real him.
@@Senko4509 that's not true why are y'all still believing that? she initially saw zack in cloud bc of their similarities but then she ended up developing feelings for cloud for who he is. she says that multiple times, and it's stated in every official material that she does love cloud. no wonder there's so many people misinterpreting the story of this game, people keep spreading wrong info all the time.
@@thedarkderp2520 I think in some files Hojo experimented on him and found out his S cells just can’t corrupt him or something like that Like he has S cells but they can’t copy?? I’m not too sure But the narrative fact is that it’s because (no joke) he’s just built different (strong will and very little mental hang ups) He has the S cells same as sephiroth and cloud but he just never got corrupted even after one ish year on the run with cloud all over the two continents He even beat up Genesis so badly Genesis decided “Ayo maybe being a Soldier and having Honour isn’t so bad after all this guy is JACKED” I think it’s that by the time he got corrupted he had more or less reached the end of his character arc, in that he knew how to be a hero (and more or less already knew he was one), so Jenova didn’t have a lot of things to latch on to and corrupt (because all his homies like him LMAO) TLDR maybe second class Zack could have been corrupted, but not first class Chad Fair had been loved too much and had too much love to lose to Jenova It’s in rebirth also btw; when Zack gets sent into the black portal after watching Sephiroth walk into the church, it’s EXACTLY set up like the scene as to how Cloud falls after the Airbuster fight (cloud’s true self talks to him there, but the sephiroth darkness takes over and it stops so Cloud can’t find his true self) Meanwhile Zack is like SEPHIROTH U RAT IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG IM COMING FOR U and start following his gfs flower petals
Zack is such a goofball when it comes to Aerith. He literally never shuts up about her to the point that even Cloud is "Not interested." 😂 I wonder how many times he has said that catchphrase to Zack to the point where Zack mocks him for it. Man...Aerith doesn't deserve that sweet puppy. Downplaying his love for her. Saying he probably found some other girl. MAN GAVE YOU A RIBBON GIRL! HE HELPED BUILD THE WAGON!!!
it will in part 3, tifa help him restored his memory.. and spoiler....square enix release novel of aerith point of view after her death.... she met zack and together they help cloud restored his memories.. then zack also help cloud attained omnislash... omnislash is combination of sephiroth octaslah and zack technique... ohh.. and the novel is released after ff 7 ps1 ended.. is not about aerith.. but about the soul of the death whom lifestream carried
@@pitodn0047if you talk about Maiden, no. Aerith basically called upon Zacks memories from Livestream, he said they are out of Clouds reach but Aerith helped by covering Cloud and Tifa from Lifestream poisoning. Omnislash is Cloud's original Limit Break. Zack didn't teach him that. Later in AC Cloud improved the technique with his new Fusion Sword.
@@frankie3010yeah but the memory is still wrong and he continues to misremember things later even in real time blocking out memories as we see in the final chapter of the game.
It's so funny to me how one of the first things he remembers about Zack is him being "head over heels for Aerith" (even though Zack never mentioned Aerith's name) instead of mentioning that they were friends first and then the Aerith thing, she's just that important I guess haha Or maybe it's cause he remembered this specific conversation, but it's still rather funny
When you talk to the soldier on the right in chapter one, he says Zack’s line about asking if he’s seeing a girlfriend. Didn’t notice until replaying 🤯
If Zack and Cloud ever get to talk, Zack can officially make Cloud a Soldier and if Zack saw Cloud in action now Cloud would definitely be right there with Zack as Angeal was with Genesis and Sephiroth. The only other fighters that even come close are the Tsviets and Vincent.
well, that big projection of Cloud spinning his head in a headache while Tifa fixing his memories is kinda funny. i wonder how the remake would portray this event.
@@Scatterbladesthat scene (where Tifa seems scared of something that we don’t see before she is inside Cloud’s mind) to me was a symbolism of her entering cloud’s mind. She says “Wait a minute. I know nothing of that!” and just starts running away while holding her head. I interpreted this scene as her being “chased” by something (probably Sephiroth) before Cloud “saves her” by allowing her to enter his subconscious.
Is there really any truth to be revealed anymore though? They already spoiled it with Crisis Core Reunion, plus all the people who comment on these videos flat out spoiling the fact that Cloud was never a SOLDIER. There are unfortunately no secrets left in the remake saga at this point. I don't like the way Square Enix handled this even though I like the games.
He found out about zack faster then i expected in the original cloud only remembered zack literally going down memory lane also other women in his life yeah right zack was gaga over arith.
We all know that Zack was a ladies man and liked to flirt a bit, that was another reason Aerith assumed he ran off with someone after not hearing from him for 5 years and him not answering her letters.
If Cloud remembers everything before Sephiroth shows him the truth I think that could be pretty interesting though it would ruin Sephiroth's plan to get the black materia and be resurrected. It's also clear to me that there's more than one Sephiroth in Remake, we have the OG that he faces in familiar locations but there's another one that he sees in "seven seconds 'til the end" and other weird moments like that. A much more neutral Sephiroth who seems to have different, potentially less destructive plans, given the timeline nonsense I don't think it's crazy to think that there's a Sephiroth out there that either didn't go crazy or came to a different conclusion when he learned about Jenova.
In the original game, the main role of Tifa was to help Cloud regaining his memories. If Cloud does that alone this time, then what will be Tifa's role in the next game?
Don't worry. The game ends with him hallucinating a lot of things, everything he "remembers" or "sees" is completely wrong and false, even relating to Aerith now in the remake trilogy. Tifa is still gonna be the one to save him and make him confront reality, because if the ending is anything to go by, Cloud is living in complete and utter delusion. He really does need to be saved by tifa.
Now that make sense it's confirm cloud know aerith because of zack, so everytime cloud interact with aerith thats was zack persuna not the real cloud, so i don't think aerith have deeper love for cloud than zack, she love cloud for a friend, same with cloud and she miss zack, that's what the meaning of conversations of zack and marlene, everything clear now, wonder if clerith realizes it 😊
"well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
@@jeedada8334 cloud knew aerith even he didn't meet her yet thats because of zack, REAL cloud love aerith as a friend, that why in AC movie cloud talk to aerith and all he wants is forgiveness that's all nothing more, just try to understand the story if i were you.
@@amoghsawant3801 then watch it in REBIRTH you analysis everything, i already said cloud knew aerith because zack told him, so all those actions cloud towards aerith in their date was because he was worried to aerith if she finds out about zack death. Can you see even tough he finds awkward that moment he let it because he wants aerith feel she had a friend.
I know some people may be very upset with me by this, but I've only seen the Final Fantasy 7 Advent childrens 2005 dvd movie as a child and grew to really like FF7 and Sephiroth and Cloud alot from there. I know the majority of the characters and like Zack, who I also like and others aswell but, is the storyline some what change. I never ever played the game because I was never ever had the chance to ever attained any of the Finaly Fantasy games due to certain circumstances, but I seen videos and footage on youtube of crisis core and know little to the story. Is Rebirth's story an alternate interpretation of the original storyline?
(ive been waiting for this day ) so final fantasy 7 came out in 1997 advent children 2005 dirge of cerberus 2006 (not entirely relevant but im including it ) crisis core 2007 then advent children complete 2009 (which was the directors cut ) theres also ever crisis which was a mobile phone game never played it doesnt seem to have much from iit anyway the remake project is consisting of 3 game remake rebirth and whatever there gonna name the last one my geuss will be reunion basicly what there doing is takeing the original source material of ff7 1997 and adapting to a modern audience while changing certain aspects of the story which will eventually lead to a different ending and also including elements character and story from the other titles above in the original game 1997 cloud doesnt remember zack till a later point and under very different circumstances (im also trying to keep this spoiler free ) theres also a another scene that happens with tifa in the original game that in rebirth happens a bit differently both scenes are going to have a very negative effect for cloud in the next game possibly although the ending of rebirth may negate that will just have to wait and see @@Loobie-q6k
@steffanoboin5060 Awesome, thank you so much. You're the coolest😇! I am very thankful for your well detailed explanations, and again, thank you🙏 for just being kind. I wish I could play Rebirth, but it's currently only for PS5😮💨! Welp, I guess, I have to save up for a PLAYSTATION 5. I currently have a PC&PS4 and I just finally got the chance to enjoy and play through FF7 CRISIS CORE REUNION yesterday! I'm thrilled but sadden knowing about what happens to Zack😔. But then again, this is why we love FINAL FANTASY💖 and their great characters and stories.
Do you care about spoilers for Remake? I’m asking cause I was going to explain some more differences that are in the Remake Trilogy but I’ll leave out anything from Rebirth just in case
A guy who can swing a sword that big should have the right to appropriate any identity he wants. He can even be a woman, stunning and brave. This feat alone puts him on a league of his own as SOLDIER.
Cloud is the real hero. He beat Sephiroth 3 times. While Zack never beat him. He beat him in crisis core when he didn’t even have his SOLDIER abilities yet.
stop painting aerith as terrible person for developing feelings for someone else after 5 freaking years of not hearing back from him. people talk about aerith like zack left one day and in the next day she was using another man as a rebound which is not what happened at all. she sent him 89 letters over the years and never got a response back so she eventually gave up and sent him one last goodbye letter and tried to move on with her life, as she should i mean it's not like she and zack were married... also she's not using cloud as a replacement for zack, she saw similarities between them at first which made her interested in cloud but then she eventually ended up developing feelings for cloud for who he is.
aerith weird when mention "about liking and liking" is refer to marlene and zack conversation, she knew that. she love cloud like marlene say, but she want zack alive. because "you were not there" as mention" zack is dead state from marlene, so she push cloud out from timeline and sephiroth arive at cruch. because zack will dead if cloud stay at crouch/timeline. aerith and zack maybe defeat sephiroth like advent children timeline when aerith walk out cruch and zack wait in that door.
@@ugh5281 thats not the reason ppl can wait centurys for their loves. i thing the reason was that she actually felt or knew zack was going to die thats why she moved on and like u said aerith saw cloud as zack thats why she was interested
@@KamusariHR"Ppl can wait centuries for their loves" OK so Cloud can wait for Aerith even after she's dead. Glad we agree on that. Otherwise you think it makes perfect sense that Aerith is obligated to keep herself "pure" for Zack just because she met him first even though from her POV he ghosted her for 5 years and she should wait to reunite with him in death, but even though Cloud thinks he loves Aerith he should immediately move on from her and bang Tifa. Sounds like a sexist double standard.
Can anybody help me understand? Bcs did not play original game back then. Did zack and aerith died in the original game and is there a scene about it? In ff7 remake are there scene or moment where zack and aerith should die like in the original game but didn't?
Same. But did get context from watching clips so anyone more knowledgeable than I are free to expound further as I never played the original but did play Crisis Core (Zack's game) and watched Advent Children. Anyway.... Crisis Core is a prequel of FFVII. The Cloud you are probably aware of is the byproduct of Zack's death due to trauma as he died right before his very eyes. At first, he was trying to live as Zack's living legacy (often stated in the games) but as time goes on, he started to believe he was Zack, adapting some of his mannerisms while retaining some of his own. Not only that, but he believes himself to be a SOLDIER when he never actually became one. As for Aerith, she did die by the hands of Sephiroth in the original game. I don't know the exact turn of events hence why I can't provide further details on this one. Also yes, there are plenty of clips of these on RUclips so you can go and see it for yourself. Edit: Sorry I had to spoil. I can't explain these without spoiling anything. 😅
after the nibelheim incident Zack and cloud were captured and experimented on for a couple years. Zack managed to escape and drag a half conscious cloud with him. while on the run Zack was gunned down by a bunch of shinra troops. as Zack was bleeding out cloud crawled over to him and Zack passed on the buster sword. a couple months after Zack died the events of the OG FF7 take place. about halfway through the OG game sephiroth stabs aerith through the back.
Cloud should have recognized Zack's uniform. That's a 2nd class soldier uniform. Which means, Zack definitely has an important position on past Nibelheim.
Not really. New voice fit for Zack and also works very well for Cloud to imitate because of how similar their voices are. With the old voice, both Zack and Cloud sounds so different that I don't think the Nibelheim flashback would work given that Cloud va sound nothing like Zack.
Но Клауд не говорил "не интересно", зачем обманывать? =( Не красиво по отношению к тем, кто любит кризис кор и Зака. Из-за этого момента не стала покупать и играть в Rebirth.
@@casualgamer3040lol yeah for real. Like bro THIS game doesn’t even back Clerith fans. You full on make out with Tifa and can have a relationship, Aerith goes no where lol.
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"You came with me on a mission."
My man is so shit for brains right now. Bless him.
That part is true. "We fought together as SOLDIERs", that was shit for brains.
I mean its technically true. They were both there on a mission.
@@frankie3010 yea but i think Cloud still thinks he was in Zack's position
Cloud's mental break in part 3 is going to be insane
To be fair, Cloud was completely comatose and Zack told him to be "his living legacy". It's not Cloud's fault. On top of that, Sephiroth and Jenova are messing with his memories by giving him Zack's memories via the Jenova cells.
Finally, Cloud is as strong, stronger even, than a second class SOLDIERS like Roche. He has no reason whatsoever to think he WASN'T a SOLDIER 1st class.
Aerith saying that she probably wasn’t the only woman in Zack's life meanwhile he was calling her his girlfriend 😭
Aerith already said "You Can't Fall In Love With Me" Cloud" ruclips.net/video/SwLt7WiNUPQ/видео.htmlsi=g5JH9nyKxnbsGJMF . The "DATE" is just cloud illusion. because Aerith (coma) know what marlene told zack about her like cloud, about "liking and liking". Aerith push cloud out from timelines so zack can alive and arrive/sit a cruch
She's saying that to cope
@@MrInuhanyou123well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
@@jeedada8334 Technically Cloud is the hero, Zack has been done nothing but losing.
@@leostenbuck4194huh?
Regains his memories and the. Immediately modified them to something inaccurate. Clouds brain truly cannot cope
I feel like all his delusions in this game are gonna build up to a worser mental breakdown for part 3 when he realizes what actually happened to Zack in this timeline 😭
Not inaccurate at all? Zack x Aerith were a couple until Zack went missing, and Aerith didn't know what happened to him. Zack wrote to his parents about finding a girlfriend, and Nojima points out in Crisis Core Ultimania that the girlfriend is Aerith. So I'm not sure what inaccuracies you are imagining. LOL.
@@sakuracardcaptor4709he literally says they fought together as soldiers, which is inaccurate
@@JaggedVII And to further add on your point, he still thinks he was in Zack's position in Nibelheim. That "You came with me on the mission"" when it's really the other way around, he was a low level Guard accompanying Zack and Sephiroth. Shortly after the clip in this video ends, Cloud thinks Zack is the one who got washed away in the water. Idk how that dude thinks what Cloud said is the truth lol
More like isnt allowed to
Remake and Rebirth are making it very clear when memories are being modified
With static showing a modified memory and when its not, its a pristine transition
But concidering the end, and that Cloud is making more general advances in this part, its going to be... interesting... how things unfold
As allways, the key memories are those before the Nibleheim incident, the ones Jenova and Sephiroth cannot touch
yoooo i did NOT realize you could see zack walking upstairs in this scene. broooooo this game
You better remember cloud, because you wont be alive today if it wasn't for Zack.
Yeah
Zack is one of the very few characters in gaming history that is pretty much impossible to dislike.
The dude was THAT kind.
I’m not mad that Clouds memories are still A little not there ..I’m just happy that he remembers the man himself..Zack fair and that he was A friend
And according to clerith shipper , cloud gonna ntr that friend
it's shipper. anyone would ntr anyone.. @@casualgamer3040
He was his first friend. He had no one in Nibelheim. Tifa yea abit but they weren't that close. Zacks personality gets out the best in people. For Cloud a shy guy it was hard to make friends but with Zack since he's outgoing he got Cloud to open up. Then they became friends
@@casualgamer3040 tifa and Aerith gets mad at me for that lol why would you be such a jerk on a bestfriend who saved you . plus cloud already has tifa let zack have his gf Aerith kmsl you can't have two
its a sin of greed.
that's why his sepiroth's favorite puppet.
sure call Zack loser.
atleast Zack was the one truly loved by Aerith😂
and she won't forget zack no matter what. 😂
Becuz zack fair is the OG boyfriend of Aerith.
plus they been thru so much together. alot
And for the best Backfire shot
Atleast Zack was Consider
to be Sepiroth's friend too😂
but Cloud wasn't
his just a puppet for sepiroth 😂 that's all .
Cloud: "Zack Fair...From Gongaga"
(Memory Glitch)
Zack: "You know Gongaga?"
Gongaga
@@wiffmastermase me?
😂😂😂 omg
Cloud: "I abandoned my boy!!!"
Its sweet how much he likes her that he wants to brag about her.
"Imma tell you anyway..."
I don't recall Crisis Core terribly well, but this might have been the first real chance Zack had to talk about having a girlfriend to someone he considered a friend and, knowing him, he'd likely be bursting to chat about it.
@@jameswest6232In Crisis Core Zack gets on many NPCs' nerves on SOLDIER floor because he's constantly talking about his girlfriend. Kunsel figures out Zack wants to see Aerith before he leaves for Nibelheim and covers for him. Even freaking SEPHIROTH knows about Zack's girlfriend and when Genesis's copies attack Midgar Sephiroth tells Zack Slums are also under attack and gives Zack permission to go defend Aerith. In OG there's a letter to Zack's parents saying he got a girlfriend, and in Rebirth instead his mom basically recognizes Aerith from how much Zack told them about her. I think this is just continuation of Zack being unable to shup up about her. 😅
Always thought Zack had the most miserable ending. All the guy wanted was to see Aerith, got hunted down with a comatose cloud, killed his best friend and forced into a situation he never wanted to be in. Then literally gunned down and died a few miles away from her. With Aerith never knowing how desperately this man was trying to get to her. The saddest part of the DMW in his final fight in CC. Basically every memory is fading away and the last person he holds on to is Aerith.
Zack really loves Aerith man. Aerith downplays this super hard in the OG and to a degree in the remake. But at least rebirth made some effort to show more glimpses of zack actually showing this in flashbacks.
I made my first runs of FF7 with Zack just beeing "the guy in the photo". He didn't even had a name, and i didn't make the connection with his parents in Congaga. I'm not even telling you about the video in Nibelheim's manor that shows you how he died, that i found years later on youtube. For me, he was just killed by Sephiroth in the reactor...
This makes me want to cry
Tbf for her Zack never contacted her for five years. Most girls move on from that kind of long distance relationships.
@@trishahernz7809he didn’t cuz he was captured by hojo, and trapped in a lab with cloud.
Aside from finding the flashback on RUclips because I was just exploring right before the crater and stumbled on the scene, I get what you're saying. Zack was a footnote in the ff7 game even though a lot of the things in that game were centered around his memory. He was named when Cloud lost his mind, but it never really struck me that he survived after the reactor either until I stumbled back into the Shinra mansion.
He remembered Zack but still not remembering about himself 😢
“We fought together as SOLDIERs.”
Haha nope, try again Cloud.
Give the guy some credit, he is remembering Zack's existence far earlier than he did in the OG, and that memory doesn't show Cloud's uniform.
It’s half true
@@Sephiroth08150 lol fair enough
He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit.
A for effort Cloud lolz.
But lets be fair, i honestly think Zack saw clouds potential and thats why he pseudo mentored him like what Angeal did for him.
You better remember Zack, Cloud. Zack is the goat!
Zack Master goat cloud baby goat
player (US) as Cloud want save aerith will change the jack timeline. but aerith dont us do that because aerith want save jack at her timeline ( sit at cruch)
Is he though? More like a childish rube.
AND F ANGEAL!!!!!!!
@@mikev1294 what's a childish rube?
Cloud may remember Zack, but he doesn’t remember that he was never actually a SOLDIER like Zack or even that Zack is actually dead. Even the way he remembers the Nibelheim event is the same as how he first remembered it in the og game. I’m intrigued to see how this change in Cloud’s awareness now will affect his character going forward. Because even if he remembers some of it now, it’s clear he doesn’t remember what actually happened back then.
The memory restoration scene in Part 3 is going to be a lot more impactful now
Gaia 2 Zack is still alive I’m looking forward to how they piece the worlds together in pt3
In another timeline. In the base one, Zack is definitely dead.
That's what I was asking myself and trying to find some answers in the internet now 😀
He even didn't remember how Zack died defending him and told Cloud to keep on living. He never even actually visited his mom, explained why he regretted deeply. This confuses me. I'm not sure there will be another memory reveal somewhen in part 3. In the original it happened right after Aerith died and he was in a coma state and Tifa helped him fix his memories.
1:13 For a moment, Cloud’s facial expressions here make him look like a completely different person. It’s like if for a brief moment, his real self made an appearance
I thought the exact same
I think it actually does. The real cloud is just too buried in Zack’s memories and the trauma so it’s brief but that might just be the case
Real Cloud comes out a lot of times, it's more noticeable during this and when he talks about the bridge incident with Tifa and during the dream date with Aerith
Cloud really took this mans sword and girl 💀
Bro still thinks he's a SOLDIER 🤣
Well he has soldier abilities and soldier eyes so i dont blame him 😅😂
Well technically he is thanks to jenova & hojo 😅
He basically is... just not 1st Class, lol. Shinra foot soldier who got the treatment, at least
@@ashemabahumat4173shit he can basically be considered as first class. Roche is a 3rd class soldier and cloud easily dog walks him every time they fight. In rebirth roche gets even more enhancements most likely pushing him to 2nd class ranking and even then he still gets out classes by cloud with relative ease. Clouds not first class on paper but his abilities and strengths are definitely in 1st class ranking.
@jamelgallagher6602 Cloud seemed annoyed when he had to fight Roche again so most likely not a dog walk. Mid diff fight 😊
I cant wait for the reunion in part 3 of zack and aeeith
they gonna help the other team right
@@TheAkibared spoiler....square enix release novel of aerith point of view after her death.... she met zack and together they help cloud restored his memories.. then zack also help cloud attained omnislash... omnislash is combination of sephiroth octaslah and zack technique... ohh.. and the novel is released after ff 7 ps1 ended.. is not about aerith.. but about the soul of the death whom lifestream carried
@@pitodn0047 except Aerith and Cloud are alive in Zack's terrier timeline along with Zack, no one knows which way it will go until the 3rd instalment of the game.
@@sharynmorgan944 well.. if they adapted original timeline .. then aerith and zack will meet in lifestream..
@@pitodn0047Are you talking about that book that Square DOESNT back anymore lol. Because it doesn’t add up with the canon events of CC and Dirge.. and Advent Children.. even this game tbh.
That book sucks lmao. I’m glad it’s not canon, it’s ruins so much and Aerith is so out of character it’s insane. Literally made to appease Clerith shippers.
Not really. Cloud still thinks he was a SOLDIER in the mission. Not the grunt he was hiding away from everyone. He also lied about going to see his mother. Cloud had a mental breakdown after those events and he is having one again at the end of Rebirth. When Cloud has to deal with massive events in his life. He hides it all inside and makes stuff up in his head.
Partially. It's the Jenova in him that's doing a lot of the re-writing from that time given the absolute mess he was in post Hojo's fun and games.
@@Hezzoran395True, but what Jenova does is make your deepest desire come true through illusions. So Jenova is conjuring illusions on what Cloud wished was true.
si ther a source on ths? i thought jenova were allien cells or just an straighg alien
@@juliogomesdesouza9035
@@juliogomesdesouza9035it’s not so much as illusions as it is imprinting and mimicry, a lot of people think the personality Cloud has in FF7 is him mimicking Zack…..which is half true, the JENOVA cells in him not only used Zacks memories but what it gleaned from Tifa in the first encounter in Midgar when she found him suffering from Mako poisoning, you can tell because you see him have one of those large episodes where you can see him grab his head, his brain was literally being rewritten to find a way to fuse the memories of Zack that was copied onto him, with the perception of what Tifa would expect to see in a soldier 1st class cloud strife.
It’s kind of funny because in OG when Hojo said Cloud was a failed sephiroth clone that created a personality based on Tifas memory……he was absolutely right……he just did take into consideration of JENOVA making a caricature of 1st class cloud strife from Tifas memory of clouds personality and her own expectations……on Cloud strife
well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
Maaaaan, Zack really loved Aerith. Really hope SE doesn't truly take her away from him after that Marlene line.
Aerith already said "You Can't Fall In Love With Me" Cloud" ruclips.net/video/SwLt7WiNUPQ/видео.htmlsi=g5JH9nyKxnbsGJMF . The "DATE" is just cloud illusion. because Aerith (coma) know what marlene told zack about her like cloud, about "liking and liking". Aerith push cloud out from timelines so zack can alive and arrive/sit a cruch
At the very end of the game Zack is trying to get back to aerith. He's not giving up even if aerith originally thinks she has to force herself to move on
@@MrInuhanyou123 True, plus she only "likes" Cloud because he took on Zacks persona
@@Senko4509 no that's false at first she was intrigued by cloud since he looked so similar to zack but started falling for him and even told she wanted to see the real him.
@@Senko4509 that's not true why are y'all still believing that? she initially saw zack in cloud bc of their similarities but then she ended up developing feelings for cloud for who he is. she says that multiple times, and it's stated in every official material that she does love cloud. no wonder there's so many people misinterpreting the story of this game, people keep spreading wrong info all the time.
Man imagine if the writers had Cloud add “He was my best friend”. That would’ve hammered in the emotional aspect of this in my opinion
How can you forget your boy
Jenova: LOL I’m gonna tell this guy chad fair the one guy in the whole setting I can’t brainwash drowned in a river 😂
Actually now that you mention it you're right why can't Jenova influence Zack like it can Cloud unless that'll be explored in the third game
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I think in some files Hojo experimented on him and found out his S cells just can’t corrupt him or something like that
Like he has S cells but they can’t copy?? I’m not too sure
But the narrative fact is that it’s because (no joke) he’s just built different (strong will and very little mental hang ups)
He has the S cells same as sephiroth and cloud but he just never got corrupted even after one ish year on the run with cloud all over the two continents
He even beat up Genesis so badly Genesis decided “Ayo maybe being a Soldier and having Honour isn’t so bad after all this guy is JACKED”
I think it’s that by the time he got corrupted he had more or less reached the end of his character arc, in that he knew how to be a hero (and more or less already knew he was one), so Jenova didn’t have a lot of things to latch on to and corrupt (because all his homies like him LMAO)
TLDR maybe second class Zack could have been corrupted, but not first class Chad Fair had been loved too much and had too much love to lose to Jenova
It’s in rebirth also btw; when Zack gets sent into the black portal after watching Sephiroth walk into the church, it’s EXACTLY set up like the scene as to how Cloud falls after the Airbuster fight (cloud’s true self talks to him there, but the sephiroth darkness takes over and it stops so Cloud can’t find his true self)
Meanwhile Zack is like SEPHIROTH U RAT IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG IM COMING FOR U and start following his gfs flower petals
Zack is such a goofball when it comes to Aerith. He literally never shuts up about her to the point that even Cloud is "Not interested." 😂 I wonder how many times he has said that catchphrase to Zack to the point where Zack mocks him for it.
Man...Aerith doesn't deserve that sweet puppy. Downplaying his love for her. Saying he probably found some other girl. MAN GAVE YOU A RIBBON GIRL! HE HELPED BUILD THE WAGON!!!
Not just one, three wagons
@@konjiki8203 THREE WAGON!!!
Aerith is just coping bro, she doesn't wanna think that the reason Zack ghosted her for 5 years was because he was dead 🥲
Although, he still doesn't remember that he wasn't a SOLDIER himself. But I guess they're saving the important details for Part 3.
This reminds me of how Assassin's creed Desmond could see and hear events that happened centuries ago when he's someplace his ancestors passed by
Please remember him correctly 😢😢 that he died saving you and he just wanted to get home to see Aerith
it will in part 3, tifa help him restored his memory.. and spoiler....square enix release novel of aerith point of view after her death.... she met zack and together they help cloud restored his memories.. then zack also help cloud attained omnislash... omnislash is combination of sephiroth octaslah and zack technique... ohh.. and the novel is released after ff 7 ps1 ended.. is not about aerith.. but about the soul of the death whom lifestream carried
Novel name?
@@pitodn0047if you talk about Maiden, no. Aerith basically called upon Zacks memories from Livestream, he said they are out of Clouds reach but Aerith helped by covering Cloud and Tifa from Lifestream poisoning.
Omnislash is Cloud's original Limit Break. Zack didn't teach him that. Later in AC Cloud improved the technique with his new Fusion Sword.
I think it’s not really regained, it’s still kind of vague for him, Zack’s face is obstructed
No, the face clears out at the end of the flashback.
It's mostly due to the Jenova cells in his body
@@frankie3010yeah but the memory is still wrong and he continues to misremember things later even in real time blocking out memories as we see in the final chapter of the game.
@@LucasCarter2 He's getting there.
Nope he straight ip saw Zack’s face
All of this could have been avoided if Tifa just... wait a minute. Something seems awfully familiar about this.
It's so funny to me how one of the first things he remembers about Zack is him being "head over heels for Aerith" (even though Zack never mentioned Aerith's name) instead of mentioning that they were friends first and then the Aerith thing, she's just that important I guess haha
Or maybe it's cause he remembered this specific conversation, but it's still rather funny
When you talk to the soldier on the right in chapter one, he says Zack’s line about asking if he’s seeing a girlfriend. Didn’t notice until replaying 🤯
If Zack and Cloud ever get to talk, Zack can officially make Cloud a Soldier and if Zack saw Cloud in action now Cloud would definitely be right there with Zack as Angeal was with Genesis and Sephiroth. The only other fighters that even come close are the Tsviets and Vincent.
They get like 5 seconds to talk before having to fight a thing. So part 3 hopefully they get some time in the lifestream
@@afkmh2392 I think Zack is still in the Terrier world, so Aerith and Zack in that world are still alive, who knows?
damn
Well.. he did gain his memory of Zack... faster than we thought.
Half correct... but not even close... not yet.
If you actually look closely during the beginning of the video, you can see Zack walking up the stairs. (Because of Cloud's Jenova Headache)
Cloud Puppy
Zack GOAT
zack really is everyones crisis core, huh? poor guy...
I feel bad for Zack. Hes my second fav character after Tifa. They did him dirty. I wish he will get his happy ending.😢
Funny. Whenever Barrett speaks all I'm reminded about is Sugar Puffs for some reason. Maybe because he's voice acted by the Honey Monster I dunno.
Me? Gongaga
I love to see someone from final fantasy games in America
I for one can’t wait to see all of the newcomers to the series’ reaction when the truth is revealed in part 3
well, that big projection of Cloud spinning his head in a headache while Tifa fixing his memories is kinda funny. i wonder how the remake would portray this event.
@@Scatterbladesthat scene (where Tifa seems scared of something that we don’t see before she is inside Cloud’s mind) to me was a symbolism of her entering cloud’s mind. She says “Wait a minute. I know nothing of that!” and just starts running away while holding her head.
I interpreted this scene as her being “chased” by something (probably Sephiroth) before Cloud “saves her” by allowing her to enter his subconscious.
Is there really any truth to be revealed anymore though? They already spoiled it with Crisis Core Reunion, plus all the people who comment on these videos flat out spoiling the fact that Cloud was never a SOLDIER. There are unfortunately no secrets left in the remake saga at this point. I don't like the way Square Enix handled this even though I like the games.
"kinda depends on the angle" he said...
I winder how Aerith would react lol~
Zack the true OG
I like how even though Zack is well known and already reintroduced in the Remake Series, his face is obscured and his name is ???
That's probably just showing us how Cloud can't remember.
When describing Aerith….What was Zack talkin bout when he said depends on the angle?😂😂😂 Im assuming dat DONK
He found out about zack faster then i expected in the original cloud only remembered zack literally going down memory lane also other women in his life yeah right zack was gaga over arith.
We all know that Zack was a ladies man and liked to flirt a bit, that was another reason Aerith assumed he ran off with someone after not hearing from him for 5 years and him not answering her letters.
When cloud started asking where he went… I felt that…
Gongaga 🗣🗣🗣
He remembers Zack, yet he still thinks he’s a First Class Soldier.💀
He doesn't remember the full story yet, but at least him remembering Zack puts the "Cloud thinks he's Zack" theory to rest
The Real Feels Of 7 or Cloud…. 😢
He remembers, but sad he noticed it's advent children version.
Don’t know if I’m reaching but to me it sounds like Cloud uses his real voice here.
If Cloud remembers everything before Sephiroth shows him the truth I think that could be pretty interesting though it would ruin Sephiroth's plan to get the black materia and be resurrected.
It's also clear to me that there's more than one Sephiroth in Remake, we have the OG that he faces in familiar locations but there's another one that he sees in "seven seconds 'til the end" and other weird moments like that.
A much more neutral Sephiroth who seems to have different, potentially less destructive plans, given the timeline nonsense I don't think it's crazy to think that there's a Sephiroth out there that either didn't go crazy or came to a different conclusion when he learned about Jenova.
Cloud remembers Zack and Cloud even tells Tifa that Aerith has feelings for Zack.
I miss Zack's old voice
Me too
Zack such a charming guy and in the end chose Aerith?? Dang.
Why is 1:16 most replayed?
Because Gongaga
Of course..... gongaga
Zack hyped aerith up so much we just had to steal her from him 😂😂
For the both of us... you're gonna... live. You'll be... my living legacy. My honor, my dreams, my girlfriend... They're yours now...
He didn't see it coming!
@@zamaskowany12 It feels wrong but acceptable
@@zamaskowany12 But Cloud kissed Tifa
Sephiroth: no................
it would have been a fun adventure with cloud the party and zack.. but u cant have 2 buster sword weilder.. so 1 gotta go and we know who it is..
Was this in the OG game too? Like this scene?
No
In the original game, the main role of Tifa was to help Cloud regaining his memories. If Cloud does that alone this time, then what will be Tifa's role in the next game?
right? will they just skip that whole part? i don't like the direction they are taking...
He didn't remember it clearly and it does seems that Cloud's mental state is much worse than before, so Tifa is pretty much has same role needed.
@@ladansemakabre Neither do I. I have just started playing the game, but the spoiler i got from RUclips really disappointed me.
@@MinhLe19303 his mental state is worse because he starts to remember things alone.
Don't worry. The game ends with him hallucinating a lot of things, everything he "remembers" or "sees" is completely wrong and false, even relating to Aerith now in the remake trilogy. Tifa is still gonna be the one to save him and make him confront reality, because if the ending is anything to go by, Cloud is living in complete and utter delusion. He really does need to be saved by tifa.
Aerith: I stopped going out with Zack, he is such a playboy.
Cloud: Welcome to my harem...
more like updated the fanfic.. the self insert fanfic is important, and new lore means adjustments had to be made….
Zack is the true hero of ff7
No. Cloud is.
@@smilinjack87 nah cloud is gay
@@smilinjack87No Zack is bro he is first original character soldier and cloud is second lead 😂
@@Zero-xl2ef Zack is the true hero of Crisis Core, in which he paved the way for Cloud to be the true hero of the original FF7.
@@bluevanguard9980 nah he is the true hero cloud is just plot armor.
What is that sword!?
crystal sword
Dear Square Enix:
You f***kers better not dare take Aerith away from my boy Zack.
That is all.
Now that make sense it's confirm cloud know aerith because of zack, so everytime cloud interact with aerith thats was zack persuna not the real cloud, so i don't think aerith have deeper love for cloud than zack, she love cloud for a friend, same with cloud and she miss zack, that's what the meaning of conversations of zack and marlene, everything clear now, wonder if clerith realizes it 😊
"well , its clear. you don't who zack is" this statement from aerith after cloud said zack is loser soldier. because aerith know zack, cloud just love aerith from what he think. zack is different persona. a hero, cloud is denial.
@@jeedada8334 cloud knew aerith even he didn't meet her yet thats because of zack, REAL cloud love aerith as a friend, that why in AC movie cloud talk to aerith and all he wants is forgiveness that's all nothing more, just try to understand the story if i were you.
@@lunad.05-10he didn't know about aerith. He didn't got Zack memory. First time he met her he thought aerith is a theft.
@@lunad.05-10in remake ultimania author said aerith starts to falling in love with cloud.
@@amoghsawant3801 then watch it in REBIRTH you analysis everything, i already said cloud knew aerith because zack told him, so all those actions cloud towards aerith in their date was because he was worried to aerith if she finds out about zack death. Can you see even tough he finds awkward that moment he let it because he wants aerith feel she had a friend.
Cloti and Zerith. Canon couples
I know some people may be very upset with me by this, but I've only seen the Final Fantasy 7 Advent childrens 2005 dvd movie as a child and grew to really like FF7 and Sephiroth and Cloud alot from there. I know the majority of the characters and like Zack, who I also like and others aswell but, is the storyline some what change.
I never ever played the game because I was never ever had the chance to ever attained any of the Finaly Fantasy games due to certain circumstances, but I seen videos and footage on youtube of crisis core and know little to the story. Is Rebirth's story an alternate interpretation of the original storyline?
You want 3 games explained to you...?
@@maybayV2 I don't mind😊
(ive been waiting for this day )
so final fantasy 7 came out in 1997
advent children 2005
dirge of cerberus 2006 (not entirely relevant but im including it )
crisis core 2007
then advent children complete 2009 (which was the directors cut )
theres also ever crisis which was a mobile phone game never played it doesnt seem to have much from iit anyway
the remake project is consisting of 3 game remake rebirth and whatever there gonna name the last one my geuss will be reunion
basicly what there doing is takeing the original source material of ff7 1997 and adapting to a modern audience while changing certain aspects of the story which will eventually lead to a different ending and also including elements character and story from the other titles above
in the original game 1997 cloud doesnt remember zack till a later point and under very different circumstances (im also trying to keep this spoiler free )
theres also a another scene that happens with tifa in the original game that in rebirth happens a bit differently
both scenes are going to have a very negative effect for cloud in the next game possibly although the ending of rebirth may negate that will just have to wait and see
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@steffanoboin5060 Awesome, thank you so much. You're the coolest😇! I am very thankful for your well detailed explanations, and again, thank you🙏 for just being kind.
I wish I could play Rebirth, but it's currently only for PS5😮💨! Welp, I guess, I have to save up for a PLAYSTATION 5. I currently have a PC&PS4 and I just finally got the chance to enjoy and play through FF7 CRISIS CORE REUNION yesterday! I'm thrilled but sadden knowing about what happens to Zack😔. But then again, this is why we love FINAL FANTASY💖 and their great characters and stories.
Do you care about spoilers for Remake? I’m asking cause I was going to explain some more differences that are in the Remake Trilogy but I’ll leave out anything from Rebirth just in case
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What chapter is this from?
Guys plz respond😞
@@marilyncordero3773 8 or 9?
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@@night104 I hope you have a wonderful life. Truly bless🙏🙏🙏
@@marilyncordero3773No problem. Finished this section yesterday and I was so immersed. Could never forget it
A guy who can swing a sword that big should have the right to appropriate any identity he wants. He can even be a woman, stunning and brave. This feat alone puts him on a league of his own as SOLDIER.
Finally, the puppet regains his memories. He knows who is the real hero.
Cloud is the real hero. He beat Sephiroth 3 times. While Zack never beat him. He beat him in crisis core when he didn’t even have his SOLDIER abilities yet.
Zack's story paved the path for Cloud to become a hero. that's what his role is..
They're both heroes.
His legacy gave birth to FFVII
Zack deserves so much better. The girl he loves wants Cloud to replace him. She didn't deserve him at all.
stop painting aerith as terrible person for developing feelings for someone else after 5 freaking years of not hearing back from him. people talk about aerith like zack left one day and in the next day she was using another man as a rebound which is not what happened at all. she sent him 89 letters over the years and never got a response back so she eventually gave up and sent him one last goodbye letter and tried to move on with her life, as she should i mean it's not like she and zack were married... also she's not using cloud as a replacement for zack, she saw similarities between them at first which made her interested in cloud but then she eventually ended up developing feelings for cloud for who he is.
aerith weird when mention "about liking and liking" is refer to marlene and zack conversation, she knew that. she love cloud like marlene say, but she want zack alive. because "you were not there" as mention" zack is dead state from marlene, so she push cloud out from timeline and sephiroth arive at cruch. because zack will dead if cloud stay at crouch/timeline. aerith and zack maybe defeat sephiroth like advent children timeline when aerith walk out cruch and zack wait in that door.
@@ugh5281 thats not the reason ppl can wait centurys for their loves. i thing the reason was that she actually felt or knew zack was going to die thats why she moved on and like u said aerith saw cloud as zack thats why she was interested
@@KamusariHR"Ppl can wait centuries for their loves" OK so Cloud can wait for Aerith even after she's dead. Glad we agree on that. Otherwise you think it makes perfect sense that Aerith is obligated to keep herself "pure" for Zack just because she met him first even though from her POV he ghosted her for 5 years and she should wait to reunite with him in death, but even though Cloud thinks he loves Aerith he should immediately move on from her and bang Tifa. Sounds like a sexist double standard.
@@ultimamage3 nobody said to another i love u just i like u everything else is just speculation lets see what the third part gives us
Can anybody help me understand? Bcs did not play original game back then. Did zack and aerith died in the original game and is there a scene about it? In ff7 remake are there scene or moment where zack and aerith should die like in the original game but didn't?
Zack died before the events of FF7, I don't want to give spoilers, but Cloud is directly connected to Zack.
Aerith dies in Rebirth, just like in the original, but some things are different
Same. But did get context from watching clips so anyone more knowledgeable than I are free to expound further as I never played the original but did play Crisis Core (Zack's game) and watched Advent Children. Anyway....
Crisis Core is a prequel of FFVII. The Cloud you are probably aware of is the byproduct of Zack's death due to trauma as he died right before his very eyes. At first, he was trying to live as Zack's living legacy (often stated in the games) but as time goes on, he started to believe he was Zack, adapting some of his mannerisms while retaining some of his own. Not only that, but he believes himself to be a SOLDIER when he never actually became one.
As for Aerith, she did die by the hands of Sephiroth in the original game. I don't know the exact turn of events hence why I can't provide further details on this one.
Also yes, there are plenty of clips of these on RUclips so you can go and see it for yourself.
Edit: Sorry I had to spoil. I can't explain these without spoiling anything. 😅
after the nibelheim incident Zack and cloud were captured and experimented on for a couple years. Zack managed to escape and drag a half conscious cloud with him. while on the run Zack was gunned down by a bunch of shinra troops. as Zack was bleeding out cloud crawled over to him and Zack passed on the buster sword. a couple months after Zack died the events of the OG FF7 take place. about halfway through the OG game sephiroth stabs aerith through the back.
@@3irmaos. i don't mind spoilers. Dont worry
Cloud should have recognized Zack's uniform. That's a 2nd class soldier uniform. Which means, Zack definitely has an important position on past Nibelheim.
zack wear First Class uniform......2nd class different color
No it’s not? It’s very clearly Black. A 1st uniform.
What chapter is this?
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Got spoilers.
I'm not excited for the 3rd game at all. I wouldn't wish that trauma on my worst enemy.
The old radio VCR static effect is so annoying and overdone. Otherwise the content of the visions are interesting.
I still prefer the original voice actor for Zack, he was much better.
i’m always think his old va is sonic’s current va for some reason
I agree love Rick gomez,, but his current VA Caleb did improve alot u gotta give it to him! 👍
@@user-ne6gn4vt5s he does sound much better, actually sounds like zack this time
Not really. New voice fit for Zack and also works very well for Cloud to imitate because of how similar their voices are.
With the old voice, both Zack and Cloud sounds so different that I don't think the Nibelheim flashback would work given that Cloud va sound nothing like Zack.
Но Клауд не говорил "не интересно", зачем обманывать? =( Не красиво по отношению к тем, кто любит кризис кор и Зака. Из-за этого момента не стала покупать и играть в Rebirth.
Oh really and I’m sure Zack also was with someone else too how many female was he with did he cheat?
he never cheated y'all make that shit up to make him look bad 💀💀
Zero… now shut up!
He never cheated on Aerith, he was just flirty with other girls before meeting Aerith I think
Zack never cheated on Aerith. He has been in love with her and only her since the day they met. Does his sincerity offend you?
Gosh, crisis core fans are so annoying. Wish youtube would allow slurs rn.
Spotted the clerith lmao
@@casualgamer3040lol yeah for real. Like bro THIS game doesn’t even back Clerith fans. You full on make out with Tifa and can have a relationship, Aerith goes no where lol.
@@basedkaiser5352 checking your pigga pilled profile, no wonder why your comments are so retarded. Stay mad, 0 y.o poopin balls licker