I've had the 225s for a bit under 2 years now. I work at a golf shop in Australia, and in my spare time I test out all the clubs. My handicap is now 5 down from 13 when I first got the 225s. After testing the 923 tour, and 241s, I'm never getting any other brand of irons. The best irons bar none. Mizuno for life!
I went to my local golf shop wanting the 245s based on looks lol. But I was hitting the 243's more consistently in comparison to the 245. As intimidating as the 243's were to look down at address, I felt more comfortable with them in the end so I ordered them. First set of Mizunos can't wait!
Just went from the 225 to the 243s and love them! Very easy to hit and a little easier to work the ball if you need to.. the 225s seemed to produce straight pushes & pulls to me with a bad swing. Don't have this problem with the 243s.. best iron I've owned
Got the 245’s in February and absolutely loving the feel and feedback. The consistency of my ball striking and the improved confidence over any shot, have both gone way up. So have my GIR’s! I am definitely a new Mizuno fan!
I got the hmbs when they came out. Found them a little punishing for me. Switched to the cobra forged tec. Maybe I'll go back to them when my ball striking improves
Just takes time my man. I'm no pro, not even a competitive amateur, but after 30 years, I can usually feel exactly where the ball strike is. Put the time in and pay attention, rather than just bashing balls downrange, and you'll get there in a few years. If you don't have access to a tracking system, use foot powder on the face to witness the strike. Intentionally hit center, toe, heel, high, low - that feedback loop is a huge benefit for self-improvement.
As a woman it’s hard to find the best clubs I think. My first own set of clubs are the 245s, I bought them in April. I used the last set of my boyfriend the epic forged ones to begin golf last year. I was quite intimidated when I hit all the forgiving irons and they weren’t feeling balanced enough from clubhead and shaft but with the 245s I was hitting that nice baby fade consistently to 142yds with the 7iron. Did a second fitting a week later and I still performed best with the 245s. Great technique and appealing to the eyes☺️
Best to forget male / female when it comes to a modern fitting. Just head speed, tempo, attack angle, release point and other more useful swing data. The ball doesn’t care about gender.
I just got fit into the 245s. I was blown away by the look, feel, sound, forgiveness. This is the most impressive iron I’ve hit in so long. I’m dying waiting for them to arrive. Incredible work by Mizuno, Vosh and team
Playing the 923 forged since tail end of last season and loving them but the pro series is so pretty! Can see the 245 or newer generation going in the bag next time.
Lucky enough to be bagging the 225s myself and I get the bag appeal of the 245. They certainly pass the eye test. You can see the wheels turning there in Luke’s head. More important decision than his Ryder cup captains picks…
I was lucky enough to visit the Mizuno European Tour truck during a fitting at a local fitting warehouse.. Amazing experience and I was fitted for the 245s . Amazing feel and consistency of flight and dispersion
Just got fitted for irons after playing my previous set for nearly 25 years. Went through six different heads, including 243 and 245. I hit the 243s the most consistently, and I was having a bad day in terms of ball striking in the simulator. 245s were a bit chunky for my taste, but they slapp. Once I got the 243 linked up with the right shaft and length, it was money all day long. L-R and Distance dispersion were tasty, if it translates to the course I'm going to be dropping lawn darts with the scoring irons. Waiting a week or so for them to get built and hoping there's enough season left to get out for a few rounds. Big Ups to Mizuno for doing the near-impossible: staying true to traditional and history while pushing the technological envelop and infusing those engineering benefits into the kit.
So jealous! I've been playing my JPX 825 Pro irons since new in 2014, and just can't wear them out! I'd love to play those new 245s just to enjoy the feel. I can dream.
I have the 225’s got fit at TXG and I didn’t think Mizuno could improve upon them. I was wrong somehow Mizuno created a smaller footprint that is more forgiving softer feeling and more spin ( I’m a high ball hitter so so stopping power not an issue for me ). I only hit them in store and can’t afford new clubs every year ( every ten years for me) but I have no issues with flyers with my 225’s unless it’s an actual flyer lie. Well done Mizuno the 225’s are the nicest irons I’ve ever owned and you one upped them
I really want to get a 241/245 combo set. I play hogan apex 50th anniversary irons now with 7.0 but they are way to strong for me now. I just turned 50 and have lost over 30mph swing speed in the last 5 years. Injuries and age slowing me down now bigtime. I want a new set with the ust recoil 95 graphite shafts in a regular flex. These irons with those shafts are so much easier on the body, just feels so smooth and soft. I felt alot better after a large bucket then i normally do hitting mine. Trying to save up now
Played a demo set of 241s last week. First ball 6 iron. 3ft. Very accurate. Hit the 243’s and 245’s. I could see a 4 iron in a 245. Tried to like the JPX 923 but the 241’s are the ticket. 243’s are ok. Best Mizuno irons of all time! Including the MP 33’s. Don’t change a thing.
I play MP 60s and have hit everything Mizuno has to offer as well as pretty much everything else out there...I settled on the 245s and I am happy I did.
I have been playing the 221's since they came out a couple of years back but recently re-shafted my old MP4's which I always loved. I think they are a slightly better club. A tiny bit more powerful and the sole is better for me. My 221 9 Iron has also suffering from some chrome flaking/chipping off which is a shame. Makes no difference to performance but never had that happen on my MP4's or MP32's which I played for donkeys years way back when. Blade design is really to do with sole grind and minute changes in location of the muscle back. It is personal choice. The 245's though do look like an interesting club. Something I might be interested in in a few years when my speed drops off a bit.
I really wanted the 245's to be my irons when I got fitted last year. They are so pretty. I just couldn't get the spin I needed from them. Ended up with Cobra King Tour bent 2 degrees weak.
Lovely clubs, but why are they £1500 when a set of MP-18s were £750 5 years ago. Have played Mizuno clubs since 1983 but currently cannot justify the cost of any new ones which is a great shame.
You’re right - prices have moved on an uncomfortable amount. Afraid it’s a combo of a lot of other costs into us going up - materials, labour, shipping.
Hey Mizuno, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and repurpose your long videos into highly engaging shorts? I can also make high CTR thumbnails for your channel
Currently game the JPX921 hot metal. Getting ready to upgrade my iron set… Would the 245 be the better club to upgrade to or the 923? What’s the difference between the 245 and 923?
I've been playing mp4s, mp5s and mp30s for ever. Wondering how much of a difference those would make. Sidenote: I hit my irons already high enough and I'm not chasing distance.
@@mizunogolf1906 it just looks ridiculous for one golf-club mfg to come out with at least 3 "new" clubs whose basic function is to replace the evil blade design with what looks like a blade but is actually a "game-improvement" design. But wait, again, it's not how they loo that matters :) it's how they play. Because standing in the clubhouse or on the teebox it's important that your irons look "Tour-level" but after you tee off you want to be on the green or at least on the fairway a chip-shot in front of the green. Not because your clubs are so great! but because you're such a great player. So your clubs can't look like "obviously you suck but we're going to do the best that we can to help you, without going hybrid or wood"" So what happens if the player is so bad that they can't even hit a game-improvement club well, but still wants their clubs to look like proper blades? Do they need to break 100 to even swing your clubs? Because of course you don't want the company name on irons that are played by bad players. . Well none of these three guys are bad players, not great players but still not bad, decent Tour pros or at least a Tourpro like player. So they should all play well even with blades. The few mis-hits they have with blades we'll never see because those will be edited-out of any video for mass release. so we never get to see how much they help good players...and we don't get to see how much they help bad players because you aren't going to put bad players in your ads. so what is the point of this? Just to keep saying Mizuno and 241, 243, 245 etc like a mantra. and gosh how long does that really take
@@mizunogolf1906 what makes a lot more sense but still has obvious pitfalls: 1-get more low-handicap players playing GI equipment. 2-improve the blades just enough to get decent players to rave about how much better they play with them despite the fact that they look almost exactly likek their dads' blades And I can see that there is some of #2 in this ad. Kinda the point of 3 differrent types. But no matter what Mizuno does, first of all, someone has probably already tried it before and second they certainly can do whatever Mizuno does in the future. And for Chrissakes, who is really going to go out and buy new clubs? they might go out and buy used clubs. but how often does the average player change their irons...out of their own pocket? I've been playing for 30 years and I've bought two sets of irons. My current set cost me $100 on ebay 20 years ago. Would I like to have a 180 yd 7-iron? Sure. is it going to happen? Not any way that I know of. is it going to happen by upgrading to these clubs? Now THAT would make for an interesting ad. Bring in a bunch of players with 20 handicaps and show them the beneit, in real-world numbers, hard data, in switching from their current irons to these new Mizunos. Not that they can pick up 30 yards on a range. That they play significantly better shots on a course, more consistently. My normal 7 is about 135-145 yds. I put 30 yards on it, that's a big difference. I would also hope that I hit more consistently and score lower, eh? And if not, then what is the point of upgrading.
could the 245 be the best iron for 2024, proof is in the pudding when you have tour pros going on about the most forgiving club in the offering and they all want to use it
Obviously the 3 players are on staff with Mizuno - but we’re showing the differences between Mizuno models. No incentive to like one model over another.
Because that head design needs those lofts. All the 7 irons peak and descend as 7 irons should. Some of us need more help than others - due to head speed, attack angle etc.
Luke HAS NO POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He lost his game and power 13 years ago. He is seperated in his body swinging and cant fix it. he does not know what I know
I've been playing with the 245 since Feb 2024. Incredible clubs.
I've had the 225s for a bit under 2 years now. I work at a golf shop in Australia, and in my spare time I test out all the clubs. My handicap is now 5 down from 13 when I first got the 225s. After testing the 923 tour, and 241s, I'm never getting any other brand of irons. The best irons bar none. Mizuno for life!
Agreed...I'm going from 921 tours to the 245 pro's in a couple of weeks. The 245's feel sooooo good.
I got the 245’s about a month ago. Best irons I’ve ever hit. I’m sure these will be in my bag for several years. Not to mention they look incredible!
I went to my local golf shop wanting the 245s based on looks lol. But I was hitting the 243's more consistently in comparison to the 245. As intimidating as the 243's were to look down at address, I felt more comfortable with them in the end so I ordered them. First set of Mizunos can't wait!
I hit both 241 and 245 better then 243. So I play a combo 241/245
@@gachulonsito Does that not result in any gapping issues? I thought the 245s were much stronger lofted compared to the 241?
@@CocorumbaWinsmy 241 are strong the 245 is weak. Works quite well
Just went from the 225 to the 243s and love them! Very easy to hit and a little easier to work the ball if you need to.. the 225s seemed to produce straight pushes & pulls to me with a bad swing. Don't have this problem with the 243s.. best iron I've owned
Exactly the same I’m getting those 243
I have 225 irons and love them, now I want 245s
Got the 245’s in February and absolutely loving the feel and feedback. The consistency of my ball striking and the improved confidence over any shot, have both gone way up. So have my GIR’s! I am definitely a new Mizuno fan!
I still play the MP20 HMB’s
Absolutely love em…
Early version of the 245.
@@mizunogolf1906 Yes! Hollow body irons are a game saver 🏌🏽♂️🙏🏽
Thanks Mizuno 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I got the hmbs when they came out. Found them a little punishing for me. Switched to the cobra forged tec. Maybe I'll go back to them when my ball striking improves
I play mp20’s mmc and have mp20 blades 8-pw. They still spin. They feel great. Look great. Mizuno for life
245 goes further than 241. Well duh, it's 4 degrees stronger in loft!
The way tour pros can spot differences in clubs and ball strikes is amazing
Just takes time my man. I'm no pro, not even a competitive amateur, but after 30 years, I can usually feel exactly where the ball strike is. Put the time in and pay attention, rather than just bashing balls downrange, and you'll get there in a few years. If you don't have access to a tracking system, use foot powder on the face to witness the strike. Intentionally hit center, toe, heel, high, low - that feedback loop is a huge benefit for self-improvement.
Just ordered mine and I can't wait... Had Mizunos as a kid... and now I'm eager to get back to the brand that feels like none other
As a woman it’s hard to find the best clubs I think. My first own set of clubs are the 245s, I bought them in April. I used the last set of my boyfriend the epic forged ones to begin golf last year. I was quite intimidated when I hit all the forgiving irons and they weren’t feeling balanced enough from clubhead and shaft but with the 245s I was hitting that nice baby fade consistently to 142yds with the 7iron. Did a second fitting a week later and I still performed best with the 245s. Great technique and appealing to the eyes☺️
Best to forget male / female when it comes to a modern fitting. Just head speed, tempo, attack angle, release point and other more useful swing data. The ball doesn’t care about gender.
I just got fit into the 245s. I was blown away by the look, feel, sound, forgiveness. This is the most impressive iron I’ve hit in so long. I’m dying waiting for them to arrive. Incredible work by Mizuno, Vosh and team
Same!
Playing the 923 forged since tail end of last season and loving them but the pro series is so pretty! Can see the 245 or newer generation going in the bag next time.
Always played Mizuno got 241/245 combo set ..best irons I’ve ever hit ..and tighter dispersion .. like lasers ..now looking forward to playing again
I loved the 225s, but got my hands on some 245s and just WOW
Lucky enough to be bagging the 225s myself and I get the bag appeal of the 245. They certainly pass the eye test. You can see the wheels turning there in Luke’s head. More important decision than his Ryder cup captains picks…
I was lucky enough to visit the Mizuno European Tour truck during a fitting at a local fitting warehouse..
Amazing experience and I was fitted for the 245s .
Amazing feel and consistency of flight and dispersion
Just got fitted for irons after playing my previous set for nearly 25 years. Went through six different heads, including 243 and 245. I hit the 243s the most consistently, and I was having a bad day in terms of ball striking in the simulator. 245s were a bit chunky for my taste, but they slapp. Once I got the 243 linked up with the right shaft and length, it was money all day long. L-R and Distance dispersion were tasty, if it translates to the course I'm going to be dropping lawn darts with the scoring irons. Waiting a week or so for them to get built and hoping there's enough season left to get out for a few rounds. Big Ups to Mizuno for doing the near-impossible: staying true to traditional and history while pushing the technological envelop and infusing those engineering benefits into the kit.
During last weeks New Orleans tournament Mitchell was still hitting his 221’s. Same club I hit and will never change 🇯🇵
I miss the times when gmgolf and grant were sponsored by mizuno. Garrett seemed to be a better player then
So jealous! I've been playing my JPX 825 Pro irons since new in 2014, and just can't wear them out! I'd love to play those new 245s just to enjoy the feel. I can dream.
I've had the JPX 900S for about 5 years and you are right, it's hard to wear these out. But yes I want those 245s
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I have the 225’s got fit at TXG and I didn’t think Mizuno could improve upon them. I was wrong somehow Mizuno created a smaller footprint that is more forgiving softer feeling and more spin ( I’m a high ball hitter so so stopping power not an issue for me ). I only hit them in store and can’t afford new clubs every year ( every ten years for me) but I have no issues with flyers with my 225’s unless it’s an actual flyer lie. Well done Mizuno the 225’s are the nicest irons I’ve ever owned and you one upped them
Just upgraded from my MX-23's to the Pro 245's - I love them! I'll never play a different iron
That's sorted next set of irons...adding spin to 245's - yes!!
Great demo of player and club capability
I went from MP 20 SEL to MP 241. Mizuno irons are so amazing. This is my 8th set of Mizuno irons.
mizuno irons are like butter
Would love to see the same comparisons but with slower swing speed players / higher handicaps
I need a link to those Luke Donald shoes ASAP!
Absolutely love my MP-18 MBs. Can't imagine anything better.
I really want to get a 241/245 combo set. I play hogan apex 50th anniversary irons now with 7.0 but they are way to strong for me now. I just turned 50 and have lost over 30mph swing speed in the last 5 years. Injuries and age slowing me down now bigtime. I want a new set with the ust recoil 95 graphite shafts in a regular flex. These irons with those shafts are so much easier on the body, just feels so smooth and soft. I felt alot better after a large bucket then i normally do hitting mine. Trying to save up now
You need some shot tracer on these vids to take them to the next level. Def need more vids like these with the guys talking shop.
We’ve had a few - this one seems to appeal the most.
Mitchell throwing knowledge!!!
Hi Mizuno golf
I play Mizuno mp 59 which i love what do you suggest i go to in the 24's?
I'm sure Keith Mitchell's driver headcover is a "tour only", but boy would I love to rock one on my ST-G 220!
Coming soon.
Played a demo set of 241s last week. First ball 6 iron. 3ft. Very accurate. Hit the 243’s and 245’s. I could see a 4 iron in a 245.
Tried to like the JPX 923 but the 241’s are the ticket.
243’s are ok.
Best Mizuno irons of all time! Including the MP 33’s.
Don’t change a thing.
It would have been nice to see tracers of their shots so we could see what the numbers looked like. Especially with Luke.
Nice 👍🏻
Mizuno 245s my new gamers!
Love watching these videos but makes my mp68 blades feel antique in comparison to the modern technology.......
I play MP 60s and have hit everything Mizuno has to offer as well as pretty much everything else out there...I settled on the 245s and I am happy I did.
I have been playing the 221's since they came out a couple of years back but recently re-shafted my old MP4's which I always loved. I think they are a slightly better club. A tiny bit more powerful and the sole is better for me. My 221 9 Iron has also suffering from some chrome flaking/chipping off which is a shame. Makes no difference to performance but never had that happen on my MP4's or MP32's which I played for donkeys years way back when.
Blade design is really to do with sole grind and minute changes in location of the muscle back. It is personal choice. The 245's though do look like an interesting club. Something I might be interested in in a few years when my speed drops off a bit.
I really wanted the 245's to be my irons when I got fitted last year. They are so pretty. I just couldn't get the spin I needed from them. Ended up with Cobra King Tour bent 2 degrees weak.
Right. 245’s have the extra spin!
Went from MP18 blade/SC to JPX 923 Forged. Think I went to too much "help". Which of these do you think would be in the middle of those?
were luke’s lofts bent to traditional? if yes, did the extra bounce require any tweaking?
I've heard he went 4⁰ weak. I'd be surprised if he didn't get a sole grind to reduce some bounce.
Lovely clubs, but why are they £1500 when a set of MP-18s were £750 5 years ago. Have played Mizuno clubs since 1983 but currently cannot justify the cost of any new ones which is a great shame.
You’re right - prices have moved on an uncomfortable amount. Afraid it’s a combo of a lot of other costs into us going up - materials, labour, shipping.
Our money worldwide is almost worthless. 2018 vs 2024 prices are just inflation (or shrinkage of currency value)
And paying Pros doesn’t help
R.I.P Grayson Murray 😔
You can just see the wheels turning in Luke's head.
Hey Mizuno, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made.
I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and repurpose your long videos into highly engaging shorts? I can also make high CTR thumbnails for your channel
keith laughing at the strong lofts 5:20
Currently game the JPX921 hot metal. Getting ready to upgrade my iron set… Would the 245 be the better club to upgrade to or the 923? What’s the difference between the 245 and 923?
Only good answer is to test both. 245 is a little more compact. Might just be which suits your eye.
I would be curious on how are the 245s are with fliers I found with my 225 it was always going long even after I weakened the lofts 2 degrees.
Under control with 245s.
225’s had a problem with low spin
I've been playing mp4s, mp5s and mp30s for ever.
Wondering how much of a difference those would make.
Sidenote: I hit my irons already high enough and I'm not chasing distance.
241s should feel a little softer - due to the copper underlay.
@@mizunogolf1906 Oh ok, I need to try them. Thanks.
As a technical aside - you seem to have flipped the stereo audio onto opposite sides?
We shall inform the editor!
Does anyone know what golf course/range this is?
sea island
@@g_nw thanks
Damn I gotta get me some of that
Was originally gonna get 243’s but now im convinced that there is no reason not to get 245’s
Budget tip… get the takomo 101T irons, same build as the 245. Less than half the price
Ridiculous!
101T is cast not forgde
30 min for three guys to come to a coherent conclusion.
Why rush?
@@mizunogolf1906 why not take all week ..I mean, the clubs are what, $3k for a set?
@@mizunogolf1906 it just looks ridiculous for one golf-club mfg to come out with at least 3 "new" clubs whose basic function is to replace the evil blade design with what looks like a blade but is actually a "game-improvement" design. But wait, again, it's not how they loo that matters :)
it's how they play. Because standing in the clubhouse or on the teebox it's important that your irons look "Tour-level" but after you tee off you want to be on the green or at least on the fairway a chip-shot in front of the green. Not because your clubs are so great! but because you're such a great player.
So your clubs can't look like "obviously you suck but we're going to do the best that we can to help you, without going hybrid or wood""
So what happens if the player is so bad that they can't even hit a game-improvement club well, but still wants their clubs to look like proper blades? Do they need to break 100 to even swing your clubs? Because of course you don't want the company name on irons that are played by bad players. .
Well none of these three guys are bad players, not great players but still not bad, decent Tour pros or at least a Tourpro like player. So they should all play well even with blades. The few mis-hits they have with blades we'll never see because those will be edited-out of any video for mass release. so we never get to see how much they help good players...and we don't get to see how much they help bad players because you aren't going to put bad players in your ads.
so what is the point of this? Just to keep saying Mizuno and 241, 243, 245 etc like a mantra. and gosh how long does that really take
@@mizunogolf1906 what makes a lot more sense but still has obvious pitfalls:
1-get more low-handicap players playing GI equipment.
2-improve the blades just enough to get decent players to rave about how much better they play with them despite the fact that they look almost exactly likek their dads' blades
And I can see that there is some of #2 in this ad. Kinda the point of 3 differrent types. But no matter what Mizuno does, first of all, someone has probably already tried it before and second they certainly can do whatever Mizuno does in the future. And for Chrissakes, who is really going to go out and buy new clubs?
they might go out and buy used clubs.
but how often does the average player change their irons...out of their own pocket? I've been playing for 30 years and I've bought two sets of irons. My current set cost me $100 on ebay 20 years ago.
Would I like to have a 180 yd 7-iron? Sure. is it going to happen? Not any way that I know of. is it going to happen by upgrading to these clubs? Now THAT would make for an interesting ad. Bring in a bunch of players with 20 handicaps and show them the beneit, in real-world numbers, hard data, in switching from their current irons to these new Mizunos. Not that they can pick up 30 yards on a range. That they play significantly better shots on a course, more consistently.
My normal 7 is about 135-145 yds. I put 30 yards on it, that's a big difference. I would also hope that I hit more consistently and score lower, eh? And if not, then what is the point of upgrading.
I wish Keith would consider the 243.
Keith is the Most Handsome Man in Pro Golf and knows what he likes!
Luke is PACKIN
I’m kinda like Keith ..set make up wise only 😂…I have the 225’s down to 4 …then a old school MP-H5 2 iron
245 tricked me! Not that I am complaining.
Bring raw finish!
could the 245 be the best iron for 2024, proof is in the pudding when you have tour pros going on about the most forgiving club in the offering and they all want to use it
They are Actually being Paid to say such things!!
Mizuno Golf! #MyDreamJob
Feels like a Taylormade video but nobody knows what anybody is talking about
I guess mizuno couldn't afford a shot tracer 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
WELL AS USUAL SOMEONE IS PAYING HIM SIMPDE
Obviously the 3 players are on staff with Mizuno - but we’re showing the differences between Mizuno models. No incentive to like one model over another.
225s for me, sweet butter bra!
I like 245 in less loft
4 degrees de lofted , how can we even take it seriously ....
Because that head design needs those lofts. All the 7 irons peak and descend as 7 irons should. Some of us need more help than others - due to head speed, attack angle etc.
Keith born with a 55 yr old body
So, that is what you picked up from this vid!? He will def smoke you´re ass on the course any day of the week.
Stay with the blades Luke. It's not proper golf otherwise.
Also used hickory shafts and feather balls?
@@Juddly05 No, just modern, state-of-the-art blades
@@algernonwolfwhistle6351 then your argument falls apart already.
@@Juddly05 In your mind maybe.
Luke HAS NO POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He lost his game and power 13 years ago.
He is seperated in his body swinging and cant fix it.
he does not know what I know
How many wins do you have on the PGA Tour?