A more proper description of angry and agitated brits, may exist, but I have not yet heard it.... but they did bomb a tea shop, so I can understand why they were so vexed.... I means we threw tea into a harbor, then they demanded our arms and then a war broke out...
Pemberton was slightly out of step with normal British engineering practice, the idea is to design things IN a shed, not AS a shed. At least the thing has enough shelf-space.
I like sheds. I like flying. I'd love a flying shed, although given the size of my garden it would need to be catapult launched and landing might be challenging.
One of the more interesting things to me is how what was considered "high altitude" over the eras. People often point out speed and how it massively improved from WWI to WWII to the cold war. But ceiling did just as much and had as much to do with real performance of aircraft. Maybe a good video topic?
A small observation is that the German Army also operated airships of the Schütte-Lanz type, before handing them over to the German Navy. The Royal Flying Corps was also involved in Zeppelin hunting and later would take up the baton of the defence of London during the Gotha raids. The Royal Navy, whose traditional role was to defend the British Isles, seemed to think that its aircraft were just to be used to defend its bases and instillations when it came to the threat of the bomber. A viewpoint that didn't go down too well with the politicians and contributed in no small way to the creation of the Royal Air Force and its control of naval aviation via the Fleet Air Arm until the "Inskip Award" of 1939 returned its control to the Royal Navy.
Another masterpiece of prose and presentation, you sir are one amazing content creator, one of your best written yet, and what a fascinating and unusual machine for a topic!
@@RemittanceMan007 Farmer,farmer's mums aren't stuff that happened in Norfolk… That would be like me being a twat and reminding everyone that Norwich brought us the Trisha Programme, and Anglia TV in general.
They easily could have achieved the same lift with by using a thicker wing and for less weight to boot. But for some reason these multi-deckers with paper thin wings were all the rage during that time.
The science of aerodynamics was in it's infancy and more an art than a science by this point in time. I am not sure if there were air wind tunnels in use for testing. The thick (internally braced) more efficient wing only started appearing much later in the war. That and suitable materials (ie strong and light) were wood and canvas. A shaped steel wire brace as opposed to a simple rounded wire was considered "high tech" and drag reducing.
This just isnt true. First off aircraft designers' understanding of aerodynamics at the time simply hadn't gotten that far. The wright flyer took its first flight only 10 years prior. Aerodynamics for aircraft was essentially a new field of physics. Most designers of the time were working off of general "hand rules" rather than full knowledge of what they were designing. Secondly having a single thicker wing requires a much stronger wing root structure. Something that is very difficult to achieve with just wood and fabric construction. Even if you were to make a thick wing out of wood it would need a lot of internal reinforcement, so i dont think it would save nearly as much weight as you would think. Some strong evidence that wood was a limiting factor is that thick monoplane designs only started to appear once metal construction became more wide spread. Finally this statement ignores the primary benefit of multi-wing designs being that they provide high lift at low speeds. This is relevant because engines of the time were very weak, so if you were aiming to maximize the range and endurance of an aircraft it was often better to fly at a slower speed where parasite drag had less of an effect. Monoplanes designed with their contemporary understanding of aerodynamics might not have been capable of producing the necessary lift at these low speeds.
this was the "1 wing was nice, 2 was better, so 3 must be better still". "Let's try 4 and see what happens". Unless you're an Italian named Caproni in which case you go straight to 9.
An potential politician joining the armed forces during a conflict, then using influence and means to dodge actual combat and further their own interests? Oh no, surely not Sir! Tell me it isn't so! Ok, I'll cut the sarcasm and pour another Whiskey. Thanks, very interesting, and slightly bizarre. How far aviation evolved during that period.
NPB is both an interesting and controversial character, however he did not dodge combat as such. In November of 1914 Avro 504s of the Royal Naval Air Service bombed Zeppelin sheds at Friedrichshafen on Lake Constance. NPB was very involved in the reconnaissance work for the mission and subsequent planning of it from a site at Belfort in France. As an aside the officer who appointed him in the RNAS, Murray Sueter, succeeded him as a Member of Parliament, for his constituency, when he resigned as an MP after the war.
Pemberton Billing was heavily involved in the 'non pilot' part of the 1914 raid on the Zeppelin sheds on Lake Constance. So not really a combat dodger. Grifter? Yeah. Self interests? Yeah. Also one of those types of people who seem to be more interesting in launching exciting new projects then actually successfully managing them to completion. To be honest I can never work out if he was one history's heroes or villains. Best I can claim is he was definitely 'interesting'.
He also stated that the first prototype was lost "sometime in 2016" :P I guess there's some dyslexia in reading the script or something. Or just a slip, as said below.
@@Jarlerus - Or a Freudian slip. Probably, in his head, he thought radar would have been cool, if it was around, at that time. Of course, even radio technology was pretty primitive, at that time. Morse code, instead of voice, to keep the parts count down. Most of what we consider radio technology wouldn't be developed until after that war.
"It was ultimately destroyed in an accident in 2016. The Exact date was unrecorded because the PB19E never actually received a Royal Naval Air Service serial number." Yeah, back in 2016 we didn't have many ways to track these things.
12:30 the 37 mm shell from a Davis gun, unless it hit a substantial structural element, would have probable been a through and through even the metal skeleton of a Zeppelin would not been enough to cause the fuse to arm. In the end, after various weapons were trialed, such as conventional aircraft like Avro 504 and Sopwith Pups armed with Brock (firework manufacturer) rockets, Anti Zeppelin and Gotha defence concentrated by 1917 on home defence aircraft fitted with modified Vickers Maxim Machine guns in calibre 11 mm Gras (French 1874 to 1885 rifle round) which being large diameter compared to standard .303 in (7.7mm) bullets was modified to carry a lethal incendiary bullet.
One wonders if, while helping to plan the RAF portion of the bombing of Dresden, one the English generals was quite pleased with himself for avenging the tea shop in Great Yarmouth (or thereabouts) he had frequented as a young lad. History is full of the strangest motivations.
So what would you say was the best U.S. air superiority fighter during the 50’s? The saber was quickly outclassed by MiG 17’s and 19’s, and I feel like the super saber wasn’t that good. The 101 had guns. Was it better than the super saber? The 104 was too short range and we didn’t build very many. What did we have that was good before the likes of the f8 crusader?
@@gotanon9659 if you’re referring to the f86 Saber, you’re showing your ignorance. You’re thinking of the saber against MiG 15’s, not 27’s and 19’s. The MiG 15 and saber were equal, but our pilots were better.
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'actively cross' ...love it
A more proper description of angry and agitated brits, may exist, but I have not yet heard it.... but they did bomb a tea shop, so I can understand why they were so vexed.... I means we threw tea into a harbor, then they demanded our arms and then a war broke out...
Nab him
Jab him
Tab him
Grab him
Stop that pigeon now!
😃
Pemberton was slightly out of step with normal British engineering practice, the idea is to design things IN a shed, not AS a shed. At least the thing has enough shelf-space.
I like sheds. I like flying. I'd love a flying shed, although given the size of my garden it would need to be catapult launched and landing might be challenging.
One of the more interesting things to me is how what was considered "high altitude" over the eras. People often point out speed and how it massively improved from WWI to WWII to the cold war. But ceiling did just as much and had as much to do with real performance of aircraft. Maybe a good video topic?
A small observation is that the German Army also operated airships of the Schütte-Lanz type, before handing them over to the German Navy. The Royal Flying Corps was also involved in Zeppelin hunting and later would take up the baton of the defence of London during the Gotha raids. The Royal Navy, whose traditional role was to defend the British Isles, seemed to think that its aircraft were just to be used to defend its bases and instillations when it came to the threat of the bomber. A viewpoint that didn't go down too well with the politicians and contributed in no small way to the creation of the Royal Air Force and its control of naval aviation via the Fleet Air Arm until the "Inskip Award" of 1939 returned its control to the Royal Navy.
Another masterpiece of prose and presentation, you sir are one amazing content creator, one of your best written yet, and what a fascinating and unusual machine for a topic!
As a very proud resident of Norfolk.
Loads of interesting stuff happened in our fine county between the vikings and WW1.
Oh, name one then.
Like that time Mrs. Billingsley's cat corned Mr. Leeder's parakeet. Quite the row ensued trying to save little Miss Tweetums.
@@GrigoriZhukov Nah I want them to name two.
“Farmers, farmer’s mums”
@@RemittanceMan007 Farmer,farmer's mums aren't stuff that happened in Norfolk… That would be like me being a twat and reminding everyone that Norwich brought us the Trisha Programme, and Anglia TV in general.
They easily could have achieved the same lift with by using a thicker wing and for less weight to boot. But for some reason these multi-deckers with paper thin wings were all the rage during that time.
The science of aerodynamics was in it's infancy and more an art than a science by this point in time. I am not sure if there were air wind tunnels in use for testing. The thick (internally braced) more efficient wing only started appearing much later in the war. That and suitable materials (ie strong and light) were wood and canvas. A shaped steel wire brace as opposed to a simple rounded wire was considered "high tech" and drag reducing.
This just isnt true.
First off aircraft designers' understanding of aerodynamics at the time simply hadn't gotten that far. The wright flyer took its first flight only 10 years prior. Aerodynamics for aircraft was essentially a new field of physics. Most designers of the time were working off of general "hand rules" rather than full knowledge of what they were designing.
Secondly having a single thicker wing requires a much stronger wing root structure. Something that is very difficult to achieve with just wood and fabric construction. Even if you were to make a thick wing out of wood it would need a lot of internal reinforcement, so i dont think it would save nearly as much weight as you would think. Some strong evidence that wood was a limiting factor is that thick monoplane designs only started to appear once metal construction became more wide spread.
Finally this statement ignores the primary benefit of multi-wing designs being that they provide high lift at low speeds. This is relevant because engines of the time were very weak, so if you were aiming to maximize the range and endurance of an aircraft it was often better to fly at a slower speed where parasite drag had less of an effect. Monoplanes designed with their contemporary understanding of aerodynamics might not have been capable of producing the necessary lift at these low speeds.
@@gusty9053wind tunnels did exist, but we're rare
this was the "1 wing was nice, 2 was better, so 3 must be better still".
"Let's try 4 and see what happens".
Unless you're an Italian named Caproni in which case you go straight to 9.
09:24 Destroyed in 2016, you say ??!??
That’s what I was about to say.
Who would have thought something made of wood and fabric could be this Metal 😅❤
An potential politician joining the armed forces during a conflict, then using influence and means to dodge actual combat and further their own interests?
Oh no, surely not Sir! Tell me it isn't so!
Ok, I'll cut the sarcasm and pour another Whiskey. Thanks, very interesting, and slightly bizarre. How far aviation evolved during that period.
NPB is both an interesting and controversial character, however he did not dodge combat as such. In November of 1914 Avro 504s of the Royal Naval Air Service bombed Zeppelin sheds at Friedrichshafen on Lake Constance. NPB was very involved in the reconnaissance work for the mission and subsequent planning of it from a site at Belfort in France. As an aside the officer who appointed him in the RNAS, Murray Sueter, succeeded him as a Member of Parliament, for his constituency, when he resigned as an MP after the war.
Pemberton Billing was heavily involved in the 'non pilot' part of the 1914 raid on the Zeppelin sheds on Lake Constance. So not really a combat dodger.
Grifter? Yeah. Self interests? Yeah. Also one of those types of people who seem to be more interesting in launching exciting new projects then actually successfully managing them to completion. To be honest I can never work out if he was one history's heroes or villains. Best I can claim is he was definitely 'interesting'.
To describe this as the Neanderthal ancestor of the Spitfire is an insult to Neanderthals. Perhaps the Australopithacean ancestor of the Spitfire?
Good book telling the story of both Zeppelin & Gotha raids on the UK during WW1 is ‘First Blitz’ by Neil Hanson.
Wow, what a cool warplane, thanks for the video history!
The thing looks like something Snoopy or Bugs Buggy would dogfight against.
I think you meant "radio equipment" not "radar equipment".
Nah they just got that early raygun
He did correct himself with a "radio" caption.
He also stated that the first prototype was lost "sometime in 2016" :P
I guess there's some dyslexia in reading the script or something. Or just a slip, as said below.
@@Jarlerus - Or a Freudian slip. Probably, in his head, he thought radar would have been cool, if it was around, at that time.
Of course, even radio technology was pretty primitive, at that time. Morse code, instead of voice, to keep the parts count down. Most of what we consider radio technology wouldn't be developed until after that war.
"It was ultimately destroyed in an accident in 2016. The Exact date was unrecorded because the PB19E never actually received a Royal Naval Air Service serial number."
Yeah, back in 2016 we didn't have many ways to track these things.
and if you look at the air raid preparations of the time... ladders to get casualties off roofs..
Loving your content dude. Keep it up!
12:30 the 37 mm shell from a Davis gun, unless it hit a substantial structural element, would have probable been a through and through even the metal skeleton of a Zeppelin would not been enough to cause the fuse to arm. In the end, after various weapons were trialed, such as conventional aircraft like Avro 504 and Sopwith Pups armed with Brock (firework manufacturer) rockets, Anti Zeppelin and Gotha defence concentrated by 1917 on home defence aircraft fitted with modified Vickers Maxim Machine guns in calibre 11 mm Gras (French 1874 to 1885 rifle round) which being large diameter compared to standard .303 in (7.7mm) bullets was modified to carry a lethal incendiary bullet.
Did the Knighthawk have a diner along with its other facilities? (No reason for asking...)
This plane looks absolutely insane 😂😂
One wonders if, while helping to plan the RAF portion of the bombing of Dresden, one the English generals was quite pleased with himself for avenging the tea shop in Great Yarmouth (or thereabouts) he had frequented as a young lad. History is full of the strangest motivations.
Communications - a couple of bulbs, a battery, and keys, and you have morse from gunner to pilots
If Homer Simpson took up plane design after his car design stint
Maybe I missed it, but did they ever fly in combat?
Just watched Ed Nash's video on this "THING". Somebody get the bleach. I need to disinfectant my eyes again.
My university campus was bombed by a Zeppelin
So what would you say was the best U.S. air superiority fighter during the 50’s? The saber was quickly outclassed by MiG 17’s and 19’s, and I feel like the super saber wasn’t that good. The 101 had guns. Was it better than the super saber? The 104 was too short range and we didn’t build very many. What did we have that was good before the likes of the f8 crusader?
For being an inferior aircraft it manages to have an equal kill ratio when flown against pilots of equal skills
@@gotanon9659 if you’re referring to the f86 Saber, you’re showing your ignorance. You’re thinking of the saber against MiG 15’s, not 27’s and 19’s. The MiG 15 and saber were equal, but our pilots were better.
09:28 1916
read a book a while a book- ' the first blitz'
First!
Idk how you run your channel, but I thought this title was from a low-end clickbait channel & was about to block it
It was a fair description from the public's point of view at the time.
Would be your loss
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