I miss flying in these, One of my best memories from the past, doing ground radio or roof top on lift jobs then sitting at the open side door on the way home.
Yeah this was a pretty cool opportunity to fly the turbine version. Unfortunately it didn't last long though because they couldn't put me in the seat doing lift work without at least 1500 hours.
Great video as always! I love it when I see some cool helo's come into the airport. I usually have to go over and check out their ride. We have a cherokee 6/260 and when not flying that I right seat in a twin turbo prop 441. Thanks again for the vid.
On the channel you've flown the 58, a Jetranger type, and a H500. Is this like the airlines, do you have to have separate type ratings, or can you just switch between different helicopters? Which is your favorite to fly, the jobs otherwise being equal? Thanks for the upload!
So we're only required to get type ratings if the takeoff weight is over 12,500. Technically the S-58 fits in that category because it's 13,000 lbs but the FAA has pretty much nobody to do type ratings. So they converted this to a J model which limits us on paper to 12,500 lbs. It's hard to pick one because I like them for different reasons. I might say the 206 is my favorite to fly so far. It is a very comfortable helicopter to fly and I felt very in tune with the machine and able to control it really well. The 500 is a responsive ship but those huge floats I had really slowed it down and the engine was a complete dog on power lol. The S58 is probably my second favorite right now because I'm still trying to get used to it again. I don't feel nearly as comfortable flying it just yet. You can definitely feel that extra momentum from the weight so you have to either stay well ahead of it or fly it a bit more aggressive than I like to. It's certainly nice to have the extra engine and the power that comes with it but it also has pretty horrible visibility compared to the other helis I've flown
Well glad I could deliver. I'm working on recording as much as I'm allowed to. I really wish I had more footage from my LIDAR job, it's kinda hard to make a good video off of what I have
I used to, it's just been a hectic year. When I got back from the tuna boat last Halloween, I went to NYC for a few months but left there because I wasn't making enough money to pay my bills. So I went to a job flying LIDAR on power lines but got laid off after three months. So now I'm over here trying to learn this job
@@sinfulldoubt Hi and thanks for sharing these amazing videos. I'm approaching this world and I have a lot of questions about your esperiences; are you available to chat if I send you my contacts? Let me know and thanks in advance!
lovely video mate, great camera work as well. Can you tell me what are the gauges outside of the cockpit there for ? Is it just a redundancy from the one inside that you use when looking out and down, or something completely different ?
Thanks! They're extra gauges that the pilot can use when watching the load. If I remember right, it's got the engine torque, load cell and a caution light that's attached to the master caution
Yeah somehow they got that past the FAA as One power plant with two power sections. As far as I was concerned P&W sell the PT6 as an ENGINE and we had two of them and had to fly it like a twin so…
Probably answering my own question, but I'm assuming the S-58P was a Piston driven engine and this T model means it has a turbine? I had no idea there were different engines in these old girls. After flying both types, is there a huge difference in how they fly and which was your favorite?
Yup! Piston vs turbine. The turbine models are all an STC or modification to the ships with radial engines. Hard to say which one I liked more though. I enjoyed the second engine and how much smoother the T felt. But it's hard to beat that sound coming from a supercharged Radial engine
@@MudHutResident so we don't actually need a type rating for these ships. The FAA has basically nobody capable of giving a type ride in these lol. What they actually did was convert them to JT models which limits us from 13,000 to 12,500 lbs max takeoff
He didn't need to do anything really. He just did all the planning, flew us there and then did the lift job. So he said I can take over and fly us home
I miss flying in these, One of my best memories from the past, doing ground radio or roof top on lift jobs then sitting at the open side door on the way home.
Nice! Who did you work for?
@@sinfulldoubt HI Lift out of Kissimmee Florida.
@@sinfulldoubt They owned N45726 and sold it to St Louis.
I loved flying the s-58t, flew for Okanagan Helicopters in the 70’s. Your video brings back memories.
Small world. I was just learning about them the other week
Hearing the rotors engage is magical everytime.
Almost as good at the sound when the engine lights off
I remember as a kid in the 70's I so wanted to go for a ride in one of these.
Back then I had only ridden in a Bell 47 which I absolutely loved.
Well hopefully this gets you close enough. I'll try to post some more videos
love these, really scratches a good spot in my brain
Yeah these kinda videos seem to do way better than my other stuff, especially music edits
@@sinfulldoubti like those too, shows some pretty cool scenery. but the people are autistic, they demand the pressing of buttons
Neat you got the chance to fly both the radial and turbine S-58 models. I would love to fly the Westland Wessex someday.
Yeah this was a pretty cool opportunity to fly the turbine version. Unfortunately it didn't last long though because they couldn't put me in the seat doing lift work without at least 1500 hours.
What a beautiful helicopter, and those sounds never get old, its amazing! Now I have to go and fly pretend helicopter for a bit!
You into flight sims?
That was intense! Thanks for sharing!
No problem, glad you liked it
Great video as always! I love it when I see some cool helo's come into the airport. I usually have to go over and check out their ride. We have a cherokee 6/260 and when not flying that I right seat in a twin turbo prop 441. Thanks again for the vid.
Those are some sweet airplanes. Glad you liked it though!
I flew with Carson on many occasions in the 58 T what an aircraft
Oh yeah, it's a very unique experience flying one of these
wow fantastic view
where is that location?
This was Northeast of Atlanta GA a ways. Can't remember exactly where
Great video !
Thanks!
that was quite the rotor engagement speed. the apache has a similar system and as a maintainer I never knew why, now I do.
Oh yeah it's pretty different from every other heli I've flown
On the channel you've flown the 58, a Jetranger type, and a H500. Is this like the airlines, do you have to have separate type ratings, or can you just switch between different helicopters? Which is your favorite to fly, the jobs otherwise being equal? Thanks for the upload!
So we're only required to get type ratings if the takeoff weight is over 12,500. Technically the S-58 fits in that category because it's 13,000 lbs but the FAA has pretty much nobody to do type ratings. So they converted this to a J model which limits us on paper to 12,500 lbs.
It's hard to pick one because I like them for different reasons. I might say the 206 is my favorite to fly so far. It is a very comfortable helicopter to fly and I felt very in tune with the machine and able to control it really well. The 500 is a responsive ship but those huge floats I had really slowed it down and the engine was a complete dog on power lol. The S58 is probably my second favorite right now because I'm still trying to get used to it again. I don't feel nearly as comfortable flying it just yet. You can definitely feel that extra momentum from the weight so you have to either stay well ahead of it or fly it a bit more aggressive than I like to. It's certainly nice to have the extra engine and the power that comes with it but it also has pretty horrible visibility compared to the other helis I've flown
Nice one! Thanks!!
Thanks! Glad your enjoyed it
Waited so long for a new video
Well glad I could deliver. I'm working on recording as much as I'm allowed to. I really wish I had more footage from my LIDAR job, it's kinda hard to make a good video off of what I have
I see you post a variety of different flights. Are you working different jobs seasonally?
I used to, it's just been a hectic year. When I got back from the tuna boat last Halloween, I went to NYC for a few months but left there because I wasn't making enough money to pay my bills. So I went to a job flying LIDAR on power lines but got laid off after three months. So now I'm over here trying to learn this job
@@sinfulldoubt Hi and thanks for sharing these amazing videos.
I'm approaching this world and I have a lot of questions about your esperiences; are you available to chat if I send you my contacts? Let me know and thanks in advance!
lovely video mate, great camera work as well. Can you tell me what are the gauges outside of the cockpit there for ? Is it just a redundancy from the one inside that you use when looking out and down, or something completely different ?
Thanks! They're extra gauges that the pilot can use when watching the load. If I remember right, it's got the engine torque, load cell and a caution light that's attached to the master caution
@@sinfulldoubt that's what I assumed but wasn't sure, thanks for your answer !
Our voices sound the same and that really threw me off. Hello voice brother!
🤣 hello voice brother
Do you need a new rating for each different helicopter that you fly? I enjoy your channel and really like your style of editing.
Thanks! We don't in the US unless that aircraft has a max takeoff weight over 12,500 lbs
Didnt know the 58T was a twin turbine. Are the engines both in the nose section?
Yup! It's not really a true twin because both engines combine into one driveshaft though. But operationally is pretty similar at least
Yeah somehow they got that past the FAA as One power plant with two power sections. As far as I was concerned P&W sell the PT6 as an ENGINE and we had two of them and had to fly it like a twin so…
Probably answering my own question, but I'm assuming the S-58P was a Piston driven engine and this T model means it has a turbine? I had no idea there were different engines in these old girls. After flying both types, is there a huge difference in how they fly and which was your favorite?
Yup! Piston vs turbine. The turbine models are all an STC or modification to the ships with radial engines. Hard to say which one I liked more though. I enjoyed the second engine and how much smoother the T felt. But it's hard to beat that sound coming from a supercharged Radial engine
This is like driving an old manual car
What sort of job is this? And what region? The area you flew over towards the end looks like one of the Ocoee dams in Tennessee.
It's an aerial crane company. We mostly operate in the Southeast. This job was up around Tallulah Falls in Georgia
@@sinfulldoubt ooooooh. looking forward to more videos. hope to get into that field at some point in life lol.
I thought that looked like the Tallulah Gorge area. Nice!
Marine and Army Aviation Classic
Oh yeah, it's a cool piece of history to fly
with the s-58t no longer in military service how/where do you receive training?
It's just on the job training
Thanks for replying!
What type rating do you need to start on the job training?@@sinfulldoubt
@@MudHutResident so we don't actually need a type rating for these ships. The FAA has basically nobody capable of giving a type ride in these lol. What they actually did was convert them to JT models which limits us from 13,000 to 12,500 lbs max takeoff
Does the crew chief fly in the belly?
Yup!
Too short. Way too short. Plz give us more ! ❤❤
I'll have more up as I get some more flying in. I'm working on filming on our jobs but we don't have super steady work
Does anyone fly these anymore?
Yeah there's a handful a companies still using these
The chief pilot that didnt do shit?
He didn't need to do anything really. He just did all the planning, flew us there and then did the lift job. So he said I can take over and fly us home
cool helo
Definitely is
*_"Sikorsky Shuffle"?_*
Yeah these blades have a lot of lead/lag movement and if you're not quick on the throttle, the imbalance on the blades will really throw you around