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what was your favourite part of the performance? 👀
everything🥰
Everything! Also do you know en- and txt are gonna collab for an award show!!
The amazing dance breaks and that part during $♡ when Yeonjun goes 👁👅👁
when yeonjun disappeared in the dance !
Yeonjun's backward running!!!(?)
The poem "Monday's Child" also has to do with fortune-telling which reminds me of the scene in 'Frost' where they interact with the figure in the tent. That scene has a fortune-telling vibe.
The title of this video is a whole on mood for moas 😵💫😵💫😵💫
WE JUST GOT MINISODE THURSDAYS CHILD OH MY GOOOODDD
Just here after they posted their new comeback. Minesode 2. Thursday's child
now that you mentioned txt's pop up book and that sinkhole, in their pop up book, there's a page with Yeonjun holding Taehyun's hand so he doesn't fall into what looks like a sinkhole(these are just my guesses bases on the horns on one of the boys' heads and the hair colour of the other). Since that book is literally called "the tale of the magic island" im going to assume that the sinkhole is on magic island.
The screen said "sinkhole on ttukseom island", and Ttukseom island relates to this in the fact that you have to travel to ttukseom park to get to magic island. now I wonder if the boys will still be able to travel to magic island because of the sinkhole there, and what it's doing to everything around it
Also, there's a dragon(that might be the same one in the "the doom's night" animation but i'm not 100% sure about that) on the page right before it, so i feel like that dragon has something to do with that sinkhole
its beomgyu not taehyun!!
I do believe that the potential next minisode is going to be related to aurora, especially since the minisode: blue hour was centered around sky too. Since the text is long, maybe it's going to be the title of a title track? I also liked your note about aurora taking place at night. If TXT are going to go with the sky and time of the day motif, using aurora would make a lot of sense storyline-wise. They've been in chaos, which happens at night, and aurora can be seen close to magnetic poles of Earth - ice motif. It could represent a beautiful moment amidst cold and severe environment. But it's something we've already seen during TCC eras. Minisode 1 covered themes we were familiar with along with hints for a new chapter as well. Then, the hints were about them (especially Beomgyu) slowly accepting reality. Now that the reality has been acknowledged, what's next? Here are my guesses: the crossed W doesn't leave much hope for TXT's reunion, neither does the fact that their warm moment was presumably fake and short. The melted ice is going to become a flood for them. Maybe we'll get another Chaos Chapter before minisode 2 comes? I do think so. Especially since after the night, morning comes and minisodes are all about transition.
This whole comment is a bit chaotic since I typed out my unorganised thoughts, but I hope it's understandable enough:).
U kinda predicted the future since the next album the name chapter concept trailer is similar to blue hour vibes haha
idk if u saw but there was this kmoa who theorized that yeonjun is thursday’s child bc predebut when their intro videos (or questioning films, i forgot) were released, the one released on a thursday was his video.
but i kinda do agree with moa being thursday’s child bc we kinda suck at saving them in the +u…
ooh and btw noze is currently a participant of a show called ‘street woman fighter’ which is really popular in sokor rn and earlier gained popularity after appearing in exo kai’s ‘mmmh’ promotions as a backup dancer :D
anw get well soon laina
i never saw that theory but it could be interesting! i think the intro videos are actually way more relevant than they seem so makes sense haha
and thanks for the info on noze! 👀👀
DUDE ALSO YEONJUN MAKING HIS IG ACCOUNT ON A THURSDAY-?
@@leuserwithadollarsign yes...very suspicious
I don't even know what I am saying....but the whole thing with TXT using fire and ice reminds me of the poem FIRE and ICE by Robert Frost. In it fire and ice represents the two extreme sides of human emotions which can lead to the end of the world. Fire is for extreme obsession and materialism whereas ice is for apathy and indifference. Both of these opposite emotions when in extreme can lead to chaos and emminent end of the world.
It was in my school syllabus in middle school (maybe)
also i just found out that harry potter was also born on a thursday, yeonjun and harry being a cursed child 🤝
They are cursed to literally have th baddest luck really.. ^^
For the next album I have an idea. We had a trilogy in the form of the dream chapter. In the Star album they seemed to be very young and childlike and things were mostly pretty happy and chill. In the magic one we saw them slowly becoming sad and restless with the idea of growing up. And in the Eternity album we saw that their friendship was breaking apart as seen in the Can't you see me and Drama MV and they were trying to make it better again. So this trilogy showed the "before" part of their story and then things started going downhill. Then we had the Minisode:1 as a transition and we saw that they were desperate to make things normal again. So I think that the Chaos chapter will also be a trilogy which means that we still have one more album left. In the freeze and the FOE albums we can see that now things are getting much more urgent and their actions are now having very serious consequences. We also see them slowly making more and more morally questionable choices and the story is getting darker. So I think that by the last album of this chapter things will become really bad. If we look at these albums carefully we can notice that this is a procession often seen in fairytales. If that is true then we'll most probably have another Minisode after the last album of this chapter as a transition to the next phase. Then we can expect to see the climax in the next chapter if we continue this fairytale parallel or we can see the purification process if we go on the self actualization path. Whatever happens I'm really excited to see it!!!
when I saw Yeonjun's mask, it reminded me of cards (with the heart and also a look that resembles the Joker), and it made me think of how in the Frost mv they ended up with the player cards that were designed for them specifically. It might link to how Yeonjun has only died since being involved with the cat, or being involved in the "game".
Further, the days of the week nursery rhymes reminded me of each era.
"Monday's child is fair of face" - this to me just reminds me of being young and innocent and in TDC:Star, they were depicted as young children (especially in NOAS)
"Tuesdays child is full of grace" this can represent the beauty of magic and having magical power. TDC:Magic showed how the members were having fun and using magic to stay young and keep their fun memories for as long as they could.
"Wednesday's child is full of woe" - This can very obviously represent TDC:Eternity, because this in the eras has had the impactful turning point, going from things that are generally positive to something more on the negative side. In Eternity, all the members are upset and they don't understand each other anymore. Especially in this case, Beomgyu is represented as being upset (especially in the Drama MV), as well Yeonjun, as this is the first era where we see his death (Eternally MV).
"Thursday's child has far to go" - Minisode 1: Blue Hour can represent the long transition into adulthood, as well as their journey to magic Island specifically, a place that is said to be far away from reality.
"Friday's child is loving and giving" - TCC:Freeze, very well depicts the loving side of the members. the title track is "0X1=LOVESONG", and it even has lines of "I know I LOVE you" and "I GIVE all of you". (possibly directly representing the rhyme?)
"Saturday's child works hard for a living" - TCC:Fight or Escape, very obvious with the reference to working and money, as Huening Kai is seen working at his job in the MV, and the line in the song of "Lover with a dollar sign is a loser".
"But the child born on the Sabbath Day,
Is fair and wise and good in every way." - this could possibly represent the next era. Maybe we can finally get an era where they are just happy again 😭
But this is just speculation, and I'm excited with whatever they will end up having next!
late here, but in freeze album concept photos Yeonjun also had a joker earring
@@manasihegde9044 VERY TRUE
(5:48) once you talked abt that i started thinking abt him going through the mirror in the frost mv. and then they show that one part of him smirking in one of the glass pieces
omggg thank you for hearting 🤭🤭❤️
Just a random thought. What if the entire "Thursday's child has far to go" thing is either:
A.) Telling us that the boys (in +u) have a lot to go in their journey through life since adulthood is a very long journey and they've just become adults.
B.) Following the TXT trademark AKA a long ass song title 🤡
I will choose the B thing, because I don't want to become clown again...🤡
I interpreted the mask death as a pretence death because someone clearly doesn’t want yeonjun alive. He fakes his death for the cat probably.
as soon as me and my sister saw the 'thursday's child has far to go' my first instinct was to go check other hybe artists's debut dates. we started with enhypen and they debuted on a monday (november 30, 2020). so then me and my sister checked gfriend's debut date (january 15, 2015) which happens to land on a THURSDAY. it's funny because we have a theory that txt are actually gfriend's children soooooooo...... just a thought :)
You just gave goosebumps thx
i feel like the ending pose in the dance is very intentional, i think the liars (soobin and taehyun) were maybe found out !!
I'm pretty sure the mask references Lo$er=Lover because one side has tears, the other a heart. I can't unsee that Can't you see me move now! Really insightful about the Thursday hint! Love your vids.
Yes you are right!! i also thought that Noze was the moa representation..! The way all the members turned there head towards her was as if they are "Looking forward" to her to help them or seeking her help in the future... (Thrusday's child has far to go) it definitely means that Moas have a lot more chaos to experience in the near future..?👀
Btw this video was really awesome!! thankyou for all your updates and videos!! I love you
its interesting how auroras are caused by the sun,, which relates to the whole concept of freezing and heat,, melting.
so cute how you called him "our Kai" ♡
I'm fully convinced that Yeonjun's solo is coming soon😂 He's the only one with insta ac and his first post was on Thursday
when you told us about cysm choreo... ugh your mind, i could never! i think you're totally right.
will the next album maybe be 'minisode 2: thursday child has far to go'?
i hope you get better soon!
My favourite part of the year-end awards is MMA.
My favourite part of MMA is TXT's Outro. Each year.
True, TXT are so relatable in their magical universe.... I can't wish for more. Maybe only fro their next comeback!
15:26 Laina amazes.... We really have to review the memory of previous choreos, the keys can we literally anywhere
I just recently got into txt and I loved the performance! Another grp to theorize abt!
12 years old Sri Lankan little girl watching your all videos every day every night.... Sometimes it feels scary
Could the flower be a reference to Scintilla, since we've not heard anything about their fictional flower in a while.
my guess for ‘thursday’s child has far to go’ is it could be abbreviations (?) of the new album name? i’m not fully sure, but if you take the first letters of each word ( excluding ‘to,’ since it wasn’t capitalized in the text ) it would become TCHFG, which then could be TC:HFG or TCH:FG? again, i’m not fully sure if it does have anything to do with the next album name, just my guess :)
so this is thursday's child minisode omg
A quick alien theory. In the run away MV, we saw a spaceship taking away the bear, which represents the members pain.
And in the movie it, the clown is an alien in the form of a clown, eating the soul of children.
We know that the cat uses txt's pains against them, can take the form of several different objects or creatures even, and basically made seokjin and jungkook sell them their souls.
So what if it means the cat is an alien?
ruclips.net/video/24iIKpnmILk/видео.html 0:28 laina you missed something, in the intro where Soobin is still doing a voice over txt referenced eternally with Taehyun yelling yeonjuns name, Soobin kneeling down crying, Beomgyu looking through the door, yeonjun watching his body and kai stepping on the clear floor in the sky.
Laina thank you for making this video for us and get well soon💜
Minisode 2: the Thursday child and The Aurora chapter: or The Aurora chapter: the Thursday child
damn youre the closest I've seen to someone getting the next album title right
@@mixx1pixx1 IK- I WAS SO PROUD ABOUT HOW CLOSE
I WAS
Girl my head us aching oh.my.god.
It's almost 12am here and I've watched all of your videos of gfriend, bts, enhypen and txt since yesterday night, and I woke up 6am today to be able watch everything and I just finished and OHMYGOD my head literally hurts and I'm so excited for fucks sake. Now I'll watch your videos about webtoons and then I'll sleep lmao. THANK YOU FOR THIS OMG I feel like I need to pay you a dinner one day
I saw a theory that Yeonjun is the Thursday child because when he posts on instagram, it’s always on Thrusday. Kai maybe is the Monday child, as he posts on Monday. No sure if this is true but i think it makes sense
I am late but there is a game called persona
It REALLY matches txt theory line
In that 1 aspect states info about
DARK HOUR , so according to the storyline of txt +persona seasons
The next minisode might be
Minisode 2 : DARKHOUR
Omg if you’re not in our discord you would love it there since we were talking about persona in the txt theory chat! (For the record I LOVE the persona games!!)
I don’t know how direct they would reference it but dark hour definitely fits in with txts theme!
I do think the similarity could be coincidental tho because persona takes a lot of inspiration from jungian psychology, which txt also takes inspiration from! But we’ll see… it would be AWESOME if they reference persona tho… 👀👀👀👀
@@LainaSunflower I am the very theorist in your server who gave that theory 😂😂
Hello Laina! Hope your well and safe.
I know this is really random and not about the performance, but when you talked about Holes, it reminded me of Alice in Wonderland where she goes down the rabbit hole and ends up in wonderland. Just like how TXT uses different Magical ways to get to Magic Island? I thought that was a cool connection.
But sorry if that was random and didn’t make sense,it’s late at night.
Stay Safe:)
About the next chapter: I think Aurora would be most likely. I also just watched the performance and the suit dance feels more like an inner fight… almost like an exorcism? So purification isn’t that off. Like inner struggles. A bit like the head shaking scene in can’t you see my me.
thank you for this laina!!💕
take careee of yourself!!🥰
This is so helpful thanks again for making this kind of vid...and yes I love the dance break so muchh
its the love chapter DUHHH
You know Yeonjun dying every time kinda reminded me the film I watched recentlly: The Edge of Tomorrow? For example, from the start Yeonjun is kinda stronger, and the main character in film is higher in rank. Then the main character knows the truth and Yeonjun too because of cat? I think the cat can represent us the alpha monster(mimic). Then he see himself dying in Eternally, in my opinion there is where all the chaos starting, then he tries to tell others that something bad is going on like the main character, but he continue to die and the day/life is going back. Then the character meet that woman and I think show MOA? Because the woman in the film saved the world once, and MOA is representing the ghost, saver. Then in the film they try together, and Yeonjun tries again, but it continues. Then he tries to stop and do nothing, like in the film, but dies accidently, in the filmm because of mimic, in the storyline car accident in loser lover. After the death continues, the character tries to do the mission himself and find out that it is a lie, so Yeonjun needs to try to save the members and himself without Moas or cats idk help. And the film has open ending, so t+ will have it too. Yes, it is obviously that things got better, but we don't know what happens further till the REAL dying of them?
Get well soon Laina💙💙 you are loved💙💙
i had a theory on the run away mv, when i first saw it i realized that in previous mv's it seemed like fire was revolved around yeonjun... like in the can't you see me mv he says "shh" while the fire flared up in the oven, he was also making cookies. After the whole house was on fire? and in the magic island mv he was in the center of it all and looked guilty, he also opened his eyes when he wasn't supposed to when they were traveling to magic island by train (which was also seen in frost mv the train station). In the beginning of runaway he also set the fire on the book he was cutting out with his glasses by accident and when beomgyu put the fire out it was still burning. This was also seen in the beginning of can't you see me! At the end of run away he put on the glasses and then the door caught fire? I was just wondering what that was all about
Yeah THURSDAY'S CHILD let's go!!!!
Do you guys remember a performance of bts's fake love at the end of the performance they all put on a mask, like the one yeonjun putted on at the end of the performance at MAMA 2021, i think there's a connection between the two
i thought something different about the "w" letter at the begining. as you look through the lines in the "w" letter, you can see there are five ends -idk the word just look to the endpoints of each line finish- and i think they sembolize txt. but the "w" that we see at the begining has one line that divides the letter from the middle. as it divides, it now turns out as three endpoints on the top and two endpoints at the bottom. so i think the two points sembolize two liars. it can be a reference to cysm mv.
waaa this was so interesting!! I instantly thought of you when i saw the mma performance JANSKXASJ thank you so much as always ♥️ i hadn't noticed the mask thing in can't you see me and now i can't stop seeing it JNAXJNASKJXN i'm so so so excited for all of the videos you're planning on doing 🥰 i hope you feel good soon 🥺 thank you thank you
THIS GIRL COULD ACTUALLY WORK 4 BIGHIT OF HYBE LITERALLY IM SERIOUS 🧐 SHE S SMARTT 😄
Also, Questioning Film of Yeonjun (if I'm not mistaken) was uploaded on Thursday... SOOOOOOOOOO
Love your vid
I'm excited there is a txt comeback
What if their next title is something on the line of "₩inner" with the ₩ as the Won symble?
Or something like ₩inner = something since their recent titles follow the "=" rule?
0×1 = Lovesong
Lo$er = Lo♡er
So idk maybe that's something, and it also ties in that Jung theory you mentioned, cause winning means going into the Albedo phase, although it seems a little too soon to go on the bright side when there's so much to solve, so that's practically impossible
That ruined ancient palace in the background in the beginning looks REALLY, REALLY like Perspolis...im kinda sure its that, don't know if its just a random picture or has got something to do with the story and all
Love you, thank you for this & feel better dear💜💜💜🌻🌻🌻🥰🥰🥰
i was waiting for this cndjdnkss i was going insane watching the performance and waiting for your thoughts
Question! So Noze ( the guest) is representing the Moa? Like in Loser = Lover mv, Different girls were shown with each of the boys, but in previous mvs Moa was shown as a ghost. So whats the actual role of Noze? Is she moa or another character trying to help txt?
i think shes just meant to represent MOA in this case! same as the girls in loser=lover!
9:20 maybe that it a reference to cant you see me, the only difference is before they couldn't see each other and now they can't see moa, So I'm predicting there will be a song called "I can't see you" (or something like that), In the future to parallel cysm
omg same i am kinda sick too ;n; (i like the emoticons you use :D)
Noze is comfiremed to be at the MAMAs as part of Street Woman Fighter so Iwonder if we'll get a continuation there
Also the set at about 4:30 in the background kinda looked like a mask to me
17:05 the effects of the aurora says the same line Thursday's Child Has Far to Go.
Your voice is like mine, I was sick but I think now it's better. Hope you are okay. 💜
heeeey todays thursday what a coincidence lol
How many times has Yeonjun died? Because maybe this is representing his possession by the cat and he needs to die 9 times to kill the cat. Just a wild guess.
Ooooh love that theory! Also, 3. 4 if you count the MMA outro
wwaaa!
It might indeed be Jun tho, like, the Thursday children cuz that's literally the day he always makes his posts on 👀
Like Hyuka is Monday and all
Hi omg I'm early
Same but I was busy finishing this vid...
Background castle could also be HCA’s Snow Queen’s Castle. 🤔
Which you mention 2 seconds later in your video. 🤦♀️
Albedo and alchemy reminded of genshin impact-
the best character in genshin impact 😌
I don’t think that it’s a hint for the next minisode but for the next chapter. Minisodes are outside of the story and last time they didn’t hint the minisode but they chaos chapter.
when they did the performance where the chaos chapter was revealed blue hour had already come out 😊
The hole reminds me more of the hole in the book.
Don't that we is actually me, bcs they've been post many tiktoks with the end of the caption is 'me'
See I saw that tweet saying that but when I checked their tiktok I couldn’t find any recent that had “we” in the caption at all 😭
im new to txt and i want to know everything about the txt universe from the start, does anyone know if theres a good thread about it or video?
Laina has very good theory’s so you should just check out the channel
I can't wait for next year.. And I wonder does the webtoon will have references to the actual storyline of TXT and Enhypen and for me not gonna deal with BTS theory because it is way out of my last 2 braincells's league. But it's weird. TXT's webtoon is set on similar high teen type webtoon with critizing the government or something like that, and Enhypen one have the vampire one. Which is a bit off to me because Enhypen is the one who is tackling both of these more obviously that TXT who focuses more on their storyline of the promise and yada yada yada.... Anywho, can't wait for next year and Enhypen comeback and the webtoon releases... And Laina, imma give you a warning for making these videos while you're sick. You're supposed to rest yet you make these videos just to kill our curiosity intensifying... Much love for you, Laina and do not make videos while youre sick again. This is my warning. ^^
I ... I believe these theories could be correct because I was making predictions a few days ago. Don't take this seriously because it will only be said in the future, but I have a feeling that something will be related to manipulation because look ... a mask can represent their fake persona (more precisely, putting on a fake mask while hiding their true emotions) ... of course logical is that the concept will be the same as the last comeback. I don’t know but I have a feeling we share the same opinions
16:25 hate to one that ask but where did you get that book (btw i get to know txt for 4-5 mounths)
it was from weverse! but it’s been sold out for a long time ):
YOO NOZE COLLABED WITH TXT?
shouldn't there be 3 chapters regarding, "the chaos chapter," like the was for, " the dream chapter," I it think there's going to be one more and than a minisode 2.
I saw somewhere that the members mentioned-possibly during a Vlive-that F.O.E was the last part in TCC, so idk. Fight or Escape was a repackage so it’s likely that was the last installment
"THURSDAY"
August 22, 2019 was when Big Hit announced TXT's fandom name, which is THURSDAY.
Is it a coincidence?
ENHYPEN Performance analysis please?!
As I said at the end, it’s on the way!
Laina did you notice that when the girl comes (MOA) and the camera focused at her shoulder maybe ? and i saw a crown drew over there maybe that was a tattoo or something but there was ''crown'' so does that means it relates to their debut ''CROWN'' ? idk if it makes sense tho , i'm just saying what i saw. lol
ruclips.net/video/3mcbCnKBIh4/видео.html
at 4:23👆
Aurora or aura
Aurora!
Hey Laina , idk but somehow i find the one part of choreo like ''CAN'T YOU SEE ME's choreo , not the one which you said in this video but another part .
ruclips.net/video/3mcbCnKBIh4/видео.html
8:35 👆 when the lyrics come like ''Crumbled sand castle, who’s a liar'' (SOOBIN'S PART)