Zhu Yuan works well with a stun and support so if qingyi is her stun in a team the team would be substantially stronger so yes if you care but really you can chill with andy since she's so versatile
I didn’t use Anby when my only five star was Soldier 11. But I have Zhu Yuan now, and the game feels drastically different when I’m not spamming as fast as I can with my other teammates to try to stun so I can focus on S11’s timing 😂 I would recommend using stun units generally and I think you’re right, though I also recognize it’s going to be hard to get Qingyi if you went for Zhu Yuan and don’t pay 😔
Ya true that’s a pretty big obstacle to get both Zhu Yuan and Qingyi. The game give a decent amount of currency in the beginning so if you win 50/50 you can pull it off but otherwise they want you to spend
Qingyi style looks really sick, Her attacks look really satisfying to land as well but im kinda indifferent towards her, And since I got Lycon as my first ever pull in the game, She hold low value on my account even for my Zhu, i'll just slot in Koleda or a future limited daze unit when I get either, And for now im completely fine with using Anby&Nicole. And besides, Anby can stun faster, She just won't contribute to the stun scaling after you stun the enemy as much as Qingyi. So I think ima just save up my polys and skip to the next banner.
Stun units are not necessary. There are dps units that benefit from enemies being stunned and have short field time, like zhu yuan and corin. Some dps units have a lot of their dmg focused in 'burst' like ultimate and EX, in the case of billy. And some units have some benefit from enemies being stunned but have a longer field time, like soldier 11. Those characters will want a stunner that will have long or short field time depending on what the dps wants ideally. But not every dps needs a stunner. Ellen doesn't need a stunner, nekomata doesn't need a stunner either, and the only characters that benefit most from qingyi currently are zhu yuan, corin and billy. You could make an argument for anton, but he's a special case.
I have to disagree. Despite even in the video you can see me using Ellen without a stunner it’s still optimal to use her with one. People might only say that because the content isn’t hard enough yet and they can brute force it. But stunning an enemy is a guaranteed damage window. It’s just that some units benefit from that damage window more than others. But in more challenging content almost all DPS want that stun. Especially if the stun can amplify damage.
@@AnimeGeniussGaming she benefits from lycaon, but she doesn't benefit from anby or koleda over just using another support or any character that supports her damage, if you spend most of the time on ellen you'll do more damage over time, that's just the way it is
On paper sure but in practice having the enemy immobilized and taking heightened damage can and most likely will lead to faster clear times in higher level content. It’s theory vs theory but I believe in due time the difference will become more apparent
@@AnimeGeniussGaming it's not a theory, it's how it is, there's evidence on that. the point I'm trying to make is that stun units aren't necessary because of that. you can prefer to play with a stun unit because it's more comfortable or you enjoy that gameplay better, but it doesn't make it a necessity for players
I’m not trying to imply what’s a necessity. It’s a hoyo game so brute forcing can definitely win. I’m trying to pinpoint what’s optimal. And people that are struggling want to know what’s optimal. So if you’re saying no stun unit is optimal that’s a theory. Theories should have evidence but that’s not the end of it. We’re in 1.0 so I’m not trying to speak objectively but guaranteed damage windows has shown to be more advantageous than an extra support buff. We’ll see as time goes on but until we get cracked limited supports, stun units are preferable imo (1 stun and 1 support)
Huh that's an interesting point. But i think i disagree, at least as of now. I can't really describe it but i just have a gut feeling she's gonna turn into a Loucha type of situation where she's still good but was so heavily powercrept within a couple versions. I may be wrong though. But as of now she's a skip for me. Good luck everyone who is going for her though
fr, I agree with your take. And here there is no upside of being extremely SP positive like Loucha which basically what holds him in place to this day along side his VERY accessible healing, as someone who got him day 1 and still used him up until a few days ago (I recently quit HSR).
I'm going to claim that I don't care for qingyi because i like my clicky clicky with a variety of moves. So I'm probably pulling jane doe to make me an anomaly team of grace, jane, and whatever fits for the third slot while taking my chances for getting lycoan or koleda unless I try the demo and love it
Zhu Yuan works well with a stun and support so if qingyi is her stun in a team the team would be substantially stronger so yes if you care but really you can chill with andy since she's so versatile
Ya Anby being so good makes me fear how good stun units will be in the future
I didn’t use Anby when my only five star was Soldier 11. But I have Zhu Yuan now, and the game feels drastically different when I’m not spamming as fast as I can with my other teammates to try to stun so I can focus on S11’s timing 😂 I would recommend using stun units generally and I think you’re right, though I also recognize it’s going to be hard to get Qingyi if you went for Zhu Yuan and don’t pay 😔
Ya true that’s a pretty big obstacle to get both Zhu Yuan and Qingyi. The game give a decent amount of currency in the beginning so if you win 50/50 you can pull it off but otherwise they want you to spend
She's Zhu Yuan police partner....she's a must for sure.
I feel that. Bring the crew together
Qingyi style looks really sick, Her attacks look really satisfying to land as well but im kinda indifferent towards her, And since I got Lycon as my first ever pull in the game, She hold low value on my account even for my Zhu, i'll just slot in Koleda or a future limited daze unit when I get either, And for now im completely fine with using Anby&Nicole.
And besides, Anby can stun faster, She just won't contribute to the stun scaling after you stun the enemy as much as Qingyi.
So I think ima just save up my polys and skip to the next banner.
Ya if you got Lycaon then it’s not a bad idea. Having 2 stuns is the main priority
short answer: no.
Her not being important? I’d say it’s more subjective
@@AnimeGeniussGaming nah, i answered to the thumbnail 😂
Oh lol well true
Stun units are not necessary. There are dps units that benefit from enemies being stunned and have short field time, like zhu yuan and corin. Some dps units have a lot of their dmg focused in 'burst' like ultimate and EX, in the case of billy. And some units have some benefit from enemies being stunned but have a longer field time, like soldier 11. Those characters will want a stunner that will have long or short field time depending on what the dps wants ideally. But not every dps needs a stunner. Ellen doesn't need a stunner, nekomata doesn't need a stunner either, and the only characters that benefit most from qingyi currently are zhu yuan, corin and billy. You could make an argument for anton, but he's a special case.
I have to disagree. Despite even in the video you can see me using Ellen without a stunner it’s still optimal to use her with one. People might only say that because the content isn’t hard enough yet and they can brute force it. But stunning an enemy is a guaranteed damage window. It’s just that some units benefit from that damage window more than others. But in more challenging content almost all DPS want that stun. Especially if the stun can amplify damage.
@@AnimeGeniussGaming she benefits from lycaon, but she doesn't benefit from anby or koleda over just using another support or any character that supports her damage, if you spend most of the time on ellen you'll do more damage over time, that's just the way it is
On paper sure but in practice having the enemy immobilized and taking heightened damage can and most likely will lead to faster clear times in higher level content. It’s theory vs theory but I believe in due time the difference will become more apparent
@@AnimeGeniussGaming it's not a theory, it's how it is, there's evidence on that. the point I'm trying to make is that stun units aren't necessary because of that. you can prefer to play with a stun unit because it's more comfortable or you enjoy that gameplay better, but it doesn't make it a necessity for players
I’m not trying to imply what’s a necessity. It’s a hoyo game so brute forcing can definitely win. I’m trying to pinpoint what’s optimal. And people that are struggling want to know what’s optimal. So if you’re saying no stun unit is optimal that’s a theory. Theories should have evidence but that’s not the end of it. We’re in 1.0 so I’m not trying to speak objectively but guaranteed damage windows has shown to be more advantageous than an extra support buff. We’ll see as time goes on but until we get cracked limited supports, stun units are preferable imo (1 stun and 1 support)
She may end up being really good, but, AND HEAR ME OUT HERE…
A “bakery” team, consisting of Zhu Yuan, Nicole, and Jane Doe
You might be on to something! Lmao
Huh that's an interesting point. But i think i disagree, at least as of now. I can't really describe it but i just have a gut feeling she's gonna turn into a Loucha type of situation where she's still good but was so heavily powercrept within a couple versions. I may be wrong though. But as of now she's a skip for me. Good luck everyone who is going for her though
I feel you. Only time will tell. As long as you got your stunners
fr, I agree with your take.
And here there is no upside of being extremely SP positive like Loucha which basically what holds him in place to this day along side his VERY accessible healing, as someone who got him day 1 and still used him up until a few days ago (I recently quit HSR).
I'm going to claim that I don't care for qingyi because i like my clicky clicky with a variety of moves. So I'm probably pulling jane doe to make me an anomaly team of grace, jane, and whatever fits for the third slot while taking my chances for getting lycoan or koleda unless I try the demo and love it
Ya I’m hoping to get Grace myself before Jane comes
Idk if I agree
Interesting 🧐