Pastor Michael is obviously not teaching his own beliefs. His style of teaching was perfect for me. I have seen tons of explanations of this stuff and finally I get it. At my age and for the past 17 years I am finally starting to understand that folks from the pulpit haven't been teaching the full truth. Thanks Pastor Michael.
I'm so happy i found out what a preterist is, as i have just started thinking this way from reading Bible and Revelation. And i actually thought there was hardly anyone that thought this way
@@threelittlebirds274 I can always remember thinking as a kid , man I wonder if these ppl just got it wrong because the whole renaissance era seemed to me like Jesus did come back. But everyone around me would say no his 2nd coming is still in the future.
@@threelittlebirds274 I would like to point out that honestly I didn't even know what a preterist was until after reading the Bible and wondering if maybe other ppl have thought maybe the apocalypse has already happened and that's when I stumbled across the peterist view. And while I don't fully believe in everything most preterist believe that all of the events in revelation have already happened, judgment day, new heaven, new earth. This to me seems unlikely since the devil is apparently still in our world. I am more along the lines of what you would call partial preterist. I truly believe that we are in the short season because if you read revelation you will clearly see that mark of beast, apocalypse happen then 2nd coming , 1000 year reign, Satan let loose for short season to once again to deceive the nations ( time that most likely seems to be ours), then the march around the camp of the saints, then judgment day, then new heaven, new earth, here's why I think we are in short season. So how do you know that the apocalypse hasn't happened yet? I spiritually challenge anybody else that is still expecting the tribulation and rapture to still happen to look into this before you answer. Not only are here are many clues that this has already happened but there also has been great lengths to bury our history. Also did you know there are Bible verses? Many of the ppl of Jesus' time thought that he would come back in their life time because they were told that. "Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, EVEN THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. Revelation 1:7 NASB1995" see also Matthew chapter 24 Luke chapter 21 cross referencing also Rev chapter 20. This guy here: ruclips.net/video/-8Kc-httqnE/видео.html is also very helpful, as he has made a video of literally at least 15 or more scriptures and he points out some very interesting things I never thought about, or just overlooked, that are undeniable proofs that the apocalypse already happened that are in the Bible. There are many scriptures that suggest that the kingdom came and went. We are the end, the "short season" Or the "pre judgment " day ppl. Satan has already been bound and let loose and is now deceiving the nations. When the Bible says that the devil is the father of this world, he really is, he's the same lyer that tell us we evolved from apes, and life is meaningless what else should we question that they tell us? Everything! I will also say that This subject is next to impossible to find any information about on google and youtube who love to censor truth so if this interests you and you'd like to look into some of this yourself i can send you more links just let me know. There are many things we are told that just aren't true and once you start looking into what we are told about American history alone is undoubtedly impossible the sheer construction of our modern day cities and buildings, and sewer and subterranean networks all across this plane alone should raise suspicion and anyone that can think for themselves. considering what? That a bunch of pilgrims on horseback are the ones who constructed these cities? Look at huge old buildings like Cathedral of St. John the divine en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Divine of New York City,. Look at this ridiculous narrative that we are given and start asking questions? It's ok to admit that we have all been fooled by the devil but we have to admit that we have been fooled if we want God to give us discernment to know the truth.
@@threelittlebirds274 I know , we all been there because we've all been literally indoctrinated from birth to have this mindset. Look into tartaria also. I didn't want to believe it at first either because I honestly thought that it was a false teaching but once you read the Bible verses and look into a really messed up history and all this stuff that they're hiding yeah it's kind of hard to really make any sense out of it except for this makes the most sense to me could all of us be wrong yeah maybe but it seems to me that this did happen and we are loving in the thousand years after. And honestly if you pray for discernment and ask for the Holy Spirit to show you the truth you really can't be a led astray. The Holy Spirit will show you the truth. And I also pray that I don't tell people things that aren't true
I think the most important question is would Jesus lie. He wouldn’t. So when he told people standing before him that some there would see his return. So he returned.
Huh, He said it's not going to be missed, DO NOT BE DECEIVED, people will say he returned and it was not seen, however it will be like lightning from the east to the west,Rev1:7 says EVERY EYE will see him He said it will be a tribulation like never before nor again And IF those days were not cut short no one would have survived, He also said Many would be taken by surprise Because the master, the husband and whatever other parable he sued to show it will be a long time, You are right though he did NOT lie
That's not what He said. He said that some there would see the Son of Man in Power (paraphrasing) and the very next set of verses He does just that on the Mount of Transfiguration when James, John, and Peter meet Moses, Elijah, and a Glorified Christ.
@@davidkayumy8081 No, it's not referring to the transfiguration. Have a look: *Matthew 16:27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.* *28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.* *Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:* Our Lord says the "some standing here" thing back in chapter 16, which is followed by the transfiguration. Obviously the event still hadn't occurred even up to chapter 25 (as quoted above). It gives the detail about the involvement of angels, which is aditional proof it's not about the transfiguration. Furthermore, the part about him sitting upon the throne. That it fits with preterist idea of Jesus being the current and reigning King presently, diminishing the enemy under his feet. Futurists have Jesus reigning in the future millenium, not now (some even say Satan is ruling the world, which is complete nonsense). Obviously he doesn't ascend to the throne at the transfiguration, he hadn't even gone to the cross yet. *Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.* Note this is also after the transfiguration in chapter 17. He says "when" he shall sit on the throne, showing he hadn't done it yet. Every verse is from Matthew and orderly, these points cannot be refuted.
Every little detail must be taken into consideration. Misinterpreting exist and this is a very serious subject. From what I've seen people that believe that all of that already happened don't believe Jesus is savior because he fulfilled through the second coming. Believing this and being wrong means your soul. My question is why is there still evil in the world? There's people that worship fallen angels and giants there's giants arounr still cults and satanic symbology. Demons are still around too look into any celeb or person that has schizophrenia or you can do satanic prayer like I was forced too and something (I think would be a skin walker) starts following you around. There's a lot of evil still left in the world and it doesn't make sense that God would just leave this place in shambles. There's also weird happenings in the sky and around us. Two moons two suns UFOs black hole suns black suns Red planets blood sky's darkness in the middle of the day. Not only that but a digital currency is on the way same with IDs drivers licenses medical cards..likely all that I just mentioned will be in some way a prerequisite to the mark of the beast. Elon talks about how everyone will have a worldwide income because nobody will be working which proves even further that theyll control our money. You can't talk about Jesus in iseral anymore and they're building a church that'll be the catalyst for the one world religion. The church I'm speaking of houses all 3 Abrahamic religions as one. Everyone is turning into degenerates with only fans porn live leak gore videos people are becoming more violent and numb to empathy. The world economic forum is talking about putting chips in our heads eventually and owning nothing and liking it. By 2050 everyone will be moved into 15 min city that way they can control the masses better. Baphomet statues are being erected everywhere and the entertainers are being more and more obvious with their love for Satan. WW3 is also right around the corner. If nuclear winter sets in then that's when they'll come up with a world wide peace plan the embryo of the one world government ie UN will be in control. That's what I think will happen. In the next few years of ww3 happens I'll no longer take preterism into consideration. There's far too many odd things happening in our world that mind you nobody alive has seen until now that is going down. If you can explain away everything I just said I'll be open to it but all that I've learned points us to revelations
I'm 55 and I've been a preterist from day 1 Probably going to stay that way I am a United Methodist If course I believe people will be judged for their sins if they don't repent But I'm looking forward to the new creation But nobody's going to hell for being a preterist Nobody's going to hell for not being a preterist We just live with less fear, gloom and doom
Five foolish virgins found the door shut for thinking the groom tarry. You have some major facts that put your false doctrines to rest. 1. You can't be serious satan has been bound 1000 years? 2. Millenium = 1000 not 2000. 3. John the revelator was imprisoned on Patmos 25 years after the 70 AD destruction, under Domitian in 95 AD. 4. Isa. 66:8 was fulfilled on May 14, 1948. Rev. 12:1 was in Virgo, bathed in the sun with the moon at her feet with 3 planets in Leo making the 12 stars in the crown. This fulfilled on 9\23\2017 on the Feast of Trumpets. Last time this happened was 4973 BC. Rev. 12:2 is from 70 ad to 5\14\1948. Rev. 12:3 is in the constellation dragon Identifies the dragon as the 7 states that became the Arab League of States. They made a Pact with Hitler to not allow Jews to migrate to Palestine but to burn them instead. Ursa Minor is surrounded by the dragon's tail were the swastika originated. Polars is in Ursa Minor making it the only constellation visible both day and night; Rev. 12:10. Rev. 12:4 and the tail (with swastika) drew (into death camps) the one third (6 million) of the stars of heaven (Jews Gen. 22:17) and did cast them to the earth (gassed and burned) and the dragon stood over the woman (Jacob's children) to devour her child (Newborn Nation of Israel, Isa. 66:8) as soon as it was born (ALS attacked Israel the day it was born)".
One comment. A preterist / post millennial (as I believe per scripture exegesis) doesn’t focus really on the new creation as the next event, but rather advancing the kingdom of God in the earth as commanded in the great commission. Also a preterist does not mean we believe the “entire” book of Revelation was past. Some things are yet to be, such as the final resurrection, final judgement, or the great white throne. But as a whole, Revelation is not about the consummation of all things at the end, but rather the commencement or launching of Christ’s kingdom to all the nations. That is why it concludes with the words “come”. “The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.” This is an invitation going forward to the nations, of which continues today.
Hi Tim, great observation! you're correct that many people who would self-identify as "preterist" do not see the entire book of Revelation as occurring in the past. In fact usually self-identifying preterists will typically divide into two main camps for those who are partial-preterists and full-preterists. One of the key identifiers between these two camps is what happens next in the story line of Revelation. Typically a partial-preterist would see the next event as the launching of Christ's kingdom to all the nations. However a full-preterist would typically see events like the final resurrection, final judgement, and the great white throne as already fulfilled.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch I remember my pastor telling me once, “We are not partial or full Preterist, just Preterist.” For me if everything was past in fulfillment, we wouldn’t need doctors and we wouldn’t need transportation of any kind.
@@jmzsil if Jesus reigned 1000 years I doubt they needed electricity wires, heaters, or even food, because everyone had everything they needed as suggested by the architecture they call tartarian all over the world with a kind of tech that harvested energy from the air, church organs that broadcasting healing cymatics through rose windows, and apparently no need to have an alimentary canal because bathrooms were not found in those tall ceiling structures. People must have been taller too. This season of evil has digestion issues. Yes I have become a Lutheran preterist somehow.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch is there any scripture that appears to support the full preterist notion? To me it would seem that these evens still will take place, the surrounding of the camp, or gog and magog, burned up from fire from heaven, then earth gives up dead great white throne, judgment day i actually thought was all the same day. Then new heaven new earth Jerusalem possibly still all the same day
Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
1 John 2:18 “IT IS THE LAST HOUR” - James 1:8 “The coming of the Lord is near.” - Revelation 6:11 “in a little while”. Let’s trust John and James, the end was back then, “the last hour.” Leviticus 26, Deuteronomy 28 - the curses of the Law were given to the very last OC Law generation.
Good Stuff! It's important to understand there's alot of Poetic Imagery and Apocalyptic language in Revelation. Things which symbolize/signify 1:4 and we must understand it from the hebraic readers perspective as well, what would have it meant to the 7 churches in Asia Minor reading John's letters. A 1000 mathematical years are not permitted within the definitions and usages of shortly (tachos) and at hand/near/soon (eggus). A 1000 yr reign is only used in Chpt 20.So in Revelation either shortly,at hand,near,soon,have to be taken figuratively or A 1000 yrs has to be taken figuratively.Tachos & Eggus are NEVER used figuratively in scripture & A 1000 yrs is virtually ALWAYS used figuratively. Was there ever a promised earthy utopia to be involved with it according to Lk.17:20-21 & Rev.21:1 ,Isa.65:20 involving people dying & sin under the New Heavens & New Earth,as dogs and murderers prowl outside the New Cov.City 22:15.as the nations are still in need of healing 22:2 and evangelism is still going on 22:17 Dan.12:2-3? Had not the Heavenly Jerusalem arrived in the 1st century Heb.12:22? Does not the Kingdom bind the strong man Mt.12:29 Rev.20:2? The Apostle Paul quotes Isa.11:10 in Rom.15:12 there shall be the root of Jesse,and He shall rise TO REIGN over the Gentiles and in Him shall the Gentiles trust! NOTE also that Isaiah states states "AND IN THAT DAY" there shall be the root of Jesse ...What Day? Paul's day,the same day when the wolf,kid calf,lion,fatling,a little child,a cow,a bear,are all getting along fine. The Gentile nations would miraculously be living together w/ the True Jews of Israel (Eph.2:12-14) as the Prince of Peace breaks down every barrier between them.This is how Peter understood the various beasts that they were communicating to the Gentiles in Acts 10! What is the NEW HEAVENS AND EARTH communicate in 21:1? In Duet.32:1 Give ear O yea Heavens O Earth the words of my mouth,Moses is addressing the Cov.people the congregation 31:30 & in Isa.1:2 Jerusalem the Cov.people are being addressed 1:1 ..In Isa.49:13 as well. Mt.5:17-18' Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till HEAVEN and EARTH pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Did Jesus fulfill the law & prophets? Yes! And since He did HEAVEN & EARTH have passed away! That is the Old Cov.law & prophets have passed away and ALL things become NEW in Christ! Jesus is contrasting the Old.Cov.with the New Cov.whos contractual words of the New Cov.will never become dormant and pass away 2Cor.5:17 Rev.21:5 Mt.24:35! Peter exhorts all eyes to be fixed on the N.H.& N.E.of the New Cov.wherin righteousness,everlasting righteousness through the full establishment and coming of the everlasting New Cov.Kingdom 2 Pete 3:10,12 Lk.21:32 Dan.9:24 Heb.13:20! What is the SEA and SEA BEAST of Rev.13:1? The place of the Gentiles is THE SEA Gen.10:5 Pslm.72:10 Isa.11:10. Who is the LAND BEAST of Rev.13:11? The people of the land are the people of the PROMISED LAND. They are in Cahoots w/Rome,the Sea BEAST! Who was the BEAST who's # was six hundred and sixty six where 1st century Christians are commanded to apply wisdom and understanding as to count the # of His Name? The name Caesar Nero equates exactly to six hundred and sixty six using the Hebrew letter number calculation .His Name can be spelled Neron Kaiser in Hebrew..NRWN QWR N=50 R=200 W=6 N=50 Q=100 S=60 R=200. He had in his palace hundred of images of half man half beast creatures and would cloth himself w animal skins and act out all kinds of perversions mutilations whereas his political opponents referred to him as THE BEAST! Individuals in his day were given a choice "is Caesar Lord,or is JESUS LORD? Let's keep in mind Rev.takes place in Jerusalem where our Lord was slain in the days of the Gk.Oikoumene world ROMAN EMPIRE 11:812:916:143:10 the hour and trail that shall come upon all the world (oikoumene) where the whole world (oikoumene) is gathered in a place called Armageddon ..Therefore Revelation takes place not worldwide nor is Armageddon nor the hour of trial. .. ROMAN EMPIRE expired in 476 AD thus Revelation was fulfilled !
Thanks for the feedback. However, this seems to be more of a general issue that every interpretive perspective of Revelation will suffer from. Even a premillennial dispensationalist perspective (which is a very narrow interpretive lens) will still have variances on "which event correlates to which prophesy". With preterism in particular I think what you might be noticing is that the lack of agreement is just more pronounced.
The concept of the "interpretive lens" is solid, yet few people would readily admit as to how it forms their doctrines. One thing that has dramatically shifted in my lifetime is that the Roman Catholic Church was identified in the past as the great harlot of Revelation. Once a popular view throughout the 1889s and 1900s, this has, in some ways, now dropped off because of the internal problems of the RC Church since about Vatican II. A typical RC Church now has trouble find priests and nuns, attendance is down, churches are closing/consolidating and most around here cannot put on a decent Lenten Fish Fry. A huge change for the Preterist view started to occur in the late 1800s with the Zionist Movement gaining traction. While Premillennialists had been avowing a necessary Jewish presence in a restored Israel, Preterists became shocked as Jewish state around Jerusalem went from a dream to reality in under a century which looked to be a vindication for the Premillennial position. Now, more and more former "Pre-Tribbers" are switching to Pre-Wrath or Post-Trib positions and leaving the Scofield/Larkin timeline.
I think the worst thing we have to worry about is the events that haven't happened yet are Gog and Magog and the surounding of the camp which i now believe to be north pole, then they get burned up, then judgment day, then btw heaven new earth, everything else has happened
Have you seen the giant system surrounding our planet? Have you seen or heard about people seeing two moon two suns a black sun and a red planet? A few countries in the past few years have turn blood red in the sky at night as well. If you wanna know more I'll lead you to videos that will likely convince you
Either you believe in the finished work of Jesus, or you don’t. There are 2 people in this world, believer’s or unbeliever’s. We are the hands and feet of Christ. Take your responsibility and stand firm, it started as a small seed and now 2000 years later we are a tree.
People don’t understand the fulfillment that happened. To understand that the old covenant had to be done away with. The old Adam tree of knot good & evil. The new Adam Christ tree of life.
Only one Gospel: The Gospel of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
I argued with a pastor why is revelation considered chronological when john is in heaven which is a place outside of time. If heaven is in the 5th or higher dimensional realm then it can very easily fold itself into a cube of interaction.
I’m new to prophecy, and I still don’t have a firm belief yet, but in regards to the 20th century wars and deaths, is it still accurate to say it was worse than the Middle Ages , where you had plagues that basically took out almost half the population? Yes , if I was in the late 19th century and lived to see these two wars that would put some shade on post millennial views, however, if you holistically look at all of the years after 70AD, couldn’t you say yes it was very bad, but still overall, things have improved and gospel is spreading?
Yeah the truth is that in the modern day, things are far, far better than they were in the past. In our current time period we're on a slight downward slant compared to how it was 50-100 years ago, but compared to medieval times? Yeah we're not in nearly the same situation as back then, not even close. The main reason people don't believe the destruction of Jerusalem fits is because most people haven't studied history all that much. Reading through Josephus, though... it was incredibly brutal.
@@jrconway3 We are actually better off than we were 100 years ago, 50 years ago, even 10 years ago. The media makes it seem like we are worse off but in fact the whole world is better off each day. I'm not even sure that's the way we should be interpreting everything getting better anyway. My theory is that the more the Gospel goes out the better things will be until every tongue, tribe, and nation has heard the Gospel.
@bradphi2359 Gods plan all along. Final seven feast days The cumulation of the seven feast days of God’s prophetic calendar would be carried out once and for all, perfectly by Christ, within Daniel’s 70 weeks. This would be compared to the old covenant where the High Priest would enter in to offer the blood sacrifices and then come out of the Holy of Holies once a year for cleansing of the flesh of the Israelites (Hebrews 9:12:13) and not for redemption. This practice was just a shadow of the good things that were about to come, where Jesus would come out of the most holy place, in the day of judgment of the old Covenant people, but this time there will be complete redemption, and for the harvest, where all men were forgiven, and the resurrection of all those that sleep, once and for all. • (Passover) God passed over the Hebrews, blood over their door. Christ’ shed blood • (Unleavened bread) Hebrews ate bread with leaven removed. Our sins buried with Christ, when He rose, we rose with him. • (First fruits) Hebrews to bring sheaf of first fruits. After Christ rose, He was the first fruit. • (Pentecost) Hebrews had to wait 50 days after first fruits. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit 50 days after his resurrection. Jesus says there are still 4 months, and then comes the harvest. (John 4:35) Rabies calls this four-month time period, the time for the waiting for judgment. This 40 years before judgment would be where the gospel was preached to all nations and the shadowing the 40 years in Exodus. James talking to the first fruit generation, the first four feast days early rain, says it this way. The latter rain, the last 3 feast days, the coming of the Lord, has drawn near. Therefore, be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! (James 5:7-9) • (Feast of the trumpet’s) judgment (Rosh Hashanah) in 70 AD, their whole way of life was completely destroyed. • (Feast of atonement) (Yom Kippur) Jesus came down from the most holy place for a final atonement, like He said He would, in their generation. The high priest of old would come out of the holy of holies to give blessings of the sacrifices. • (Feast of tabernacles) (Sukkot) resurrection of the dead and the harvest. Now we are in the new heaven and a new earth. • Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Revelation 21: 1, 22 • In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 8:13 • “This is the covenant that I will make with them after that day, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and I will write them on their minds,” 17 “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” Hebrews 10:16-17 • “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men.” Revelation 21:3
Thousand years was mistranslated. It's suppose to have been tribes. Hebrew was numbers and letters Between was the second letter/Number, they (translators) had to think if it meant a word/letter or number Bet also could mean house.
3:17 Pre- and post- has nothing to do with the relationship between the Millennium and the Tribulation. It has to do with the 2nd Coming and the Millennium.
This view seems completely absurd to me. The events of Revelation are worldwide and cataclysmic, there's no way they have already happened. Also the notion that the world is getting better by mans efforts are laughable.
The events of Revaluation were not world wide events. They were of that time & area & of Israel. Salvation was for them not us. We live on the other side of the cross today.
To bring up the points that he brought up war brings up more new inventions though we may not like what it brings God uses good and evil to bring forth his kingdom though we may not like it ecc 3 there is a time for all things under heaven
That's a great question, I'm sure there are those who might possibly self-identify as both Lutheran and preterist. However, Martin Luther himself is typically associated with the amillennial perspective. Here's a quote that describes Luther's particular perspective in more detail: "In Luther's view of the millennium and end-time-one of the major facets of his teaching on the last things-he was a follower of the basic Augustinian amillennial view, as we have already noted. In his exposition, he rejected chiliasm and forcefully pointed out that the "thousand years" of Rev 20 began at the time when the book of Revelation was written. The end of this time period, the release of Satan according to Rev 20:7, he viewed as being the papacy's becoming the antichrist when Gregory VII became pope in 1073 and signaled his desire for world dominion. A second event causing Luther to think that Satan had been released and thus that the end of the millennium had already come was the Turkish threat to the Christendom of Europe." Vogel, Winfried. "The Eschatological Theology of Martin Luther. Part I: Luther's Basic Concepts." Andrews University Seminary Studies (AUSS) 24.3 (1986): pg 256. Available at: digitalcommons.andrews.edu/auss/vol24/iss3/14
The end of the age, not world... The bible never speaks of the end of planet earth; it’s focused on the end of the Old Covenant, the Mosaic Law... God destroyed Jerusalem and her magnificent temple in 70AD just as Christ prophesied... g God bless you in your quest for truth..
@@lavieenrose5954 the end of the age ...the end of the world means the same thing. Jesus isn't talking about the end of the physical world but the political world or how the world is run. There's nothing special about 70 AD plus it doesn't fit what prophecy says about the end time. You need to study the bible more and stop listening to these youtube preachers
Yep, Preterism is a false view of Bible prophecy. So is Futurism. Both of these were JESUIT concoctions, used to fight against the God-ordained Protestant Reformation. They knew the truth of Bible prophecy. We should too.
@@ryangallmeier6647 The bible literally says Jesus will return and resurrect His elect and they will rule and reign on the earth for 1000 years . That Is the truth
@@christiansoldier77 Did I mention anything about the Millennium of Rev. 20? Nope. Didn't mention one word about it. What I said was, "Preterism and Futurism are both fallacious interpretations of Bible prophecy". If you wanna talk about the Millennium (and how the saints will NOT be on the earth during this time; they will be with Christ in HEAVEN for 1,000 years) I'd be glad to do that. But my point was about exposing the falsehoods of Preterism (along with Postmillennialism and Amillennialism), and Futurism (including their false view of the 1,000 year Millennium, which will NOT take place on the earth, but in HEAVEN). I have a few videos on these subjects; you should check 'em out when you get the chance. There are HUGE things happening in the world right now. Christians are NOT prepared because they have all kinds of false prophecy scenarios being thrown at them from all sides. Christians can no longer identify the Antichrist ('cuz they don't read their Bibles, or study History), and, more importantly, they don't know the pivotal role the United States has to play in End Times events. It's sad, really. Questions? Let's try and have a rational discussion about these important truths. God's Prophetic Word is important. *Soli Deo Gloria*
PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
@@rickhuntling7338 NOT if the "end times" only ever meant the "end of the Old Mosiac Covenant", which is what it actually means. Therefore, it's in the past.
As Christians, we should endeavor to be accurate and honest in our portrayal of others’ positions. This was neither. Wow, do a little research before embarking on a “teaching moment!”
Hi Robert, we would like to be accurate and honest in our portrayal of other's positions. The difficulty is that there can be so many nuances to this viewpoint and not all of them are particularly common. The goal of this video was to present a popular and common preterist interpretive lens of the book of Revelation. It appears from your comment that you possibly have a completely different understanding of a preterist interpretation of Revelation. You are welcome to share constructive comments on a "preterist interpretation" if you notice that something is inaccurate in the video.
Do you believe this happened in the first century? Matthew 24:30-31: “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then ALL the peoples of the earth (NOT just Jerusalem) will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." IF this happened in the first century and ALL the peoples of the earth saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, I think it would be the most spectacular event in all of history and historical records around the entire world would be rife with reports of dumbfounded people in total shock at the most amazing sight ever! Notice it says ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem. Or are you saying All the peoples of the earth is a metaphor for people around Jerusalem. Also, Peter says, "The Day of the Lord comes as a thief, the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt in fervent heat, and the earth and all its works will be laid bare. Sorry, this did NOT happen in the first century Jerusalem. How do you make some things metaphors and others literal, like passages in Revelation that say certain events will happen soon, or quickly? Also, the word translated soon in Revelation (these things will soon happen) is according to Strong’s the Greek word “tachei” and it means: quickness, speed; hastily, immediately. So, it can be a reference to a particular event happening at a quick pace once it starts.
Hi Mike, Thanks for the feedback. This video was part of a series exploring the spectrum of different interpretations of Revelation. Hence this video serves as a sample explanation of a preterist / postmillennial perspective. There are quite a few verses that one might use to either argue for or against a preterist timeline of revelation. Now it is entirely possible that a preterist perspective is in conflict with Matthew 24:30-31. But I did notice that you used the NIV translation of Matthew 24:30-31. The NIV translation actually includes a footnote for verse 30 clarifying that "all the peoples of the earth" is an interpretive rendering of the passage. The footnote clarifies that the Greek can be literally translated to "the tribes of the land". Hence a preterist could potentially argue that "ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem" is an incorrect exegesis of the passage. Again, I hope this serves as a sample of how a preterist could potentially interpret this passage, it does not mean it is necessarily the correct interpretation of Matthew 24:30-31.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch BUT, it does say, "...the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." The phrase, "from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other, does not sound at all like Jerusalem.
Well I think your explaination is bias... those think written were sign for the jews ... so why wouldnt it not do as in 70 ad but little different... Revelation was written for those at the time and we should learn from it and see the reality of Jesus PROPHECY
Hi Dominic, there are many different interpretations of Revelation. This video is part of a larger series of videos in which each video explores a different viewpoint. This video was focused on a preterist viewpoint where the other videos will be focused on differing positions. We tried to represent each viewpoint fairly and champion that viewpoint during the corresponding video. However, no matter how hard we try to fairly represent the viewpoints there probably will be an unintentional bias.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch Hello, I found this video and realized that it wasn’t the fist one. I looked in your videos and can’t find any of the prior ones. I hope I didn’t overlook them. I am interested in watching the previous ones as well as any going forward. Thank you in advance.
1 Thessalonians 5:2 which says, “for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night ... Okay, just this one scripture alone is that you are telling me everything in the bible has already happened??? What about the time where he will take people up into heaven?? Are you trying to tell everyone that it already happened??? When was that?? ....lol.. The scriptures has not been fulfilled.. '''Not yet''.. ...lol..
Thanks for the questions, this video was part of a teaching series and represents one of a series of interpretive perspectives of Revelation. There are definitely arguments for and against each perspective and I'd encourage you to check out some of the other videos in the series for more information.
PRETERISM DESTROYED "ALL these things" are not fulfilled and therefore Jesus has not returned as the cult of preterism falsely teaches. Take a look: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (be renovated), but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:34-36 So if all these things are NOT yet fulfilled, and they aren't, how could this be speaking of that generation and not a future generation? Impossible. "This generation" could not have possibly been the generation, the people Jesus was speaking to when He spoke these words. We know that because most of these things were not fulfilled. Did "the abomination of desolation" prophesied by Daniel happen in 70 A.D.? Nope. "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24:15 Did Jesus return on the clouds and take up His elect? Nope. Matthew 24:29-31 Were Christ's elect gathered today in 70A.D.? No. "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31 "ALL these things" Jesus is specifically speaking of in this passage/teaching are not fulfilled and thereby we know the preterists a cancerous cult that are misleading many (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:18). They are the Hymaneus' of our day. If your "Jesus" has already come, He's "another Jesus" and not "the Almighty" who said "he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him." Has NOT transpired. He said that He's coming "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ... with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is NOT happened. The fact that these things were not fulfilled in 70A.D. clearly reveals that preterism is heretical - because "ALL these things" did not come to pass in 70A.D. Future fulfillment.
This generation is talking about them. It literally says it. Heaven & earth is talking about the old temple. That represents heaven & earth coming together. That’s what they called the temple. It’s a representation. So yes heaven & earth passed away
Read Luke 21:20-34. Matthew 10:23, 16:27-28 24:30,34 Mark 8:38-9:1 The sun moon & stars are not literally falling from the shy. It’s symbolic. They are prophetic symbols of God’s judgment on empires, governments & institutions & nations. This is found in both the OT & NT. Earthquakes & shaking of heaven & earth describe shaking of kingdoms.
@@911dbaines PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The problem is that you and the whole Bible Belt need to drop the Theology of millineum we have to understand that in the book of Revelation this word millineum is not literal at all By collecting all of these different beliefs using the word millineum in a literal understanding is contrary to the word of God Where and how did all of this hyperboly get started ? It has no place in the kingdom of God The Bible says those that are led by the spirit of God they are the sons of God. I'm content in not giving myself a stereotypical identity within the kingdom of God. The Bible says that the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life How we identify ourselves as the church now applies to how God sees us in the spirit the Bible says that the carnal mind is enmity against God The Bible did not say that the martyred Saints were given different color robes it said they were all given white robes We as the church are all contradicting ourselves and we are all not one spirit in one accord like the Bible says Amen 🙏!
Hi Dennis, This particular video was designed to present the postmillennialist perspective. It sounds like you might be closer to the amillennialistic perspective. You might find that a different video in this teaching series more closely reflects your viewpoint: ruclips.net/video/5LGkHNr796Y/видео.html
@Columbus Evangelical Church: I am neither of those different views that you mentioned I just believe in the interpretation of the word of God in spirit and in truth 🙏 Amen !
@@Charles73358 I see where you are coming from, but...... Labels aside, we do need to understand this. Otherwise, how do we correctly interpret modern day Israel? How will we interpret the coming rebuilding of the temple, animal sacrifices? And the eschatology we believe will decide whether the appearance of a certain character will be perceived as Christ Himself or the imposter Christ (Antichrist). If our eternal destiny depends on that, this is a VERY big subject.
Postmillennialism is just as fallacious as Amillennialism. Both ignore the fact that Rev. 19 depicts the 2nd Advent, and that Rev. 20 depicts what happens chronologically after that. As for Preterism, it completely IGNORES and ABANDONS the day=year principle that every Reformation and post-Reformation writer on Bible prophecy knew about (including Johnathan Edwards, by the way). Futurism also ignores the day=year principle for the 1,260 days/42 months/'time, times, half a time' (a time-specific prophecy given 7 TIMES in Scripture: twice in Daniel, and five times in Revelation). Don't fall for deceptions, brethren! You are WARNED! Questions? Let me know. *Soli Deo Gloria*
@@ExtraordinaryJam Sola Scriptura, of course. The day=year principle helps here. Understanding Dan. 2 and 7 helps here. Understanding the Identity of the "little horn" of Dan. 7, and when it rose to power, helps here. Understanding that it continued in power for 'a time, times, and half a time' (1,260 literal YEARS) helps here. Understanding what the Reformers taught concerning this issue, helps here. Church History and Historical Theology helps here. I have a few videos on all these issues on my channel. Check 'em out, let me know what you think. *Soli Deo Gloria*
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Pastor Michael is obviously not teaching his own beliefs. His style of teaching was perfect for me. I have seen tons of explanations of this stuff and finally I get it. At my age and for the past 17 years I am finally starting to understand that folks from the pulpit haven't been teaching the full truth. Thanks Pastor Michael.
I'm so happy i found out what a preterist is, as i have just started thinking this way from reading Bible and Revelation. And i actually thought there was hardly anyone that thought this way
Thanks Drew, I'm glad the videos have been helpful!
@@threelittlebirds274 I can always remember thinking as a kid , man I wonder if these ppl just got it wrong because the whole renaissance era seemed to me like Jesus did come back. But everyone around me would say no his 2nd coming is still in the future.
@@threelittlebirds274 I would like to point out that honestly I didn't even know what a preterist was until after reading the Bible and wondering if maybe other ppl have thought maybe the apocalypse has already happened and that's when I stumbled across the peterist view. And while I don't fully believe in everything most preterist believe that all of the events in revelation have already happened, judgment day, new heaven, new earth. This to me seems unlikely since the devil is apparently still in our world. I am more along the lines of what you would call partial preterist. I truly believe that we are in the short season because if you read revelation you will clearly see that mark of beast, apocalypse happen then 2nd coming , 1000 year reign, Satan let loose for short season to once again to deceive the nations ( time that most likely seems to be ours), then the march around the camp of the saints, then judgment day, then new heaven, new earth, here's why I think we are in short season.
So how do you know that the apocalypse hasn't happened yet? I spiritually challenge anybody else that is still expecting the tribulation and rapture to still happen to look into this before you answer. Not only are here are many clues that this has already happened but there also has been great lengths to bury our history. Also did you know there are Bible verses?
Many of the ppl of Jesus' time thought that he would come back in their life time because they were told that.
"Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, EVEN THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.
Revelation 1:7 NASB1995"
see also
Matthew chapter 24
Luke chapter 21 cross referencing also Rev chapter 20.
This guy here: ruclips.net/video/-8Kc-httqnE/видео.html
is also very helpful, as he has made a video of literally at least 15 or more scriptures and he points out some very interesting things I never thought about, or just overlooked, that are undeniable proofs that the apocalypse already happened that are in the Bible. There are many scriptures that suggest that the kingdom came and went. We are the end, the "short season"
Or the "pre judgment " day ppl. Satan has already been bound and let loose and is now deceiving the nations.
When the Bible says that the devil is the father of this world, he really is, he's the same lyer that tell us we evolved from apes, and life is meaningless what else should we question that they tell us? Everything! I will also say that This subject is next to impossible to find any information about on google and youtube who love to censor truth so if this interests you and you'd like to look into some of this yourself i can send you more links just let me know.
There are many things we are told that just aren't true and once you start looking into what we are told about American history alone is undoubtedly impossible the sheer construction of our modern day cities and buildings, and sewer and subterranean networks all across this plane alone should raise suspicion and anyone that can think for themselves. considering what? That a bunch of pilgrims on horseback are the ones who constructed these cities? Look at huge old buildings like Cathedral of St. John the divine en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Divine of New York City,. Look at this ridiculous narrative that we are given and start asking questions?
It's ok to admit that we have all been fooled by the devil but we have to admit that we have been fooled if we want God to give us discernment to know the truth.
@@threelittlebirds274 yes, I just don't like calling it that, but yes
@@threelittlebirds274 I know , we all been there because we've all been literally indoctrinated from birth to have this mindset. Look into tartaria also. I didn't want to believe it at first either because I honestly thought that it was a false teaching but once you read the Bible verses and look into a really messed up history and all this stuff that they're hiding yeah it's kind of hard to really make any sense out of it except for this makes the most sense to me could all of us be wrong yeah maybe but it seems to me that this did happen and we are loving in the thousand years after. And honestly if you pray for discernment and ask for the Holy Spirit to show you the truth you really can't be a led astray. The Holy Spirit will show you the truth. And I also pray that I don't tell people things that aren't true
I think the most important question is would Jesus lie. He wouldn’t. So when he told people standing before him that some there would see his return. So he returned.
Huh, He said it's not going to be missed, DO NOT BE DECEIVED, people will say he returned and it was not seen, however it will be like lightning from the east to the west,Rev1:7 says EVERY EYE will see him He said it will be a tribulation like never before nor again And IF those days were not cut short no one would have survived, He also said Many would be taken by surprise Because the master, the husband and whatever other parable he sued to show it will be a long time, You are right though he did NOT lie
That's not what He said. He said that some there would see the Son of Man in Power (paraphrasing) and the very next set of verses He does just that on the Mount of Transfiguration when James, John, and Peter meet Moses, Elijah, and a Glorified Christ.
@@davidkayumy8081 No, it's not referring to the transfiguration. Have a look:
*Matthew 16:27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*
*28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.*
*Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:*
Our Lord says the "some standing here" thing back in chapter 16, which is followed by the transfiguration. Obviously the event still hadn't occurred even up to chapter 25 (as quoted above). It gives the detail about the involvement of angels, which is aditional proof it's not about the transfiguration.
Furthermore, the part about him sitting upon the throne. That it fits with preterist idea of Jesus being the current and reigning King presently, diminishing the enemy under his feet. Futurists have Jesus reigning in the future millenium, not now (some even say Satan is ruling the world, which is complete nonsense). Obviously he doesn't ascend to the throne at the transfiguration, he hadn't even gone to the cross yet.
*Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.*
Note this is also after the transfiguration in chapter 17. He says "when" he shall sit on the throne, showing he hadn't done it yet. Every verse is from Matthew and orderly, these points cannot be refuted.
Every little detail must be taken into consideration. Misinterpreting exist and this is a very serious subject. From what I've seen people that believe that all of that already happened don't believe Jesus is savior because he fulfilled through the second coming. Believing this and being wrong means your soul. My question is why is there still evil in the world? There's people that worship fallen angels and giants there's giants arounr still cults and satanic symbology. Demons are still around too look into any celeb or person that has schizophrenia or you can do satanic prayer like I was forced too and something (I think would be a skin walker) starts following you around. There's a lot of evil still left in the world and it doesn't make sense that God would just leave this place in shambles. There's also weird happenings in the sky and around us. Two moons two suns UFOs black hole suns black suns Red planets blood sky's darkness in the middle of the day. Not only that but a digital currency is on the way same with IDs drivers licenses medical cards..likely all that I just mentioned will be in some way a prerequisite to the mark of the beast. Elon talks about how everyone will have a worldwide income because nobody will be working which proves even further that theyll control our money. You can't talk about Jesus in iseral anymore and they're building a church that'll be the catalyst for the one world religion. The church I'm speaking of houses all 3 Abrahamic religions as one. Everyone is turning into degenerates with only fans porn live leak gore videos people are becoming more violent and numb to empathy. The world economic forum is talking about putting chips in our heads eventually and owning nothing and liking it. By 2050 everyone will be moved into 15 min city that way they can control the masses better. Baphomet statues are being erected everywhere and the entertainers are being more and more obvious with their love for Satan. WW3 is also right around the corner. If nuclear winter sets in then that's when they'll come up with a world wide peace plan the embryo of the one world government ie UN will be in control. That's what I think will happen. In the next few years of ww3 happens I'll no longer take preterism into consideration. There's far too many odd things happening in our world that mind you nobody alive has seen until now that is going down. If you can explain away everything I just said I'll be open to it but all that I've learned points us to revelations
@@victorcritelli5790 good points!
I'm 55 and I've been a preterist from day 1
Probably going to stay that way
I am a United Methodist
If course I believe people will be judged for their sins if they don't repent
But I'm looking forward to the new creation
But nobody's going to hell for being a preterist
Nobody's going to hell for not being a preterist
We just live with less fear, gloom and doom
Five foolish virgins found the door shut for thinking the groom tarry.
You have some major facts that put your false doctrines to rest.
1. You can't be serious satan has been bound 1000 years?
2. Millenium = 1000 not 2000.
3. John the revelator was imprisoned on Patmos 25 years after the 70 AD destruction, under Domitian in 95 AD.
4. Isa. 66:8 was fulfilled on May 14, 1948.
Rev. 12:1 was in Virgo, bathed in the sun with the moon at her feet with 3 planets in Leo making the 12 stars in the crown. This fulfilled on 9\23\2017 on the Feast of Trumpets. Last time this happened was 4973 BC.
Rev. 12:2 is from 70 ad to 5\14\1948.
Rev. 12:3 is in the constellation dragon Identifies the dragon as the 7 states that became the Arab League of States. They made a Pact with Hitler to not allow Jews to migrate to Palestine but to burn them instead. Ursa Minor is surrounded by the dragon's tail were the swastika originated. Polars is in Ursa Minor making it the only constellation visible both day and night; Rev. 12:10.
Rev. 12:4 and the tail (with swastika) drew (into death camps) the one third (6 million) of the stars of heaven (Jews Gen. 22:17) and did cast them to the earth (gassed and burned) and the dragon stood over the woman (Jacob's children) to devour her child (Newborn Nation of Israel, Isa. 66:8) as soon as it was born (ALS attacked Israel the day it was born)".
So are we in the “ short season “ of Satan
One comment. A preterist / post millennial (as I believe per scripture exegesis) doesn’t focus really on the new creation as the next event, but rather advancing the kingdom of God in the earth as commanded in the great commission. Also a preterist does not mean we believe the “entire” book of Revelation was past. Some things are yet to be, such as the final resurrection, final judgement, or the great white throne. But as a whole, Revelation is not about the consummation of all things at the end, but rather the commencement or launching of Christ’s kingdom to all the nations. That is why it concludes with the words “come”.
“The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.”
This is an invitation going forward to the nations, of which continues today.
Hi Tim, great observation! you're correct that many people who would self-identify as "preterist" do not see the entire book of Revelation as occurring in the past. In fact usually self-identifying preterists will typically divide into two main camps for those who are partial-preterists and full-preterists. One of the key identifiers between these two camps is what happens next in the story line of Revelation. Typically a partial-preterist would see the next event as the launching of Christ's kingdom to all the nations. However a full-preterist would typically see events like the final resurrection, final judgement, and the great white throne as already fulfilled.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch I remember my pastor telling me once, “We are not partial or full Preterist, just Preterist.”
For me if everything was past in fulfillment, we wouldn’t need doctors and we wouldn’t need transportation of any kind.
@@jmzsil if Jesus reigned 1000 years I doubt they needed electricity wires, heaters, or even food, because everyone had everything they needed as suggested by the architecture they call tartarian all over the world with a kind of tech that harvested energy from the air, church organs that broadcasting healing cymatics through rose windows, and apparently no need to have an alimentary canal because bathrooms were not found in those tall ceiling structures. People must have been taller too. This season of evil has digestion issues. Yes I have become a Lutheran preterist somehow.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch is there any scripture that appears to support the full preterist notion? To me it would seem that these evens still will take place, the surrounding of the camp, or gog and magog, burned up from fire from heaven, then earth gives up dead great white throne, judgment day i actually thought was all the same day. Then new heaven new earth Jerusalem possibly still all the same day
Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
1 John 2:18 “IT IS THE LAST HOUR” - James 1:8 “The coming of the Lord is near.” - Revelation 6:11 “in a little while”.
Let’s trust John and James, the end was back then, “the last hour.” Leviticus 26, Deuteronomy 28 - the curses of the Law were given to the very last OC Law generation.
I am so happy by your teaching
God bless you ,I am fulpreterist
Good Stuff!
It's important to understand there's alot of Poetic Imagery and Apocalyptic language in Revelation.
Things which symbolize/signify 1:4 and we must understand it from the hebraic readers perspective as well, what would have it meant to the 7 churches in Asia Minor reading John's letters.
A 1000 mathematical years are not permitted within the definitions and usages of shortly (tachos) and at hand/near/soon (eggus).
A 1000 yr reign is only used in Chpt 20.So in Revelation either shortly,at hand,near,soon,have to be taken figuratively or A 1000 yrs has to be taken figuratively.Tachos & Eggus are NEVER used figuratively in scripture & A 1000 yrs is virtually ALWAYS used figuratively.
Was there ever a promised earthy utopia to be involved with it according to Lk.17:20-21 & Rev.21:1 ,Isa.65:20 involving people dying & sin under the New Heavens & New Earth,as dogs and murderers prowl outside the New Cov.City 22:15.as the nations are still in need of healing 22:2 and evangelism is still going on 22:17 Dan.12:2-3?
Had not the Heavenly Jerusalem arrived in the 1st century Heb.12:22?
Does not the Kingdom bind the strong man Mt.12:29 Rev.20:2?
The Apostle Paul quotes Isa.11:10 in Rom.15:12 there shall be the root of Jesse,and He shall rise TO REIGN over the Gentiles and in Him shall the Gentiles trust! NOTE also that Isaiah states states "AND IN THAT DAY" there shall be the root of Jesse ...What Day? Paul's day,the same day when the wolf,kid calf,lion,fatling,a little child,a cow,a bear,are all getting along fine.
The Gentile nations would miraculously be living together w/ the True Jews of Israel (Eph.2:12-14) as the Prince of Peace breaks down every barrier between them.This is how Peter understood the various beasts that they were communicating to the Gentiles in Acts 10!
What is the NEW HEAVENS AND EARTH communicate in 21:1?
In Duet.32:1 Give ear O yea Heavens O Earth the words of my mouth,Moses is addressing the Cov.people the congregation 31:30 & in Isa.1:2 Jerusalem the Cov.people are being addressed 1:1 ..In Isa.49:13 as well.
Mt.5:17-18' Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till HEAVEN and EARTH pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Did Jesus fulfill the law & prophets? Yes! And since He did HEAVEN & EARTH have passed away! That is the Old Cov.law & prophets have passed away and ALL things become NEW in Christ!
Jesus is contrasting the Old.Cov.with the New Cov.whos contractual words of the New Cov.will never become dormant and pass away 2Cor.5:17 Rev.21:5 Mt.24:35!
Peter exhorts all eyes to be fixed on the N.H.& N.E.of the New Cov.wherin righteousness,everlasting righteousness through the full establishment and coming of the everlasting New Cov.Kingdom 2 Pete 3:10,12 Lk.21:32 Dan.9:24 Heb.13:20!
What is the SEA and SEA BEAST of Rev.13:1? The place of the Gentiles is THE SEA Gen.10:5 Pslm.72:10 Isa.11:10.
Who is the LAND BEAST of Rev.13:11? The people of the land are the people of the PROMISED LAND. They are in Cahoots w/Rome,the Sea BEAST!
Who was the BEAST who's # was six hundred and sixty six where 1st century Christians are commanded to apply wisdom and understanding as to count the # of His Name?
The name Caesar Nero equates exactly to six hundred and sixty six using the Hebrew letter number calculation .His Name can be spelled Neron Kaiser in Hebrew..NRWN QWR N=50 R=200 W=6 N=50 Q=100 S=60 R=200.
He had in his palace hundred of images of half man half beast creatures and would cloth himself w animal skins and act out all kinds of perversions mutilations whereas his political opponents referred to him as THE BEAST!
Individuals in his day were given a choice "is Caesar Lord,or is JESUS LORD?
Let's keep in mind Rev.takes place in Jerusalem where our Lord was slain in the days of the Gk.Oikoumene world ROMAN EMPIRE 11:8 12:9 16:14 3:10 the hour and trail that shall come upon all the world (oikoumene) where the whole world (oikoumene) is gathered in a place called Armageddon ..Therefore Revelation takes place not worldwide nor is Armageddon nor the hour of trial. ..
ROMAN EMPIRE expired in 476 AD thus Revelation was fulfilled !
Preterism for the win!
Phenomenal explanation! Well stated...Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
The issue with preterism, is if you can't even agree on which event correlates to which prophecy, you may not be as studied as you should.
Thanks for the feedback. However, this seems to be more of a general issue that every interpretive perspective of Revelation will suffer from. Even a premillennial dispensationalist perspective (which is a very narrow interpretive lens) will still have variances on "which event correlates to which prophesy". With preterism in particular I think what you might be noticing is that the lack of agreement is just more pronounced.
As with the rest of the nearly 50,000 different denominations. There is always disagreement.
The concept of the "interpretive lens" is solid, yet few people would readily admit as to how it forms their doctrines. One thing that has dramatically shifted in my lifetime is that the Roman Catholic Church was identified in the past as the great harlot of Revelation. Once a popular view throughout the 1889s and 1900s, this has, in some ways, now dropped off because of the internal problems of the RC Church since about Vatican II. A typical RC Church now has trouble find priests and nuns, attendance is down, churches are closing/consolidating and most around here cannot put on a decent Lenten Fish Fry. A huge change for the Preterist view started to occur in the late 1800s with the Zionist Movement gaining traction. While Premillennialists had been avowing a necessary Jewish presence in a restored Israel, Preterists became shocked as Jewish state around Jerusalem went from a dream to reality in under a century which looked to be a vindication for the Premillennial position. Now, more and more former "Pre-Tribbers" are switching to Pre-Wrath or Post-Trib positions and leaving the Scofield/Larkin timeline.
I think the worst thing we have to worry about is the events that haven't happened yet are Gog and Magog and the surounding of the camp which i now believe to be north pole, then they get burned up, then judgment day, then btw heaven new earth, everything else has happened
Have you seen the giant system surrounding our planet? Have you seen or heard about people seeing two moon two suns a black sun and a red planet? A few countries in the past few years have turn blood red in the sky at night as well. If you wanna know more I'll lead you to videos that will likely convince you
Either you believe in the finished work of Jesus, or you don’t. There are 2 people in this world, believer’s or unbeliever’s. We are the hands and feet of Christ. Take your responsibility and stand firm, it started as a small seed and now 2000 years later we are a tree.
People don’t understand the fulfillment that happened. To understand that the old covenant had to be done away with. The old Adam tree of knot good & evil. The new Adam Christ tree of life.
Only one Gospel:
The Gospel of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods).
REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
I argued with a pastor why is revelation considered chronological when john is in heaven which is a place outside of time. If heaven is in the 5th or higher dimensional realm then it can very easily fold itself into a cube of interaction.
I’m sure that’s exactly what John meant … it’s SOOOO clear 🥸🤪
I’m new to prophecy, and I still don’t have a firm belief yet, but in regards to the 20th century wars and deaths, is it still accurate to say it was worse than the Middle Ages , where you had plagues that basically took out almost half the population? Yes , if I was in the late 19th century and lived to see these two wars that would put some shade on post millennial views, however, if you holistically look at all of the years after 70AD, couldn’t you say yes it was very bad, but still overall, things have improved and gospel is spreading?
Yeah the truth is that in the modern day, things are far, far better than they were in the past. In our current time period we're on a slight downward slant compared to how it was 50-100 years ago, but compared to medieval times? Yeah we're not in nearly the same situation as back then, not even close.
The main reason people don't believe the destruction of Jerusalem fits is because most people haven't studied history all that much. Reading through Josephus, though... it was incredibly brutal.
@@jrconway3 We are actually better off than we were 100 years ago, 50 years ago, even 10 years ago. The media makes it seem like we are worse off but in fact the whole world is better off each day. I'm not even sure that's the way we should be interpreting everything getting better anyway. My theory is that the more the Gospel goes out the better things will be until every tongue, tribe, and nation has heard the Gospel.
@@davidkayumy8081 the mainstream media does a lot of damage by spreading lot’s of lies though.
@@davidkayumy8081 better in someways worse in others.
@@davidkayumy8081col 1:24... the gospel was preached to every creature of earth.
How does that fit the seven feast
@bradphi2359 Gods plan all along.
Final seven feast days
The cumulation of the seven feast days of God’s prophetic calendar would be carried out once and for all, perfectly by Christ, within Daniel’s 70 weeks.
This would be compared to the old covenant where the High Priest would enter in to offer the blood sacrifices and then come out of the Holy of Holies once a year for cleansing of the flesh of the Israelites (Hebrews 9:12:13) and not for redemption. This practice was just a shadow of the good things that were about to come, where Jesus would come out of the most holy place, in the day of judgment of the old Covenant people, but this time there will be complete redemption, and for the harvest, where all men were forgiven, and the resurrection of all those that sleep, once and for all.
• (Passover) God passed over the Hebrews, blood over their door. Christ’ shed blood
• (Unleavened bread) Hebrews ate bread with leaven removed. Our sins buried with Christ, when He rose, we rose with him.
• (First fruits) Hebrews to bring sheaf of first fruits. After Christ rose, He was the first fruit.
• (Pentecost) Hebrews had to wait 50 days after first fruits. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit 50 days after his resurrection.
Jesus says there are still 4 months, and then comes the harvest. (John 4:35) Rabies calls this four-month time period, the time for the waiting for judgment. This 40 years before judgment would be where the gospel was preached to all nations and the shadowing the 40 years in Exodus.
James talking to the first fruit generation, the first four feast days early rain, says it this way. The latter rain, the last 3 feast days, the coming of the Lord, has drawn near. Therefore, be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! (James 5:7-9)
• (Feast of the trumpet’s) judgment (Rosh Hashanah) in 70 AD, their whole way of life was completely destroyed.
• (Feast of atonement) (Yom Kippur) Jesus came down from the most holy place for a final atonement, like He said He would, in their generation. The high priest of old would come out of the holy of holies to give blessings of the sacrifices.
• (Feast of tabernacles) (Sukkot) resurrection of the dead and the harvest.
Now we are in the new heaven and a new earth.
• Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Revelation 21: 1, 22
• In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 8:13
• “This is the covenant that I will make with them after that day, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and I will write them on their minds,” 17 “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” Hebrews 10:16-17
• “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men.” Revelation 21:3
Thousand years was mistranslated. It's suppose to have been tribes. Hebrew was numbers and letters Between was the second letter/Number, they (translators) had to think if it meant a word/letter or number Bet also could mean house.
Lol
3:17 Pre- and post- has nothing to do with the relationship between the Millennium and the Tribulation. It has to do with the 2nd Coming and the Millennium.
This view seems completely absurd to me. The events of Revelation are worldwide and cataclysmic, there's no way they have already happened. Also the notion that the world is getting better by mans efforts are laughable.
The events of Revaluation were not world wide events. They were of that time & area & of Israel. Salvation was for them not us. We live on the other side of the cross today.
To bring up the points that he brought up war brings up more new inventions though we may not like what it brings God uses good and evil to bring forth his kingdom though we may not like it ecc 3 there is a time for all things under heaven
Are there any Lutheran prétérists?
That's a great question, I'm sure there are those who might possibly self-identify as both Lutheran and preterist. However, Martin Luther himself is typically associated with the amillennial perspective. Here's a quote that describes Luther's particular perspective in more detail:
"In Luther's view of the millennium and end-time-one of the major facets of his teaching on the last things-he was a follower of the basic Augustinian amillennial view, as we have already noted. In his exposition, he rejected chiliasm and forcefully pointed out that the "thousand years" of Rev 20 began at the time when the book of Revelation was written. The end of this time period, the release of Satan according to Rev 20:7, he viewed as being the papacy's becoming the antichrist when Gregory VII became pope in 1073 and signaled his desire for world dominion. A second event causing Luther to think that Satan had been released and thus that the end of the millennium had already come was the Turkish threat to the Christendom of Europe."
Vogel, Winfried. "The Eschatological Theology of Martin Luther. Part I: Luther's Basic Concepts." Andrews University Seminary Studies (AUSS) 24.3 (1986): pg 256.
Available at: digitalcommons.andrews.edu/auss/vol24/iss3/14
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch thank you!
The end of the world was 70 AD ??? I think not
The end of the age, not world...
The bible never speaks of the end of planet earth; it’s focused on the end of the Old Covenant, the Mosaic Law...
God destroyed Jerusalem and her magnificent temple in 70AD just as Christ prophesied...
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God bless you in your quest for truth..
@@lavieenrose5954 the end of the age ...the end of the world means the same thing. Jesus isn't talking about the end of the physical world but the political world or how the world is run. There's nothing special about 70 AD plus it doesn't fit what prophecy says about the end time. You need to study the bible more and stop listening to these youtube preachers
Yep, Preterism is a false view of Bible prophecy.
So is Futurism.
Both of these were JESUIT concoctions, used to fight against the God-ordained Protestant Reformation.
They knew the truth of Bible prophecy.
We should too.
@@ryangallmeier6647 The bible literally says Jesus will return and resurrect His elect and they will rule and reign on the earth for 1000 years . That Is the truth
@@christiansoldier77 Did I mention anything about the Millennium of Rev. 20? Nope. Didn't mention one word about it.
What I said was, "Preterism and Futurism are both fallacious interpretations of Bible prophecy".
If you wanna talk about the Millennium (and how the saints will NOT be on the earth during this time; they will be with Christ in HEAVEN for 1,000 years) I'd be glad to do that.
But my point was about exposing the falsehoods of Preterism (along with Postmillennialism and Amillennialism), and Futurism (including their false view of the 1,000 year Millennium, which will NOT take place on the earth, but in HEAVEN).
I have a few videos on these subjects; you should check 'em out when you get the chance.
There are HUGE things happening in the world right now.
Christians are NOT prepared because they have all kinds of false prophecy scenarios being thrown at them from all sides.
Christians can no longer identify the Antichrist ('cuz they don't read their Bibles, or study History), and, more importantly, they don't know the pivotal role the United States has to play in End Times events.
It's sad, really.
Questions?
Let's try and have a rational discussion about these important truths.
God's Prophetic Word is important.
*Soli Deo Gloria*
PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy.
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
always better and better... where Floods, tornadis, vulcanos, WWWIii coming epidemies etc. 😂😂😂
The end times are in the past
oxymoron statement.
@@rickhuntling7338 ok Karen
@@dafflad1 NO, end times are future if they are end times, we being in the present.
@@rickhuntling7338 you should go seek medical attention. Maybe a psychiatrist would help you’re in gross error.
@@rickhuntling7338 NOT if the "end times" only ever meant the "end of the Old Mosiac Covenant", which is what it actually means. Therefore, it's in the past.
post ad 70 Kingdom now believer, world w/.o end, age to age, eph 3
As Christians, we should endeavor to be accurate and honest in our portrayal of others’ positions. This was neither. Wow, do a little research before embarking on a “teaching moment!”
Hi Robert, we would like to be accurate and honest in our portrayal of other's positions. The difficulty is that there can be so many nuances to this viewpoint and not all of them are particularly common. The goal of this video was to present a popular and common preterist interpretive lens of the book of Revelation. It appears from your comment that you possibly have a completely different understanding of a preterist interpretation of Revelation. You are welcome to share constructive comments on a "preterist interpretation" if you notice that something is inaccurate in the video.
Do you believe this happened in the first century? Matthew 24:30-31: “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then ALL the peoples of the earth (NOT just Jerusalem) will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." IF this happened in the first century and ALL the peoples of the earth saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, I think it would be the most spectacular event in all of history and historical records around the entire world would be rife with reports of dumbfounded people in total shock at the most amazing sight ever! Notice it says ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem. Or are you saying All the peoples of the earth is a metaphor for people around Jerusalem. Also, Peter says, "The Day of the Lord comes as a thief, the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt in fervent heat, and the earth and all its works will be laid bare. Sorry, this did NOT happen in the first century Jerusalem. How do you make some things metaphors and others literal, like passages in Revelation that say certain events will happen soon, or quickly? Also, the word translated soon in Revelation (these things will soon happen) is according to Strong’s the Greek word “tachei” and it means: quickness, speed; hastily, immediately. So, it can be a reference to a particular event happening at a quick pace once it starts.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. This video was part of a series exploring the spectrum of different interpretations of Revelation. Hence this video serves as a sample explanation of a preterist / postmillennial perspective.
There are quite a few verses that one might use to either argue for or against a preterist timeline of revelation. Now it is entirely possible that a preterist perspective is in conflict with Matthew 24:30-31. But I did notice that you used the NIV translation of Matthew 24:30-31. The NIV translation actually includes a footnote for verse 30 clarifying that "all the peoples of the earth" is an interpretive rendering of the passage. The footnote clarifies that the Greek can be literally translated to "the tribes of the land". Hence a preterist could potentially argue that "ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem" is an incorrect exegesis of the passage.
Again, I hope this serves as a sample of how a preterist could potentially interpret this passage, it does not mean it is necessarily the correct interpretation of Matthew 24:30-31.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch BUT, it does say, "...the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." The phrase, "from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other, does not sound at all like Jerusalem.
Well I think your explaination is bias... those think written were sign for the jews ... so why wouldnt it not do as in 70 ad but little different... Revelation was written for those at the time and we should learn from it and see the reality of Jesus PROPHECY
Hi Dominic, there are many different interpretations of Revelation. This video is part of a larger series of videos in which each video explores a different viewpoint. This video was focused on a preterist viewpoint where the other videos will be focused on differing positions. We tried to represent each viewpoint fairly and champion that viewpoint during the corresponding video. However, no matter how hard we try to fairly represent the viewpoints there probably will be an unintentional bias.
@@ColumbusEvangelicalChurch Hello, I found this video and realized that it wasn’t the fist one. I looked in your videos and can’t find any of the prior ones. I hope I didn’t overlook them. I am interested in watching the previous ones as well as any going forward. Thank you in advance.
That entire discussion of WWI and WWII was a red herring.
BTW, not all postmils are preterists. Many were historicists and some idealists.
1 Thessalonians 5:2 which says, “for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night ... Okay, just this one scripture alone is that you are telling me everything in the bible has already happened??? What about the time where he will take people up into heaven?? Are you trying to tell everyone that it already happened??? When was that?? ....lol.. The scriptures has not been fulfilled.. '''Not yet''.. ...lol..
Thanks for the questions, this video was part of a teaching series and represents one of a series of interpretive perspectives of Revelation. There are definitely arguments for and against each perspective and I'd encourage you to check out some of the other videos in the series for more information.
PRETERISM DESTROYED
"ALL these things" are not fulfilled and therefore Jesus has not returned as the cult of preterism falsely teaches. Take a look:
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (be renovated), but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:34-36
So if all these things are NOT yet fulfilled, and they aren't, how could this be speaking of that generation and not a future generation? Impossible. "This generation" could not have possibly been the generation, the people Jesus was speaking to when He spoke these words. We know that because most of these things were not fulfilled.
Did "the abomination of desolation" prophesied by Daniel happen in 70 A.D.? Nope.
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24:15
Did Jesus return on the clouds and take up His elect? Nope. Matthew 24:29-31 Were Christ's elect gathered today in 70A.D.? No.
"Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31
"ALL these things" Jesus is specifically speaking of in this passage/teaching are not fulfilled and thereby we know the preterists a cancerous cult that are misleading many (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:18). They are the Hymaneus' of our day.
If your "Jesus" has already come, He's "another Jesus" and not "the Almighty" who said "he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him." Has NOT transpired. He said that He's coming "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ... with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is NOT happened.
The fact that these things were not fulfilled in 70A.D. clearly reveals that preterism is heretical - because "ALL these things" did not come to pass in 70A.D. Future fulfillment.
This generation is talking about them. It literally says it. Heaven & earth is talking about the old temple. That represents heaven & earth coming together. That’s what they called the temple. It’s a representation. So yes heaven & earth passed away
Read Luke 21:20-34. Matthew 10:23, 16:27-28 24:30,34 Mark 8:38-9:1 The sun moon & stars are not literally falling from the shy. It’s symbolic. They are prophetic symbols of God’s judgment on empires, governments & institutions & nations. This is found in both the OT & NT. Earthquakes & shaking of heaven & earth describe shaking of kingdoms.
@@911dbaines
PRETERISTS take away from the words of the book of prophecy.
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The problem is that you and the whole Bible Belt need to drop the Theology of millineum we have to understand that in the book of Revelation this word millineum is not literal at all
By collecting all of these different beliefs using the word millineum in a literal understanding is contrary to the word of God
Where and how did all of this hyperboly get started ? It has no place in the kingdom of God
The Bible says those that are led by the spirit of God they are the sons of God.
I'm content in not giving myself a stereotypical identity within the kingdom of God.
The Bible says that the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life
How we identify ourselves as the church now applies to how God sees us in the spirit the Bible says that the carnal mind is enmity against God
The Bible did not say that the martyred Saints were given different color robes it said they were all given white robes
We as the church are all contradicting ourselves and we are all not one spirit in one accord like the Bible says
Amen 🙏!
Hi Dennis,
This particular video was designed to present the postmillennialist perspective. It sounds like you might be closer to the amillennialistic perspective. You might find that a different video in this teaching series more closely reflects your viewpoint: ruclips.net/video/5LGkHNr796Y/видео.html
@Columbus Evangelical Church: I am neither of those different views that you mentioned I just believe in the interpretation of the word of God in spirit and in truth 🙏 Amen !
@@Charles73358 I see where you are coming from, but......
Labels aside, we do need to understand this. Otherwise, how do we correctly interpret modern day Israel? How will we interpret the coming rebuilding of the temple, animal sacrifices? And the eschatology we believe will decide whether the appearance of a certain character will be perceived as Christ Himself or the imposter Christ (Antichrist). If our eternal destiny depends on that, this is a VERY big subject.
Postmillennialism is just as fallacious as Amillennialism.
Both ignore the fact that Rev. 19 depicts the 2nd Advent, and that Rev. 20 depicts what happens chronologically after that.
As for Preterism, it completely IGNORES and ABANDONS the day=year principle that every Reformation and post-Reformation writer on Bible prophecy knew about (including Johnathan Edwards, by the way).
Futurism also ignores the day=year principle for the 1,260 days/42 months/'time, times, half a time' (a time-specific prophecy given 7 TIMES in Scripture: twice in Daniel, and five times in Revelation).
Don't fall for deceptions, brethren!
You are WARNED!
Questions?
Let me know.
*Soli Deo Gloria*
So what's right?
Heavenly Premillennialism.
Along with Historicism.
@@ryangallmeier6647 really? What makes you say that?
@@ExtraordinaryJam Sola Scriptura, of course.
The day=year principle helps here.
Understanding Dan. 2 and 7 helps here.
Understanding the Identity of the "little horn" of Dan. 7, and when it rose to power, helps here.
Understanding that it continued in power for 'a time, times, and half a time' (1,260 literal YEARS) helps here.
Understanding what the Reformers taught concerning this issue, helps here.
Church History and Historical Theology helps here.
I have a few videos on all these issues on my channel. Check 'em out, let me know what you think.
*Soli Deo Gloria*
😂 funny video. I’m a Preterist and we dont go back to the 1800’s 😂
The Rapture already happened???? Uh, no it hasn't.
There is no Rapture mentioned in the Bible.
The Bible tells us we are in the New Creation so on your timeline move us forward all the way to the right. 🙏🙏🇦🇺🦘