These cheap plasma opens a new world for weekend welders such as myself. Couple that with a cheap CNC, you can have yourself a plasma CNC. I built myself a plasma CNC for under $300 including the plasma cutter, kinda insane when you think about it.
@@superbarnie Yep, I posted it on my channel. Not the most most heavy duty industrial one, but cutting out parts for your projects it will work perfectly. $25 GRBL board (mks dlc32) + $20 two NEMA stepper motors + $25 extruded profiles + $15 GT2 belts and wheels. Not much else needed except some frame it goes into. I built mine into a work cart so it doesn't take up space. Maybe if enough interest, I can make a video to give a run-down on how to toss one together for the non-tech people cuz it's not too difficult.
i wish you would have gone into more detail on the settings you were using for each pass as well as what consumables it uses and their cost and availability
I bought one of these a while back I think mine is a different model. But have only used it a time or two. I’m just a weekend warrior between this and my HF welder it will accomplish all my needs. Thanks for sharing
My view of its performance in your well done test: For home hobbiest, it's intended market, that machine is a hell of a good deal. It performed really well out of the box. It includes air pressure adjustment as a cutting parameter which my $899 Harbor freight 45A Titanium Plasma Cutter doesn't have. The cuts looked really good to me. Nobody who needs a production machine would even look at it, and they shouldn't. But for the home hobbiest it's a great value in terms of capability for the buck.
Thanks for the in depth review! The amp draw was much higher than I expected. I may try one though so I can get started. This has to be better than using a Sawzall LOL!
I have this plasma cutter. the pilot arc standoff keeps you from using templates, makes it hard to use straight edges, and relegates you to hand held cuts. It cuts well, but does not measure up to cut tips which can be used with templates. Now that they have the 80amp model, they should bring out their own torch which also has a gouging head, thus moving beyond the cheap plama cutter category into the hypertherm professional plama category.
The standoff on that type of torch is my biggest complaint as well, it's not as good for templates. I asked them and tried it without the standoff just dragging the nozzle. It worked fine for me, but from what I understand, the consumables will take a hit.
I recently lucked into a brand new Gen 2 for $140 from a surplus place. It's 100%, without question, worth that much and more. I can't believe how solid it's been for my uses, I expected it to be kind of junky as they're $300-350 new online.
the one i bought from amazon was $180 and it does everything a Hypertherm machine does, it takes some practice and tweaking with air pressure at first but once you set it up right it does the job.
This seems nice. I like the sophisticated display. I also like that the did the power cord properly, which is that the 240 plug is on the machine and the adapter goes from that to 120. That makes the adapter safer and the 120 plug won’t have to deal with more amperage at 240. As it’s so inexpensive, I wonder how long g it will last. The low efficiency shows that shortcuts were made. If someone uses this occasionally, it should be fine. I do wonder about the warrantee. Will they stand behind the product, or is the paper it’s written on all the warrantee is worth?
It's hard to say how it will hold up. As long as they aren't dead on arrival, it seems like metal dust contamination, temperature swings and physical damage are usually what kills the electronics. For occasional use in a home garage, I imagine it will hold up okay. I don't know if they even offer a warranty beyond the 30 day return, though.
@@TimWelds that lack of warrantees is what concerns me with these, and cheaper machines. Often the web site, if there is one, says to send it back to the manufacturer for warrantee service. Sure, ok.
Great and honest review. I have similar machine (220V ver.) and for most of my metalworking needs thing working flawlessly coupled with 24L 240l/min air compressor. Of course this is not made for industrial use, but for hobby or even small workshop its more than adequate enough to get the job done.
For the $$, it works great. My only upgrade was to put hydraulic hose web covering over the torch lead. The original plastic / vinyl one will melt pretty easily.
Here in Australia, we only have 240volt single phase power,but we do have 10Amp and 15Amp ,there is 415 3 phase for larger machinery, sounds like a decent machine for the price, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
I've got a "CUT50" plasma cutter. It was less than $150 and it's great for anything up to 1/4". Maybe someone who actually knows what they're doing might get better results on thicker material. It really works best on thin stock (1/8" or thinner). Wouldn't recommend for a pro welder, but it meets my needs.
They're definitely hard to beat for the price, especially for light duty (portable) use or for a hobbyist. I picked up the smaller 45-amp (BTC-450) in January when Amazon had it on closeout ($138). At that price, I figured it was well worth the risk. They actually advertised it as non-HF on the Amazon page, but I'm 99% sure that was a typo (manual included says HF). Even so, still worth grabbing. So far, it's worked great. I'm not using it in a shop or anything, but I did use it to cut some 12mm plate when tearing apart an old Caroni mower deck for scrap. Ran surprisingly ok (short durations) on 120, but definitely was way more capable on 240. Both it and the little multi-process welder I have should run fine on a 6kW inverter generator. They'll definitely be handy to have on longer off-road trips.
Always a better cut if you give it a very slight angle so that it undercuts ahead as you go. I used to oxy cut in scrap metal for years and I adapted it to my plasma cutting too. I think these rock, instant cutting as opposed to the oxy torch where you have to heat it up before it will cut.
I don't see the need to pay for a high end unit unless you're a professional that uses them every day. Hobbyists or guys like myself that will use a tool like this maybe once a month the low end units are more than sufficient.
I am eager to watch your upcoming videos because there are plenty of details you've thought could be useful before the presentation. Your tidy shop is very appealing, and I assume it is mainly for presentations. For your own protection it may be useful to cover the ceiling and walls with some sound absorbing material. While chips off sounds could be irritating for your hearing in long term. Excuse me for my over the line suggestion, but you are unbelievably valuable to us (my selfish gene spoke😒.)
Tim - First thanks for showing and explaining this plasma unit . My first question is they also make a 65 amp . What is the difference please ? Can I use a 50 amp breaker with both ?? Second question - do you offer help with welding table design/plans ?? Thanks much
In the video you showed the 110 adapter. Were you cutting with 110 or 220? Also, what is the current draw on 220 if you can look in the book. Thanks a lot
Regarding the “cons” I wish you would have provided alternative examples so we could determine how big an issue they were and options to research those machines. Good video regardless ❤❤
TimWelds.. Well I commented on your other video with using their other Plasma cutter and the CNC table. Like I said they sent me this BTC500DP 7th Gen machine and I was hoping it would work with a CNC table but as you said I guess not. Makes me wonder if they would send me the other machine that can be used on a CNC table. Anyway I still have to work on the video for this one..
Thanks for this. Can you suggest compressor spec's to go with this for home shop 110V use, max. 1/4" plate? Most of the time would be with thinner material, . Thanks
Bigger is generally better, but at a minimum I'd look for one with a 4 CFM pump and 10 gallon tank for intermittent use. I had a Fortress with those specs from Harbor Freight that I used for small cuts with my plasma and it worked. You might have to wait for it to catch up from time to time, though.
That is the same model I picked up about a month ago. The manual recommends 6.0 cf/m. I can get about 16” of cutting in 3/16” steel with a 3.7 scfm @ 90 psi / 8 gallon compressor before I outrun my air supply… and the machine will auto shut down if you run low on air. So you can run it on something smaller, but it starts to hinder you. But I’m doing hobby stuff. So it’s more than adequate if you need something light duty and cheap. This is definitely not a machine for serious work.
What’s crazy is how some of the 110v ones are marketed to “plug into a household outlet” but they pop the breaker at the 35 amp setting. I don’t know of any 110v outlets rated above 20 amp? How can you use it at the high setting based on that?
Exactly, plus using the 220v adapter means that you will be running the full 65 amp current thru a plug designed only for 20a/120v. Yes it will work, but definitely not code approved.. but overall, the unit looks like a quality build, in my cart for Black Friday..
I wonder if you could cut straighter and easier if the metal piece around the torch were turned so that the flat side was up against your guide piece instead of the curved part.
I have a California air tools CAT-20040C, which is more than you would need for home use. I have the shop air at 90 psi, then the regulator on the machine drops it to about 50. It came with consumables and replacements are all over Amazon.
I tried that and it didn't make any difference for me. It seemed like after the arc had transferred to the base metal, the pilot arc had to reinitiate no matter what the pilot arc time was set to.
Strange that the price of the multi proccessor chinese welders keep going down despite the added features but the price of a simple plasma cutters keep going up.
16A at 220 is more than enough. Compressor noise and just the normal blowing sound. I have had my Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 35 for 20 years now. Pay attention to CFM required.
It does have a pilot arc. It is also high frequency start for the pilot arc rather than using moving components in the gun, which is why it is not as well suited for CNC.
I can't help but wonder how many amps it actually puts out. If I measured correctly, my 65 amp version outputs 50 amps max. Mine also pulls 38-40 amps from the wall on 220v. Yeah, it's a cheap machine but no more than I'm going to use it there is no way I could justify the price of a higher end unit.
I can't say for sure, but my guess is that it would work on 1/8" material for intermittent use. Given the high amp draw I saw, it may still overload the circuit on a lower amperage setting.
Hey tim..am about to purchase a AC welding machine but i cant make sense of the specifications written ✍️ on it..i have taken a photo of it was hoping you can help .
Yep, I have an extension cord for my welder since i only have one plug rated for its amperage. Look for RV shore power extension cords, they're usually high amperage and 240v leads.
I bought a Yeswelder 20ft 8 AWG cord on the jungle website for $70, and I use it with a 70A plasma cutter on a CNC table. The longest continuous cut I've done is probably around 8 minutes, cutting 1/4" plate. It never even got warm.
Of course they are. All of Europe is 220 and I got a few 50m cords (roughly 164 feet) which are rated for 16A. You can even get them for 380V 32A, which I have in my garage for power hungry tools ...
The high frequency arc starting can interfere with the electronics on the CNC control system, causing errors. With enough shielding, you could theoretically use it, but it would be cheaper and more reliable to just get one with blowback start. They also have one like that that I reviewed on the channel a couple weeks ago.
Well 50 amp Gen 7 for $188 when I bought my Miller 15 years ago it was over $750 I'd say it's a steal especially my Miller isn't 50 amp Plasma cutter. If I used it a lot I would buy it without reservation.
45 Amps of current? Is crazy. Most 110-120v circuits are only 20amps on 12 gauge wire. Ain’t no way anyone can run that on 110 without burning something up.
Cheap? I bought mine at LIDL for 70€ in February 😂 That should translate more or less 1:1 into $ and includes two years warranty, as this is the minimum by law in Germany.
@@TimWelds It is. And to be honest, that's not the sticker price. Regular price is around 170€ right now on their website (PPS 40 B3). But they ran a sale this February where I just had to buy it. I didn't even own a compressor at the time. Took me another month to get a good deal for one 😅 But it really opened a whole new world of metal working for me as a hobbyist. Btw.: Even their "Professional" device called "PPSK 40 A2" is only 199€. LIDL has been offering some really cheap tools with acceptable quality under the Parkside brand in Germany these last years. Their competition has brought prices of other vendors down a lot as well.
I agree. I was surprised when it blew the breaker. After that happened, I thought it was important to measure the draw and share that info in the video so people know what they're getting. To their credit, it's disclosed in the manual, but I didn't look closely at those specs ahead of time. It has the 15 amp style plug so I just plugged it in.
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These cheap plasma opens a new world for weekend welders such as myself. Couple that with a cheap CNC, you can have yourself a plasma CNC. I built myself a plasma CNC for under $300 including the plasma cutter, kinda insane when you think about it.
Under 300?! Even if the plasma cutter is only $200, can you really build a table and buy motors and a controller for only $100?
@@superbarnie Yep, I posted it on my channel. Not the most most heavy duty industrial one, but cutting out parts for your projects it will work perfectly. $25 GRBL board (mks dlc32) + $20 two NEMA stepper motors + $25 extruded profiles + $15 GT2 belts and wheels. Not much else needed except some frame it goes into. I built mine into a work cart so it doesn't take up space. Maybe if enough interest, I can make a video to give a run-down on how to toss one together for the non-tech people cuz it's not too difficult.
@@kwaaaaI'd be interested in that.
I love these types of videos. Answer every question I have and a lot of questions I didn't even think of.
Hey Tim. I just picked up the Gen 7 on Amazon for $188! Thanks for the info you gave me a couple of weeks ago.
Tim, I very much appreciate and trust your review. I had no idea a plasma cutter could be had at such a price, got me considering for sure.
i wish you would have gone into more detail on the settings you were using for each pass as well as what consumables it uses and their cost and availability
BestArc had HUGE discounts last November and December. I've used mine quite a bit and couldn't be happier.
I bought one of these a while back I think mine is a different model. But have only used it a time or two. I’m just a weekend warrior between this and my HF welder it will accomplish all my needs. Thanks for sharing
My view of its performance in your well done test: For home hobbiest, it's intended market, that machine is a hell of a good deal. It performed really well out of the box. It includes air pressure adjustment as a cutting parameter which my $899 Harbor freight 45A Titanium Plasma Cutter doesn't have. The cuts looked really good to me. Nobody who needs a production machine would even look at it, and they shouldn't. But for the home hobbiest it's a great value in terms of capability for the buck.
Thanks for the in depth review! The amp draw was much higher than I expected. I may try one though so I can get started. This has to be better than using a Sawzall LOL!
Almost....almost passed by. Glad I watched. Very informative, straightforward, and got me off the Fence. You got a new subscriber.
Awesome! Thank you!
I have this plasma cutter. the pilot arc standoff keeps you from using templates, makes it hard to use straight edges, and relegates you to hand held cuts. It cuts well, but does not measure up to cut tips which can be used with templates. Now that they have the 80amp model, they should bring out their own torch which also has a gouging head, thus moving beyond the cheap plama cutter category into the hypertherm professional plama category.
The standoff on that type of torch is my biggest complaint as well, it's not as good for templates. I asked them and tried it without the standoff just dragging the nozzle. It worked fine for me, but from what I understand, the consumables will take a hit.
I recently lucked into a brand new Gen 2 for $140 from a surplus place. It's 100%, without question, worth that much and more. I can't believe how solid it's been for my uses, I expected it to be kind of junky as they're $300-350 new online.
That's a sweet deal!
the one i bought from amazon was $180 and it does everything a Hypertherm machine does, it takes some practice and tweaking with air pressure at first but once you set it up right it does the job.
I'm primarily a woodworker, but I think with 240VAC available, that this would serve almost all my occasional artwork needs .
This cutter would be perfect for my simple needs
This seems nice. I like the sophisticated display. I also like that the did the power cord properly, which is that the 240 plug is on the machine and the adapter goes from that to 120. That makes the adapter safer and the 120 plug won’t have to deal with more amperage at 240. As it’s so inexpensive, I wonder how long g it will last. The low efficiency shows that shortcuts were made. If someone uses this occasionally, it should be fine. I do wonder about the warrantee. Will they stand behind the product, or is the paper it’s written on all the warrantee is worth?
It's hard to say how it will hold up. As long as they aren't dead on arrival, it seems like metal dust contamination, temperature swings and physical damage are usually what kills the electronics. For occasional use in a home garage, I imagine it will hold up okay. I don't know if they even offer a warranty beyond the 30 day return, though.
@@TimWelds that lack of warrantees is what concerns me with these, and cheaper machines. Often the web site, if there is one, says to send it back to the manufacturer for warrantee service. Sure, ok.
Great and honest review. I have similar machine (220V ver.) and for most of my metalworking needs thing working flawlessly coupled with 24L 240l/min air compressor. Of course this is not made for industrial use, but for hobby or even small workshop its more than adequate enough to get the job done.
For the $$, it works great. My only upgrade was to put hydraulic hose web covering over the torch lead. The original plastic / vinyl one will melt pretty easily.
Here in Australia, we only have 240volt single phase power,but we do have 10Amp and 15Amp ,there is 415 3 phase for larger machinery, sounds like a decent machine for the price, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Great video. Thanks for the demo and thorough review.
Dayummmm! you posted this just after I bought my cutter........ ah well. its a learning curve lol
Great video!
It’s been a great machine in my shop. I just upgraded to a PrimeWeld cut 60.
I've got a "CUT50" plasma cutter. It was less than $150 and it's great for anything up to 1/4". Maybe someone who actually knows what they're doing might get better results on thicker material. It really works best on thin stock (1/8" or thinner). Wouldn't recommend for a pro welder, but it meets my needs.
What are you using for an air compressor, and what are the specfics of the compressor, gallon, hp, scfm at 90psi, etc..?
They're definitely hard to beat for the price, especially for light duty (portable) use or for a hobbyist. I picked up the smaller 45-amp (BTC-450) in January when Amazon had it on closeout ($138). At that price, I figured it was well worth the risk.
They actually advertised it as non-HF on the Amazon page, but I'm 99% sure that was a typo (manual included says HF). Even so, still worth grabbing.
So far, it's worked great. I'm not using it in a shop or anything, but I did use it to cut some 12mm plate when tearing apart an old Caroni mower deck for scrap. Ran surprisingly ok (short durations) on 120, but definitely was way more capable on 240.
Both it and the little multi-process welder I have should run fine on a 6kW inverter generator. They'll definitely be handy to have on longer off-road trips.
Thanks for sharing! Seems like a good unit for weekend projects.
Always a better cut if you give it a very slight angle so that it undercuts ahead as you go. I used to oxy cut in scrap metal for years and I adapted it to my plasma cutting too. I think these rock, instant cutting as opposed to the oxy torch where you have to heat it up before it will cut.
I don't see the need to pay for a high end unit unless you're a professional that uses them every day. Hobbyists or guys like myself that will use a tool like this maybe once a month the low end units are more than sufficient.
I am eager to watch your upcoming videos because there are plenty of details you've thought could be useful before the presentation. Your tidy shop is very appealing, and I assume it is mainly for presentations. For your own protection it may be useful to cover the ceiling and walls with some sound absorbing material. While chips off sounds could be irritating for your hearing in long term. Excuse me for my over the line suggestion, but you are unbelievably valuable to us (my selfish gene spoke😒.)
Tim - First thanks for showing and explaining this plasma unit . My first question is they also make a 65 amp . What is the difference please ? Can I use a 50 amp breaker with both ??
Second question - do you offer help with welding table design/plans ?? Thanks much
In the video you showed the 110 adapter. Were you cutting with 110 or 220? Also, what is the current draw on 220 if you can look in the book. Thanks a lot
Regarding the “cons” I wish you would have provided alternative examples so we could determine how big an issue they were and options to research those machines. Good video regardless ❤❤
TimWelds.. Well I commented on your other video with using their other Plasma cutter and the CNC table. Like I said they sent me this BTC500DP 7th Gen machine and I was hoping it would work with a CNC table but as you said I guess not. Makes me wonder if they would send me the other machine that can be used on a CNC table. Anyway I still have to work on the video for this one..
Hey Renegade! The HF starting can interfere with the electronics on some CNC tables. Both of them worked really well for the price, though.
Thank you for the info. Great presentation about the pros and cons.
Thanks for this. Can you suggest compressor spec's to go with this for home shop 110V use, max. 1/4" plate? Most of the time would be with thinner material, . Thanks
Bigger is generally better, but at a minimum I'd look for one with a 4 CFM pump and 10 gallon tank for intermittent use. I had a Fortress with those specs from Harbor Freight that I used for small cuts with my plasma and it worked. You might have to wait for it to catch up from time to time, though.
@@TimWelds Thanks for the reply and info. Really appreciate what you do for us via your channel. 🍻
That is the same model I picked up about a month ago. The manual recommends 6.0 cf/m. I can get about 16” of cutting in 3/16” steel with a 3.7 scfm @ 90 psi / 8 gallon compressor before I outrun my air supply… and the machine will auto shut down if you run low on air. So you can run it on something smaller, but it starts to hinder you.
But I’m doing hobby stuff. So it’s more than adequate if you need something light duty and cheap. This is definitely not a machine for serious work.
@@rb5029-h1i Cool, Thanks. Def. shady tree level only over here
I have a question, if you disconnect the pilot arc connection, can the torch be used as a contact drag for tracing templates?
What compressor are you running with this machine ?
It's a 20 gallon 4 hp California Air Tools compressor. It's more than you really need for this, but it's been a great quiet unit for my home shop.
Great video. This is nice to see as I cannot really afford one of the really expensive ones. Thanks
Great video, Tim. Thanks!
What size of air compressor is needed? Would a pancake compressor be sufficient?
I might have to get one of these but i'll have to get a small air compressor first.
I’m gonna see about getting this working with the MPCNC lowrider
What’s crazy is how some of the 110v ones are marketed to “plug into a household outlet” but they pop the breaker at the 35 amp setting. I don’t know of any 110v outlets rated above 20 amp? How can you use it at the high setting based on that?
Exactly, plus using the 220v adapter means that you will be running the full 65 amp current thru a plug designed only for 20a/120v. Yes it will work, but definitely not code approved.. but overall, the unit looks like a quality build, in my cart for Black Friday..
I wonder if you could cut straighter and easier if the metal piece around the torch were turned so that the flat side was up against your guide piece instead of the curved part.
Tim, how easy is to get parts and consumables for this?
Their welder is awesome but the mig lead on it us super short. They have a new one they're working on coming out in a few months.
Did you try the 4T setting for the expanded metal?
what type of air comp were u using? what psi on the air comp were u using?? did u order consumables for it, were they readily avail???
I have a California air tools CAT-20040C, which is more than you would need for home use. I have the shop air at 90 psi, then the regulator on the machine drops it to about 50. It came with consumables and replacements are all over Amazon.
How much cfm is required?
Hi Tim, is your table grounded
Great review. Men n boys price of toys
Would increasing the pilot arc time help with cutting the expanded metal?
I tried that and it didn't make any difference for me. It seemed like after the arc had transferred to the base metal, the pilot arc had to reinitiate no matter what the pilot arc time was set to.
What's happening with your new videos, been a while, all the best to you and your loved ones
Thanks for asking, I appreciate it! I have a lot of videos planned and I'm fitting them in as I can between other work. All the best to you as well.
Strange that the price of the multi proccessor chinese welders keep going down despite the added features but the price of a simple plasma cutters keep going up.
I'm new to this.does plasma cutter only need air from regular compressure?
Yes, it just has to have sufficient capacity which depends on the specific plasma cutter, usually about 5-6 CFM at 90 psi.
Will it work good with a 16A braker/fuse and 220V? How noisy is plasma cutting?
16A at 220 is more than enough.
Compressor noise and just the normal blowing sound.
I have had my Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 35 for 20 years now.
Pay attention to CFM required.
Tim how come i never hear your compressor kick on?
I could hear it
It's a pretty quiet one as far as compressors go, but it was running.
Amazon shows this as a pilot arc. Is that not right?
It does have a pilot arc. It is also high frequency start for the pilot arc rather than using moving components in the gun, which is why it is not as well suited for CNC.
I can't help but wonder how many amps it actually puts out. If I measured correctly, my 65 amp version outputs 50 amps max.
Mine also pulls 38-40 amps from the wall on 220v.
Yeah, it's a cheap machine but no more than I'm going to use it there is no way I could justify the price of a higher end unit.
I should have tested that when I had it hooked up. I've checked some cheap stick welders before and they fell quite a bit short of the mark.
How thick can you cut on a 15 amp breaker?
I can't say for sure, but my guess is that it would work on 1/8" material for intermittent use. Given the high amp draw I saw, it may still overload the circuit on a lower amperage setting.
Is it possible to connect this machine to a 220v outlet?
Nevermind it does 👍
Hey tim..am about to purchase a AC welding machine but i cant make sense of the specifications written ✍️ on it..i have taken a photo of it was hoping you can help .
Send me an email at the address in my bio and I'll see if I can help.
How to control the welding electrodes stub length below 50mm
Please Tell me
I'm not completely sure what you mean; wouldn't you just keep welding until you're getting really close to the electrode holder?
I got the same crap ground clamp with a $700 welder...
Ain't that just how things are going.
Can you get a better torch?
If you get their better one with blow back start, you could upgrade the torch. I don't think you can upgrade this one to anything that's much better.
How about "cast iron?"
How come it's an "HF start", when there is clearly a pilot arc?
Im already out on the cheap display protector
I got 220 in my garage - are 220 extension cords a thing since this has a short cable?
Yep, I have an extension cord for my welder since i only have one plug rated for its amperage. Look for RV shore power extension cords, they're usually high amperage and 240v leads.
Yes
I bought a Yeswelder 20ft 8 AWG cord on the jungle website for $70, and I use it with a 70A plasma cutter on a CNC table. The longest continuous cut I've done is probably around 8 minutes, cutting 1/4" plate. It never even got warm.
There are a ton of them on Amazon when you search Welder extension cord.
Of course they are. All of Europe is 220 and I got a few 50m cords (roughly 164 feet) which are rated for 16A. You can even get them for 380V 32A, which I have in my garage for power hungry tools ...
For a shade tree welder this seem doable
Why is this high frequency plasma cutter, no good for a cnc table?
The high frequency arc starting can interfere with the electronics on the CNC control system, causing errors. With enough shielding, you could theoretically use it, but it would be cheaper and more reliable to just get one with blowback start. They also have one like that that I reviewed on the channel a couple weeks ago.
Well 50 amp Gen 7 for $188 when I bought my Miller 15 years ago it was over $750 I'd say it's a steal especially my Miller isn't 50 amp Plasma cutter. If I used it a lot I would buy it without reservation.
I think it did a mighty job for such a cheap machine.
I agree, for what it is, it worked good.
Wawwww,, ! I like it 👍
45 Amps of current? Is crazy. Most 110-120v circuits are only 20amps on 12 gauge wire. Ain’t no way anyone can run that on 110 without burning something up.
Cheap? I bought mine at LIDL for 70€ in February 😂
That should translate more or less 1:1 into $ and includes two years warranty, as this is the minimum by law in Germany.
That's a great deal!
@@TimWelds It is. And to be honest, that's not the sticker price. Regular price is around 170€ right now on their website (PPS 40 B3). But they ran a sale this February where I just had to buy it. I didn't even own a compressor at the time. Took me another month to get a good deal for one 😅
But it really opened a whole new world of metal working for me as a hobbyist.
Btw.: Even their "Professional" device called "PPSK 40 A2" is only 199€.
LIDL has been offering some really cheap tools with acceptable quality under the Parkside brand in Germany these last years. Their competition has brought prices of other vendors down a lot as well.
Arc captain cut 50
It blew the twenty amp cause you need a 30amp
40 amps 120, melting wires in your walls, in no way should this be used that way
I agree. I was surprised when it blew the breaker. After that happened, I thought it was important to measure the draw and share that info in the video so people know what they're getting. To their credit, it's disclosed in the manual, but I didn't look closely at those specs ahead of time. It has the 15 amp style plug so I just plugged it in.
@@TimWelds I do think i need one of those though lol