I use these for a use case where I need the specific capabilities of a certain webcam but I need to transmit the signal over ndi. Sadly, they seem to be rather unstable and I have had to go back to using separate uvc to to hdmi encoder connected to an hdmi to ndi encoder. Hopefully a firmware update will resolve the issues.
Brother is video a series of still images as l learned that in video nothing is actually moving our brain gives optical illusion of motion is it true ?
Video is indeed a series of still images played rapidly to create the illusion of motion. Our brains are amazing at processing these visuals seamlessly.
There is an NDI decoder that you can connect a camera via HDMI 4K called the Zowiebox and it’s only $170. A lot cheaper than going HDMI to Capture card to OSBOT box. Only use for this would be to connect a webcam. You are right. There is no use for OSBOT other than connecting a webcam and very expensive to connect just a webcam via NDI. Buy a Tail Air instead. Works NDI, Webcam and HDMI out. Cheaper to do that if you want a webcam with NDI.
Maybe, depending on the amount of USB ports you have available and you need to plug multiple webcams to a computer, this could be useful. Then Again, this probably is a small niche product
You feel the box is almost useless. I don’t want you to think of this as something that you run everyday. I want you to think of this as a tester like a multi-meter or something that you use to ensure something is working. Or let’s say you have many different cameras in different areas but you all wanted them connected via NDI. You halfway used it in that configuration also it seems VERY user friendly so you could give it someone with the appropriate adapters and network admin can better achieve your goal. It’s $400 why? HDMI to NDI is expensive and (maybe?) it alone can power up to 25 watts. Power Over Ethernet (POE) is expensive to build, develop, and cool something that you experienced with plugging it in (fan kicks on 4:30). Take a look at a normal network switch and POE switch you’ll see the difference in price and quality. HDMI to NDI: All options after an initial Google search (I didn’t go past page 2) are a minimum of 400 USD. I did see some ads on Chinese websites but I don’t think they will be able to 4k. USB-C cable disclaimer: Not all USB-C cables are the same. Please mark this cable with electrical tape and put it on the Power Delivery Port and the USB wall charger to make it easier for end users. SD Card Use (4:30): In accordance with the documentation with the use of “NDI Studio Monitor”, its supposedly allows: “Simultaneous Micro SD Card Recording - Never miss a moment with the Micro SD card recording feature. Capture and store livestream videos simultaneously, ensuring reliable backup for your valuable content.” POE doesn’t work (5:02): You accidentally left the USB-C power in when you demoed this and it shows the Ethernet traffic lights light up. Maybe you need to remote into it manually to activate it? This is confusing for me also because in the documentation it says it has “contact interface” POE but it doesn’t denote it’s able to supply or receive POE. Another user, Zentient1 (OBSBOT UVC to NDI Adapter) mentions it but I am unsure if he was able to get it to work because no green/red light was on. I think it may require more power than what you supplied it with (25W is on their webpage). The heat that you mention makes me think it’s able to supply it. Try powering a POE camera and connect using your computer to see if it works. I would use whatever you use your POE switch for or get a high quality/demand POE camera for reviews to stress test products . I think the new standard for POE now is 25W per port for future proofing. Tripod holder: I would recommend using this and using it to get it up and away from other heat producing devices not to overheat this device. Powering it on: It’s POE that fan you hear is cooling the 25W it’s automatically applying to the included Ethernet port. It’s easier to always have it on to prevent overheating than wait for a sensor to tell it to kick on. Web Center/NDI Studio Monitor: I would have appreciated a tour of it. Maybe this is where the options are to turn off POE to ensure the power/heat isn’t being applied when not needed and SD card settings are. Why would you use this examples: 1: You are a part of a church or event and have multiple POE cameras with no open ports on your POE switches and a camera fails. How do you tell where the failure is? Is it the port, cable, switch, or camera? With this device you can troubleshoot the cable and the camera. If you can’t connect to the POE camera over the original Ethernet cable you can take a makeshift one with this tiny device and check it locally. Reducing the time troubleshooting and having a single backup on standby. 2: You might be able to remote into this using your phone for an expensive remote security application with redundant SD card back up. OBSBOT seems to be going all in with moving gimbal camera setups. I wouldn't be surprised if they started manufacturing security cameras with the POE option. If someone were to take your camera they would have the local storage but having this with the SD card allows local backups not reliant on cloud infrastructure. 3: Your use case! Your normal computer/computer/webcam fails and you need to set up a remote one quickly. It seems to work just fine as you commented. Your probable option (08:30) I think is the use case. HDMI to NDI is still very expensive. The last bit you mentioned (11:30) is great that you experimented with it!!! Love that it works but I would still be worried about the heat it produces for make shift events. I would have liked to see that not only the Video was transmitting but also the audio just a 3-6 second clip of the audio from the other camera showing that it passes the information correctly Maybe more settings are in the device manager: Go to "device_name.local" in the browser, like "ndi_adapter_5994b6.local". The default device name is "NDI_Adapter_XXXXXXXX”, where "XXXXXX" is the last six digits of the adapter's MAC address, visible on the device. Here are my questions: Can you plug two cameras into the device? The same means of your probable option one into the USB-C and another one using the same kind of setup but into the USB Type A connector (using the provided C to A connector). Or what happens if you plug in a thunderbolt adapter into the data connector side and just load up on all the cameras you have? (This could be a bad idea heat generation wise.) Can you disable POE and does the POE work? That heat generation is an issue, I don’t want to burn anyone or cause any fires. POE allows less cables for the end user the easier set up it will be for them. Can you pass data on the “power side” of the USB-C? Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. A good example is phones if you have an adapter to split the data and power you can use it as another port. Depends on how the USB-C was wired to the board.
The Zowiebox does everything you are mentioning including recording to sd, POE and even streams. It only cost $170 and a 10 times better value than this box. I have 3 of them and stream my mirrorless cameras via NDI. Works flawlessly at 4K and I bought 3 for the price of one of one OSBOT box and a capture card / HDMI converter .
@@LiveProductionTips It’s available on Amazon. I tried to post a link but RUclips blocked it. There are several RUclips Videos about it. It’s called the Zowiebox 4K.
I use these for a use case where I need the specific capabilities of a certain webcam but I need to transmit the signal over ndi. Sadly, they seem to be rather unstable and I have had to go back to using separate uvc to to hdmi encoder connected to an hdmi to ndi encoder. Hopefully a firmware update will resolve the issues.
@@chaoticaaronstout It’s awesome to hear someone using this feature. Have you reached out to OBSBOT support ?
Brother is video a series of still images as l learned that in video nothing is actually moving our brain gives optical illusion of motion is it true ?
Video is indeed a series of still images played rapidly to create the illusion of motion. Our brains are amazing at processing these visuals seamlessly.
There is an NDI decoder that you can connect a camera via HDMI 4K called the Zowiebox and it’s only $170. A lot cheaper than going HDMI to Capture card to OSBOT box. Only use for this would be to connect a webcam. You are right. There is no use for OSBOT other than connecting a webcam and very expensive to connect just a webcam via NDI. Buy a Tail Air instead. Works NDI, Webcam and HDMI out. Cheaper to do that if you want a webcam with NDI.
I will definitely check out the Zowie Box
I have the same question because it doesn't make any sense to me.
@@couplegymagadarek1618 yea so I am not the only one
This was a funny one lol 😂 i lauged at the intro lol
😂😂😂 why did you laugh 🙈
Maybe, depending on the amount of USB ports you have available and you need to plug multiple webcams to a computer, this could be useful. Then Again, this probably is a small niche product
Agreed
You feel the box is almost useless.
I don’t want you to think of this as something that you run everyday. I want you to think of this as a tester like a multi-meter or something that you use to ensure something is working. Or let’s say you have many different cameras in different areas but you all wanted them connected via NDI. You halfway used it in that configuration also it seems VERY user friendly so you could give it someone with the appropriate adapters and network admin can better achieve your goal.
It’s $400 why?
HDMI to NDI is expensive and (maybe?) it alone can power up to 25 watts. Power Over Ethernet (POE) is expensive to build, develop, and cool something that you experienced with plugging it in (fan kicks on 4:30). Take a look at a normal network switch and POE switch you’ll see the difference in price and quality.
HDMI to NDI:
All options after an initial Google search (I didn’t go past page 2) are a minimum of 400 USD. I did see some ads on Chinese websites but I don’t think they will be able to 4k.
USB-C cable disclaimer:
Not all USB-C cables are the same. Please mark this cable with electrical tape and put it on the Power Delivery Port and the USB wall charger to make it easier for end users.
SD Card Use (4:30):
In accordance with the documentation with the use of “NDI Studio Monitor”, its supposedly allows:
“Simultaneous Micro SD Card Recording - Never miss a moment with the Micro SD card recording feature. Capture and store livestream videos simultaneously, ensuring reliable backup for your valuable content.”
POE doesn’t work (5:02):
You accidentally left the USB-C power in when you demoed this and it shows the Ethernet traffic lights light up. Maybe you need to remote into it manually to activate it?
This is confusing for me also because in the documentation it says it has “contact interface” POE but it doesn’t denote it’s able to supply or receive POE. Another user, Zentient1 (OBSBOT UVC to NDI Adapter) mentions it but I am unsure if he was able to get it to work because no green/red light was on. I think it may require more power than what you supplied it with (25W is on their webpage). The heat that you mention makes me think it’s able to supply it.
Try powering a POE camera and connect using your computer to see if it works. I would use whatever you use your POE switch for or get a high quality/demand POE camera for reviews to stress test products . I think the new standard for POE now is 25W per port for future proofing.
Tripod holder:
I would recommend using this and using it to get it up and away from other heat producing devices not to overheat this device.
Powering it on:
It’s POE that fan you hear is cooling the 25W it’s automatically applying to the included Ethernet port. It’s easier to always have it on to prevent overheating than wait for a sensor to tell it to kick on.
Web Center/NDI Studio Monitor:
I would have appreciated a tour of it. Maybe this is where the options are to turn off POE to ensure the power/heat isn’t being applied when not needed and SD card settings are.
Why would you use this examples:
1: You are a part of a church or event and have multiple POE cameras with no open ports on your POE switches and a camera fails. How do you tell where the failure is? Is it the port, cable, switch, or camera? With this device you can troubleshoot the cable and the camera. If you can’t connect to the POE camera over the original Ethernet cable you can take a makeshift one with this tiny device and check it locally. Reducing the time troubleshooting and having a single backup on standby.
2: You might be able to remote into this using your phone for an expensive remote security application with redundant SD card back up. OBSBOT seems to be going all in with moving gimbal camera setups. I wouldn't be surprised if they started manufacturing security cameras with the POE option. If someone were to take your camera they would have the local storage but having this with the SD card allows local backups not reliant on cloud infrastructure.
3: Your use case! Your normal computer/computer/webcam fails and you need to set up a remote one quickly. It seems to work just fine as you commented.
Your probable option (08:30) I think is the use case. HDMI to NDI is still very expensive. The last bit you mentioned (11:30) is great that you experimented with it!!! Love that it works but I would still be worried about the heat it produces for make shift events. I would have liked to see that not only the Video was transmitting but also the audio just a 3-6 second clip of the audio from the other camera showing that it passes the information correctly Maybe more settings are in the device manager:
Go to "device_name.local" in the browser, like "ndi_adapter_5994b6.local". The default device name is "NDI_Adapter_XXXXXXXX”, where "XXXXXX" is the last six digits of the adapter's MAC address, visible on the device.
Here are my questions:
Can you plug two cameras into the device? The same means of your probable option one into the USB-C and another one using the same kind of setup but into the USB Type A connector (using the provided C to A connector). Or what happens if you plug in a thunderbolt adapter into the data connector side and just load up on all the cameras you have? (This could be a bad idea heat generation wise.)
Can you disable POE and does the POE work? That heat generation is an issue, I don’t want to burn anyone or cause any fires. POE allows less cables for the end user the easier set up it will be for them.
Can you pass data on the “power side” of the USB-C? Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. A good example is phones if you have an adapter to split the data and power you can use it as another port. Depends on how the USB-C was wired to the board.
The Zowiebox does everything you are mentioning including recording to sd, POE and even streams. It only cost $170 and a 10 times better value than this box. I have 3 of them and stream my mirrorless cameras via NDI. Works flawlessly at 4K and I bought 3 for the price of one of one OSBOT box and a capture card / HDMI converter .
@RetiredLifeinMexicoNOBULL where can you buy the zowie box ?
@@LiveProductionTips It’s available on Amazon. I tried to post a link but RUclips blocked it. There are several RUclips Videos about it. It’s called the Zowiebox 4K.