Did some quick reading and this was a popular explanation. Not taking credit for it just passing it along. "Toyota lug nuts are carbon steel covered with a thin shell veneer of stainless steel sheet. Impactwrenches tend to pound the thin stainless covering against the steel lug nut until it thins and distorts."
Your 100% correct no need to look any further. Now who should pay for the fix is the question Toyota should give them at cost but if it will happen again look for a different option
Congratulations on 20k!! Just had my lug nuts replaced yesterday on my 15 platinum. My dealership ordered a new set off of amazon for half the price . May want to check into that as an option.
I have 2015 tundra with about 110,000 miles. I just had the lug nuts replaced for the same reason. The stock ones have an outer case that will get water under it and expand. Make sure you don't get the same kind, you want all one piece. I paid almost $200
Lug nuts tend to get messed up because of shops over torquing the nuts with impact guns. This is one reason I purchase my tires from discount tire (America’s tire in California) they hand torque lug nuts as their company policy. Toyota dealership replaced my wheel locks after 15k under warranty. Suspect that the techs were over torquing.
Hey Mark, regarding this matter another issue that I guess you never point out is that is kind of dangerous to lift the truck by the front tires with the jack, I have modified suspension and rotate the tires and is always an issue to lift my 2014 Crew Tundra, look closely to yours and you will realize that there is not safe spot to place the jack.....Also in the bed of the truck in each corner the anchors are way way to low, only if they can move them at least 12 inches up will be more useful ......I have more stuff to pass on to you, later
Mark thank you for posting the video. I appreciate all the help everyone has posted. I think I will try a local tire shop and check the auto part store. These are the factory wheels and lugs. And my prior two Toyota’s where our family vehicles that we put those miles on and had bought used.
This is very common: I learned this the hard way with my sienna, the chrome portion of the nut that is visible is a decorative cover, it is covering the real steel nut. Over time the decorative Crome cover swells and becomes to large for the lug wrench that came with the car. Yes crazy but true, you can order knock off lugs on eBay to save a few bucks. I did that for my sienna , they match the factory nuts perfectly
11' and 12' Camry both had same issue, bought new ones on Amazon, all good. Biggest concern for me is if I ever got a flat and the tire iron wouldn't work.
It’s very common with these stainless clad lugs. First thing I throw in the trash! The dealership likely caused the issue using an incorrect socket with their impact guns. This causes the plating to start being forced around the flats of the actual nut underneath. I hate this design and for the life of me cannot understand why Toyota uses them. Has caused many hours of consternation over the years working on others vehicles.
Hey yes I had the same issue with my 2016 tundra Xspx but I didn’t buy them from dealer I went on eBay and got them for $100 and they are better quality than the ones from the dealer these will not swell
$300 for Lugnuts... yikes! I purchased "20 New Toyota Tundra Sequoia Factory OEM Polished Stainless Lug Nuts 2007-2015" a while back for $65.00 on ebay. Notice that I mentioned "Stainless Steel" as the material. I can HIGHLY recommend you seek these out as they will not rust and/or corrode like regular sreel! Search carefully and you shall find... just make sure you can return if they do not fit or you are not satisfied!
I'm just impressed w the mileage thats no small potatoes. 30-40k a year. A f150 w that kinda. Mileage and other Toyotas. Gosh hes a traveling sales man
Deon Baker I love my Toyota the F150’s did ok but I aka ways had Transmission issues with then at 150 and above. The highlander we bought used with 70k on it. And the Fj was a tank lol.
If these are factory wheels and factory lug nuts sounds like it should be Toyota's problem to fix. If they are putting different metals that don't play well together than they caused the issue not the customer.
Mine is also a 2016 with 90k miles and I don't have any issues with mine. I would suggest eBay for new lugnuts. Last time I checked a set of 20 oem takeoffs were selling around $60
@@antoniomontesinos707 yea 17k .I work from home. Or else would kept my 2013.5 camry if put it technical by dealership lol.. and been car payment free by now lol.. got 4 more years left. I took it out of town so got 3k mileage on that trip. But do side jobs on weekend. So where mileage came from .
The lug nuts should be replaced completely!! I bought all new lug nuts with a 2011 Tundra, due to Toyota lug nuts premature rusting our!! Do not buy Toyota parts, I bought non -Toyota and never had an issue since! I also had to replace the total Toyota exhaust because known problems were premature rusting out exhaust systems after 20,000 miles only! I bought Bola stainless exhaust and perfect no more issues on lug nuts or w gaudy system! Problem solved!! 💯😇😇😇👍🏽💜💜💜
I think the problem is they where put on with impact too tight. And yeah shops do over tighten your lugs with impacts and if Toyota is the only ones doing your tires. They are probably the ones that ruined your lug nuts.
I have heard of it. Buy better & less expensive replacements. I have the plastic center caps on my '12 trd off road wheels degrading. Look like they are covered in soap. $ 85 each new but can get very nicely used for $ 20.
first time I've ever heard of such a thing. Somethings rotten in Denmark and if this is true then Toyota is the culprits to blame. Had a dodge Ram 1500 for 15 years and 260K on it never having such an issue.
Not sure this is the answer but I know if two different alloys are touching each other a corrosion effect takes place. Not sure this could cause swelling but over time this would degrade the metal
If they are OEM lug-nuts, that sounds like a TOYOTA problem to me. No way an OEM part should cause a problem for itself like that. It is true that dissimilar metals can have a corrosive effect, but that should not a problem for the consumer. That should be a recall issue.
yes the lug nuts are made steel and a cover in chrome it rusts under the chrome and u cant get a any tools To remove the lug nuts u can get them cheaper online on it u can get lugnuts cheaper online
Just like the hospitals listing Ammonia as COVI for the $39,000.00 paycheck. The dealer is looking for a payday, I bet they have e a really nice showroom?
Rick Ortiz 👍🏻 gotcha Rick, I actually enjoy driving on long trips myself. I’m constantly driving from Washington to Montana in my Tundra, and it fits me perfectly. The most comfortable car I’ve ever owned. Thx
When dissimilar metals come in contact with one another, a corrosion cell is created. An example being a drycell battery. The electrolyte (moisture) will dictate the rate and severity of the corrosion. Cold wet climates, especially where road salts are used, experience the most severe issues. This corrosion or rust as it's commonly known, can cause pitting, disbondment of a coating or delamination of metal. And yes, this is Toyota's fault. Poor engineering and selection of materials. They have a rust warranty on body panels and frame (remember that issue?), but would stock lug nuts be part of that? Call Toyota's Customer Helpline and complain about it. Maybe they'll be motivated when you tell them how many Toyota vehicles you have owned. It's worth a try. The dealership won't do squat about it for sure.
Bought my 2015 2 years ago used. There was actually a recall on my vin for swollen lug nuts and they were replaced under the recall from the previous owner
I've never heard of lug nuts swelling but I'd go to a tire shop talk to them and if needed to replace they'll probably be cheaper than the dealership or AutoZone has them for $3 a piece
Once I researched the issue, I bumped into an article which explained in detail what a swollen lug nut is, why and how it can happen. Here is a link to the article, and the recommended solutions. agradetools.com/swollen-lug-nuts-fix/ This has been common with Ford trucks, and at a lesser rate with other manufacturers like Dodges, Chryslers, and Toyotas. I have noticed this was happening to vehicles made prior to 2017, so it could have been addressed and remedied since then with newer vehicles? I am sure ebay and amazon have same quality as oem parts available for a much cheaper price.
I had this happen on my 2001 Tundra I replace my stock wheels and nuts with some Discount tire wheels and nuts and broke two lug bolts trying to get the nuts off very tight like they were cross threaded.
I had a couple Lugnuts get messed up by the dealer on my truck and I messed up a couple rotating my tires. Yes that is the accurate price at the dealer about 15 bucks apiece. I found a complete set of brand new Lugnuts for under $35 on eBay. I ordered them and they were just fine on my wheels. I couldn’t tell any difference between the factory Lugnuts and OEM appearance Lugnuts that I bought off of eBay. I will attach a link to these Lugnuts. www.ebay.com/itm/142371585511
I never had this issue on the Tundra I used to own. But our company has a bunch of Ford Escapes with lug nut swelling and we found out that Ford had a class action lawsuit in the problem. Folks who had flat tires could not change out to their spare as the supplied wheel nut wrench that came with vehicle could not take off the lugs nuts due to the swelling. fordauthority.com/2019/08/ford-lug-nuts-from-dismissed-lawsuit-still-pose-problems/
That is not good. I don't have any information for the guy, but I do know I'd be pretty upset if 20 of my lug nuts all needed replacing. They simply don't make things like they used to.
Damn those rims will be swelling soon too then. What a bunch of bogus BS. I would really be interested in some detailed close pics of the lugnuts and the nut who mentioned this.
What? It is by FAR the most reliable pick up of the last 15 years! You will not find another model that comes even remotely close to comparing with the Tundra! Are they perfect? No, but they are pretty damn close!
Did some quick reading and this was a popular explanation. Not taking credit for it just passing it along. "Toyota lug nuts are carbon steel covered with a thin shell veneer of stainless steel sheet. Impactwrenches tend to pound the thin stainless covering against the steel lug nut until it thins and distorts."
Your 100% correct no need to look any further. Now who should pay for the fix is the question Toyota should give them at cost but if it will happen again look for a different option
Thanks for the help guys I asked about the warranty and of course got the spill of how it’s not covered.
@@rickortiz5778 where are you located?
hrv 2017 KY
hrv 2017 Kentucky
Congratulations on 20k!! Just had my lug nuts replaced yesterday on my 15 platinum. My dealership ordered a new set off of amazon for half the price . May want to check into that as an option.
No lug nut issue but a fairly common issue with LCA on FJ’s. Same issue with dissimilar metals.
I've always had Bull Balls swelling on my 2011 Red Rock Warrior, it's something really impossible to stop for that year!
I have 2015 tundra with about 110,000 miles. I just had the lug nuts replaced for the same reason. The stock ones have an outer case that will get water under it and expand. Make sure you don't get the same kind, you want all one piece. I paid almost $200
For that matter I have a few sets. Happy to send him one for cheap.
That price sounds pretty high but swelling lugnuts is a common problem on any lugnuts that use a cap over a steel nut.
Lug nuts tend to get messed up because of shops over torquing the nuts with impact guns. This is one reason I purchase my tires from discount tire (America’s tire in California) they hand torque lug nuts as their company policy. Toyota dealership replaced my wheel locks after 15k under warranty. Suspect that the techs were over torquing.
Hey Mark, regarding this matter another issue that I guess you never point out is that is kind of dangerous to lift the truck by the front tires with the jack, I have modified suspension and rotate the tires and is always an issue to lift my 2014 Crew Tundra, look closely to yours and you will realize that there is not safe spot to place the jack.....Also in the bed of the truck in each corner the anchors are way way to low, only if they can move them at least 12 inches up will be more useful ......I have more stuff to pass on to you, later
Mark thank you for posting the video. I appreciate all the help everyone has posted. I think I will try a local tire shop and check the auto part store.
These are the factory wheels and lugs. And my prior two Toyota’s where our family vehicles that we put those miles on and had bought used.
happened on my 2010 ford f150 impact gun could not get them off been there it does happen
I've had to replace two lug nuts because of this issue. One was at 65k and another but at 70 k.
Lot of guys on the 4runner forums run into this after putting on aftermarket wheels or cheap lug nuts off ebay.
This is very common: I learned this the hard way with my sienna, the chrome portion of the nut that is visible is a decorative cover, it is covering the real steel nut. Over time the decorative Crome cover swells and becomes to large for the lug wrench that came with the car. Yes crazy but true, you can order knock off lugs on eBay to save a few bucks. I did that for my sienna , they match the factory nuts perfectly
Matt C thanks Matt
11' and 12' Camry both had same issue, bought new ones on Amazon, all good. Biggest concern for me is if I ever got a flat and the tire iron wouldn't work.
Yes that has happened to my wife’s 2010 highlander. I checked it out myself and it is true. I ordered them on sparks parts and was only like $60
It’s very common with these stainless clad lugs. First thing I throw in the trash! The dealership likely caused the issue using an incorrect socket with their impact guns. This causes the plating to start being forced around the flats of the actual nut underneath. I hate this design and for the life of me cannot understand why Toyota uses them. Has caused many hours of consternation over the years working on others vehicles.
Sounds like a dealership hustle !
Hey yes I had the same issue with my 2016 tundra Xspx but I didn’t buy them from dealer I went on eBay and got them for $100 and they are better quality than the ones from the dealer these will not swell
$300 for Lugnuts... yikes!
I purchased "20 New Toyota Tundra Sequoia Factory OEM Polished Stainless Lug Nuts 2007-2015" a while back for $65.00 on ebay.
Notice that I mentioned "Stainless Steel" as the material. I can HIGHLY recommend you seek these out as they will not rust and/or corrode like regular sreel!
Search carefully and you shall find... just make sure you can return if they do not fit or you are not satisfied!
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. They should replace those under warranty!
I'm just impressed w the mileage thats no small potatoes. 30-40k a year. A f150 w that kinda. Mileage and other Toyotas. Gosh hes a traveling sales man
Deon Baker I love my Toyota the F150’s did ok but I aka ways had Transmission issues with then at 150 and above.
The highlander we bought used with 70k on it. And the Fj was a tank lol.
@@rickortiz5778 glad hear God bless ya bud being on road so much. I hear nothing but good things about Fj cruiser.
If these are factory wheels and factory lug nuts sounds like it should be Toyota's problem to fix. If they are putting different metals that don't play well together than they caused the issue not the customer.
Mine is also a 2016 with 90k miles and I don't have any issues with mine. I would suggest eBay for new lugnuts. Last time I checked a set of 20 oem takeoffs were selling around $60
Never heard of this nonsense,but I got rid of factory wheels /lug nuts almost as soon as I bought mine.
Never heard of that issue. But then again my 2017 tundra only has 20k miles on it.
My 2018 has 17
Deon Baker let me guess. You only drive it on the weekends or to and from work. Pretty much that’s what I do.
@@antoniomontesinos707 yea 17k .I work from home. Or else would kept my 2013.5 camry if put it technical by dealership lol.. and been car payment free by now lol.. got 4 more years left. I took it out of town so got 3k mileage on that trip. But do side jobs on weekend. So where mileage came from .
The lug nuts should be replaced completely!! I bought all new lug nuts with a 2011 Tundra, due to Toyota lug nuts premature rusting our!! Do not buy Toyota parts, I bought non -Toyota and never had an issue since! I also had to replace the total Toyota exhaust because known problems were premature rusting out exhaust systems after 20,000 miles only! I bought Bola stainless exhaust and perfect no more issues on lug nuts or w gaudy system! Problem solved!! 💯😇😇😇👍🏽💜💜💜
I think the problem is they where put on with impact too tight. And yeah shops do over tighten your lugs with impacts and if Toyota is the only ones doing your tires. They are probably the ones that ruined your lug nuts.
I have heard of it. Buy better & less expensive replacements. I have the plastic center caps on my '12 trd off road wheels degrading. Look like they are covered in soap. $ 85 each new but can get very nicely used for $ 20.
Buy 20 lug nuts and change them yourself... 300 buck the dealer is nuts
first time I've ever heard of such a thing. Somethings rotten in Denmark and if this is true then Toyota is the culprits to blame. Had a dodge Ram 1500 for 15 years and 260K on it never having such an issue.
Heard of quit a few people having that issues with swelling lug nuts. And congrats on 20K
Not sure this is the answer but I know if two different alloys are touching each other a corrosion effect takes place. Not sure this could cause swelling but over time this would degrade the metal
If they are OEM lug-nuts, that sounds like a TOYOTA problem to me. No way an OEM part should cause a problem for itself like that. It is true that dissimilar metals can have a corrosive effect, but that should not a problem for the consumer. That should be a recall issue.
That sounds like BS i would look at the lugs myself. Are they saying they cant get the wheels off to rotate them? That makes no sense to me.
All that said, you can buy a set of lug nuts for $60 on Amazon. Not that big a deal.
There just trying to make extra easy money. Skip the dealership. Bring them in for basic service and upsell upsell upsell.
Go to a different dealer.sounds like a dealer tactic of have the consumer leave with spending money
I have the same issue but on my Dodge Durango it’s a common issue just buy gorilla lock nuts for $40
yes the lug nuts are made steel and a cover in chrome it rusts under the chrome and u cant get a any tools
To remove the lug nuts u can get them cheaper online
on it u can get lugnuts cheaper online
Your answer is the correct one
Just like the hospitals listing Ammonia as COVI for the $39,000.00 paycheck. The dealer is looking for a payday, I bet they have e a really nice showroom?
Damn Rick, where do you drive too?! 😂😁😬🥴
Tundra Whisperer lol I cover a large geographic area managing sales reps. Across 6 states
Rick Ortiz 👍🏻 gotcha Rick, I actually enjoy driving on long trips myself. I’m constantly driving from Washington to Montana in my Tundra, and it fits me perfectly. The most comfortable car I’ve ever owned. Thx
They probably have been over torqued or they are aluminum caped Lug nuts not solid lugs
When dissimilar metals come in contact with one another, a corrosion cell is created. An example being a drycell battery. The electrolyte (moisture) will dictate the rate and severity of the corrosion. Cold wet climates, especially where road salts are used, experience the most severe issues. This corrosion or rust as it's commonly known, can cause pitting, disbondment of a coating or delamination of metal. And yes, this is Toyota's fault. Poor engineering and selection of materials. They have a rust warranty on body panels and frame (remember that issue?), but would stock lug nuts be part of that? Call Toyota's Customer Helpline and complain about it. Maybe they'll be motivated when you tell them how many Toyota vehicles you have owned. It's worth a try. The dealership won't do squat about it for sure.
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You got it!
Bought my 2015 2 years ago used. There was actually a recall on my vin for swollen lug nuts and they were replaced under the recall from the previous owner
That sounds like a bunch of BS... If not, I’m not paying $300 for lug.nuts
I've never heard of lug nuts swelling but I'd go to a tire shop talk to them and if needed to replace they'll probably be cheaper than the dealership or AutoZone has them for $3 a piece
My dealer told me the same thing on my 2012 tundra at around 80K. I just got some from amazon.com
Once I researched the issue, I bumped into an article which explained in detail what a swollen lug nut is, why and how it can happen.
Here is a link to the article, and the recommended solutions.
agradetools.com/swollen-lug-nuts-fix/
This has been common with Ford trucks, and at a lesser rate with other manufacturers like Dodges, Chryslers, and Toyotas.
I have noticed this was happening to vehicles made prior to 2017, so it could have been addressed and remedied since then with newer vehicles?
I am sure ebay and amazon have same quality as oem parts available for a much cheaper price.
I’d be shopping around to never have an expense like that!
$15 per nut? That’s highway robbery.
$300.00 ???? Id be getting them somewhere else ,for much less I'm sure.
I had this happen on my 2001 Tundra I replace my stock wheels and nuts with some Discount tire wheels and nuts and broke two lug bolts trying to get the nuts off very tight like they were cross threaded.
I had a couple Lugnuts get messed up by the dealer on my truck and I messed up a couple rotating my tires. Yes that is the accurate price at the dealer about 15 bucks apiece. I found a complete set of brand new Lugnuts for under $35 on eBay. I ordered them and they were just fine on my wheels. I couldn’t tell any difference between the factory Lugnuts and OEM appearance Lugnuts that I bought off of eBay. I will attach a link to these Lugnuts. www.ebay.com/itm/142371585511
Are they original equipment? I have had five toyota trucks in a row with not one single issue on any of them.
Yes original equipment
@@rickortiz5778 Was the guy smiling when he said that about the "Swelled Nuts"? Just kidding.
mrvoyagerm lol that would be funny but no he said it stone cold straight faced
I never had this issue on the Tundra I used to own. But our company has a bunch of Ford Escapes with lug nut swelling and we found out that Ford had a class action lawsuit in the problem. Folks who had flat tires could not change out to their spare as the supplied wheel nut wrench that came with vehicle could not take off the lugs nuts due to the swelling.
fordauthority.com/2019/08/ford-lug-nuts-from-dismissed-lawsuit-still-pose-problems/
Toyota's are known for those types of love notes, they are 2 different type long message materials you can find
First I've heard of this issue but definitely do not buy new lugs at the dealership. Much cheaper at your local auto parts store like a NAPA.
Yeah go online and buy a box of lug nuts at a faction of that price and put them on yourself. Dont let the Stealership do it for $300. Crazy.
Sounds like a scam
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That is not good. I don't have any information for the guy, but I do know I'd be pretty upset if 20 of my lug nuts all needed replacing. They simply don't make things like they used to.
Damn those rims will be swelling soon too then. What a bunch of bogus BS. I would really be interested in some detailed close pics of the lugnuts and the nut who mentioned this.
I'm seeing a lot of issues in the tundra
What? It is by FAR the most reliable pick up of the last 15 years! You will not find another model that comes even remotely close to comparing with the Tundra! Are they perfect? No, but they are pretty damn close!
Toyota of Ashland is a ripoff anyway. Should've went to Advantage Toyota.
Sounds like a gimmick to make money. Stealership trying to get one over on him
Nothing worse than some swollen nuts... Lol
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