It's iconic and ironic that he told her that she wasn't a good writer and then she winds up penning one of the most brilliant songs ever written -- about _him!_
Anyone who has ever been in a narcissistic relationship will recognize the indicators in her story. Heck, the song even starts with her describing his “Hoover.”
She is an incredible artist. Recognized worldwide from 1959 in the folk era. Joan plays the guitar and sings to your soul. She met Dylan and introduced him at concerts when he was first beginning. Joan has always been a voice for equality, marching with Martin Luther King Jr fighting for equality for blacks, browns, gays, immigrants, prisoners, women, etc... She has had many style changes over the decades and was even recently inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to her surprise, introduced by Jackson Brown. She continues to write, sign, and perform politically. She is also a painter. Now, in her 80s. My favorite music of hers would be this song and her first 5 albums, which were primarily folk. I'm glad you have found her.
You're right - this song is so heartbreaking. Where does one so young go from there when the person you see as the love of your life doesn't share those feelings? For an artist like Joan Baez those strong feelings have to come out in her art no matter how painful it may be.
"You who are so good with words, and at keeping things vague. We'll I need some of that vagueness now, it's come back to clearly, yes I loved you dearly, but if you're offering me Diamonds and Rust, I'd rather have a Grammy!" - Joan Baez, Oregon Zoo Summer Concert 2012. When Joan switched up that crucial lyric, it proved two things to her audience: 1. She has a tremendous sense of humor 2. Joan has never won a Grammy award. That is in part because she and Bob Dylan were part of the 60s folk vanguard who wrote and sang songs of civil rights in the US, and rallied at numerous events against the Vietnam War. Though she's always had a prolific career as a singer songwriter musician, and has dozens of albums in her catalog, she still ostracized by the corporate music industry. But that has never diminished her commitment to her craft.
The 'ghost' might be a reference to Visions of Johanna, a song Dylan wrote about her, which features a line about 'the ghost of electricity'. She Belongs To Me is about Joan too. And Oh Sister from Dylan's Desire album is a response to this song. And of course Joan Baez wasn't a 'lousy' poet, but she was not very confident about her writing, most of her songs are covers. But there are some great songs that she has written herself, like this one, or Sir Galahad.
I think you're right about the ghost reference. In another song on this album, Winds of the Old Days (also about Dylan), she sings about the "ghosts of Johanna" visiting Dylan in the then present time. Also, did you know Joan responded to Dylan's Oh Sister with her song, O Brother, about him? Here's the opening line of that song: "You've got eyes like Jesus but you speak with a viper's tongue."
In Visions of Johanna, Dylan sings 'The Madonna she still has not showed'. Joan Baez was sometimes nicknamed the Barefoot Madonna or the Madonna of Folk. In Diamonds and Rust she sings "The Madonna was yours for free". Sometimes I think they were having a very long and unique conversation through several songs.
Perhaps my favorite song of all time, along with Fountain of Sorrow by Jackson Browne, which she covers right next to this in the original album (but his version is superior). It’s wonderful to see you listening to this for the first time. Gosh, this song cuts deep.
Good choice nick glad you enjoyed - i had heard of her but never heard her music would say a 6/10 on first time hearing she's very talented but the 70s easy listening sound isn't so much my thing.
You should listen to Amazing Grace - A'Capella -from the album "From Every Stage" - absolutely phenomenal version. Joe Hill, Blessed Are . . . you have a wonderful path ahead with her
Dylan loved the song - her poetry isn't so bad after all.
It's iconic and ironic that he told her that she wasn't a good writer and then she winds up penning one of the most brilliant songs ever written -- about _him!_
Anyone who has ever been in a narcissistic relationship will recognize the indicators in her story. Heck, the song even starts with her describing his “Hoover.”
"You who are so good with words and at keeping things vague'' perfectly pegged Dylan.
Joan Baez is so wonderfully talented. Everything she does is amazing. She reminds me of my childhood.
No one else could match her on this one ❤. She's phenomenal
Oh Lord, how this song moves me.
This one is a great sad love song.
She is an incredible artist. Recognized worldwide from 1959 in the folk era. Joan plays the guitar and sings to your soul. She met Dylan and introduced him at concerts when he was first beginning. Joan has always been a voice for equality, marching with Martin Luther King Jr fighting for equality for blacks, browns, gays, immigrants, prisoners, women, etc... She has had many style changes over the decades and was even recently inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to her surprise, introduced by Jackson Brown. She continues to write, sign, and perform politically. She is also a painter. Now, in her 80s. My favorite music of hers would be this song and her first 5 albums, which were primarily folk. I'm glad you have found her.
The reference to the crummy hotel overlooking Washington Square, is when they were at the March on Washington with MLK.
You're right - this song is so heartbreaking. Where does one so young go from there when the person you see as the love of your life doesn't share those feelings? For an artist like Joan Baez those strong feelings have to come out in her art no matter how painful it may be.
"You who are so good with words, and at keeping things vague. We'll I need some of that vagueness now, it's come back to clearly, yes I loved you dearly, but if you're offering me Diamonds and Rust, I'd rather have a Grammy!" - Joan Baez, Oregon Zoo Summer Concert 2012. When Joan switched up that crucial lyric, it proved two things to her audience: 1. She has a tremendous sense of humor 2. Joan has never won a Grammy award. That is in part because she and Bob Dylan were part of the 60s folk vanguard who wrote and sang songs of civil rights in the US, and rallied at numerous events against the Vietnam War. Though she's always had a prolific career as a singer songwriter musician, and has dozens of albums in her catalog, she still ostracized by the corporate music industry. But that has never diminished her commitment to her craft.
Joan Baez: Rejoice in the Sun ... beautiful song, much feels. Sci-fi nerds know it well.
The 'ghost' might be a reference to Visions of Johanna, a song Dylan wrote about her, which features a line about 'the ghost of electricity'. She Belongs To Me is about Joan too. And Oh Sister from Dylan's Desire album is a response to this song. And of course Joan Baez wasn't a 'lousy' poet, but she was not very confident about her writing, most of her songs are covers. But there are some great songs that she has written herself, like this one, or Sir Galahad.
I think you're right about the ghost reference. In another song on this album, Winds of the Old Days (also about Dylan), she sings about the "ghosts of Johanna" visiting Dylan in the then present time. Also, did you know Joan responded to Dylan's Oh Sister with her song, O Brother, about him? Here's the opening line of that song: "You've got eyes like Jesus but you speak with a viper's tongue."
@@johno1765 oh yes, I know that one. 'Won't you tell me mister, how in the name of the Father and the Son did I come to be your sister?' 🙂.
In Visions of Johanna, Dylan sings 'The Madonna she still has not showed'. Joan Baez was sometimes nicknamed the Barefoot Madonna or the Madonna of Folk. In Diamonds and Rust she sings "The Madonna was yours for free". Sometimes I think they were having a very long and unique conversation through several songs.
Banks of the Ohio is also one of my favorites from Joan Baez. 💙
That pre-war Martin 00-45 has a tone that is haunting!
Perhaps my favorite song of all time, along with Fountain of Sorrow by Jackson Browne, which she covers right next to this in the original album (but his version is superior). It’s wonderful to see you listening to this for the first time. Gosh, this song cuts deep.
Suggestion for a reaction, The Rip by Portishead. Been a long time since you listened to Portishead, this is a great song.
hey nick you should check out the judas priest version of this song 😍 both the studio version and the 98 live version
Good choice nick glad you enjoyed - i had heard of her but never heard her music would say a 6/10 on first time hearing she's very talented but the 70s easy listening sound isn't so much my thing.
A Beautful, poignant song from the female perspective.
You should listen to Amazing Grace - A'Capella -from the album "From Every Stage" - absolutely phenomenal version. Joe Hill, Blessed Are . . . you have a wonderful path ahead with her
Judas priest do a good version of this, love the original though, phenomenal lyrics.
An OK version compared to many versions I have heard, but not a patch on the absolute genius version by Judas Priest.
Nonsense. This version is much better, by far. Priest's version is cold, this one is full of feeling.
@@ivelberoAgreed. 💙
You gotta be crazy to find it OK. This is the ONLY version.
Priest cover! The unlikeliest cover in music history.
But it works. To this day I have no idea why, but it does.