The King's of sampling in my book are De La Soul and Tribe... Native Tongues.. Q Tip raised all them J Dilla, Kanye etc in the Ummah!!! Kanye should be grateful....
Peace to Rza, 4th Disciple and Trumaster. Just Blaze acknowledged how much Wu Tang Producers influenced his sound. Ps Peace to Mobb Deep. Where Ya Heart At" by Mobb Deep sampled Sade's "Fear". Is that ish. Pps I guess The Beat Minerz influenced Fam as well. Peace to Boot Camp Click
I remember about 15 episodes ago some old school producer said the same thing about Just Blaze. Idk if it’s true because Just Blaze plays live instruments behind most of his beats.
Nah, Guru was on here and he said Just Blaze was following the assignment. Jay-Z and Roc-a-fella had a sound they wanted to make, and that's what he did.
First it was BINK, then KANYE, then SELF and now BUCKSHOT. These dudes can’t all be lying. And they are all legends in this hip hop game. One of the greatest underrated producers EVER, HAVOC!!!!!!!! RIP TO THE LEGENDARY BANDANA P!!!!!!!!
@@TheSstretch68 Kanye got a hundred ppl's hands in his beats and rhymes. He can't say nothing. He literally took Dr Dre's drums and put them on his beats lol. And I don't mean the sounds, i mean the literal pattern. The drums on "Guess Who's Back" are from "Xxplosive." And the same pattern is on "H to the Izzo" which is what really started heating him up. And then the same style is slowed down for "Dreams" which he did for the Game. Listen to his early productions from the 90s before he really got on. Didn't sound shit like that. So HE can't say shit about biting.
@@beanieseagull but ye didn't blatantly "bit" another producers style. He chopped a 2 bar drumloop from a record. It's not like he tried to hide it he's said in multiple interviews he used the drums from xplosive and from outkast. Plenty of producers use session players to help with their production. That's not biting.
I see Math is doing what Vlad does. Posting throwback videos to get in on the current convo. Doggie Diamonds just had Buckshot on and he was talking about Just Blaze stealing beats.
I kinda feel like that's what eventually gave Just a slight edge. Because he was able to make beats that sounded sampled but where all keyboard example Cam'ron Welcome to New York City.
This is a fact. My boy Vato produced most of Carl Thomas second album use to play me the Ignorant shit beat from Jay z American gangsta. When him and just got in the studio jus made him play the beat a hundred times and remade it as soon as he left and gave it to Jay z 😂😂😂😂😂😂Kanye not lying bout this
What’s wild is that Buckwild has the same story about the “Girls, Girls, Girls” beat. He was supposed to get signed to Roc-a-Fella in the early 00s and would bring that sample to the studio, but when he heard Just Blaze borrow the exact same sample he decided to fall back from that situation.
@@FinessedAnalyzer baseline studios dame use to bring unknown producers off the street and make them play their music on this big ass boom box in front of everybody. So it’s a good chance that happened a lot.
Bink! said the same thing-in fact, he provided the blueprint to Just Blaze’s high-pitched, soul-sampling style. That “1-900 Hustler” joint off the Dynasty album set that whole sound off
I had a studio session with Talib Kweli in the Cutting Room years ago and Just Blaze was the engineer. I had my MPC60 2 laying the beat and he was amazed that i had the machine doing magic tricks. After the session was done he asked me mad questions about the MPC60 2. He told me that he used the Korg Triton and he played me alot of keyboard beats. I wasn't impressed.🎶Ayatollah👈
Kanye West entire production catalogue is a remake of other songs, some he doesn’t even change a great deal the fact people are happy talking shit about J Blaze is insane, a good example off top Touch The Sky is a hood ex pale Kayne didn’t change anything.
Just Blaze makes Stadium music period. Did he bite Exhibit A or C? Thank god Just heard that same record Buckshot sampled. Just elevated it & made an epic interlude. Some people can make beats & some people can produce. Go find the original Devil in a Red Dress Bink did & then go listen to what Kanye did with it. Night and Day. Scott Storch has never been able to match the Quality of what Dre was able to do with his Keyboard tracks. Daz Dillinger has never been able to do what Dre did with his beats. Go look up Just Blazes Abstract Radio mix. 2hrs of straight fire. That man is a HERO. Cut the slander. It’s disgusting.
Hip-hop is based on creativity and originality. You can be heavily influenced by, paying homage to, or simply biting another artist's work. It may seem arbitrary to you, but musicians know the difference.
People using samples calling other producer a biter is crazy sums up the critical thinking skills in Hip Hop that Kanye even got that off and made it a topic. Glad Havoc paid respect to Just Blaze skills!
Right! Hiphop is about using songs and music of anybody and rhyming over it. Everyone in hiphop a biter if you ask James brown and George Clinton. Al Jerrau said he invented beat boxing.
You dont produce so you should stop talking what you dont know about….producers can be biters when you do it exactly like the next producer you are in a fact a biter….
@@grabbaleaf6598 just blaze production style before the roc nation placements had 0 soul samples and he wasn’t chopping he was just looping shit …. So yea he bit bink and kanye heavy and that bolstered his career them niggas aint got no reason to lie on him
Hav top 5 producers from NY Kanye > Just Blaze and the Blazettes It’s funny how Math said the Mobb raised him and he ain’t even put them in his greatest groups of all time list tf 😂
There is an old school Houston group called 4 deep they have a sing with thane heart of the city sample and it sounds just like Kanye's heart of the city the 4 deep album was from like 94... now it could be a coincidence which I think it is ...however mike dean and Scarface was around these cats back then and of course dean and face did a lot of work with ye sooo
We need KANYE on here talkin beats and hiphop history. Not no beef or no controversy. we need to hear his favorite beats from each beatmaker, producer, favorite every category. This show is so important for hiphop i love this episode.
@@i.quadmegistus5768 u must be a young nigga. When u sample someone beat its still biting unless u have an original beat or new beat. And kanye bites beats and rhymes U can’t school me on this. Tap out
@@tyronetucker3093 sampling and biting is still the same shit. You’re using somebody else shit to make a hit. Ur just a Kanye fan. Like I said u must be young. Cause no matter how you try to make it sound different it’s not.
If that's the case then all hip-hop producers are biters unless they make their own beats AND make their own samples... and I think the only one to do that for real for real is timbaland..IF I mistaken subtract or add on respectively 😇
This show fell off hard. It's still good but it was a million times better with esso and Hynaken. Dude with dreads, Math, an the older guy all have very close minded ways of thinking.
KanyeWest used samples of other people's original music. So how is he not a beat biter? What music did he ever make that didn't have samples of some one else's original music? Kanye is no genius musically. He is a good producer but that it. No genius. He would have to be original for that.
One of the most underrated producers in this thing we call hip hop.
Thee illustrious Havoc of Mobb Deep. Legend.
That shit its murder muzil one of the illest beats I ever heard
Rest in peace Prodigy!
Almost 2023 and I’m still banging that infamy album
🙏🙏🙏
@@Jay410S9o9 pop oof l lololol I'll I do p it I look
We going diamond,, yall play that prodigy 🎵song. Rip To P
Havoc doesn't get the respect he deserves as a producer.
CAP. IYKYK
@@ILLCLAPYOCHEEKSBOI ?
He does. He just not in the spotlight like that. People use a lot of mobb deep songs and beats.
Alchemist bit havoc style
The King's of sampling in my book are De La Soul and Tribe... Native Tongues.. Q Tip raised all them J Dilla, Kanye etc in the Ummah!!! Kanye should be grateful....
Havoc is a great producer. You can tell that him and The alchemist really put the work in and crafted how to make dope ass beats.
Crazy cuz Buckshot jus said this also on Doggie Diamonds clip he dropped yesterday
Facts
This is wy this vid was reposted. Math taking Vladtv formula posting throwbacks to get in on the current topic.
Bink did say Just bit his style on Jay's Dynasty album by how their sample work and drum patterns sounded similar on some songs
TRUTH!!!!!!!!
Bink is dope!
Just Blaze is a biter.
Just Blaze is still the best east coast producer from the 2000's
A lot of his sound came from a little known but well respected Producer/artist named Canei Finch 💯
False its still kanye and its not close
@@Darie2006 Kanye not east coast
Alchemist .. and it’s not close
Alchemist all day
Dear Summer and December 4th are still my fav beats from him
December 4th fire!! I would take Just Blaze over Kanye Any day of the week!!
@@arazie15 that TAKEOVER beat was crazy… the doors-5 to 1 flip.. crazy
U don't know
@@arazie15I’ll take Kanye over Just Blaze anyday of the week. Just is a biter and has never produced a classic album mainly by himself.
@@dxlxratedKanye smokes Just Blaze and it’s not even close. Just Blaze is unoriginal, and Kanye got way more classic songs / albums.
He bit Black Moons “stay real” for Hov’s PSA
It's the Infamous Mobb Deep!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
math a legend for reuploading this straight after doggie diamonds interview clip with buckshot...
Peace to Rza, 4th Disciple and Trumaster. Just Blaze acknowledged how much Wu Tang Producers influenced his sound.
Ps Peace to Mobb Deep. Where Ya Heart At" by Mobb Deep sampled Sade's "Fear". Is that ish.
Pps I guess The Beat Minerz influenced Fam as well. Peace to Boot Camp Click
His energy n snares on tracks. . İts the incacerated scarface ny feel .
Finally someone mentioned RZA and Da Beatminerz. Can’t talk about great hip hop production and not mention the names you mentioned
Keep levelling up Math, its the only way
I remember about 15 episodes ago some old school producer said the same thing about Just Blaze. Idk if it’s true because Just Blaze plays live instruments behind most of his beats.
Its not a matter of not being talented but not being original
The live instrumentation is used to Hide his biting
Nah, Guru was on here and he said Just Blaze was following the assignment. Jay-Z and Roc-a-fella had a sound they wanted to make, and that's what he did.
@@Bloodsport1 no it’s not. I do the same with some of my beats. The live instruments sound better than most plug ins or factory sounds.
@@UCUSmusic I feel you
Blaze beat don’t really sound like Ye beats. Many producers that time had similar type beats. If Jay want a beat, you gotta give him shit he like.
This. I mean tbh I thought it was just the Roc A Fella sound because then it spread out to Dipset with The Heatmakerz doing that same shit.
Blaze beats is too hot. Kanye can't fuck wit Just
@@quadjaysportHeatmakerz and Kanye spammed that chipmunk sample sound.
@@quadjaysportJust Blaze bit Bink, Buckshot, Swizz Beatz and Kanye.
First it was BINK, then KANYE, then SELF and now BUCKSHOT. These dudes can’t all be lying. And they are all legends in this hip hop game.
One of the greatest underrated producers EVER, HAVOC!!!!!!!!
RIP TO THE LEGENDARY BANDANA P!!!!!!!!
only one that can talk is Bink
@@beanieseagull The others can talk well YE AND SELF because they felt JUST BLAZE bit their style also.
@@TheSstretch68 Kanye got a hundred ppl's hands in his beats and rhymes. He can't say nothing. He literally took Dr Dre's drums and put them on his beats lol. And I don't mean the sounds, i mean the literal pattern. The drums on "Guess Who's Back" are from "Xxplosive." And the same pattern is on "H to the Izzo" which is what really started heating him up. And then the same style is slowed down for "Dreams" which he did for the Game. Listen to his early productions from the 90s before he really got on. Didn't sound shit like that. So HE can't say shit about biting.
@@beanieseagull but ye didn't blatantly "bit" another producers style. He chopped a 2 bar drumloop from a record. It's not like he tried to hide it he's said in multiple interviews he used the drums from xplosive and from outkast. Plenty of producers use session players to help with their production. That's not biting.
Yo Buckshot just said this on Doggy Diamonds. 💯
I see Math is doing what Vlad does. Posting throwback videos to get in on the current convo. Doggie Diamonds just had Buckshot on and he was talking about Just Blaze stealing beats.
Indeed!
Id be upset if he ran and got someone on the show for it but these are old interviews you feel me
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!!
You know DOGGIE going to be speaking about this 😅
Media does it.
I came just to say this same shit. I just watched that interview yesterday.
She didn't read the rules!! No CELLPHONES!!!
4:58 - It was keyboard sounding beats until he saw what Bink! did with the “1-900-Hustler” beat
Blaze > bink. 💥
I kinda feel like that's what eventually gave Just a slight edge. Because he was able to make beats that sounded sampled but where all keyboard example Cam'ron Welcome to New York City.
I think Just Blaze ripped off the drums big time from 1-900
@@Lonewolf_665Bink >>> The copycat
@@Lonewolf_665Kanye >>>>> the biter
This is why I say as an artist you really can't just work with anybody! Keep your work under lock and key 🔐 until it's ready 😉!
Ayoooo let's quickly get Math to 1 Million subscribers ASAP RIP P
Heard from multiple people some cat in Atlanta made Breathe. Just Blaze heard it and flipped the same sample the same way.
He been doing that
This is a fact. My boy Vato produced most of Carl Thomas second album use to play me the Ignorant shit beat from Jay z American gangsta. When him and just got in the studio jus made him play the beat a hundred times and remade it as soon as he left and gave it to Jay z 😂😂😂😂😂😂Kanye not lying bout this
What’s wild is that Buckwild has the same story about the “Girls, Girls, Girls” beat. He was supposed to get signed to Roc-a-Fella in the early 00s and would bring that sample to the studio, but when he heard Just Blaze borrow the exact same sample he decided to fall back from that situation.
My homie got 4 stories about this lmfaooo my man is habitual beat biter stealer
@@FinessedAnalyzer baseline studios dame use to bring unknown producers off the street and make them play their music on this big ass boom box in front of everybody. So it’s a good chance that happened a lot.
It’s not companies that are flagging samples, it’s a.i. that are flagging them. They work like how shazam works.
Its painful watching the legendary havoc without king prodigy
U should interview JUST BLAZE & ASK HEM!!
Lmaooooo that’s the pot calling the kettle. Kanye is the hugest biter himself! YAAAASSSSS HAVOC IS THE TRUTH AND THE BLUEPRINT! #SALUTE
Who he bite lol he sampled dre drums and pete rock drums thats about it
@@Darie2006 You a Kanye apologist. Kanye was hating on Blaze period
Bink! said the same thing-in fact, he provided the blueprint to Just Blaze’s high-pitched, soul-sampling style. That “1-900 Hustler” joint off the Dynasty album set that whole sound off
@@ALexander-ue3kj The Rza was the one flipping the tone changes before Kanye.
@@mostmost1 You're actually right. No wonder Ye pays homage to RZA in his interviews when he was young in the game.
But Just blaze produced the Dynasty Intro though 😂
Havoc is a true legend! Amazing Emcee and Producer!!!....
Maaaan Hovac is just too Humble
Interview Bink…lol
I had a studio session with Talib Kweli in the Cutting Room years ago and Just Blaze was the engineer. I had my MPC60 2 laying the beat and he was amazed that i had the machine doing magic tricks. After the session was done he asked me mad questions about the MPC60 2. He told me that he used the Korg Triton and he played me alot of keyboard beats. I wasn't impressed.🎶Ayatollah👈
And now you stuck making RUclips comments about what you use to have
He is...He took the Black moon beat and made Jay-Z's PSA beat
💯💯
I heard that sample off OC album, it was like a interlude into another song..
@@quadjaysport Yupp n Doggie Diamonds jus dropped a clip yest wit a new interview wit Buckshot n he explains it
@@NevaSellmySoul damn EPMD really is that duo‼️ I still bug out about how “Get At Me Dog” by DMX was originally they beat “Get The Bozack”
Kanye West entire production catalogue is a remake of other songs, some he doesn’t even change a great deal the fact people are happy talking shit about J Blaze is insane, a good example off top Touch The Sky is a hood ex pale Kayne didn’t change anything.
Kanye was not the only catt to say that about Just Blaze
Fuck Kanye. The assignment was soul beats. Jay made this clear.
Buckshot is saying the same thing just the other day on Doggie Diamonds tv about just Blaze
💯
Fav rap stars.
Happy Holidays
First time I heard a just blaze beat for beans first album… it sounded like he was biting swizz on Who Want What
Bruh where TF is the melli mel n caz joints at???
How about you look?
@@ALexander-ue3kj How bout you EAD.
@@MilliNYC you keyboard warriors are hilarious
@@ALexander-ue3kj Trust this ain't no tough talk. Just go EAD lol
but they didn't post the Ye interview? 🤦🏾♂️
The Legend Buckshot said, Just Blaze stole Public Service Announcement , that on Jay Z’s Black Album.
got the GLadTV flashbacks lol
Funny thing is I was just reading this few hour earlier.
Havoc and Gary Payton just might be related 🤔
LMAOOO
2:28 I understand 💯
Kanye a beat jacker
Meanwhile Kanye bit the drums from Dr Dre explosive for Jay's heart of the city
Atleast he admitted it
@@Darie2006 I guess it’s ok then.
Same drums for Jay’s “This Can’t Be Life”
I don't think Dr Dre actually made the xxxplosive beat.. he utilizes a lot of ghost producers
I understand math lol legendary
Call Kanye what you want but he be telling the truth about a lot of shit
No he doesn’t
Kanye a beat bitter tho
False
Negative.
@@blackspider1405 hell yeah… he called out the small hats, and everything he said abt them, is facts
Just Blaze makes Stadium music period. Did he bite Exhibit A or C?
Thank god Just heard that same record Buckshot sampled.
Just elevated it & made an epic interlude. Some people can make beats & some people can produce.
Go find the original Devil in a Red Dress Bink did & then go listen to what Kanye did with it. Night and Day.
Scott Storch has never been able to match the Quality of what Dre was able to do with his Keyboard tracks.
Daz Dillinger has never been able to do what Dre did with his beats.
Go look up Just Blazes Abstract Radio mix. 2hrs of straight fire. That man is a HERO. Cut the slander. It’s disgusting.
You right!! If just is beating biting he is definitely making the shit sound better!!
Kanye I told blaze nothings never promised tomorrow today
Kanye never lies
Yea he does. And his dumb fans
Especially for his love of Hitler. He’s also a huge fraud btw
Rap music is based on biting, so it's funny to me when I hear rappers and producers accusing each other of biting.
Thank you! Someone on here get it. Kanye bit a lot of shit
Hip-hop is based on creativity and originality. You can be heavily influenced by, paying homage to, or simply biting another artist's work. It may seem arbitrary to you, but musicians know the difference.
@@tbates4938 These top two commenters don't get it
Tell that Caz lmao
@@tbates4938 lol right, sampling is very original
Damn this show is 🔥
THIS IS TRUE, FACTS
People using samples calling other producer a biter is crazy sums up the critical thinking skills in Hip Hop that Kanye even got that off and made it a topic. Glad Havoc paid respect to Just Blaze skills!
Right! Hiphop is about using songs and music of anybody and rhyming over it. Everyone in hiphop a biter if you ask James brown and George Clinton. Al Jerrau said he invented beat boxing.
For real…
You dont produce so you should stop talking what you dont know about….producers can be biters when you do it exactly like the next producer you are in a fact a biter….
@@Darie2006 through the wire u mean
@@grabbaleaf6598 just blaze production style before the roc nation placements had 0 soul samples and he wasn’t chopping he was just looping shit …. So yea he bit bink and kanye heavy and that bolstered his career them niggas aint got no reason to lie on him
Buckshot just said the same thing!
Yo get DJ Evil Dee or Buckshot on here they will tell you about Just Blaze they kinda call him a beat biter as well.
Hav top 5 producers from NY
Kanye > Just Blaze and the Blazettes
It’s funny how Math said the Mobb raised him and he ain’t even put them in his greatest groups of all time list tf 😂
Kato in the building “Read betweeeeen the line” if you know you know!
True...
god father part 3!!!
Buck shot was on doggy diamonds and said that just Blaze took PSA from DJ evil D 😮
There is an old school Houston group called 4 deep they have a sing with thane heart of the city sample and it sounds just like Kanye's heart of the city the 4 deep album was from like 94... now it could be a coincidence which I think it is ...however mike dean and Scarface was around these cats back then and of course dean and face did a lot of work with ye sooo
Quiet storm was sampled from sugar hill gang dam
It's all Dilla if we being real. Do your research.
According to you zombies it's 10 million legends living right now!!!!!!!
Its all Good
Kanye samples and create the same drum pattern thats on that same sample...kanye stfu 🤣
you can find credits on genius
WHO YOULL GOT MOBB DEEP OR SMITH & WESSON
Isn't Kanye a beat bitter too? Or is it called "sampling"?
Just blaze stole the December 4th beat on jay black album
Nobody steals nothin. Made beats been used over again.
Look at my expert opinion with throw backs
Rip HNIC P
Like eighty eleven kniggahs done said this 😂😂😂😂😂
I seen u MATH 👁️🪬🧠(good intro 2😅🔫☕️😂😈)🔫☕️🥶truthtell🔫☕️
Just Blaze uses patches. That's the definition of beat biting 😂.
Math tried to walk Havoc into talking about Nothin' Like Home versus Overnight Celebrity
ruclips.net/video/ZkVHGYT-fvA/видео.html
*Ye has ppl write for him so wtf is he talkin about?*
no way is dolce and gabbana high end
Just Blaze 😞, who knew you was whack like that! 🫢
Who cares what Kanye thinks?
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We need KANYE on here talkin beats and hiphop history. Not no beef or no controversy. we need to hear his favorite beats from each beatmaker, producer, favorite every category. This show is so important for hiphop i love this episode.
Mr west is a hater. He's intimidated.
AS IF KANYE CAN TALK. all his hits when he came out we’re samples. FOH
This ain't about kanye
Sampling is not what ‘beat biting’ is meant by in this context.
@@i.quadmegistus5768 u must be a young nigga. When u sample someone beat its still biting unless u have an original beat or new beat. And kanye bites beats and rhymes U can’t school me on this. Tap out
There's a difference between sampling and biting beats
@@tyronetucker3093 sampling and biting is still the same shit. You’re using somebody else shit to make a hit. Ur just a Kanye fan. Like I said u must be young. Cause no matter how you try to make it sound different it’s not.
I make better beats than Just Blaze
If that's the case then all hip-hop producers are biters unless they make their own beats AND make their own samples... and I think the only one to do that for real for real is timbaland..IF I mistaken subtract or add on respectively 😇
$Layriyahfaithdad
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Hate on Kanye all y’all want , but he is the only producer who can go toe to toe with Dr Dre.
No he can’t
@@jwalker4479 you gotta be drunk this morning. Better go though Ye catalog
@@chi-townlowend1812 u better check Swizz beats, young guru a lot of ppl. Kanye is just the most popular and of course you say that he’s from ur town
They both use ghost writers and ghost producers.
@@jwalker4479 I say that because of his work.
Just Blaze is a better producer than Kanye imo.Swizz beats will always be high tier trash in my book.
This show fell off hard. It's still good but it was a million times better with esso and Hynaken. Dude with dreads, Math, an the older guy all have very close minded ways of thinking.
Hynaken was ass. Esso was lit though.
How much Esso pay you to say that bullshit? 🤣😭
The show ain't about them. The show about Math and the guest
i wish they would cut out the panel and just have math and the guest
Doggie Diamonds posted a video about Just Blaze stealing with Buckshot a few hours ago. He's gonna cry about this upload for the next 3 weeks.😂
KanyeWest used samples of other people's original music. So how is he not a beat biter? What music did he ever make that didn't have samples of some one else's original music? Kanye is no genius musically. He is a good producer but that it. No genius. He would have to be original for that.
Is there such a thing as an original idea?
@@tbates4938 Well, yes. Making beats from scratch is original (The Neptunes, Timbaland, Swizz Beatz are prime examples.
Hip hop is supposed to sample tf is you talking about