Oh yeah! I remember the same happening to me. At the time there were just Feel as a free device, but it was enough to launch the rocket from my pocket... there it is a dad band name: Pocket Rocket.... Have fun making music!
Inspirational! This kind of directness is why Ableton is the best DAW for me... Thank you so much for this. 9:43 - Omni is just a dial over the binary representation of length^2. With a length of 16, zero on the Variation control is 1111 - with 12 0's after... Read backwards, that's 0000 0000 0000 1111 = 16. And then, the Variance control as you say 'scrubs' thru the binary digits in a sixteen-bit number, with just four of the bits set. What a clever idea! 14:37 - creating variations to create fodder for an arrangement - Amen bro 🙏. And that's probably the first time I've ever typed the word "bro" 🙂 16:07 - that function generator view is so gorgeous! If that's part of your m4l arsenal, I'm in! Pity that drum rack sound didn't seem to significantly react to midi velocity! But I get it! 19:34 - Follow Actions for the win! The previously-best "new feature" in Live when it came out - read about it when Live 4 was released, made total sense to me then. Now 20 years later, still is what runs a set for me! 32:04 - adding an unquantised feel - class! But you support quantisation too with a button click - super results! One of the most-promising products over the years in M4L world, was LiquidRhythm and LiquidMusic from WaveDNA, out of Canada. They originally were M4L-only devices... Now VSTs. Would be so super cool to have some of their brilliant midi generation tools in Live 12 as flavour of these generators. Another brilliant suite of products was J74 aka Fabricio Poce. His J74 Progressive, J74 Bassline, and others like J74 Slice Shuffler (your inspriation?) - all M4L devices - are just wonderful. Again, I wonder if Fabricio would be able to implement some of the ideas behing his brilliant, musical devices using the new Live 12 Midi generators or transformers? Honestly, the amount of times I said "Whaaaaat??!" in this video Mr Meyer! Thanks so much!! So glad I recently got a modern machine that can run Live 12! My 2013 Win 10 laptop on its last legs - I'm back in the game with a debloated Win 11 beast! Thanks Philip!! Subbed, and checking your other stuff out... Would be cool if you could share the .als set behind this vid.
Thanks so much for the kind words and detailed reactions? And for the references to those other makers and devices. I was not aware of any of them. Thanks again!
Can we make an audio spectral analyzer - put it to under Piano roll = for posibility visual see notes of the sound? (like FLStudio have waveCandy - but put that raster result of spectr image on piano roll in Ableton with the same temp - This will help for pick up complex melodies - because converter to midi is lame)
Yo Philip! I’m love if you’d be able to implement a device to make drum rolls/exponential rhythms easier. I’m always annoyed having to swap back and forth between the “chop” and time shift midi transformations. Having them both in a single device would be great.
Omg that's embarrassing haha. Yeah that's pretty close - I missed the time tab you showed the first time around! (Although it would be easier to use for this use case if the interval was automatically the note length and you didn't have to change it manually. I really like how Bitwig has this setup with their note division operator.)
I actually was able to get this auto-interval length working just by changing the JS a little bit, but this was a perfect starting point! Thanks again!
question... but can we do all of this in full Max/msp without Live? The only thing i use live for these days is this kind of stuff. I see Max 9 now also has Ableton things
you can do anything with zombocom! you can certainly explore these ideas in max (as i do in other videos). the midi clip container and the midi tool workflow is a live-specific thing, and you could work up approximations of them in max but that would require work. i have wanted to make a sort of midi tool framework for standalone max that allows these devices to be used there, but it’s low on my long list of projects. so: yes, but it wouldn’t be the same.
I'm basically deaf in the upper frequencies. Unfortunately, I was unable to hear the hats in the demonstration. Looks like a great tool otherwise. I just couldn't hear the demo. :)
It would be really cool if there were a toggle in the Stages device, so that increasing the slider value made the note longer, rather than making more notes of the same length (and just as now, it would of course push all the subsequent notes further out in time to accommodate the longer note).
@@p__meyerIt would essentially work as a variable-step-length sequencer, of which there are shockingly few available. Fixed note length makes it hard to write things that sound like true melodies. Thx for all ur hard work!
Have you used Blocks? It is not on the free pack, but I believe it will do exactly what you want. I've been using the MIDI Tools by Meyer Devices for a while now and I've learned that every time I think of a feature request, it already exists in on of the other devices from the full bundle and it is a better workflow the way it is than the way I was expecting. At first I was confused, but I've quickly learned the value of having those features in sepparate devices. It kinda "forces" you to squeeze everything you can of one thing, it really sparks creativity and fun times. Anyway... check out Blocks!
After trying the free pack It was an instant buy for all the package. Amazing tools!
❤️
Oh yeah! I remember the same happening to me. At the time there were just Feel as a free device, but it was enough to launch the rocket from my pocket... there it is a dad band name: Pocket Rocket.... Have fun making music!
Thank you for making the tool and the tutorial
It's a work that made with deep thought and dedication.
Yes deep diiiive!
Loving the Midi tools pack. Really appreciate all the work you've put into this!
thanks, appreciate you!
Thanks for these great Transformers and Generators Philip!! 🙂
Inspirational! This kind of directness is why Ableton is the best DAW for me... Thank you so much for this.
9:43 - Omni is just a dial over the binary representation of length^2. With a length of 16, zero on the Variation control is 1111 - with 12 0's after... Read backwards, that's 0000 0000 0000 1111 = 16. And then, the Variance control as you say 'scrubs' thru the binary digits in a sixteen-bit number, with just four of the bits set. What a clever idea!
14:37 - creating variations to create fodder for an arrangement - Amen bro 🙏. And that's probably the first time I've ever typed the word "bro" 🙂
16:07 - that function generator view is so gorgeous! If that's part of your m4l arsenal, I'm in! Pity that drum rack sound didn't seem to significantly react to midi velocity! But I get it!
19:34 - Follow Actions for the win! The previously-best "new feature" in Live when it came out - read about it when Live 4 was released, made total sense to me then. Now 20 years later, still is what runs a set for me!
32:04 - adding an unquantised feel - class! But you support quantisation too with a button click - super results!
One of the most-promising products over the years in M4L world, was LiquidRhythm and LiquidMusic from WaveDNA, out of Canada. They originally were M4L-only devices... Now VSTs. Would be so super cool to have some of their brilliant midi generation tools in Live 12 as flavour of these generators.
Another brilliant suite of products was J74 aka Fabricio Poce. His J74 Progressive, J74 Bassline, and others like J74 Slice Shuffler (your inspriation?) - all M4L devices - are just wonderful. Again, I wonder if Fabricio would be able to implement some of the ideas behing his brilliant, musical devices using the new Live 12 Midi generators or transformers?
Honestly, the amount of times I said "Whaaaaat??!" in this video Mr Meyer! Thanks so much!! So glad I recently got a modern machine that can run Live 12! My 2013 Win 10 laptop on its last legs - I'm back in the game with a debloated Win 11 beast! Thanks Philip!! Subbed, and checking your other stuff out...
Would be cool if you could share the .als set behind this vid.
Thanks so much for the kind words and detailed reactions? And for the references to those other makers and devices. I was not aware of any of them. Thanks again!
@ Thanks ! 🙏
Thank you, Philip! Amazing tools!
Amazing tool Philip - looking forward to trying this 💜
Midi on a next level ,will defo experiment with those one thx
I've needed something just like slice shuffler. Very cool
Brillant, thx !
thanks for great tutorial and tools
thanks for the video! gonna deep dive some more :)
👏👏👏
So inspiring!
this is wild
Great stuff 🙇♂
these look amazing, are values in your transformers and generators available as midi/lfo destinations?
unfortunately not. max for live transformers/generators are not mappable
thank you so much for this tool. my cuestion is, can i map to midi controller this functions?
Thank you Philip! Great tools! Btw, can you ask Ableton guys to make midi tools automation available and midi controlable?
haha, i will forward that along! i'm sure they have heard that request many times, so we will see what they decide
Why aren't the midi tools available thru Push? (or are they and I just haven't found them)
you'll have to ask ableton! hopefully one day they will be
Can we make an audio spectral analyzer - put it to under Piano roll = for posibility visual see notes of the sound? (like FLStudio have waveCandy - but put that raster result of spectr image on piano roll in Ableton with the same temp - This will help for pick up complex melodies - because converter to midi is lame)
Yo Philip! I’m love if you’d be able to implement a device to make drum rolls/exponential rhythms easier.
I’m always annoyed having to swap back and forth between the “chop” and time shift midi transformations. Having them both in a single device would be great.
interesting, does retrigger not accomplish what you’re looking for?
Omg that's embarrassing haha. Yeah that's pretty close - I missed the time tab you showed the first time around! (Although it would be easier to use for this use case if the interval was automatically the note length and you didn't have to change it manually. I really like how Bitwig has this setup with their note division operator.)
@@Sheenrocks4no problem!
I actually was able to get this auto-interval length working just by changing the JS a little bit, but this was a perfect starting point! Thanks again!
@@Sheenrocks4 there you go. yeah it looks like what you want it sort of a hybrid of Divs and Retrigger - glad you were able to figure it out
question... but can we do all of this in full Max/msp without Live? The only thing i use live for these days is this kind of stuff. I see Max 9 now also has Ableton things
you can do anything with zombocom!
you can certainly explore these ideas in max (as i do in other videos). the midi clip container and the midi tool workflow is a live-specific thing, and you could work up approximations of them in max but that would require work. i have wanted to make a sort of midi tool framework for standalone max that allows these devices to be used there, but it’s low on my long list of projects.
so: yes, but it wouldn’t be the same.
@ thanks. I’m
Not expecting it to be the same. Guess I’ll take a dive and see where it gets me! I dig your videos.
@@BarryChabala sounds like a good plan!
I'm basically deaf in the upper frequencies. Unfortunately, I was unable to hear the hats in the demonstration. Looks like a great tool otherwise. I just couldn't hear the demo. :)
thanks for letting me know! i will keep this in mind for future videos
@@p__meyer Thank you! I wish I could buy fresh ears.
It would be really cool if there were a toggle in the Stages device, so that increasing the slider value made the note longer, rather than making more notes of the same length (and just as now, it would of course push all the subsequent notes further out in time to accommodate the longer note).
Very cool idea! Maybe we can explore that in an update…
@@p__meyerIt would essentially work as a variable-step-length sequencer, of which there are shockingly few available. Fixed note length makes it hard to write things that sound like true melodies. Thx for all ur hard work!
check out my device Blocks! i think it is exactly what you are looking for. meyer-devices.com
Have you used Blocks? It is not on the free pack, but I believe it will do exactly what you want. I've been using the MIDI Tools by Meyer Devices for a while now and I've learned that every time I think of a feature request, it already exists in on of the other devices from the full bundle and it is a better workflow the way it is than the way I was expecting. At first I was confused, but I've quickly learned the value of having those features in sepparate devices. It kinda "forces" you to squeeze everything you can of one thing, it really sparks creativity and fun times. Anyway... check out Blocks!